laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I don't see why this should come as a surprise to anyone. Also Prince is the last person who would take out private health insurance. He lived very much in the present.

WTF does living in the present have to do with it. He could afford to pay for any doctor bills he had and even if had insurance it does not mean he would not have been stuck with bills.

You really lack social nous, don't you? Maybe you should read up on psychology so you can understand people better. Moreover, it'll improve your cognition and you'll be able to discern between truth and fiction better, so you and others can stop with the murder conspiracy nonsense.

laurarichardson said:

803 said:

Also...this is something that I didn't know until recently but sometimes people who have wealth don't carry health insurance. They consider it a waste of money since they have the ability to pay their medical expenses.

fortuneandserendipity said:

I don't see why this should come as a surprise to anyone. Also Prince is the last person who would take out private health insurance. He lived very much in the present.

living in the present has nothing to do with it. He could afford to pay for any doctor bills he had and even if had insurance it does not mean he would not have been stuck with bills.

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You're quite the idiot. I was addressing 803's particular point about people in general, how the wealthy don't need to worry about health insurance bc they can pay anything up front. Get a clue.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

There is no chance that P committed suicide because the coroner ruled it out already if you really think there is a massive conspiracy or that the autorities are so incompetent to not know a suicide you need help. There is mounting evidence that he had an illness beyond joint pain and it did not have to be terminal maybe it just hurt like hell which is much more belivable than this suicide nonsense. I also would like to make clear I don't give a fuck if he was using pain pills if had pain. The concern should be on who got him those pills as I do not know many drug addicts who actually tell people they are going to see their doctor about their health and test run if the are simply just dope addicts. You don't need to go back and forth to a doctor to be told you are on drugs or feeling bad from withdrawals. We are lucky the police are investigation this and not you. [Edited 1/9/17 7:15am]

No you just changed your mind bc you realised you hadn't correctly grasped Bowie's cancer diagnosis/prognosis timeline. Which reminds me, there was nothing in those Robin Williams links you provided earlier, alleging that he'd been walking into walls. What was the point of giving links that didn't back up your argument?

There is no massive conspiracy. On the other hand there's a strong improbability, (looking at the coroner's conclusion from a rational questioning perspective, instead of just buying whatever experts say), that she could know for certain this was an accidental OD and not suicide. (With that said, I'm assuming the veracity of the claim there was enough fentanyl found to kill an elephant). If the level of fentanyl was indeed only slightly above say the human equivalent of LD50, that would increase the probability of accidental OD. Conversely, if the level was way higher and there was no way to tell how many pills he had taken in the recent hours (something noone knows due to varied assortment of batches), then she should have marked the box 'undetermined'. To err on the side of caution she should have marked the box 'undetermined'. (The autopsist's prior expertise was in fentanyl btw, which could potentially facilitate confirmation bias. But I'm ignoring that particular argument).

There were also other drugs allegedly found in his bloodstream, by themselves toxic, that could easily have contributed, a fact that is a daily occurrence in america for that matter - death from multiple prescription drug interactions. Again, lower amounts would reinforce theory of accidental OD, higher amounts suicide.

To look at the bigger picture though, I believe she would have felt pressure to provide closure, to draw a line under it, and maybe she didn't want to have her competency questioned with an indecisive conclusion. That's without direct pressure put on her by the Nelson family, which someone on this thread assumes a strong possiblity.

Nothing worse then or different than having his parasympathetic nervous system messed up from the opiates - which in layman's speak means digestion problems - and possibly liver damage from the paracetamol. You're right to acknowledge it wasn't terminal if that's what you're saying - bc there's no evidence for that degree of illness - but those extra health issues I mentioned would have contributed to depressed mood, instability. The digestive system is the 'second brain'. You can't have a healthy brain if you don't have healthy digestion. And an adectote for that evidence relating to P comes from his very own chef! But if you don't like that evidence you may choose to ignore it, so it fits your belief system and what you want to believe.

You are so incapable of doing any reserch on your own I will make this short. If you read the whole People article which I did read but the entire article is not posted online. Robin's wife tells you that they had been dealing with mental confusion for a while in the article she mentioned him walking into a wall and having his face bloodied and not being able to tell her what happened. (this was in the People article on the newsstand not on-line ) They received a misdiagnosis on him which is explanined in the article on-line which I guess you did not read at all and in the PBS doc. He had the Lewy form of Parkinson and she was going to put him in a hospice. Did you read the mental confusion this disease causes? He did not know what he was doing when committed suicide. I doubt he knew his own name.

Every ill person does not run and commit suicide.

I misread what the Guardian article stated but my point was no one knew he had cancer until he died and he had been dealing with it for 18 months. You seem to think it would be impossible for Prince to have kept any illness a secret which is ridculous. If you want to keep something a secret you keep your mouth closed.

Sweetie I have digestive problems and their is nothing wrong with my brain and I do not think because the ME had a background dealing with Fentanyl that she was biased. They said he had enought Fentanyl to kill a whale that is why he died from it. The did not find a note and they have spoken to his doctors and associates they do not have enough evidence to say he killed himself end of story.

You are implying people are not being professional and I have said from the very begining if had been taking pain pills for years with or without an Rx he could have killed his liver and damaged his digestive system. ( Last time I looked bad liver function is the road to the end) You do not have to kill yourself because your digestive system is jacked up you eat soup and smoothies which I what use to do.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

living in the present has nothing to do with it. He could afford to pay for any doctor bills he had and even if had insurance it does not mean he would not have been stuck with bills.

[Edited 1/9/17 11:13am]

You're quite the idiot. I was addressing 803's particular point about people in general, how the wealthy don't need to worry about health insurance bc they can pay anything up front. Get a clue.

"He lived very much in the present." You typed this so we know who has a problem. You think you know what his thougts were!!! Did you know he had Gold bars or how much lint he had in his pockets when he died as well.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

WTF does living in the present have to do with it. He could afford to pay for any doctor bills he had and even if had insurance it does not mean he would not have been stuck with bills.

You really lack social nous, don't you? Maybe you should read up on psychology so you can understand people better. Moreover, it'll improve your cognition and you'll be able to discern between truth and fiction better, so you and others can stop with the murder conspiracy nonsense.

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You are the one on the suicide tip not me. I have never side there was a conspiracy to murder him.

You got me confused with someone else. I said someone gave him those pills ( common sense since they did not find a pill lab in the basement of Paisley Park ) They either did it or purpose or by accident but this is a homicide case not a closed sucide case. ( Something you do not seem to understand)

Who is not in touch with reality?

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

You really lack social nous, don't you? Maybe you should read up on psychology so you can understand people better. Moreover, it'll improve your cognition and you'll be able to discern between truth and fiction better, so you and others can stop with the murder conspiracy nonsense.

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You are the one on the suicide tip not me. I have never side there was a conspiracy to murder him.

You got me confused with someone else. I said someone gave him those pills ( common sense since they did not find a pill lab in the basement of Paisley Park ) They either did it or purpose or by accident but this is a homicide case not a closed sucide case. ( Something you do not seem to understand)

Who is not in touch with reality?

To be fair, he could have got the pills himself: he was perfectly capable of using the internet - or he could have exhorted contacts to source them for him.

Also, having a terminal (or chronic) illness does not exclude either suicide or 'deliberate, self-induced, accident'. I would say that ruling out suicide so soon may have been erroneous - and, yes, errors on autopsy reports can and do happen (in about 48% of cases, no less).

Dibblekins said:

laurarichardson said:

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You are the one on the suicide tip not me. I have never side there was a conspiracy to murder him.

You got me confused with someone else. I said someone gave him those pills ( common sense since they did not find a pill lab in the basement of Paisley Park ) They either did it or purpose or by accident but this is a homicide case not a closed sucide case. ( Something you do not seem to understand)

Who is not in touch with reality?

To be fair, he could have got the pills himself: he was perfectly capable of using the internet - or he could have exhorted contacts to source them for him.

Also, having a terminal (or chronic) illness does not exclude either suicide or 'deliberate, self-induced, accident'. I would say that ruling out suicide so soon may have been erroneous - and, yes, errors on autopsy reports can and do happen (in about 48% of cases, no less).

or he could have exhorted contacts to source them for him. ( That would be people getting them for him. In the police press release they said they were looking at person or persons including underworld figures. They are looking for a person or persons.

Well at this point they are not treating like a suicide. What do you think are the chances they are going to change anything at this point.

laurarichardson said:

You are so incapable of doing any reserch on your own I will make this short. If you read the whole People article which I did read but the entire article is not posted online. Robin's wife tells you that they had been dealing with mental confusion for a while in the article she mentioned him walking into a wall and having his face bloodied and not being able to tell her what happened. (this was in the People article on the newsstand not on-line ) They received a misdiagnosis on him which is explanined in the article on-line which I guess you did not read at all and in the PBS doc. He had the Lewy form of Parkinson and she was going to put him in a hospice. Did you read the mental confusion this disease causes? He did not know what he was doing when committed suicide. I doubt he knew his own name.

Every ill person does not run and commit suicide.

I misread what the Guardian article stated but my point was no one knew he had cancer until he died and he had been dealing with it for 18 months. You seem to think it would be impossible for Prince to have kept any illness a secret which is ridculous. If you want to keep something a secret you keep your mouth closed.

Sweetie I have digestive problems and their is nothing wrong with my brain and I do not think because the ME had a background dealing with Fentanyl that she was biased. They said he had enought Fentanyl to kill a whale that is why he died from it. The did not find a note and they have spoken to his doctors and associates they do not have enough evidence to say he killed himself end of story.

You are implying people are not being professional and I have said from the very begining if had been taking pain pills for years with or without an Rx he could have killed his liver and damaged his digestive system. ( Last time I looked bad liver function is the road to the end) You do not have to kill yourself because your digestive system is jacked up you eat soup and smoothies which I what use to do.

NO I did the research, through a search engine and through the links you provided. There was no mention of Williams walking into walls. It's nowhere on the internet, and there's no reference to any additional article in a magazine. I saw the documentary and it went into more detail about his problems than the sum amount of those two links. So why do you assume people don't know anything about what they're contributing, discussing?

I doubt there's nothing wrong with your brain but if you say so. Anyone who has serious digestive problems, which P was assumed by his chef to be suffering from, is going to have mental problems. That's just a fact, it may not be a well known fact but it is one all the same. There's a relevant book called Gut and Psychology Syndrome for one. Schizophrenics and autistics suffer badly from that issue and they're at the extreme end. Milder issues affect people to a milder degree. And that's why P would not have been very content or happy - that is safe to assume, given what his chef said, given what dr drew had to say on the subject, in which he went into great detail. Trust him, he's a doctor! (Having said that, not all doctors are that professional or knowledgeable).

Oh yeah, something else about suicide. Many loved ones, friends, people known to the victim always seem shocked to learn of someone's passing that way. And do I really have to mention again, most suicides aren't accompanied by a note? Oops, just did.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

You really lack social nous, don't you? Maybe you should read up on psychology so you can understand people better. Moreover, it'll improve your cognition and you'll be able to discern between truth and fiction better, so you and others can stop with the murder conspiracy nonsense.

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You are the one on the suicide tip not me. I have never side there was a conspiracy to murder him.

You got me confused with someone else. I said someone gave him those pills ( common sense since they did not find a pill lab in the basement of Paisley Park ) They either did it or purpose or by accident but this is a homicide case not a closed sucide case. ( Something you do not seem to understand)

Who is not in touch with reality?

See below from other thread... at the very least you like to feed the 'murder conspiracy theorists' tidbits. I'm staggered actually you can't recognise that, bc there are multiple posts of your providing ammunition for their theories.

Like for example, how can the apparent gunfire in the vicinity of Paisley Park be accounted for? Who turned off the CCTV? Why were doors left wide open for ages before police sealed the premises? It's like Jessica Fletcher on steroids.

I'd also love to know how people are so certain about the prior blood test result showing no fentanyl. It doesn't change anything for me, I'm just curious why people leap on it when there's no first hand source identified? I mean being sceptical is only fair, so where's the proof, where's the documentation?

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Hmmm this^^^both quotes above IMO-- were to set up to make it look like Prince was using those pills regularly. The leaked info we have been given ie, fentanyl only in his system within the last 24 hrs discredited who ever was setting up that scenario. Keeps us going around in the same circles

laurarichardson said:

-I think a lot of people forgetting that Paisley Park was open with people going and going before the police came back with a search warrant. Anyone could have planted any thing in his room and if he had an RX for Oxy with someone else's name on it how come that person had not been arrested? Since the same unknowns sources state that no Dr.shopping was going on? It does not matter what other drugs were found in that room what killed him was Fentenyl which was not in his system the day before.

fortuneandserendipity said:

NO I did the research, through a search engine and through the links you provided. There was no mention of Williams walking into walls. It's nowhere on the internet, and there's no reference to any additional article in a magazine. I saw the documentary and it went into more detail about his problems than the sum amount of those two links. So why do you assume people don't know anything about what they're contributing, discussing?

I doubt there's nothing wrong with your brain but if you say so. Anyone who has serious digestive problems, which P was assumed by his chef to be suffering from, is going to have mental problems. That's just a fact, it may not be a well known fact but it is one all the same. There's a relevant book called Gut and Psychology Syndrome for one. Schizophrenics and autistics suffer badly from that issue and they're at the extreme end. Milder issues affect people to a milder degree. And that's why P would not have been very content or happy - that is safe to assume, given what his chef said, given what dr drew had to say on the subject, in which he went into great detail. Trust him, he's a doctor! (Having said that, not all doctors are that professional or knowledgeable).

Oh yeah, something else about suicide. Many loved ones, friends, people known to the victim always seem shocked to learn of someone's passing that way. And do I really have to mention again, most suicides aren't accompanied by a note? Oops, just did.

You do know there's a very long list of reasons that could explain the handful of Prince's symptoms we know about? Why is your explanation so valid? Sure it's possible but given all of the info known so far, it is the least simplistic and reasonable, so for me is way down on the bottom of the list.

KoolEaze said:

CandaceS said:

My thoughts on the itemized listing:

Dayum he had a lot of vehicles!!

"Licensing income from Asthmatic Kitty Records" ?!

$121K in insurance premiums just to cover the music ?! But I guess such coverage is essential and worth it.

Over $1.2 million for "security costs" ?!

$8K for "Vault/safe repairs" and another $8K for locksmith charges?

$700 for "Pet expense" ?! For two doves?! Or are there other living pets I'm unaware of?

How the hell did it cost them almost $11K to sell the gold bars?!

$61K medical expenses may look like a lot to some, but its not that hard to run up a bill that size, especially if you don't carry any insurance.

$20K for "social media takedowns" ?! WTF?! P.S. Estate: start releasing things and people won't be posting so much stuff!

Friggin' attorneys and other "professionals" are getting rich off this...SMH but that's what happens when you have a big, complex estate but no estate plan.

I actually expected more vehicles. Or is there a second list I´m not aware of?

What I see is a bus, two old BMWs, three motorcycles (by the way, wasn´t the Graffiti Bridge motorcycle the same as in Purple Rain, just modified? Now I see three motorcycles of which one is the one from Purple Rain and one from B). And the Buick from Under the Cherry Moon.

Where is the Purple Prowler (the Plymouth) ?

Where is the Bentley?

You are talking about this list, right? http://stmedia.startribun...010716.pdf

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And why is the list of songs relatively short? I´m not talking about that first list starting with Emancipation but that second, longer list. Where are most of the songs that we already have heard?

Back to the estate -- See the article from Star today about some of the lawyers fees being too high and performing task that were of no benefit to the estate.

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http://www.startribune.com/special-administrator-not-all-law-firms-seeking-1-2-million-in-payment-benefitted-prince-estate/410134635/

laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

To be fair, he could have got the pills himself: he was perfectly capable of using the internet - or he could have exhorted contacts to source them for him.

Also, having a terminal (or chronic) illness does not exclude either suicide or 'deliberate, self-induced, accident'. I would say that ruling out suicide so soon may have been erroneous - and, yes, errors on autopsy reports can and do happen (in about 48% of cases, no less).

or he could have exhorted contacts to source them for him. ( That would be people getting them for him. In the police press release they said they were looking at person or persons including underworld figures. They are looking for a person or persons.

Well at this point they are not treating like a suicide. What do you think are the chances they are going to change anything at this point.

Let's just ignore the possible fact ~48% of autopsy reports contain some degree of error. Because erm all experts are experts and experts are infallible, god-like in fact. Especially coroners.

In fact they even host funerals in laurarichardson's world.

[Edited 1/9/17 12:30pm]

fortuneandserendipity said:

NO I did the research, through a search engine and through the links you provided. There was no mention of Williams walking into walls. It's nowhere on the internet, and there's no reference to any additional article in a magazine. I saw the documentary and it went into more detail about his problems than the sum amount of those two links. So why do you assume people don't know anything about what they're contributing, discussing?

I doubt there's nothing wrong with your brain but if you say so. Anyone who has serious digestive problems, which P was assumed by his chef to be suffering from, is going to have mental problems. That's just a fact, it may not be a well known fact but it is one all the same. There's a relevant book called Gut and Psychology Syndrome for one. Schizophrenics and autistics suffer badly from that issue and they're at the extreme end. Milder issues affect people to a milder degree. And that's why P would not have been very content or happy - that is safe to assume, given what his chef said, given what dr drew had to say on the subject, in which he went into great detail. Trust him, he's a doctor! (Having said that, not all doctors are that professional or knowledgeable).

Oh yeah, something else about suicide. Many loved ones, friends, people known to the victim always seem shocked to learn of someone's passing that way. And do I really have to mention again, most suicides aren't accompanied by a note? Oops, just did.

Once again the information about Robin walking into the wall came from the newsstand edition of People it is not in the on-line additon. They even state that the full article is not online.

Please see these links that explain Lewy. He was not in his right mind and it blows you foolishness about him wanting to kill himself out of the water.

http://www.newser.com/sto...brain.html

http://sanfrancisco.cbslo...-his-mind/

https://www.yahoo.com/new...03307.html

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Schizophrenics and autistics --- Which one was he?

Trust him, he's a doctor! (Having said that, not all doctors are that professional or knowledgeable). Okay remember you are typing this suff.

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My GI was from John Hopkins they know what they are doing and most of the stuff out about gut problems is total quakery. Gut problems are going to make you hungery but their are ways to get food and the chefs also said this all started in Janaury they never said that the smoothie and soup thing was going on the whole time they worked for him and pain pills and wreak your stomach it is not something that is going to go on forever if that was the only thing he was dealing with.

[Edited 1/9/17 12:41pm]

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

or he could have exhorted contacts to source them for him. ( That would be people getting them for him. In the police press release they said they were looking at person or persons including underworld figures. They are looking for a person or persons.

Well at this point they are not treating like a suicide. What do you think are the chances they are going to change anything at this point.

Let's just ignore the possible fact ~48% of autopsy reports contain some degree of error. Because erm all experts are experts and experts are infallible, god-like in fact. Especially coroners.

In fact they even host funerals in laurarichardson's world.

[Edited 1/9/17 12:30pm]

Based on low to middle income countries. This is not those cases in any way, form or fashion.

In conclusion, the moving attorneys all have benefited the Estate to some extent. However, not all the time those attorneys submitted to the Court was primarily for the benefit of the Estate. Some benefited particular NEH more than the Estate. Indeed, some of it ended up harming the Estate by increasing legal costs of the Estate and delaying receipt of necessary income for the Estate. Respectfully submitted, Dated: January 6, 2017

Hmm, looks like the Estate isn't going to pay some attorney fees.

laurarichardson said:

Sorry this is off topic, but is there any information on Cory Simmons blood test?

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

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You are the one on the suicide tip not me. I have never side there was a conspiracy to murder him.

You got me confused with someone else. I said someone gave him those pills ( common sense since they did not find a pill lab in the basement of Paisley Park ) They either did it or purpose or by accident but this is a homicide case not a closed sucide case. ( Something you do not seem to understand)

Who is not in touch with reality?

Whaaaaat? A "homicide case"? Really? Are you sure, or what makes you say that??

Sometimes I can't believe this stuff is still being questioned around these parts.


The search warrants and accompanying documents involved in the Prince death investigation will remain sealed until April 17, 2017.

Still a very active investigation

The request filed in Carver County court listed several specific reasons to renew the search warrant seal:

“This is a very active homicide investigation regarding a high profile American celebrity, Prince Rogers Nelson, better known as Prince, who died of an opiate overdose.”

“Both the Carver County Sheriff and the United States Drug Enforcement Agency are actively investigating the circumstances surrounding the death of Prince. There are a number of potential witnesses who have yet to be interviewed. Information obtained as a result of this search warrant is not generally known to these potential witnesses or the public at large. This data is important ‘hold back’ information that cannot be released so as to protect the integrity of pending interviews and investigation. The data collected as part of this active and ongoing death investigation constitutes confidential data as classified by Minn. Stat. 13.82, Sub. 7 (criminal investigative data). In addition, law enforcement continues to seek records, documents and other data from across the United States.”

http://www.fox9.com/news/213321412-story

morningsong said:

Seems he loved gold bars. Had a million bucks worth.

It is a legal newspaper that attorneys, and courts use to give "legal notice" of hearing. It is notice as to the hearing this week. The left side is a certification from the newspaper. It contains general certification language. There are numerous other "legal notices" in this newspaper which includes foreclosure actions which you cannot see because they redacted all the notices next to the Estate Hearing Notice. The foreclosure language is not applicable to P's estate.

nelcp777 said:

Anyone have any insight or thoughts on the avadavit notice in Carver County? Is this just a notice published in the paper for heir claims and financial claims or is for foreclosure?

Just released:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Affidavit-of-Publication_1.pdf

[Edited 1/9/17 14:45pm]

sonshine said:

morningsong said:

Sometimes I can't believe this stuff is still being questioned around these parts.


The search warrants and accompanying documents involved in the Prince death investigation will remain sealed until April 17, 2017.

Still a very active investigation

The request filed in Carver County court listed several specific reasons to renew the search warrant seal:

“This is a very active homicide investigation regarding a high profile American celebrity, Prince Rogers Nelson, better known as Prince, who died of an opiate overdose.”

“Both the Carver County Sheriff and the United States Drug Enforcement Agency are actively investigating the circumstances surrounding the death of Prince. There are a number of potential witnesses who have yet to be interviewed. Information obtained as a result of this search warrant is not generally known to these potential witnesses or the public at large. This data is important ‘hold back’ information that cannot be released so as to protect the integrity of pending interviews and investigation. The data collected as part of this active and ongoing death investigation constitutes confidential data as classified by Minn. Stat. 13.82, Sub. 7 (criminal investigative data). In addition, law enforcement continues to seek records, documents and other data from across the United States.”

http://www.fox9.com/news/213321412-story

DEATH investigation. They don't even have anyone assigned to this case full time. Quit making it out to be more than it realistically is. That's all.

The quote says HOMICIDE investigation. I didn't add it myself, it's in the article. and it's the Carver County Sheriff's that I read who didn't have a full time assignment. If you read even just the part of the article I posted the US DEA (federal) is part of the investigation also. Can you show me anything that says they aren't investigating this? If not, then don't waste my time accusing me of anything. I can read quite well thank you very much, as well as thoroughly (when I want to). It sure the heck isn't a suicide investigation that's being covered up with everybody involved being paid off to keep quiet. Which seems like a few people around here keep spewing with extreme intensity without any evidence to their words as backup. Kind of ticks me off.

For those who care to READ then they might be able to understand where some of us are getting our information.

http://bigstory.ap.org/ar...d-fentanyl


http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2016/08/22/princes-death-from-fentanyl-may-have-been-due-to-counterfeit-generic-drugs/#181eb99f7920

morningsong said:

morningsong said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Let's just ignore the possible fact ~48% of autopsy reports contain some degree of error. Because erm all experts are experts and experts are infallible, god-like in fact. Especially coroners.

In fact they even host funerals in laurarichardson's world.

[Edited 1/9/17 12:30pm]

Based on low to middle income countries. This is not those cases in any way, form or fashion.

Actually, that was the statistic given at a Public Health conference in the UK. It was Scotland's Chief Medical Officer who provided it, and it was related to their own findings / death certification agency. Admittedly, the vast majority of mistakes were very simple errors (spelling mistakes etc) but he went on to say that 10% of all death certificates had to be entirely re-written given the serious nature of the errors found upon revisiting their contents.

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

You're quite the idiot. I was addressing 803's particular point about people in general, how the wealthy don't need to worry about health insurance bc they can pay anything up front. Get a clue.

"He lived very much in the present." You typed this so we know who has a problem. You think you know what his thougts were!!! Did you know he had Gold bars or how much lint he had in his pockets when he died as well.

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Actually YES, Laura. Anyone who noticed the news story about the armored truck leaving Paisley a few months ago, figured out that P had an especially large amount of *something* hidden.

No wonder P was the only one with the combo to his vault.

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sonshine said:

morningsong said:

The quote says HOMICIDE investigation. I didn't add it myself, it's in the article. and it's the Carver County Sheriff's that I read who didn't have a full time assignment. If you read even just the part of the article I posted the US DEA (federal) is part of the investigation also. Can you show me anything that says they aren't investigating this? If not, then don't waste my time accusing me of anything. I can read quite well thank you very much, as well as thoroughly (when I want to). It sure the heck isn't a suicide investigation that's being covered up with everybody involved being paid off to keep quiet. Which seems like a few people around here keep spewing with extreme intensity without any evidence to their words as backup. Kind of ticks me off.

For those who care to READ then they might be able to understand where some of us are getting our information.

http://bigstory.ap.org/ar...d-fentanyl


http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2016/08/22/princes-death-from-fentanyl-may-have-been-due-to-counterfeit-generic-drugs/#181eb99f7920

I still believe using the word homicide is over-stating it. Sure it could lead to some sort of charges but not in the sense that some people here think. It's not going to be any sort of pre-meditated, huge case of corruption with sordid details of how some jealous lover took prince out or some unscrupulous record company conspired to take him out, or some evil two-faced associates did him in. Same as now in the end it's all going to be quite sad and unfortunate and there may even be others involved as clueless enablers perhaps, or stupid drug dealers who don't even know what they are peddling to people. Illegal yes. Sinister conspirators no.

Which might be why on official papers it's labeled "death", but the post does show nobody just pulled the idea of "homicide" out their butts or off some shady site. Personally, I haven't said premeditated anything, I don't know, but homicide doesn't mean premeditated and from what I've read, most people around here add to what they are saying with something along the lines like they don't know if it was intentional/calculated. But fair enough to add what you said to those who over twist the info.

Please note the article I posted stated that warrents and info pertaining to this are sealed until April 17th of this year.

morningsong said:

sonshine said:

morningsong said:

Which might be why on official papers it's labeled "death", but the post does show nobody just pulled the idea of "homicide" out their butts or off some shady site. Personally, I haven't said premeditated anything, I don't know, but homicide doesn't mean premeditated and from what I've read, most people around here add to what they are saying with something along the lines like they don't know if it was intentional/calculated. But fair enough to add what you said to those who over twist the info.

Please note the article I posted stated that warrents and info pertaining to this are sealed until April 17th of this year.

Why are you being so hostile? If you don't believe some of the people in this thread have sensationalized every minute detail surrounding prince's death then good for you. Just because I happen to take a more neutral look at the facts doesn't justify your verbal attack.

Poor you. I'm being so mean to you. Shame on me.

morningsong said: