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Reply #90 posted 12/22/16 7:44pm

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purplepoppy said:

Ok, P's parents were both black as we define it broadly. All 4 grandparents were from Louisiana, not NOLA. Haven't done a lot of research but I read the town John ( prince father) came from was northwest closer to Shreveport. Also Native American ancestry in P's family. Fact - Creoles are not just a black/white mix. White people of French/Spanish heritage also call themselves Creoles. Barack Obama is called black but his Mother is white. Confusing yes, but we are more of a melting pot than most of us understand.


I don't understand why if your half black, your black. If your half white ,then your half white. My son is mixed. I'm white ,his father was dark skin black. Prince is lighter than my son. Prince also has a lot of body hair like he has some Spain or Mediterranean ancestry . And those thick eyebrows, oh my God they're so sexy . I know this is off topic but I don't know where else to talk about this either. I often ponder what perfect blend Prince is made of. So perfect he could not reproduce himself ( perhaps)
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #91 posted 12/22/16 7:54pm

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oliviacamron said:

purplepoppy said:

Ok, P's parents were both black as we define it broadly. All 4 grandparents were from Louisiana, not NOLA. Haven't done a lot of research but I read the town John ( prince father) came from was northwest closer to Shreveport. Also Native American ancestry in P's family. Fact - Creoles are not just a black/white mix. White people of French/Spanish heritage also call themselves Creoles. Barack Obama is called black but his Mother is white. Confusing yes, but we are more of a melting pot than most of us understand.

I don't understand why if your half black, your black. If your half white ,then your half white. My son is mixed. I'm white ,his father was dark skin black. Prince is lighter than my son. Prince also has a lot of body hair like he has some Spain or Mediterranean ancestry . And those thick eyebrows, oh my God they're so sexy . I know this is off topic but I don't know where else to talk about this either. I often ponder what perfect blend Prince is made of. So perfect he could not reproduce himself ( perhaps)

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Reply #92 posted 12/22/16 8:21pm

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cloveringold85 said:

oliviacamron said:

My first sexual desire was for Prince and I was only 11. Years later when I did loose my virginity, I didn't really desire sex. But, when I was 11, I really did want to have sex with Prince and still do . Here is another confession, I didn't know Prince was black until my dad told me. Being so young I didn't really analyze Prince's race. Did it bother me? Heck no!

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You were only 11?! lol

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Prince was bi-racial. Black or white, it doesn't really matter to me. I loved Prince from the moment I laid eyes on him!! batting eyes kisses


I don't think that 11 years old is unusually young for someone to start having sexual fantacies and desires.

I had my first wet dream when I was 9 years old and I went through puberty very late.


I think the argument about what race Prince was is silly.


He is obviously not of pure African descent.

All you have to do is look at him to know that.

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Reply #93 posted 12/22/16 8:42pm

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cloveringold85 said:

anangellooksdown said:

T.M.I.!!!!! shake whew shocked

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Yes......TMI eek


That's funny, I didn't find either confession even a little bit shocking.

And it would be too much information if it was my mom making such a confession to me, but

hearing about something so personal but innocent and harmless from a stranger on the internet


does not make me uncomfortable.


Is there an emoticon for "I Think You Are Overreacting"?



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Reply #94 posted 12/22/16 11:17pm

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oliviacamron said:

purplepoppy said:

Ok, P's parents were both black as we define it broadly. All 4 grandparents were from Louisiana, not NOLA. Haven't done a lot of research but I read the town John ( prince father) came from was northwest closer to Shreveport. Also Native American ancestry in P's family. Fact - Creoles are not just a black/white mix. White people of French/Spanish heritage also call themselves Creoles. Barack Obama is called black but his Mother is white. Confusing yes, but we are more of a melting pot than most of us understand.

I don't understand why if your half black, your black. If your half white ,then your half white. My son is mixed. I'm white ,his father was dark skin black. Prince is lighter than my son. Prince also has a lot of body hair like he has some Spain or Mediterranean ancestry . And those thick eyebrows, oh my God they're so sexy . I know this is off topic but I don't know where else to talk about this either. I often ponder what perfect blend Prince is made of. So perfect he could not reproduce himself ( perhaps)

Ok.

Whether people agree this is right or wrong, the fact remains that here in

the USA, the laws created during slavery to distinguish mixed blood free humans from mixed blood enslaved humans said "one drop of Black bloodmakes you Black" and were called The One Drop Rule...and if I'm not mistaken, although those laws aren't currently being enforced, they do still exist in some form in some areas of the USA.

Which is actually interesting cuz if at any point in the future, think about how easy it could be to reinstate a long unenforced law that still exists on the books as a law...Only takes one knucklehead to do it.

That's why, even with an American Caucasian mother and an African father, President Obama was publicly acknowledged as Black...not mixed or biracial...Black.

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Reply #95 posted 12/22/16 11:39pm

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LBrent said:



oliviacamron said:


purplepoppy said:

Ok, P's parents were both black as we define it broadly. All 4 grandparents were from Louisiana, not NOLA. Haven't done a lot of research but I read the town John ( prince father) came from was northwest closer to Shreveport. Also Native American ancestry in P's family. Fact - Creoles are not just a black/white mix. White people of French/Spanish heritage also call themselves Creoles. Barack Obama is called black but his Mother is white. Confusing yes, but we are more of a melting pot than most of us understand.



I don't understand why if your half black, your black. If your half white ,then your half white. My son is mixed. I'm white ,his father was dark skin black. Prince is lighter than my son. Prince also has a lot of body hair like he has some Spain or Mediterranean ancestry . And those thick eyebrows, oh my God they're so sexy . I know this is off topic but I don't know where else to talk about this either. I often ponder what perfect blend Prince is made of. So perfect he could not reproduce himself ( perhaps)


Ok.



Whether people agree this is right or wrong, the fact remains that here in


the USA, the laws created during slavery to distinguish mixed blood free humans from mixed blood enslaved humans said "one drop of Black bloodmakes you Black" and were called The One Drop Rule...and if I'm not mistaken, although those laws aren't currently being enforced, they do still exist in some form in some areas of the USA.



Which is actually interesting cuz if at any point in the future, think about how easy it could be to reinstate a long unenforced law that still exists on the books as a law...Only takes one knucklehead to do it.



That's why, even with an American Caucasian mother and an African father, President Obama was publicly acknowledged as Black...not mixed or biracial...Black.



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No! No! No! I know about that man made law but that law doesn't mean anything really. Besides that racist law from a long long time ago, why do people today say 1/2 black and 1/2 white is black? What you are is what you are,
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #96 posted 12/23/16 12:26am

LBrent

oliviacamron said:

LBrent said:

Ok.

Whether people agree this is right or wrong, the fact remains that here in

the USA, the laws created during slavery to distinguish mixed blood free humans from mixed blood enslaved humans said "one drop of Black bloodmakes you Black" and were called The One Drop Rule...and if I'm not mistaken, although those laws aren't currently being enforced, they do still exist in some form in some areas of the USA.

Which is actually interesting cuz if at any point in the future, think about how easy it could be to reinstate a long unenforced law that still exists on the books as a law...Only takes one knucklehead to do it.

That's why, even with an American Caucasian mother and an African father, President Obama was publicly acknowledged as Black...not mixed or biracial...Black.

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No! No! No! I know about that man made law but that law doesn't mean anything really. Besides that racist law from a long long time ago, why do people today say 1/2 black and 1/2 white is black? What you are is what you are,

Ok

You're free not to accept the ideology behind the law and it's accompanying cultural inclusion, but it is what it is.

I'm merely trying tobe informative because some folks may be from other countries and aren't aware that this exists here in the USA.

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Reply #97 posted 12/23/16 1:39am

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QueenofCardboard said:



cloveringold85 said:




anangellooksdown said:


T.M.I.!!!!! shake whew shocked

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Yes.....TMI eek





That's funny, I didn't find either confession even a little bit shocking.


And it would be too much information if it was my mom making such a confession to me, but

hearing about something so personal but innocent and harmless from a stranger on the internet



does not make me uncomfortable.


Is there an emoticon for "I Think You Are Overreacting"?





[Edited 12/22/16 20:44pm]



Thank you. There are 'normal' people here afterall.


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Reply #98 posted 12/23/16 1:47am

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Not feeling this
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Reply #99 posted 12/23/16 1:54am

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Prince was a great musician. The Mozart of our times. That's really all that should matter
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Reply #100 posted 12/23/16 2:20am

LBrent

I'm far from being the one who's gonna care or judge who should to be defined as what race or who should identify themself in a racial way.

I was simply trying to explain why racial definitions still exist in the USA in 2016.

That's all.

I'm European French Sephardic Jew and French Creole from Loisiana on my mom's side and Europen Portuguese and Caribbean French Creole from St. Lucia on my dad's side.

I usually don't identify myself by any race because at my age I'm over the whole confining racial box thing but if I did identify myself that way I'd say I'm "mixed" if anything.

Most often I simply identify as Creole if asked, which is rare.

My entire family is a sorta olive complected to butterscotch complected bunch with long curly/wavy hair and most of us marry very dark chocolate people, even though we can't seem to darken the family up generation after generation. LMAO.

Most people mistake us for either Puerto Rican or Dominican if they even care that much.

Frankly, I'm over all of that racial nonsense.

lol wink cool

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Reply #101 posted 12/23/16 11:43am

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mechanicalemotion17 said:

oliviacamron said:


No! No! No! I know about that man made law but that law doesn't mean anything really. Besides that racist law from a long long time ago, why do people today say 1/2 black and 1/2 white is black? What you are is what you are,


Maybe you jut need to change your mindset.
Sounds like you think being Black is a negative that needs to be whitewashed.
Prince's parents both resented the games he played with the media back in the day and both went on record to say they were emphatically Black. Who are you or anyone else to argue with that?
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Im not talking about Prince, I'm talking about people with a parent of another race like my son. He is not black but half black and half white. I never said being black is bad! I'm just saying you are what you are and if someone says different, well that's just their opinion. According to God, there are only 2 races anyway. You are either a Jew or a Gentile.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #102 posted 12/23/16 11:45am

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LBrent said:

I'm far from being the one who's gonna care or judge who should to be defined as what race or who should identify themself in a racial way.



I was simply trying to explain why racial definitions still exist in the USA in 2016.



That's all.



I'm European French Sephardic Jew and French Creole from Loisiana on my mom's side and Europen Portuguese and Caribbean French Creole from St. Lucia on my dad's side.



I usually don't identify myself by any race because at my age I'm over the whole confining racial box thing but if I did identify myself that way I'd say I'm "mixed" if anything.


Most often I simply identify as Creole if asked, which is rare.



My entire family is a sorta olive complected to butterscotch complected bunch with long curly/wavy hair and most of us marry very dark chocolate people, even though we can't seem to darken the family up generation after generation. LMAO.



Most people mistake us for either Puerto Rican or Dominican if they even care that much.



Frankly, I'm over all of that racial nonsense.



lol wink cool


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You sound blessed.
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #103 posted 12/23/16 12:10pm

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oliviacamron said:

mechanicalemotion17 said:



Maybe you jut need to change your mindset.
Sounds like you think being Black is a negative that needs to be whitewashed.
Prince's parents both resented the games he played with the media back in the day and both went on record to say they were emphatically Black. Who are you or anyone else to argue with that?
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Im not talking about Prince, I'm talking about people with a parent of another race like my son. He is not black but half black and half white. I never said being black is bad! I'm just saying you are what you are and if someone says different, well that's just their opinion. According to God, there are only 2 races anyway. You are either a Jew or a Gentile.


Not trying to offend you or anyone else. Unfortunately though. ...the subject is complicated. It shouldn't be, but it is. All I can say is embrace yourself and how you choose to define yourself. Embrace others as well. Live and let live. We're all beautiful and of Creator. Simplistic I know...but that's all I got.
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Reply #104 posted 12/23/16 2:38pm

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oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes......TMI eek

Well, I wanted to get that off my chest. Who else could I tell? The thread ask for confessions. 11 years old is so young. I loved Prince and I knew he was an adult that had sex so I made a decision in my mind that I wanted to marry him and have sex with him. Dont judge me, I was just a kid. But it is scary to think of an 11 year old child actually wanting to have sex. I was very independent and mature for my age though.

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I'm sorry, Olivia. My comment wasn't in reference to what you said. I remember what it was like to be 11 years-old and you have a lot of thoughts and feelings about love and/or sex and well, Prince was a very sexual being -- there's no denying that!! LOL lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #105 posted 12/23/16 3:04pm

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oliviacamron said:

mechanicalemotion17 said:
He wasn't biracial
Mixed and mixed makes more mixed. I know Prince was black but he was other things too. Both parents came from New Orleans? I wonder if they were Creole. His skin is so beautiful he could light up a room

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Yes, Prince had Creole ancestry. Both his parents were from Louisiana. It's been discussed in another thread and "Precioux" was telling me that there were people in New Orleans trying to find out who his relatives were there. It's quite interesting. Prince once said his Mom had Italian ancestry, but I'm not sure if he was being serious or not. He was definitely "mixed race", and even Lenny Kravitz said Prince was mulatto like he was (Lenny had a black mother and white father). You can see Tyka is light-skinned and if you look at that picture where their Grandmother is holding Tyka and Prince, you can see the resemblance. Well, we know for sure that Prince was beautiful -- he had some good genes, for sure!! LOL lol love

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #106 posted 12/23/16 3:10pm

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oliviacamron said:

mechanicalemotion17 said:
Mixed and mixed makes more mixed. I know Prince was black but he was other things too. Both parents came from New Orleans? I wonder if they were Creole. His skin is so beautiful he could light up a room[/quo Whatever makes you more comfortable to believe
Comfortable??? Oh please. If Prince had his ancestry DNA done, there would be about 25- 50 % of something besides African. He called himself a rainbow child .! You obviously have an uncomfortable thought , not me. By the way, my kids father is dark skin. For the longest time I liked my men blackety black black lol

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Amen, Sista!! nod

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This debate over Prince being bi-racial or not has been going on for years! I just wish Prince could have set the record straight, once and for all!! You can tell just by looking at his precious face, he was bi-racial. If you were not born in Africa, you are usually mixed with other european races, most likely. And, if you want to go back to the days of slavery, well, people were getting mixed...not hard to figure that out, LOL (you know what was going on)....I am American, but I am of mixed-ancestry. I know a lot of people are very sensitive to other people saying Prince was "bi-racial". Prince even said himself that he did not look at people and see color.....one love. prince heart

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Reply #107 posted 12/23/16 3:13pm

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purplepoppy said:

Ok, P's parents were both black as we define it broadly. All 4 grandparents were from Louisiana, not NOLA. Haven't done a lot of research but I read the town John ( prince father) came from was northwest closer to Shreveport. Also Native American ancestry in P's family. Fact - Creoles are not just a black/white mix. White people of French/Spanish heritage also call themselves Creoles. Barack Obama is called black but his Mother is white. Confusing yes, but we are more of a melting pot than most of us understand.

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Thanks for pointing that out. I forgot to mention that Prince also had native-american in his bloodline. Yes, people of Creole heritage are mixed with other heritage (French/Spanish), etc.

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Obama's Mommy is white, therefore, he is bi-racial.

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Lenny Kravitz's Daddy was white and his Mommy was black = biracial.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #108 posted 12/23/16 3:16pm

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oliviacamron said:

purplepoppy said:

Ok, P's parents were both black as we define it broadly. All 4 grandparents were from Louisiana, not NOLA. Haven't done a lot of research but I read the town John ( prince father) came from was northwest closer to Shreveport. Also Native American ancestry in P's family. Fact - Creoles are not just a black/white mix. White people of French/Spanish heritage also call themselves Creoles. Barack Obama is called black but his Mother is white. Confusing yes, but we are more of a melting pot than most of us understand.

I don't understand why if your half black, your black. If your half white ,then your half white. My son is mixed. I'm white ,his father was dark skin black. Prince is lighter than my son. Prince also has a lot of body hair like he has some Spain or Mediterranean ancestry . And those thick eyebrows, oh my God they're so sexy . I know this is off topic but I don't know where else to talk about this either. I often ponder what perfect blend Prince is made of. So perfect he could not reproduce himself ( perhaps)

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Ha-ha!! I love what you said, Olivia!! lol falloff

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Prince was just so damn beautiful that he could never be duplicated!! LOL lol

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Someone said (forget who) that being that beautiful should be illegal, LOL lol

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Reply #109 posted 12/23/16 3:17pm

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QueenofCardboard said:

cloveringold85 said:

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You were only 11?! lol

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Prince was bi-racial. Black or white, it doesn't really matter to me. I loved Prince from the moment I laid eyes on him!! batting eyes kisses


I don't think that 11 years old is unusually young for someone to start having sexual fantacies and desires.

I had my first wet dream when I was 9 years old and I went through puberty very late.


I think the argument about what race Prince was is silly.


He is obviously not of pure African descent.

All you have to do is look at him to know that.

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I agree, I think I was 11 or 12 or even younger when I started feeling attracted to men (I mean boys)... and having certain feelings, LMAO! (okay, that was a bit much) lol

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Reply #110 posted 12/23/16 3:21pm

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LBrent said:

I'm far from being the one who's gonna care or judge who should to be defined as what race or who should identify themself in a racial way.

I was simply trying to explain why racial definitions still exist in the USA in 2016.

That's all.

I'm European French Sephardic Jew and French Creole from Loisiana on my mom's side and Europen Portuguese and Caribbean French Creole from St. Lucia on my dad's side.

I usually don't identify myself by any race because at my age I'm over the whole confining racial box thing but if I did identify myself that way I'd say I'm "mixed" if anything.

Most often I simply identify as Creole if asked, which is rare.

My entire family is a sorta olive complected to butterscotch complected bunch with long curly/wavy hair and most of us marry very dark chocolate people, even though we can't seem to darken the family up generation after generation. LMAO.

Most people mistake us for either Puerto Rican or Dominican if they even care that much.

Frankly, I'm over all of that racial nonsense.

lol wink cool

[Edited 12/23/16 3:13am]

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Wow! You are a mutt, just like me!! LOL lol falloff

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Well, most Americans are. lol

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Honestly, I never looked at Prince being black or white........he was just beautiful and one fine sexy ass mofo, if you don't mind me saying, LOL lol lol

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Reply #111 posted 12/23/16 5:11pm

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I think being raised in America must be quite different to being raised in Europe.

"when I did loose my virginity, I didn't really desire sex" - why then?

"But, when I was 11, I really did want to have sex" - wow, that's a bit too young, even for P

"I didn't know Prince was black until my dad told me" - did no-one else read about him or see the afro (I mean, half Italian maybe but not to notice)

"Did it bother me? Heck no!" - what is there to bother anyone?

"he sure was my main sex teacher when I was a teen" - really? As a teen, his sexual behaviour reminded me of my pet dog - humping and licking everything in sight with the odd violent outburst thrown in. I loved them both but I would have been horrified if people I knew behaved like that.

"Also I think the first paire of boobs I've ever seen were Appolonia's in Purple Rain." - What decade was this? I seem to remember them on TV in my childhood. There seemed to be nudist beaches all over Europe in the 70s never mind topless bathing and what about breastfeeding women and communal changing rooms?

And as for no.1 - I had only just returned Lady Cab Driver to my playlist (I often used to cut off the end when I played it as a kid - especially as my mother grimaced, folded her arms and walked off quite often when she heard or saw P - I think she still hates him but is too polite/liberal to say so) but I liked the song - and now its just ruined.

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LOVE this post! having lived in Europe on different occasions I certainly appreciate the mentality behind this post. if ever the chance to live there again pops up, I might well do it..!

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Reply #112 posted 12/23/16 6:35pm

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I'm only 11 months younger than Prince. Way back, my girlfriends and I loved him because - not only was he sexy, funky and gorgeous - he was such a naughty little boy. He had our hormones a-ragin' !!! I would only listen to Lady Cab Driver when I was alone, driving in my car lol. Prince was for the grown folks, ya'll.

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Reply #113 posted 12/23/16 7:16pm

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cloveringold85 said:



oliviacamron said:


cloveringold85 said:


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Yes.....TMI eek




Well, I wanted to get that off my chest. Who else could I tell? The thread ask for confessions. 11 years old is so young. I loved Prince and I knew he was an adult that had sex so I made a decision in my mind that I wanted to marry him and have sex with him. Dont judge me, I was just a kid. But it is scary to think of an 11 year old child actually wanting to have sex. I was very independent and mature for my age though.

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I'm sorry, Olivia. My comment wasn't in reference to what you said. I remember what it was like to be 11 years-old and you have a lot of thoughts and feelings about love and/or sex and well, Prince was a very sexual being -- there's no denying that!! LOL lol



Clover, I didn't take it in a bad way ,more of a funny way because I know you. lol
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #114 posted 12/24/16 12:32am

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Kinda disturbing that this thread has been hijacked from my original idea to turn out to be a debate about Prince's racial heritage. Equally disturbing is that through the hijacking what becomes crystal clear is the reminder that our minds are still stuck there and we haven't progressed beyond this. Prince and his family identify(identified) as Black. As African American. Where does the debate come in? As everyone knows Prince played it up early in his career to his advantage in gaining ground in the music industry. You can say want you want about the decisions he made back then but the true tragedy....is that he even felt he had to. And that it worked! Its evident here that a lot if orgers still hold onto this and refuse to let it go, almost as if they wouldn't feel as comfortable idolizing and adoring him and his music if he's simply a 'Black' man. The comments that state how "beautiful" and "delicate" his features were then quickly follow that up by stating he was "obviously" of mixed heritage are particularly telling. I've also noticed hints of this reflected in the threads where orgers discuss his various hairstyles and many of the commenters come forward to say they hated when he had the afro. Strange because that was his hair in its natural state. How can you hate that? People speak of a decline in his music after the 80's that caused him to lose a huge part of his fanbase....but I wonder how much of it was actually because he became emphatically more pro Black and unapologeticly clear about what his racial background was around that same era.

hmmm hmmm hmmm
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Reply #115 posted 12/24/16 12:44am

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mechanicalemotion17 said:

Kinda disturbing that this thread has been hijacked from my original idea to turn out to be a debate about Prince's racial heritage. Equally disturbing is that through the hijacking what becomes crystal clear is the reminder that our minds are still stuck there and we haven't progressed beyond this. Prince and his family identify(identified) as Black. As African American. Where does the debate come in? As everyone knows Prince played it up early in his career to his advantage in gaining ground in the music industry. You can say want you want about the decisions he made back then but the true tragedy....is that he even felt he had to. And that it worked! Its evident here that a lot if orgers still hold onto this and refuse to let it go, almost as if they wouldn't feel as comfortable idolizing and adoring him and his music if he's simply a 'Black' man. The comments that state how "beautiful" and "delicate" his features were then quickly follow that up by stating he was "obviously" of mixed heritage are particularly telling. I've also noticed hints of this reflected in the threads where orgers discuss his various hairstyles and many of the commenters come forward to say they hated when he had the afro. Strange because that was his hair in its natural state. How can you hate that? People speak of a decline in his music after the 80's that caused him to lose a huge part of his fanbase....but I wonder how much of it was actually because he became emphatically more pro Black and unapologeticly clear about what his racial background was around that same era.

hmmm hmmm hmmm
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I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #116 posted 12/24/16 12:50am

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So back on perverted conversation, you see my avatar razz I had the Rolling Stone magazine back in 1984 with that photo on the cover. I was 11( you already knew that) and I use to stare at that photo forever and to this day I still want to lick his underarms

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I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #117 posted 12/24/16 1:04am

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Interestingly I've always noticed that when a certain group of people ask me about my racial background...for whatever reason, whether it be simply out of curiosity or to feel more comfortable around me....and I answer Black(which is perfectly clear as far as I'm concerned), for some reason they oftentimes feel the need to create their own narrative beyond the one I give and tell me what THEY think my racial makeup is. I'm even told often by some of the people in these conversations that they can detect a foreign accent when I tell them that I'm African American.
The arrogance is astounding
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Reply #118 posted 12/24/16 1:13am

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oliviacamron said:

So back on perverted conversation, you see my avatar razz I had the Rolling Stone magazine back in 1984 with that photo on the cover. I was 11( you already knew that) and I use to stare at that photo forever and to this day I still want to lick his underarms

lick


Thank you for ushering us back.

I think I had that same fantasy at one time or another.

I also had that poster of him in the shower
wearing the bikini briefs stashed in my secret place to pull out for 'extra naughty' occasions. I remember some of the beads of water found the most interesting place to gather and stream from
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Reply #119 posted 12/24/16 1:30am

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oliviacamron said:

So back on perverted conversation, you see my avatar razz I had the Rolling Stone magazine back in 1984 with that photo on the cover. I was 11( you already knew that) and I use to stare at that photo forever and to this day I still want to lick his underarms

lick


I submitted another confession earlier in this thread about how a girl I dated back in junior high had the bikini underwear shower poster on the back of her bedroom door and how when we...*ahem...heavy petted in her bedroom I would sometimes focus on that poster when there was a need to speed up my 'pretty mess' out of fear of being caught by her parents/siblings.

I ended up deleting the post out of my frustration with all the puritans and race baiters who were acting as if talking about the sexual curiosities that Prince's music awakened in the young me was so vehemently appallingly

Like...how dare I admit that I masturbated at 11! What kind of disturbed individual would do such a thing?!
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