I thought that the Star Tribune / Manuela divorce issue was done and that we had not heard anything because there was nothing of interest in the divorce docs. It turns out that an "Order-Other" was issued on 12/21/2016. So when do we find out if the divorce docs will be opened or not?

tmo1965 said:

John L. Nelson Jr. and Alfred Jackson live in Kansas City, MO.

I live in Kansas City, I wonder where they live in KC? Wonder how they ended up in KC?

206Michelle said:

1Sasha said:

I originally heard there was a meeting among the siblings, and Tyka was on one side and the others were essentially across the table from her. It has not been a harmonious undertaking since April 21, and it won't be for many years to come. It is all about the money, with the idea of equal shares not exactly making everyone happy.

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The dynamics of the siblings is interesting, to say the least. I wonder how the age differences among the siblings will contributes to the issues involving P's estate. For example, there is a 20-year age difference between Sharon and Tyka, and a 30-year age difference between Sharon and Omarr. (Source: http://www.billboard.com/...-fortune). My guess is that age may play a role in the priorities of the siblings. For example, perhaps older siblings may be more interested in the money while the younger siblings may be more interested in preserving Prince's legacy.

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Another dynamic arises regarding where the siblings live. Omarr, Tyka, and Norrine live in the Minneapolis area. John L. Nelson Jr. and Alfred Jackson live in Kansas City, MO.

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Tyka and Omarr appear to be the most "involved" with matters regarding the estate. They both live in the Minneapolis area, are the 2 youngest siblings, and both live in houses that Prince owned/paid for. A lot of Omarr's involvement seems to relate to his residence.

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Due to having her own music career, my take is that Tyka has the best knowledge of the entertainment industry of all of the siblings. She also appears to have the clearest idea of what Prince's wishes were regarding his legacy. It will be interesting to see what her position is and and what kind of involvement she has regarding material in the vault, and how to go about releasing that material.

My apologies, Prince's brother John's name is John R. Nelson, not John L. Nelson Jr.

PennyPurple said:

Vee0319 said:

PennyPurple said:

John L. Nelson Jr. and Alfred Jackson live in Kansas City, MO.

I live in Kansas City, I wonder where they live in KC? Wonder how they ended up in KC?

Hi PennyPurple, I live in Kansas City also! John's middle initial is R. Not L. I believe his middle name is Roger. I have read that Vivian , John's first wife and mother to John R. , Norrine and Sharon was originally from somewhere in Missouri not far from KC. I also read somewhere, in the first few months after Prince passed that Mattie wanted to make a go of being a jazz singer after her divorce from Alfred so she had little Alfred stay with her parents in Missouri and she met John L in Minnesota. I do wonder if John is well because I have never seen any pictures of him and I don't belong eve he has made any appearances in any of the court hearings.

Hi Vee, Thank you for the info! It's very interesting!

I have noticed that Norrine has power of attorney for John R...she has signed some of the documents for him.

2freaky4church1 said:

thank the family for being nicer about youtube.

The fAMILY REALISES THAT Youtbe is the way Prince is communicating from the Afterworld...

Taking him off there at this point would be Great disservice to HUMANITY !!!!!

Many artists have their own YouTube channels. It would be perfect to have one for Prince.

206Michelle said:

Astasheiks said:

What is you alls opinion on the above question?

I would expect the judge to name the heirs within the next year.

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I don't expect the estate to be closed anytime soon I expect that issues surrounding his estate will be frequent over the next several years. There is always the possibility of the heirs (which appears to be the 6 siblings) having disagreements over what to do with the estate's assets. Even if there are no disagreements or only minor disagreements, there are still many issues to address, such as what material to release from the vault, monetizing the estate, his memoir, and so forth.

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Thanks for the info...

Leopard52 said:

YES!! YouTube channel for Prince! I'd never watch TV again. He also needs his own radio channel!!

That would be cool!

teach49 said:

Leopard52 said:

YES!! YouTube channel for Prince! I'd never watch TV again. He also needs his own radio channel!!

That would be cool!

This is misleading. You all are just talking about a wishlist thing.

morningsong said:

teach49 said:

That would be cool!

This is misleading. You all are just talking about a wishlist thing.

Well, yeah...

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

teach49 said:

morningsong said:

This is misleading. You all are just talking about a wishlist thing.

Well, yeah...

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Had me scouring the thread looking for the Prince YT address.

morningsong said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

morningsong said:

Had me scouring the thread looking for the Prince YT address.

Me too! Well one can hope, I like their positive attitude

Sorry!

I was just agreeing with the dream of it.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Apparently, some of the filings that were sealed are now unsealed.

Phaedra doesnt understand she is no longer the Manager of NPG Music, and not involved in other business entities owned by P. They sent her a letter on May 2, 2016 letting her know that Bremer Trust has taken over, and had exclusive authority over Ps businesses.

Phaedra has been asking for confidential corporate records from Bremer, and they claim she is not entitled to the records because she is not a party to the Estate, and has not filed a claim against the Estate.

Alfred wants Londell as a co-Representative.

So we have two factions in the family.

Maybe 3.

Omarr wants Van but I didnt see in any filing that Tyka wanted a co-Representative.

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--Why do you think Phardra is ignoring Breamer? Another question is why did Breamer terminate her and bring Universal?

Dunno why she initially ignored Bremer.

We dont know what duties Phaedra was performing as Manager of NPG Music.

She may not have been the one collecting royalties, etc. It may have been someone else.

I doubt if Phaedra had the means and/or personnel to do all the duties that Universal is capable of doing both nationally and internationally.

We would have a better idea if the Court unsealed her Petition.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Dunno why she initially ignored Bremer.

We dont know what duties Phaedra was performing as Manager of NPG Music.

She may not have been the one collecting royalties, etc. It may have been someone else.

I doubt if Phaedra had the means and/or personnel to do all the duties that Universal is capable of doing both nationally and internationally.

We would have a better idea if the Court unsealed her Petition.

Well one of the reason he brought in house I believe was to avoid paying a fee out to Universal. I know another law firm was listed on the registration for the LLC. Phardra is not an attorney and I suspect the other law firm was handling the legal aspects of the publishing. At any rate what exactly is Universal doing copyright infringement is running wild.

I agree, copyright infringement is running wild.

But I dont think the Estate wants to use all their resources and money right now filing numerous lawsuits against small time peeps when they have bigger fish to fry.

Astasheiks said:

sonshine said:

Astasheiks said:

Thanks for the info...

As sad as it sounds and as much as I hate to say it most of the siblings prob dont give a rat's,ass about their brother's legacy or the fiture of PP and NPG nusic. They are all elderly already so I can't see any of them being keen on running any kind of ongoing busineas of Prince. They just want their cut. Give them there checks and they will be history. There has never been anything to suggest that he was close to any of his siblings. Too bad they will get all his hard earned money.

Apparently Omar and Tyka travelled with Prince in his last years and Tyka actually did take down notices so I believe he was close to them. Tyka has said she would like to get the music out so we shall see. The older ones could cash out and move on with their lives.

I thought there was comment somewhere that there was at least one sibling who hadn't met all of the others, since there were the mother's kids and the father's kids. So I agree that cashing out would probably be the desired course for some of them.

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The taxes are $2mil? What the heck am I reading? Debits at $40mil?

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Inventory has been filed.

Inventory states the Estate is due $750k from Tidal.

Very interesting.

Prince was the only shareholder in his business entities including NPG Music.

Now Van Jones is going to be Tyka's attorney which means Londell must be staying on.

Also, Roc Nation is seeking a Protective Order in regard to documents they will be giving to the Special Representative.

Its going to take some time to go through all these documents.

Forgive me for sounding dumb here, but is the song inventory the songs they found in the vault? I had to print the list out to check it.

1Sasha said:

Forgive me for sounding dumb here, but is the song inventory the songs they found in the vault? I had to print the list out to check it.

I dont know if they are listing songs they found in The Vault or not.

The Inventory contains a lot of information!

1Sasha said:

Forgive me for sounding dumb here, but is the song inventory the songs they found in the vault? I had to print the list out to check it.

I was wondering the same as you. I was not interested in the financial and personal property in the inventory. I was interested in the Vault. I was hoping to see a more detail list.

To add to your question, why are the WB masters not listed in the inventory if the masters were reverted back to Prince?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Inventory has been filed.

Inventory states the Estate is due $750k from Tidal.

Very interesting.

Prince was the only shareholder in his business entities including NPG Music.

Now Van Jones is going to be Tyka's attorney which means Londell must be staying on.

Also, Roc Nation is seeking a Protective Order in regard to documents they will be giving to the Special Representative.

Its going to take some time to go through all these documents.

I also noted that there were loans from the business side to the Estate (which I understand). If I read the documents correctly, the Estate/Heirs will have to repay those loans from their share/cut.

I am not surprised by ROC Nations request. I got the impression that they may have some documents, in particular the equity share. That does not mean that Prince gave them full authority to release his back catalogue.

The Van Jones is interesting and would like to see how it pans out with Londell.

I briefly went thru them. In all honesty, the inventory was a little intrusive in the back of my mind. Not to mention, it solidified that Prince is gone, even though I have know this.

I was hoping the vault would have been more detailed. Even if it was just a number thing. For example, 100 audio rehearsals, 30 LPs, 1200 songs, 5000 concert videos, 200 music videos. But I do understand the monumental task in completing the list and also to do so in the required time.

A lot of Prince's older businesses were dissolved, and like you mentioned, he was the single shareholder.

Lastly, the WB masters were not listed with the other masters. Does that mean that Prince did not own the masters?