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Reply #30 posted 12/13/16 11:14am

FlyOnTheWall

OldFriends4Sale said:

jdcxc said:

It's interesting how all his associates try to carve out there specific place in his orbit. The truth is that without Prince there is no Wendy, Lisa, Sheila E, Morris Day...as we know them.

What article are U reading?

I don't think these have to carve out there specific place. It's etched in stone.

I agree. It makes you wonder why they always seem to be trying to cement their legacy, which is already undeniable. It's really beneath them. Also, I like them and everything, but IMHO, they have tended to sound judgemental of other associates since P's passing.

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Reply #31 posted 12/13/16 11:18am

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paulludvig said:

NouveauDance said:

Exactly.

I'm reading the same interview as jdcxc.

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Reply #32 posted 12/13/16 11:21am

OldFriends4Sal
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FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

What article are U reading?

I don't think these have to carve out there specific place. It's etched in stone.

I agree. It makes you wonder why they always seem to be trying to cement their legacy, which is already undeniable. It's really beneath them. Also, I like them and everything, but IMHO, they have tended to sound judgemental of other associates since P's passing.

I think U misread my comment.

I'm also talking about Sheila E & the Time.

I don't think they are 'always trying to do it' they are just talking about a wonderful time.
I want to hear more from many others too. I'm loving BrownMarks podcast.

I don't know anything about them sounding judgemental of others. Never heard that.

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Reply #33 posted 12/13/16 11:26am

sonshine

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I loved Mark's comments. It's obvious he had loads of respect for Prince and genuinely looks at the Revolution as family. I hope Prince knew and appreciated how much these band members still carried him in their hearts all these years. I loved the Revolution. They are still my favorite Prince band. Members of NPG were always coming and going, the line up was always changing. There was too much going on at times on the stage. The Revolution were the real deal imo.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #34 posted 12/13/16 11:48am

Latin

In case anyone missed it, this is the other recent article, consisting of an interview with The Revolution, published by Billboard:

http://prince.org/msg/7/435560
[Edited 12/13/16 11:50am]
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Reply #35 posted 12/13/16 11:49am

NouveauDance

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paulludvig said:

I'm reading the same interview as jdcxc.

Shocking.

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Reply #36 posted 12/13/16 12:14pm

paulludvig

NouveauDance said:



paulludvig said:


I'm reading the same interview as jdcxc.

Shocking.



Really? lol
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Reply #37 posted 12/13/16 12:33pm

jaawwnn

laurarichardson said:

jaawwnn said:

BrownMark specifies:

Mark: To say he was a drug addict and all that kind of stuff, it just pissed me off. He was hurting, he was in pain [from hip surgery], he was in pain. He made a couple of mistakes, like any of us.


So I presume he was talking about the drug dealer guys and the like rather than ex band members who would know what they were talking about. As he says: you can tell when something’s real and when something’s just [someone seizing] an opportunity which means he didn't think everyone interviewed was being dishonest.

Where are you getting that from. He is saying some people are being dishonest. Dude made mistakes but know one who really knew him has said anything about him being a recreational drug user. I also wish some fans would take the joint pain stituation seriously. This is a medical issues that in all reality was never going to go away.

where am I getting what from? As far as I can tell i'm on the same page as you in this thread.

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Reply #38 posted 12/13/16 1:04pm

lwr001

purplerabbithole said:

She said something about him being her best friend but when asked if he had any surviving family members, she said "sister and maybe his mom"...Come on, a 'best' friend would know his mom was dead. She talked the very day of his death as well. I am not saying she was lying about him, just exagerrating her association.

FlyOnTheWall said:

What did Nik West do?

[Edited 12/12/16 20:29pm]

well she was with him when he did the P&M in Australia ..

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Reply #39 posted 12/13/16 1:17pm

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Thanks for posting. Great interview. I like them a lot and would love to hear them live.
Couple of questions remain.
Who do they think is not genuine? (just being nosey cool
And what did Brownmark mean by saying that Prince made a couple of mistakes? Addiction to pain killers is a serious situation, not a one off mistake. sad
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Reply #40 posted 12/13/16 1:28pm

FlyOnTheWall

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I agree. It makes you wonder why they always seem to be trying to cement their legacy, which is already undeniable. It's really beneath them. Also, I like them and everything, but IMHO, they have tended to sound judgemental of other associates since P's passing.

I think U misread my comment.

I'm also talking about Sheila E & the Time.

I don't think they are 'always trying to do it' they are just talking about a wonderful time.
I want to hear more from many others too. I'm loving BrownMarks podcast.

I don't know anything about them sounding judgemental of others. Never heard that.

Okay. Thanks for clarifying, OF4S. I was strictly referring to comments attributed to The Revolution in this article, as well as previous ones. Also, I've been meaning to catch up on Brown Mark's podcast. I've only heard the first one, and I really liked it. He has a great "radio" voice.

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Reply #41 posted 12/13/16 1:43pm

FlyOnTheWall

Superconductor said:

Thanks for posting. Great interview. I like them a lot and would love to hear them live. Couple of questions remain. Who do they think is not genuine? (just being nosey cool And what did Brownmark mean by saying that Prince made a couple of mistakes? Addiction to pain killers is a serious situation, not a one off mistake. sad

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Reply #42 posted 12/13/16 1:46pm

jaawwnn

It only takes a couple of mistakes in a row to find yourself addicted to something shrug

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Reply #43 posted 12/13/16 2:36pm

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jaawwnn said:

It only takes a couple of mistakes in a row to find yourself addicted to something shrug


// You know the mistake of joint pain and surgery😳
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Reply #44 posted 12/13/16 2:56pm

jaawwnn

laurarichardson said:

jaawwnn said:

It only takes a couple of mistakes in a row to find yourself addicted to something shrug

// You know the mistake of joint pain and surgery😳

What i'm saying is that addiction can happen to the best of us and that it creeps up in innocuous not dramatic ways, if it happened to Prince then case in point. There's no shame in it. Quit trying to pick a fight with me.

[Edited 12/13/16 15:11pm]

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Reply #45 posted 12/13/16 6:03pm

Superconductor

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jaawwnn said:



laurarichardson said:


jaawwnn said:

It only takes a couple of mistakes in a row to find yourself addicted to something shrug



// You know the mistake of joint pain and surgery😳

What i'm saying is that addiction can happen to the best of us and that it creeps up in innocuous not dramatic ways, if it happened to Prince then case in point. There's no shame in it. Quit trying to pick a fight with me.


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Hey before you two go off on a tangent, having chronic pain is no mistake and taking painkillers and getting dependent on them is no mistake either
BUT hwat I tried to say in my original comment was what Brownmark referred to as a couple of mistakes. If he referred to taking illicit painkillers as a mistake then that would be strange because being addicted to painkillers is more than a mistake, not in a blame sense, but then one needs professional help and not getting it is a mistake. Fatal mistake. So I am just a bit confused by that remark from Brownmark. I get that it is not fair to say Prince was a drug addict as in recereational user if he was in chronic pain but not getting professional help is reckless, and I hope Brownmark meant something else.
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Reply #46 posted 12/13/16 6:28pm

IsufferfromMPS

I think they all have a genuine love for Prince,but to me it seems like Mark was the most affected. Prince was truly his mentor and took him under his wing and taught him everything. The others, although they speak with love about him,u hear a little bitterness every now and then *probably rightfully so* but Mark never comes across that way to me.
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Reply #47 posted 12/13/16 6:39pm

luvgirl

This was a nice interview. It makes me feel a little better about the way they came off after he died when they immediately post that debacle of a video to announce that they were going on tour in a most unconscionable manner. I was in a bad place with them for a while. I appreciate the respect they showed him here. You could feel Brown Mark's emotions. sad
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Reply #48 posted 12/14/16 3:53am

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Superconductor said:

Thanks for posting. Great interview. I like them a lot and would love to hear them live. Couple of questions remain. Who do they think is not genuine? (just being nosey cool And what did Brownmark mean by saying that Prince made a couple of mistakes? Addiction to pain killers is a serious situation, not a one off mistake. sad

Pain is a serious situation

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Reply #49 posted 12/14/16 4:01am

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jaawwnn said:

laurarichardson said:

jaawwnn said: // You know the mistake of joint pain and surgery😳

What i'm saying is that addiction can happen to the best of us and that it creeps up in innocuous not dramatic ways, if it happened to Prince then case in point. There's no shame in it. Quit trying to pick a fight with me.

[Edited 12/13/16 15:11pm]

I am not trying to pick a fight with you. Why can't people on this board have a discussion without taking something as a personal attack? I do not think all of Prince's problems were just about addiction. I also do not think some people realize that celebrities cannot disclose their problems because they are insured by promoters, movie studios, or television productions.

Trust me if word had got out that he had joint issues and pain pill problems he would have had trouble keeping his show on the road.

In addition, it is his personal business. Maybe it had nothing to do with shame. Who gets on a roof top and tells the world their health problems? I also wish more people would think about how powerful these pain med are and what they are actually doing to people health wise and put the blame on big pharma.No one makes themselves have joint pain and the only solutions avalible are these pain meds.

I am not so sure this is being taken into consideration.

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Reply #50 posted 12/14/16 4:10am

joytotheworld

Good article and enjoyed gaining more insight into the enigma of Prince. What caught my attention was that both Wendy and Tyka mention getting the "He's gone" call/message (as if it was expected ). Just saying. Peace

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Reply #51 posted 12/14/16 6:46am

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IsufferfromMPS said:

I think they all have a genuine love for Prince,but to me it seems like Mark was the most affected. Prince was truly his mentor and took him under his wing and taught him everything. The others, although they speak with love about him,u hear a little bitterness every now and then *probably rightfully so* but Mark never comes across that way to me.

I have sensed this from day one about Mark. Reading that interview I just wanted to reach through the words and give him the biggest hug in the world! I find myself addicted to his podcasts especially when he tells his Prince stories. I find myself laughing, cheering, and sometimes a little teary eyed when he tells one of his stories. I can't wait for his book to come out in up coming months called "My Time In Purple Kingdom!" I got a feeling it will be one to make us all laugh till we cry and cry til we laugh

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Reply #52 posted 12/14/16 6:52am

Latin

justAmeda said:



IsufferfromMPS said:


I think they all have a genuine love for Prince,but to me it seems like Mark was the most affected. Prince was truly his mentor and took him under his wing and taught him everything. The others, although they speak with love about him,u hear a little bitterness every now and then *probably rightfully so* but Mark never comes across that way to me.

I have sensed this from day one about Mark. Reading that interview I just wanted to reach through the words and give him the biggest hug in the world! I find myself addicted to his podcasts especially when he tells his Prince stories. I find myself laughing, cheering, and sometimes a little teary eyed when he tells one of his stories. I can't wait for his book to come out in up coming months called "My Time In Purple Kingdom!" I got a feeling it will be one to make us all laugh till we cry and cry til we laugh



It's great to learn that he is releasing this book. Thanks for sharing.
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Reply #53 posted 12/14/16 6:27pm

NatePerk

Can someone explain to me the reference to Fleetwood Mack as the band that Prince wanted the Revolution to be?

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Reply #54 posted 12/14/16 7:25pm

FlyOnTheWall

joytotheworld said:

Good article and enjoyed gaining more insight into the enigma of Prince. What caught my attention was that both Wendy and Tyka mention getting the "He's gone" call/message (as if it was expected ). Just saying. Peace

Hi, joy! I'm going to have to go back and reread the article, but I thought Wendy's reference to a "He's gone" call was after first hearing the news of a fatality at Paisley Park. I could be wrong, though.

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Reply #55 posted 12/15/16 1:07am

SoulAlive

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Can someone explain to me the reference to Fleetwood Mack as the band that Prince wanted the Revolution to be?

the only thing I can think of is....both bands have two women shrug

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Reply #56 posted 12/15/16 9:40pm

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justAmeda said:



IsufferfromMPS said:


I think they all have a genuine love for Prince,but to me it seems like Mark was the most affected. Prince was truly his mentor and took him under his wing and taught him everything. The others, although they speak with love about him,u hear a little bitterness every now and then *probably rightfully so* but Mark never comes across that way to me.

I have sensed this from day one about Mark. Reading that interview I just wanted to reach through the words and give him the biggest hug in the world! I find myself addicted to his podcasts especially when he tells his Prince stories. I find myself laughing, cheering, and sometimes a little teary eyed when he tells one of his stories. I can't wait for his book to come out in up coming months called "My Time In Purple Kingdom!" I got a feeling it will be one to make us all laugh till we cry and cry til we laugh


Mark was absolutely loving every minute with the band and the crowd during their show I saw at 1st Av in sept. He seems genuine and was very engaging with the band and the people in attendance. He did a great job on stage that night and I felt honored to be there in large part due to his sincerity and overall positive attitude.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #57 posted 12/15/16 11:52pm

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WOW, fantastic read!! cry
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #58 posted 12/16/16 2:27am

lwr001

i do think that with Hannah, Ida and Donna plus Josh he had another family..I didnt view them as employee/employer relationship as he has had int he past..They were something different..Further, i beleive Mr Hayes was as tight or tighter with Prince then all members of the revolution..They had no reason to put others down ; their legacy was cemented along time ago...

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Reply #59 posted 12/16/16 4:03am

purplerabbitho
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It does seem that Prince was tight with the Thirdeyegirl folks and Mr. Hayes. But I guess what taints that picture of family is that he obviously was suffering drug addiction when he knew these folks. I don't blame them but I think he did keep some stuff from them. I am not sure during the Revolution if Prince could have hidden an addiction. Hard to say...though. He could be very compartmentalized and secret.

Creatively however I do agree that 3rdeyegirl members had more imput that other units he worked with.

lwr001 said:

i do think that with Hannah, Ida and Donna plus Josh he had another family..I didnt view them as employee/employer relationship as he has had int he past..They were something different..Further, i beleive Mr Hayes was as tight or tighter with Prince then all members of the revolution..They had no reason to put others down ; their legacy was cemented along time ago...

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