Number23 said:

CherryMoon57 said:

If people don't want to participate, they don't have to, that's cool.

What I will not tolerate is people being negative, rude and aggressive about this campaign. The point of this campaign is to celebrate and honour Prince, not to attack one another. Nor do I want it to become an excuse for rude people to turn up and release their aggressivity towards me or any other members of the org.

The photo insinuation was to make unique realise that perhaps if he wasn't hiding behind his anonymity, he would behave in a more civil manner. The forum's anonymity should not be a tool for bullying.

Furthermore, I am finding the words you used in your post very extreme and quite a disgrace on this forum and I think it puts the great artist it is supposed to represent to shame.

Not really big on irony are you? You seem as pious and lacking in self awareness as the artist you use as a shield to cover up your own inadequecies so please, carry on - at least it's not the tragedy it was when the it came to the calcification and solidification of a genius like Prince Nelson's brain.

Militant said:

OK, since I've met both of you (unique and CherryMoon) I'm probably the mod best positioned to tell you both to cool it Some people will care about the Xmas No.1 and others will not. But taking shots at each other isn't gonna achieve anything.

I totally agree and that was my initial point Who is Number23 though...

CherryMoon57 said:

Guitarhero said:

Who made you the spokesperson for the majority of Prince fans? The choice of songs were chosen by Prince fans. All you bring is negativity to the discussion

Thank you Guitarhero. Let's not worry too much about this person as his post indicates that he has not followed this from the start or didn't bother to read any of the previous posts about the campaign and therefore is speaking unknowingly.

I say 'he' confidently because I happen to know who this person is from back at the 2007 aftershows, where he stood out as a complete fanatic to say the least and if he carries on trying to ruin this positive campaign with his negativity, I will have not choice but to post a photo of him, which I happen to have taken whilst in the aftershow queues so that everyone can see what such a killbuzz really looks like.

well firstly you are wrong. secondly you've jumped to an incorrectly conclusion without even asking if i've read your posts or not

i have, which is why i've replied. now you say i'm being negative, but what i'm pointing out is what you are doing is having a negative affect on the fanbase

let's look at some facts...

1) prince didn't celebrate christmas in the latter years of his life for religious reasons

2) you have 75 followers and 77 likes on twitter

3) you have 228 likes and 110 people talking about "this" on facebook

so although prince didn't celebrate xmas you want to try and get him to number 1 for xmas

now if you add up all your followers and all your likes on social media, plus all the views on this thread, how much does that add up to be? if all those people bought the suggested prince track, it's going to be thousands short of hitting the top 100 singles charts

even if you did pick a more commerecial track like purple rain, it's still not going to get to number 1 at xmas, the most competitive commercial period in the uk charts

so all that's going to happen is this is going to fail hard, but the more people who know about it, the more people will either be upset the goal wasn't reached, or laugh at the failure, so ultimately what this idea is leading to is embarrassment for the fanbase. so rather than me being negative, i'm making a positive effort to end this to avoid people being upset and embarrassed

as for a fanatic, yes i am. fan is short for fanatic. this is a fan(atic) site for the artist. what you are doing is an example of fanatism which is doing something which you would otherwise not do if you were not a fanatic

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fanatic

now if the best you can answer back with is to post a picture of me that you took without my permission nearly 10 years ago, rather than answeringback with facts, then it's a clear sign you are losing the debate. i must be doing something right if you can remember me from so long ago when i have no clue who you are and have no recollection of anything to do with you, or any of your posts before this. and that is one of the reasons the campaign will flop. and calling people negative when they are making a positive and constructive stance to acheiving something isn't going to wash either. even if you did post a picture of me, that's not going to prove anything negative towards myself, it would only make your position look worse

now if you want to be positive about this, follow my lead and do the right thing and quit this to save everyones embarassment so there are no threads here and on social media laughing about the complete and utter failure from prince fans in being able to chart one of his songs in the singles chart for xmas

^ I would have rather kept to militant's approach, but since I am being attacked (again ), and in my defense,

1) You said that I did not consult with people before starting this: this is untrue, I did this in another thread. The process has taken weeks in fact. So I was totally right in my inference that you were speaking unknowingly.

2) I may not have that many followers (yet) but I've only started those accounts a couple of weeks ago. One has to start somewhere, and everyone starts with 1. 228 likes in less than 2 weeks is a big percentage increase... Plus it only takes 1 big follower to kick it all off... And that might still happen.

3) This is not about succeeding or failing, it is the getting together and taking part that counts. Prince or any sensible person would not feel 'embarrassed' if he didn't reach the number 1 place in the end, and that never stopped Prince from making music, giving concerts, or even fans from being fans and appreciating his work. We were all having fun until you turned up and you are the one who is making a big fuss out of this. Also, as with anything in life, you will never know if you don't try... If you are so afraid of 'failing' you don't even live. Life is about taking risks, all the great achievers take risks and yes they do fail, sometimes, nothing wrong with that at all.

4) I didn't take your picture without your permission at all, since you had agreed.

5) The reason why you don't remember me is probably because of you are so self-centered. And there is nothing unique about it.

As for "Christmas"... Well that's what the end of year charts has always been called and until someone changes its name, that what I will keep on calling it too.

Here, have one of these

[Edited 11/12/16 5:35am]

unique said:

CherryMoon57 said:

Thank you Guitarhero. Let's not worry too much about this person as his post indicates that he has not followed this from the start or didn't bother to read any of the previous posts about the campaign and therefore is speaking unknowingly.

I say 'he' confidently because I happen to know who this person is from back at the 2007 aftershows, where he stood out as a complete fanatic to say the least and if he carries on trying to ruin this positive campaign with his negativity, I will have not choice but to post a photo of him, which I happen to have taken whilst in the aftershow queues so that everyone can see what such a killbuzz really looks like.

well firstly you are wrong. secondly you've jumped to an incorrectly conclusion without even asking if i've read your posts or not

i have, which is why i've replied. now you say i'm being negative, but what i'm pointing out is what you are doing is having a negative affect on the fanbase

let's look at some facts...

1) prince didn't celebrate christmas in the latter years of his life for religious reasons

2) you have 75 followers and 77 likes on twitter

3) you have 228 likes and 110 people talking about "this" on facebook

so although prince didn't celebrate xmas you want to try and get him to number 1 for xmas

now if you add up all your followers and all your likes on social media, plus all the views on this thread, how much does that add up to be? if all those people bought the suggested prince track, it's going to be thousands short of hitting the top 100 singles charts

even if you did pick a more commerecial track like purple rain, it's still not going to get to number 1 at xmas, the most competitive commercial period in the uk charts

so all that's going to happen is this is going to fail hard, but the more people who know about it, the more people will either be upset the goal wasn't reached, or laugh at the failure, so ultimately what this idea is leading to is embarrassment for the fanbase. so rather than me being negative, i'm making a positive effort to end this to avoid people being upset and embarrassed

as for a fanatic, yes i am. fan is short for fanatic. this is a fan(atic) site for the artist. what you are doing is an example of fanatism which is doing something which you would otherwise not do if you were not a fanatic

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fanatic

now if the best you can answer back with is to post a picture of me that you took without my permission nearly 10 years ago, rather than answeringback with facts, then it's a clear sign you are losing the debate. i must be doing something right if you can remember me from so long ago when i have no clue who you are and have no recollection of anything to do with you, or any of your posts before this. and that is one of the reasons the campaign will flop. and calling people negative when they are making a positive and constructive stance to acheiving something isn't going to wash either. even if you did post a picture of me, that's not going to prove anything negative towards myself, it would only make your position look worse

now if you want to be positive about this, follow my lead and do the right thing and quit this to save everyones embarassment so there are no threads here and on social media laughing about the complete and utter failure from prince fans in being able to chart one of his songs in the singles chart for xmas

Again unique who made you the spokesperson for all Prince fans? Your arrogance blinds you. You don't like this idea and that's cool but don't speak for everybody. Guess what? your the only one embarrassing themselves here.

[Edited 11/12/16 5:59am]

Guitarhero said:

unique said:

well firstly you are wrong. secondly you've jumped to an incorrectly conclusion without even asking if i've read your posts or not

i have, which is why i've replied. now you say i'm being negative, but what i'm pointing out is what you are doing is having a negative affect on the fanbase

let's look at some facts...

1) prince didn't celebrate christmas in the latter years of his life for religious reasons

2) you have 75 followers and 77 likes on twitter

3) you have 228 likes and 110 people talking about "this" on facebook

so although prince didn't celebrate xmas you want to try and get him to number 1 for xmas

now if you add up all your followers and all your likes on social media, plus all the views on this thread, how much does that add up to be? if all those people bought the suggested prince track, it's going to be thousands short of hitting the top 100 singles charts

even if you did pick a more commerecial track like purple rain, it's still not going to get to number 1 at xmas, the most competitive commercial period in the uk charts

so all that's going to happen is this is going to fail hard, but the more people who know about it, the more people will either be upset the goal wasn't reached, or laugh at the failure, so ultimately what this idea is leading to is embarrassment for the fanbase. so rather than me being negative, i'm making a positive effort to end this to avoid people being upset and embarrassed

as for a fanatic, yes i am. fan is short for fanatic. this is a fan(atic) site for the artist. what you are doing is an example of fanatism which is doing something which you would otherwise not do if you were not a fanatic

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fanatic

now if the best you can answer back with is to post a picture of me that you took without my permission nearly 10 years ago, rather than answeringback with facts, then it's a clear sign you are losing the debate. i must be doing something right if you can remember me from so long ago when i have no clue who you are and have no recollection of anything to do with you, or any of your posts before this. and that is one of the reasons the campaign will flop. and calling people negative when they are making a positive and constructive stance to acheiving something isn't going to wash either. even if you did post a picture of me, that's not going to prove anything negative towards myself, it would only make your position look worse

now if you want to be positive about this, follow my lead and do the right thing and quit this to save everyones embarassment so there are no threads here and on social media laughing about the complete and utter failure from prince fans in being able to chart one of his songs in the singles chart for xmas

Again unique who made you the spokesperson for all Prince fans? Your arrogance blinds you. You don't like this idea and that's cool but don't speak for everybody. Guess what? your the only one embarrassing themselves here.

[Edited 11/12/16 5:59am]

the fact you need to repeat yourself to gain a response makes you come across as another attention seeker.

you are the one who mentioned the word "spokesperson", not me. so why is it you use that term?

as for the rest, it's merely your opinion, and not a fact. don't you have any facts to respond with?

CherryMoon57 said:

^ I would have rather kept to militant's approach, but since I am being attacked (again ), and in my defense,

1) You said that I did not consult with people before starting this: this is untrue, I did this in another thread. The process has taken weeks in fact. So I was totally right in my inference that you were speaking unknowingly.

2) I may not have that many followers (yet) but I've only started those accounts a couple of weeks ago. One has to start somewhere, and everyone starts with 1. 228 likes in less than 2 weeks is a big percentage increase... Plus it only takes 1 big follower to kick it all off... And that might still happen.

3) This is not about succeeding or failing, it is the getting together and taking part that counts. Prince or any sensible person would not feel 'embarrassed' if he didn't reach the number 1 place in the end, and that never stopped Prince from making music, giving concerts, or even fans from being fans and appreciating his work. We were all having fun until you turned up and you are the one who is making a big fuss out of this. Also, as with anything in life, you will never know if you don't try... If you are so afraid of 'failing' you don't even live. Life is about taking risks, all the great achievers take risks and yes they do fail, sometimes, nothing wrong with that at all.

4) I didn't take your picture without your permission at all, since you had agreed.

5) The reason why you don't remember me is probably because of you are so self-centered. And there is nothing unique about it.

As for "Christmas"... Well that's what the end of year charts has always been called and until someone changes its name, that what I will keep on calling it too.

Here, have one of these

[Edited 11/12/16 5:35am]

firstly, i'm not attacking you. so any ideas you have of this are simply in your head. secondly there's never been any dispute over what the xmas charts have been called, so that appears to be another issue that remains solely in your own head

then to answer the rest

1) if you use the search facility on your browser you will see that you are the first person to use the word "consult" on this thread. i didn't say what you have said i have said. again this is something in your own head and you are misquoting me

2) you finallly give the first sign of acknowledging what i've been saying all along. you don't have sufficient support and therefore you aren't going to be successful in getting a number 1 single in the most commercially competitive time of the year, with big corporations seeking to acheive that with large marketing budgets. as of yesterday when i last looked, i noticed that whilst you said fans had choosen the tracks to use, there were only actuallly something like 44 votes for the track to use, from 177 followers on twitter. to put this into perspective, facebook has over a billion people across the world as members

3) prince didn't celebrate christmas for long standing religious reasons. don't you think it's disrepectul to launch such a campain to do something on a day he openly spoke out against? as for "all having fun", you can clearly see you have resulted in upsetting yourself and other members on this site, including a moderator who has had to step in to take action. you clearly appear to have been upset yourself as you have in turn made threats that i understand would have been a criminal offence in the uk under new laws, had you carried them out. some of the replies you have made, with insulting comments would only be fun if you were intending on baiting and trolling online

4) the whole picture situation is very alarming and bizzarre. i presume you can't produce any proof it was taken with my permission, however the fact you can remember i was in a picture you took about 10 years ago and you can find this to threaten to post online, sounds exceptionally creepy and strange, especially from someone i don't recall to ever having met, nor even recognise the username as a regular poster on this site i've been on almost every single day for the past 20 years or so since it starter

5) as someone else pointed out, you really don't appear to understand irony. if i was self centred as you put it, i wouldn't bother wasting my time in replying to you on this thread, would i? try thinking about things before you post. one of the reasons you aren't having any luck with this campain is down to your communication. you can't expect people to follow you if you are going to throw insults at them. the fact that you think someone would remember you after allegedly meeting about 10 years ago during 2 months of concert going with approximately 20,000 people in the venue every night sounds like you have an exceptionally high and overblown opinion of yourself, which would go someway towards explaining why you are undertaking such an attention seeking activity, and why you have so little success

now let's get to the point. it must be clear now that you aren't going to get the success you want. there is a "new" prince album out for fans to buy, so why not scrap your nonsense campaing and support fans buying something that actually does have a change to chart instead of a small number of people wasting money buying a track they already have, for the money to profit the likes of warners, apple and other businesses, and save face for yourself and other fans so they aren't embarrassed by the failure of him charting the singles chart in a period he didn't believe in for religious reasons

unique said:

Guitarhero said:

Again unique who made you the spokesperson for all Prince fans? Your arrogance blinds you. You don't like this idea and that's cool but don't speak for everybody. Guess what? your the only one embarrassing themselves here.

[Edited 11/12/16 5:59am]

the fact you need to repeat yourself to gain a response makes you come across as another attention seeker.

you are the one who mentioned the word "spokesperson", not me. so why is it you use that term?

as for the rest, it's merely your opinion, and not a fact. don't you have any facts to respond with?

The only person repeating themselves is you. Your the only attention seeker on this thread and am done with arrogant people. I use the term spokesperson because you think you talk for all Prince fans and you don't, all i see from your posts is mostly belittling the OP. Yes Prince did not celebrate christmas in his later years but who is to say he would not of been happy to have a number one or a top ten or a top 40 at anytime be it christmas or not.

The irony of the bolded part.

[Edited 11/13/16 4:42am]

unique said:

CherryMoon57 said:

^ I would have rather kept to militant's approach, but since I am being attacked (again ), and in my defense,

1) You said that I did not consult with people before starting this: this is untrue, I did this in another thread. The process has taken weeks in fact. So I was totally right in my inference that you were speaking unknowingly.

2) I may not have that many followers (yet) but I've only started those accounts a couple of weeks ago. One has to start somewhere, and everyone starts with 1. 228 likes in less than 2 weeks is a big percentage increase... Plus it only takes 1 big follower to kick it all off... And that might still happen.

3) This is not about succeeding or failing, it is the getting together and taking part that counts. Prince or any sensible person would not feel 'embarrassed' if he didn't reach the number 1 place in the end, and that never stopped Prince from making music, giving concerts, or even fans from being fans and appreciating his work. We were all having fun until you turned up and you are the one who is making a big fuss out of this. Also, as with anything in life, you will never know if you don't try... If you are so afraid of 'failing' you don't even live. Life is about taking risks, all the great achievers take risks and yes they do fail, sometimes, nothing wrong with that at all.

4) I didn't take your picture without your permission at all, since you had agreed.

5) The reason why you don't remember me is probably because of you are so self-centered. And there is nothing unique about it.

As for "Christmas"... Well that's what the end of year charts has always been called and until someone changes its name, that what I will keep on calling it too.

Here, have one of these

[Edited 11/12/16 5:35am]

firstly, i'm not attacking you. so any ideas you have of this are simply in your head. secondly there's never been any dispute over what the xmas charts have been called, so that appears to be another issue that remains solely in your own head

then to answer the rest

1) if you use the search facility on your browser you will see that you are the first person to use the word "consult" on this thread. i didn't say what you have said i have said. again this is something in your own head and you are misquoting me

2) you finallly give the first sign of acknowledging what i've been saying all along. you don't have sufficient support and therefore you aren't going to be successful in getting a number 1 single in the most commercially competitive time of the year, with big corporations seeking to acheive that with large marketing budgets. as of yesterday when i last looked, i noticed that whilst you said fans had choosen the tracks to use, there were only actuallly something like 44 votes for the track to use, from 177 followers on twitter. to put this into perspective, facebook has over a billion people across the world as members

3) prince didn't celebrate christmas for long standing religious reasons. don't you think it's disrepectul to launch such a campain to do something on a day he openly spoke out against? as for "all having fun", you can clearly see you have resulted in upsetting yourself and other members on this site, including a moderator who has had to step in to take action. you clearly appear to have been upset yourself as you have in turn made threats that i understand would have been a criminal offence in the uk under new laws, had you carried them out. some of the replies you have made, with insulting comments would only be fun if you were intending on baiting and trolling online

4) the whole picture situation is very alarming and bizzarre. i presume you can't produce any proof it was taken with my permission, however the fact you can remember i was in a picture you took about 10 years ago and you can find this to threaten to post online, sounds exceptionally creepy and strange, especially from someone i don't recall to ever having met, nor even recognise the username as a regular poster on this site i've been on almost every single day for the past 20 years or so since it starter

5) as someone else pointed out, you really don't appear to understand irony. if i was self centred as you put it, i wouldn't bother wasting my time in replying to you on this thread, would i? try thinking about things before you post. one of the reasons you aren't having any luck with this campain is down to your communication. you can't expect people to follow you if you are going to throw insults at them. the fact that you think someone would remember you after allegedly meeting about 10 years ago during 2 months of concert going with approximately 20,000 people in the venue every night sounds like you have an exceptionally high and overblown opinion of yourself, which would go someway towards explaining why you are undertaking such an attention seeking activity, and why you have so little success

now let's get to the point. it must be clear now that you aren't going to get the success you want. there is a "new" prince album out for fans to buy, so why not scrap your nonsense campaing and support fans buying something that actually does have a change to chart instead of a small number of people wasting money buying a track they already have, for the money to profit the likes of warners, apple and other businesses, and save face for yourself and other fans so they aren't embarrassed by the failure of him charting the singles chart in a period he didn't believe in for religious reasons

You like facts, I will give you facts:

1) You didn't use the word consult, however you did say that I hadn't considered other people before proceeding. Regardless of the term used, the fact is that I have taken others into account, and asked for their opinion about not only the campaign, but also the songs selection (hence the long initial thread and the polls) and that from the very start.

2) With still about month to go, the campaign could turn either way depending on how many more participants will join and follow. No one at the moment is in measure to predict what the outcome of this campaign will be. The 44 poll votes (now 51) are only those from the poll I have created 2 days ago on Twitter, and these will be added to the hundreds of those already obtained from the initial SurveyPlanet poll started a couple of weeks ago. As for numbers, the 235 Facebook page likes and 79 followers on Twitter do not reflect the thousands of views and page clicks that the page report is giving me on a daily basis. This is a very positive indication that the campaign has rapidly triggered some interest and is picking up some traction.

3) The purpose of this campaign is to end the year on a positive note by celebrating and honouring Prince because 2016 was the year that he passed. It has nothing to do with Christmas and everything to do with Prince and some fans wanting 2016 to be his year.

4) As for the picture I took of you. Well, I had already taken many pictures of everything at the O2 that evening, including the deco and decided to memorise the summer by taking photos of the fans who were waiting in the aftershow queues. I didn't willingly take that photo because it was you, you just happened to be there (I knew who you were because I had spoken to you before and you had told me), I asked the group of people if I could take that photo and everyone agreed. Since all my 2007 photos are still in my computer, I still have those too, nothing "creepy" about it. It was your harsh attitude that propelled me to use this as an "ironic" threat earlier in this conversation, to make you and Number23 (whoever that is) appreciate that you may have not spoken so critically about me and the campaign should you not be hiding behind your anonymities. Ironically, you both still decided that I wasn't big on irony! Your perception could have not deceived you more, lol.

5) More facts now: the IndigO2 - where the aforementioned aftershows took place - never contained 20,000 people as you stated, it actually has a maximum capacity of 2,350 (and that's if you really crammed everyone in) but at the 2007 Prince shows, it was more like 800 at most. And the Prince.org fans hanging out with each other a lot, it was very easy to remember some, in particular those whose reputation preceeded them. It's a shame you don't remember me though, perhaps if you had looked on stage you would have noticed me dancing with Prince!

About your last point:

The campaign is aiming at the single charts, for two simple reasons. First, it will only require people to download one pre-agreed track, which involves a small charge. As far as I know, many people will choose not to purchase the (more expensive) Prince4Ever album for the reason that it contains many tracks that a lot of us already have. A campaign requesting people to purchase a more expensive album is less likely to attract those numbers required. Besides, people can still buy that album if they choose to and the campaign will not stop the album from entering the album charts. Secondly, the singles chart usually has more impact on the wider audiences and hopefully the campaign will increase their exposure to his music. If anything, the campaign is still likely to attract some attention and encourage a lot of us to unite, which is in itself a very positive outcome.


Now will you please try and not detract all the energy required to run this campaign with your unecessary comments and leave the participants and organisers to proceed with it. If you are not happy about this campaign and want to stop it, please feel free to create your own thread and run your own anti-campaign.

CherryMoon57 said:

unique said:

firstly, i'm not attacking you. so any ideas you have of this are simply in your head. secondly there's never been any dispute over what the xmas charts have been called, so that appears to be another issue that remains solely in your own head

then to answer the rest

1) if you use the search facility on your browser you will see that you are the first person to use the word "consult" on this thread. i didn't say what you have said i have said. again this is something in your own head and you are misquoting me

2) you finallly give the first sign of acknowledging what i've been saying all along. you don't have sufficient support and therefore you aren't going to be successful in getting a number 1 single in the most commercially competitive time of the year, with big corporations seeking to acheive that with large marketing budgets. as of yesterday when i last looked, i noticed that whilst you said fans had choosen the tracks to use, there were only actuallly something like 44 votes for the track to use, from 177 followers on twitter. to put this into perspective, facebook has over a billion people across the world as members

3) prince didn't celebrate christmas for long standing religious reasons. don't you think it's disrepectul to launch such a campain to do something on a day he openly spoke out against? as for "all having fun", you can clearly see you have resulted in upsetting yourself and other members on this site, including a moderator who has had to step in to take action. you clearly appear to have been upset yourself as you have in turn made threats that i understand would have been a criminal offence in the uk under new laws, had you carried them out. some of the replies you have made, with insulting comments would only be fun if you were intending on baiting and trolling online

4) the whole picture situation is very alarming and bizzarre. i presume you can't produce any proof it was taken with my permission, however the fact you can remember i was in a picture you took about 10 years ago and you can find this to threaten to post online, sounds exceptionally creepy and strange, especially from someone i don't recall to ever having met, nor even recognise the username as a regular poster on this site i've been on almost every single day for the past 20 years or so since it starter

5) as someone else pointed out, you really don't appear to understand irony. if i was self centred as you put it, i wouldn't bother wasting my time in replying to you on this thread, would i? try thinking about things before you post. one of the reasons you aren't having any luck with this campain is down to your communication. you can't expect people to follow you if you are going to throw insults at them. the fact that you think someone would remember you after allegedly meeting about 10 years ago during 2 months of concert going with approximately 20,000 people in the venue every night sounds like you have an exceptionally high and overblown opinion of yourself, which would go someway towards explaining why you are undertaking such an attention seeking activity, and why you have so little success

now let's get to the point. it must be clear now that you aren't going to get the success you want. there is a "new" prince album out for fans to buy, so why not scrap your nonsense campaing and support fans buying something that actually does have a change to chart instead of a small number of people wasting money buying a track they already have, for the money to profit the likes of warners, apple and other businesses, and save face for yourself and other fans so they aren't embarrassed by the failure of him charting the singles chart in a period he didn't believe in for religious reasons

You like facts, I will give you facts:

1) You didn't use the word consult, however you did say that I hadn't considered other people before proceeding. Regardless of the term used, the fact is that I have taken others into account, and asked for their opinion about not only the campaign, but also the songs selection (hence the long initial thread and the polls) and that from the very start.

2) With still about month to go, the campaign could turn either way depending on how many more participants will join and follow. No one at the moment is in measure to predict what the outcome of this campaign will be. The 44 poll votes (now 51) are only those from the poll I have created 2 days ago on Twitter, and these will be added to the hundreds of those already obtained from the initial SurveyPlanet poll started a couple of weeks ago. As for numbers, the 235 Facebook page likes and 79 followers on Twitter do not reflect the thousands of views and page clicks that the page report is giving me on a daily basis. This is a very positive indication that the campaign has rapidly triggered some interest and is picking up some traction.

3) The purpose of this campaign is to end the year on a positive note by celebrating and honouring Prince because 2016 was the year that he passed. It has nothing to do with Christmas and everything to do with Prince and some fans wanting 2016 to be his year.

4) As for the picture I took of you. Well, I had already taken many pictures of everything at the O2 that evening, including the deco and decided to memorise the summer by taking photos of the fans who were waiting in the aftershow queues. I didn't willingly take that photo because it was you, you just happened to be there (I knew who you were because I had spoken to you before and you had told me), I asked the group of people if I could take that photo and everyone agreed. Since all my 2007 photos are still in my computer, I still have those too, nothing "creepy" about it. It was your harsh attitude that propelled me to use this as an "ironic" threat earlier in this conversation, to make you and Number23 (whoever that is) appreciate that you may have not spoken so critically about me and the campaign should you not be hiding behind your anonymities. Ironically, you both still decided that I wasn't big on irony! Your perception could have not deceived you more, lol.

5) More facts now: the IndigO2 - where the aforementioned aftershows took place - never contained 20,000 people as you stated, it actually has a maximum capacity of 2,350 (and that's if you really crammed everyone in) but at the 2007 Prince shows, it was more like 800 at most. And the Prince.org fans hanging out with each other a lot, it was very easy to remember some, in particular those whose reputation preceeded them. It's a shame you don't remember me though, perhaps if you had looked on stage you would have noticed me dancing with Prince!

About your last point:

The campaign is aiming at the single charts, for two simple reasons. First, it will only require people to download one pre-agreed track, which involves a small charge. As far as I know, many people will choose not to purchase the (more expensive) Prince4Ever album for the reason that it contains many tracks that a lot of us already have. A campaign requesting people to purchase a more expensive album is less likely to attract those numbers required. Besides, people can still buy that album if they choose to and the campaign will not stop the album from entering the album charts. Secondly, the singles chart usually has more impact on the wider audiences and hopefully the campaign will increase their exposure to his music. If anything, the campaign is still likely to attract some attention and encourage a lot of us to unite, which is in itself a very positive outcome.


Now will you please try and not detract all the energy required to run this campaign with your unecessary comments and leave the participants and organisers to proceed with it. If you are not happy about this campaign and want to stop it, please feel free to create your own thread and run your own anti-campaign.

so to sum up...

1) you misquoted me and admit it

2) you admit the lack of participation in your attempts

3) you say it has nothing to do with christmas, but specifically choose christmas, a day he didn't celebrate for religious reasons. sounds like a clear contradiction there. one of the tracks shortlisted was one in particular to which he changed lyrics and gave a speach about the main theme when he last played it live, so not a particularly good choice considering his religion

4) you are now suggesting that contrary to what you said before, i didn't give persmission for the photo, so more backtracking along with miquoting me as per point 1

5) the indigo was inside a building that held approximately 20,000 per night as it was inside the same building as the o2. most people, including myself, going to aftershows went to the main show so would see approximately 20,000 people per night. even if someone was just waiting to go to the aftershow they would see literally thousands more people passing by at the end of the main show. your "facts" are very much lacking in real detail

6) as the "new" album contains "new" material, i'm pretty sure more fans will buy that than rebuy a single on a strength of a twitter account with less than 200 followers. if you have any sense of reasoning you would know i'm right on this one too.

7) if you start a thread discussing something, you need to take the rough with the smooth. i'm actively and positively trying to make you see sense for the good of yourself and the rest of the fanbase to save embarassment

unique said:

7) if you start a thread discussing something, you need to take the rough with the smooth. i'm actively and positively trying to make you see sense for the good of yourself and the rest of the fanbase to save embarassment

Thank you for your concern - but we're not embarrassed; we're just having fun - you might want to try it sometime..?

unique said:

CherryMoon57 said:

You like facts, I will give you facts:

1) You didn't use the word consult, however you did say that I hadn't considered other people before proceeding. Regardless of the term used, the fact is that I have taken others into account, and asked for their opinion about not only the campaign, but also the songs selection (hence the long initial thread and the polls) and that from the very start.

2) With still about month to go, the campaign could turn either way depending on how many more participants will join and follow. No one at the moment is in measure to predict what the outcome of this campaign will be. The 44 poll votes (now 51) are only those from the poll I have created 2 days ago on Twitter, and these will be added to the hundreds of those already obtained from the initial SurveyPlanet poll started a couple of weeks ago. As for numbers, the 235 Facebook page likes and 79 followers on Twitter do not reflect the thousands of views and page clicks that the page report is giving me on a daily basis. This is a very positive indication that the campaign has rapidly triggered some interest and is picking up some traction.

3) The purpose of this campaign is to end the year on a positive note by celebrating and honouring Prince because 2016 was the year that he passed. It has nothing to do with Christmas and everything to do with Prince and some fans wanting 2016 to be his year.

4) As for the picture I took of you. Well, I had already taken many pictures of everything at the O2 that evening, including the deco and decided to memorise the summer by taking photos of the fans who were waiting in the aftershow queues. I didn't willingly take that photo because it was you, you just happened to be there (I knew who you were because I had spoken to you before and you had told me), I asked the group of people if I could take that photo and everyone agreed. Since all my 2007 photos are still in my computer, I still have those too, nothing "creepy" about it. It was your harsh attitude that propelled me to use this as an "ironic" threat earlier in this conversation, to make you and Number23 (whoever that is) appreciate that you may have not spoken so critically about me and the campaign should you not be hiding behind your anonymities. Ironically, you both still decided that I wasn't big on irony! Your perception could have not deceived you more, lol.

5) More facts now: the IndigO2 - where the aforementioned aftershows took place - never contained 20,000 people as you stated, it actually has a maximum capacity of 2,350 (and that's if you really crammed everyone in) but at the 2007 Prince shows, it was more like 800 at most. And the Prince.org fans hanging out with each other a lot, it was very easy to remember some, in particular those whose reputation preceeded them. It's a shame you don't remember me though, perhaps if you had looked on stage you would have noticed me dancing with Prince!

About your last point:

The campaign is aiming at the single charts, for two simple reasons. First, it will only require people to download one pre-agreed track, which involves a small charge. As far as I know, many people will choose not to purchase the (more expensive) Prince4Ever album for the reason that it contains many tracks that a lot of us already have. A campaign requesting people to purchase a more expensive album is less likely to attract those numbers required. Besides, people can still buy that album if they choose to and the campaign will not stop the album from entering the album charts. Secondly, the singles chart usually has more impact on the wider audiences and hopefully the campaign will increase their exposure to his music. If anything, the campaign is still likely to attract some attention and encourage a lot of us to unite, which is in itself a very positive outcome.


Now will you please try and not detract all the energy required to run this campaign with your unecessary comments and leave the participants and organisers to proceed with it. If you are not happy about this campaign and want to stop it, please feel free to create your own thread and run your own anti-campaign.

so to sum up...

1) you misquoted me and admit it

2) you admit the lack of participation in your attempts

3) you say it has nothing to do with christmas, but specifically choose christmas, a day he didn't celebrate for religious reasons. sounds like a clear contradiction there. one of the tracks shortlisted was one in particular to which he changed lyrics and gave a speach about the main theme when he last played it live, so not a particularly good choice considering his religion

4) you are now suggesting that contrary to what you said before, i didn't give persmission for the photo, so more backtracking along with miquoting me as per point 1

5) the indigo was inside a building that held approximately 20,000 per night as it was inside the same building as the o2. most people, including myself, going to aftershows went to the main show so would see approximately 20,000 people per night. even if someone was just waiting to go to the aftershow they would see literally thousands more people passing by at the end of the main show. your "facts" are very much lacking in real detail

6) as the "new" album contains "new" material, i'm pretty sure more fans will buy that than rebuy a single on a strength of a twitter account with less than 200 followers. if you have any sense of reasoning you would know i'm right on this one too.

7) if you start a thread discussing something, you need to take the rough with the smooth. i'm actively and positively trying to make you see sense for the good of yourself and the rest of the fanbase to save embarassment

Just to make this clear again, you were part of the small group of people who had agreed to be photographed, and you both posed and smiled towards me as I took the photo (perhaps it will help if I send it to you, as you don't seem convinced despite my clear reponses), which constitutes evidence that the photo was NOT taken without your permission, as you are so stubbornly keen to maintain.

Moving on...

Throughout this discussion, you have desperately tried to shame this campaign whilst appearing so adamant to save me and others from some form of "embarrassment", could this be subconsciously relating to something close to you personally?

[Edited 11/14/16 4:51am]

Back to the topic...


I just wanted to thank all of those who have consistently supported this campaign so far. Looking at our goal regardless of the adversity is one positive strenth that has been demonstrated by those of us willing to keep going and I am deeply grateful for it. Let's remember that one can only try and give it our best shot. We have absolutely nothing to lose and all to gain if we all keep a positive team spirit.

This campaign has also been so far a wonderful opportunity to meet some exceptional people who have stood out with their love, understanding and willingness to contribute in their own way. In particular Dibblekins and Spayne but also militant who helped promoting the campaign from the very beginning, mikeyaddict and Guitarhero for their kind and moral support... as well as many of the keen followers and re-tweeters. Thank you all!

There is another day left for y'all to vote for the song you wish to be the focus of this campaign. Please feel free to use either polls:

- Survey Planet https://surveyplanet.com/...6263f36e0a
- Twitter https://surveyplanet.com/...6263f36e0a

The final results will be revealed on Wednesday. Until then, thank you to keep sharing, and re-tweeting all you can.

You know my plan re getting people to participate...

Voting on songs they may not have heard is tricky - but, certainly, once the song choice is finalised, I shall be asking for Princely gifts of downloads, lmao!

If he doesn't get to number one - oh well, such is life...I'm not embarrassed!

Dibblekins said:

You know my plan re getting people to participate...

Voting on songs they may not have heard is tricky - but, certainly, once the song choice is finalised, I shall be asking for Princely gifts of downloads, lmao!

If he doesn't get to number one - oh well, such is life...I'm not embarrassed!

Thanks ever so much again for your support! There sure is nothing to be embarrassed about. I'm only afraid of bats anyway...

Very nice idea. An online campaign once made Rage Against the Machine beat Simon Cowell´s protegee once. So I will help

GustavoRibas said:

Very nice idea. An online campaign once made Rage Against the Machine beat Simon Cowell´s protegee once. So I will help

Thanks!

Dibblekins said:

You know my plan re getting people to participate...

Voting on songs they may not have heard is tricky - but, certainly, once the song choice is finalised, I shall be asking for Princely gifts of downloads, lmao!

If he doesn't get to number one - oh well, such is life...I'm not embarrassed!

I agree here completely with Dibblekins. Once the final song has been chosen, on the whole, by Prince fans, then that's the time to start properly promoting that song.

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Much easier to get a casual Prince-fan, non-Prince fan, to listen and then purchase when it's one song only.

.

If Prince doesn't get a Top 100 hit, Top 75, Top 40, Top 10... then so be it, at least we've tried and had fun in the process and at the very least there's probably been some new listeners to the 3 songs that would never have previously heard them (and potentially investigating the albums they come from). If that turns into just 1 new Prince fan, then that's brilliant too.

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I for one am happy to have been kept informed and consulted throughout this process which started 19 October on this forum, then converted to Facebook and Twitter. And to be honest, if I thought it was pointless or just a load of rubbish, I would have just ignored the thread and moved on.

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Thanks, CherryMoon57 for everything done so far. Keep it up.

Positivity breeds positivity.

Instead of hate, celebrate.

Spayne said:

Dibblekins said:

You know my plan re getting people to participate...

Voting on songs they may not have heard is tricky - but, certainly, once the song choice is finalised, I shall be asking for Princely gifts of downloads, lmao!

If he doesn't get to number one - oh well, such is life...I'm not embarrassed!

I agree here completely with Dibblekins. Once the final song has been chosen, on the whole, by Prince fans, then that's the time to start properly promoting that song.

.

Much easier to get a casual Prince-fan, non-Prince fan, to listen and then purchase when it's one song only.

.

If Prince doesn't get a Top 100 hit, Top 75, Top 40, Top 10... then so be it, at least we've tried and had fun in the process and at the very least there's probably been some new listeners to the 3 songs that would never have previously heard them (and potentially investigating the albums they come from). If that turns into just 1 new Prince fan, then that's brilliant too.

.

I for one am happy to have been kept informed and consulted throughout this process which started 19 October on this forum, then converted to Facebook and Twitter. And to be honest, if I thought it was pointless or just a load of rubbish, I would have just ignored the thread and moved on.

.

Thanks, CherryMoon57 for everything done so far. Keep it up.

Positivity breeds positivity.

Instead of hate, celebrate.

Hear, hear!
.
I've already had a couple of friends say, 'Wow - I / we had no idea he had created all of this music - and it's GOOD - I am going to buy such and such'.
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Prince's tactics meant that so much of his stuff has gone unheard, and it's a crying shame - so, yes, even if he doesn't make it into the charts, from little acorns great oak trees grow...If those friends share their new-found appreciation with one other person and so on and so forth, then there will be more sharing of the love. And THAT has to be a GOOD thing because there isn't enough love in this world. Fact!
.

Dibblekins said:

Spayne said:

I agree here completely with Dibblekins. Once the final song has been chosen, on the whole, by Prince fans, then that's the time to start properly promoting that song.

.

Much easier to get a casual Prince-fan, non-Prince fan, to listen and then purchase when it's one song only.

.

If Prince doesn't get a Top 100 hit, Top 75, Top 40, Top 10... then so be it, at least we've tried and had fun in the process and at the very least there's probably been some new listeners to the 3 songs that would never have previously heard them (and potentially investigating the albums they come from). If that turns into just 1 new Prince fan, then that's brilliant too.

.

I for one am happy to have been kept informed and consulted throughout this process which started 19 October on this forum, then converted to Facebook and Twitter. And to be honest, if I thought it was pointless or just a load of rubbish, I would have just ignored the thread and moved on.

.

Thanks, CherryMoon57 for everything done so far. Keep it up.

Positivity breeds positivity.

Instead of hate, celebrate.

Hear, hear!
.
I've already had a couple of friends say, 'Wow - I / we had no idea he had created all of this music - and it's GOOD - I am going to buy such and such'.
.
Prince's tactics meant that so much of his stuff has gone unheard, and it's a crying shame - so, yes, even if he doesn't make it into the charts, from little acorns great oak trees grow...If those friends share their new-found appreciation with one other person and so on and so forth, then there will be more sharing of the love. And THAT has to be a GOOD thing because there isn't enough love in this world. Fact!
.

(to both of you!) Though I'm sure there are enough like-minded Prince fans out there to lead the way...!

[Edited 11/14/16 7:04am]

I am pleased to announce that the song that we are going to campaign for is..... THE CROSS!!!!

Here are the results of the polls combined:

42.95% The Cross
31.6% Sometimes It Snows In April
25.45% Still Would Stand All Time

💜 BIG thank you everyone for all your votes!

Shall we begin?

#prince4christmas #prince4xmas

I have just noticed that Andre Cymone is now one of our followers on Twitter...

I think this is a nice idea. I would buy it and support the effort if I believed it had a chance in hell. Unfortunately, unless it gains some major traction, I don't see it taking off.

MattyJam said:

I think this is a nice idea. I would buy it and support the effort if I believed it had a chance in hell. Unfortunately, unless it gains some major traction, I don't see it taking off.

If everyone who thinks it's a nice idea acts upon it, then it will take off...

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Cherry - you need to tell us now when to start getting people to buy / download it.

.

And cool re Andre Simone, btw!

CherryMoon57 said:

I have just noticed that Andre Cymone is now one of our followers on Twitter...

.

Dibblekins said:

MattyJam said:

I think this is a nice idea. I would buy it and support the effort if I believed it had a chance in hell. Unfortunately, unless it gains some major traction, I don't see it taking off.

If everyone who thinks it's a nice idea acts upon it, then it will take off...

Well, like I said, I will support it if whoever is organising it gets enough attention and exposure for it to actually stand a chance. But the truth is, if this stands a chance in hell at succeeding, it will need mass media exposure in the UK press. Because we're talking tens of thousands of copies sold, not just 256 people who liked the idea on prince.org.

MattyJam said:

Dibblekins said:

If everyone who thinks it's a nice idea acts upon it, then it will take off...

Well, like I said, I will support it if whoever is organising it gets enough attention and exposure for it to actually stand a chance. But the truth is, if this stands a chance in hell at succeeding, it will need mass media exposure in the UK press. Because we're talking tens of thousands of copies sold, not just 256 people who liked the idea on prince.org.

These days, nothing that goes viral has had UK (or whatever country) press exposure first, and this is the actual point of this campaign. Same with everything really. If everyone waits for their neighbour to start doing something positive, it could take some time!

How many Prince fans are there in the UK again? I'm sure there was a thread about it not so long ago... Go on, you first!...

Dibblekins said:

MattyJam said:

I think this is a nice idea. I would buy it and support the effort if I believed it had a chance in hell. Unfortunately, unless it gains some major traction, I don't see it taking off.

If everyone who thinks it's a nice idea acts upon it, then it will take off...

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Cherry - you need to tell us now when to start getting people to buy / download it.

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And cool re Andre Simone, btw!

Don't worry Dibblekins, we've got until December 16th! We need to make the most of the remaining time to spread the info as fast as we can! I can see that things are picking up on Twitter and Facebook, with numbers of Tweets / Shares/ doubling up each day. This is a very good sign, things don't take long to spread once it really starts...

BBC Radio 6 liked one of our tweets this morning! They're getting closer... Did you notice their profile pic?