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Reply #90 posted 10/13/16 6:19am

BartVanHemelen

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FUNKNROLL said:

$35 mil? There was a time when Prince's advance was $100 mil.

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NO IT WAS NOT.

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http://musicfans.stackexc...m/a/89/129

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Also read the Possessed excerpt Alex Hahn recently posted.

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Reply #91 posted 10/13/16 6:21am

laurarichardso
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BartVanHemelen said:

FUNKNROLL said:

$35 mil? There was a time when Prince's advance was $100 mil.

.

NO IT WAS NOT.

.

http://musicfans.stackexc...m/a/89/129

.

Also read the Possessed excerpt Alex Hahn recently posted.

It does not matter what advances he received it has nothing to do with the 35million figure that some journalist made up.

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Reply #92 posted 10/13/16 6:52am

PennyPurple

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I don't think Billboard just made this story up.

The old saying is, 'where there is smoke, there is fire'.

Something IS going on with the vault.

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Reply #93 posted 10/13/16 7:07am

rogifan

smoothcriminal12 said:

Well, Prince definitely predicted this would all happen one day. It's just sad to see it actually happen.


What has happened? confused
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Reply #94 posted 10/13/16 7:09am

rogifan

PennyPurple said:

I don't think Billboard just made this story up.



The old saying is, 'where there is smoke, there is fire'.



Something IS going on with the vault.


Maybe but I don't buy the $35m figure.
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Reply #95 posted 10/13/16 7:14am

PennyPurple

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

I don't think Billboard just made this story up.

The old saying is, 'where there is smoke, there is fire'.

Something IS going on with the vault.

Maybe but I don't buy the $35m figure.

Nope, it's waaay too low.

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Reply #96 posted 10/13/16 7:18am

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PennyPurple said:

I don't think Billboard just made this story up.

The old saying is, 'where there is smoke, there is fire'.

Something IS going on with the vault.

Yes, they took a figure that is being bandied about and are reporting it as if contracts are in place .According to Londell that is not the case.

Why would the estate sell the entire catalogue for such a ridculous amount of money? The estate needs financial help to get the music distrubuted and marketed. I suspect that this figure is about some negotiation for this type of deal.

No journalist at Billboard is looking at any signed contracts so I can't take this seriously.

[Edited 10/13/16 7:19am]

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Reply #97 posted 10/13/16 7:18am

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This is a bit frightening for all of us.

Of course, the release of the music comes with a bit of joy and a lot of anxiety.

Prince vaulted this music up for a reason. More than he could ever release in a life time anyway.

But if he could not feel good about the mixes of this music, then who could?

No one is ever going to make is sound like he would have.

I would love for two versions of each mix to go out. One polished master of the original with no tampering other than refinement of quality, and then the mix from whomever is trying to make it comercial.

What sad days.

We are all so full of doody here
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Reply #98 posted 10/13/16 7:19am

heathilly

It seems low but music doesnt sell like it used to and this stuff will mostly only appeal to hardcore fans. So its about right to turn a profit.

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Reply #99 posted 10/13/16 7:20am

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heathilly said:

It seems low but music doesnt sell like it used to and this stuff will mostly only appeal to hardcore fans. So its about right to turn a profit.

Selling the entire Vault for 35 million is not maximing the music.

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Reply #100 posted 10/13/16 7:30am

BartVanHemelen

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hollywooddove said:

Prince vaulted this music up for a reason.

.

Sometimes mere spite.

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Reply #101 posted 10/13/16 7:31am

smoothcriminal
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rogifan said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Well, Prince definitely predicted this would all happen one day. It's just sad to see it actually happen.

What has happened? confused

His vault and everything being shopped aroun for eventual commercial release. It just doesn't feel right yet.

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Reply #102 posted 10/13/16 7:51am

rogifan

smoothcriminal12 said:



rogifan said:


smoothcriminal12 said:

Well, Prince definitely predicted this would all happen one day. It's just sad to see it actually happen.



What has happened? confused

His vault and everything being shopped aroun for eventual commercial release. It just doesn't feel right yet.



laurarichardson said:



heathilly said:


It seems low but music doesnt sell like it used to and this stuff will mostly only appeal to hardcore fans. So its about right to turn a profit.



Selling the entire Vault for 35 million is not maximing the music.


Um, Londell denied this Billboard story. confused
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Reply #103 posted 10/13/16 8:01am

bonatoc

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As much as fans see him as an international superstar,
this has been true in recent years for live apperances only.

For the rest, Prince is a maverick artist, not that bankable.
His strong personality is not for the faint of heart.
People acquired to Prince's cause are of a breed.
The marketing target is pretty narrow, cynically speaking.

You can sell Queen albums to death because "We Are The Champions"
is way more digestible than "Purple Rain", a song about separation.
You can use it to sell almost anything.
"Cream"? A song evoking ejaculation?
GrandMa's Dairy® Inc. express their concerns.

Plus, the guy dresses like my aunt and wears more make-up than my sister.

« - Well OK it all makes sense when you dig into his philosophy,
but who cares about philosophy, Mad Man?
I had to milk the milk, now I have to milk the people,
I'm a busy man, have any other option that won't threaten
the average father of 1.26's masculinity?
A dead fag yodeling for stadiums? Feckin' perfect!!! »

Plus, the Vault is filled with autobiographics, it's a journal,
not a massive collection of potential #1 hits.

Plus, he's a Genius, so whoever buys the Steel Door has better have the Music's interests at heart,
or we'll found a parallel network of hardcore fans who will put out revision after revision
of gems such as "1986: A Year In The Life" box set or the "Homemade Deluxe" editions,
we'll get our hands on the best german vynils and japanese CD's, we will painstakingly
get the original 3D sound of the vinyls, we'll have Peach and Black, Per Nilsen and insiders liner notes,
we'll make your catalogue look and sound like shit.
We'll mix soundboard with the same VG+ audience takes, it'll spin your eardrums off.
We'll stand up, organized.
We'll make you worthless.


You've been Warne'd, "Bro".

We do not forget, etc. biggrin


- Now, on your left, a Coldplay album cover this ain't.
Notice the black french citizen on the right.
He often gets cut out in reproductions.
Notice how nothing is sacred for the French:
even a serious matter like the Revolution
serves as an excuse to put some boobs on display.

Indecent breed.
At least they're pro-Guns for Children.


Now, to your right...

[Edited 10/13/16 8:49am]

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #104 posted 10/13/16 8:06am

tmo1965

rap said:

Why the fuck doesn't Londell release an actual statement and let us fans know what the hell is going on. He's an educated man.

Jesus, it's like Prince is still alive and we're being drip fed cryptic bullshit and nonsensical tweets!!

Londell's tweet makes perfect sense - The Billboard article is FALSE! Don't believe it.

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Reply #105 posted 10/13/16 8:08am

hollywooddove

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lol

BartVanHemelen said:

hollywooddove said:

Prince vaulted this music up for a reason.

.

Sometimes mere spite.

We are all so full of doody here
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Reply #106 posted 10/13/16 8:18am

ladygirl99

People, put your emotions aside a bit. Because eventually the estate is going to have to make some tough choices because bills have to be paid and they have to consider this as Prince's core fanbase are aging and Prince is no longer around to generate money as he made lot of his money off touring, and among other reasons.

I agree 35 million is very paltry for a superstar like Prince.

And Londell is suspect.

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Reply #107 posted 10/13/16 8:43am

1Sasha

And remember we do not know how much of what is in the vault belongs to Prince's estate. There may be work product in there which belongs to WB or other entities he had signed contracts with. Such other ownership may significantly reduce the value of the estate. No one knows yet.

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Reply #108 posted 10/13/16 8:49am

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bonatoc said:





You've been Warne'd, Bro.

We do not forget, etc. biggrin


For the record: a Coldplay album cover this ain't.

[Edited 10/13/16 8:35am]

The artist was cold leaving that guy on the ground with no drawers and only one sock on. razz lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #109 posted 10/13/16 8:53am

AnnaStesia91

justAmeda said:



Ingela said:


It's a good thing. The family isn't a corporation with the capital expertise to manage it all. And it seems they need the money. There is a huge irony in a man fighting so hard for something and dies only to see most likely get what he fought for in the first place. We all die. If Prince was alive, it would be a different story, but if it's not important for the family to keep, then I see no problem. It will be in better hands. Let's remember, it was his own sister who sued the brother that most likely helped her financially for credit on a song. Again, he fought her in court and won. But in the end she got it all. Ats much as she could. It's all good. [Edited 10/12/16 16:23pm]

Then why don't they get their own jobs and EARN their money instead of mooching of Prince and his career?



You people and your fucking high horses kill me. You want them to handle things properly aka how you think it should be handled AND you suggest they go get a 9-5 while doing so.
Yea because if your multimillionaire brother left you with a big mess to clean up you would still be punching the clock cool
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Reply #110 posted 10/13/16 8:54am

bonatoc

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The artist was cold leaving that guy on the ground with no drawers and only one sock on. razz lol


"Well they're french, what did you expect."

We like our dicks hidden.
But we keep our socks on.
Men like to show their nipples too.
We stick our tongues where we shouldn't.

It's a complicated country.





The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #111 posted 10/13/16 9:10am

terrig

this makes me queasy sad

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Reply #112 posted 10/13/16 9:19am

rogifan

ladygirl99 said:

People, put your emotions aside a bit. Because eventually the estate is going to have to make some tough choices because bills have to be paid and they have to consider this as Prince's core fanbase are aging and Prince is no longer around to generate money as he made lot of his money off touring, and among other reasons.



I agree 35 million is very paltry for a superstar like Prince.



And Londell is suspect.


Around here it seems everyone is suspect.
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Reply #113 posted 10/13/16 9:37am

Ingela

AnnaStesia91 said:

justAmeda said:



Ingela said:


It's a good thing. The family isn't a corporation with the capital expertise to manage it all. And it seems they need the money. There is a huge irony in a man fighting so hard for something and dies only to see most likely get what he fought for in the first place. We all die. If Prince was alive, it would be a different story, but if it's not important for the family to keep, then I see no problem. It will be in better hands. Let's remember, it was his own sister who sued the brother that most likely helped her financially for credit on a song. Again, he fought her in court and won. But in the end she got it all. Ats much as she could. It's all good. [Edited 10/12/16 16:23pm]

Then why don't they get their own jobs and EARN their money instead of mooching of Prince and his career?



You people and your fucking high horses kill me. You want them to handle things properly aka how you think it should be handled AND you suggest they go get a 9-5 while doing so.
Yea because if your multimillionaire brother left you with a big mess to clean up you would still be punching the clock cool


Yeah they all had their own lives before this all fell on their lap. And they're not that young with all the energy and free time in the world to become record executives with all the contacts and lawyers and capital.

Tupac has his dear mom who obviously deeply cared about her own sons work and legacy and had the fire in her. She formed a holdings company for all his unreleased work. Prince because he was older and no wife or kids sadly had no one who is passionate enough to pass it on to. And who knows? After he was gone maybe he didn't care who was fighting over his stuff. If he did, he would have left a will.

Since Prince himself, (and that is who we cared for) is not here to benefit financially from any of this, at this point I don't think it matters who makes money off it as long as they have the wherewithal to manage correctly, and it takes a lot of money and expertise to do that. So for the fan, it makes far more sense for it to go to a greedy corporation with deep pockets. A greedy corporation with deep pockets takes good care of themselves and their investments. That's what greedy corporations are known for. That means his work will be taken care of.

A bunch of old people with no expertise or desire to become responsible for all the work it entails, and for what would be a really HUGE endeavor for anyone to manage, is not the best place for it to be.
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Reply #114 posted 10/13/16 9:54am

bonatoc

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^ So what you're saying is that it is either the cancer,
or the bubonic pest.

You're kind of legitimating greed. A bit.

I'm not keen on excusing ignorance and lack of culture.
I would prefer for the Vault to fall into good hands.
Someone who knows exactly what (s)he's dealing with.

From a distance, The Beatles and Bob Dylan catalogues
are curated by people who have found the right balance
between interesting documentation and commercial viability,
without having to resort to people who think the urgence (less than 6 months, bravo)
is turning the place where a person has lived and died tragically
suits perfectly fine for a cash cow.


The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #115 posted 10/13/16 10:09am

PennyPurple

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Again, Billboard didn't just pull this story out of thin air. There has to be some kind of feelers going out about the vault.

Londell can deny, deny, deny all he wants.

Where there is smoke, there is fire.

I have no doubt, that the vault is being shopped around.

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Reply #116 posted 10/13/16 10:11am

leadline

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Guess they just want a quick payday. With 3 players involved, I am sure they are expecting a giant bidding war. The catalog is worth way more than 35mill.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #117 posted 10/13/16 10:13am

PennyPurple

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Plus, the guy dresses like my aunt and wears more make-up than my sister.

To Bonatoc: He may have dressed like your aunt, and wore more make-up than your sister. But he was the sexiest MF around. biggrin

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Reply #118 posted 10/13/16 10:17am

FunkOnTheOne

BartVanHemelen said:

hollywooddove said:

Prince vaulted this music up for a reason.

.

Sometimes mere spite.

Something Bart is somewhat of a leading expert in.

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Reply #119 posted 10/13/16 10:24am

luvgirl

bonatoc said:

As much as fans see him as an international superstar,
this has been true in recent years for live apperances only.

For the rest, Prince is a maverick artist, not that bankable.
His strong personality is not for the faint of heart.
People acquired to Prince's cause are of a breed.
The marketing target is pretty narrow, cynically speaking.

You can sell Queen albums to death because "We Are The Champions"
is way more digestible than "Purple Rain", a song about separation.
You can use it to sell almost anything.
"Cream"? A song evoking ejaculation?
GrandMa's Dairy® Inc. express their concerns.

Plus, the guy dresses like my aunt and wears more make-up than my sister.

« - Well OK it all makes sense when you dig into his philosophy,
but who cares about philosophy, Mad Man?
I had to milk the milk, now I have to milk the people,
I'm a busy man, have any other option that won't threaten
the average father of 1.26's masculinity?
A dead fag yodeling for stadiums? Feckin' perfect!!! »

Plus, the Vault is filled with autobiographics, it's a journal,
not a massive collection of potential #1 hits.

Plus, he's a Genius, so whoever buys the Steel Door has better have the Music's interests at heart,
or we'll found a parallel network of hardcore fans who will put out revision after revision
of gems such as "1986: A Year In The Life" box set or the "Homemade Deluxe" editions,
we'll get our hands on the best german vynils and japanese CD's, we will painstakingly
get the original 3D sound of the vinyls, we'll have Peach and Black, Per Nilsen and insiders liner notes,
we'll make your catalogue look and sound like shit.
We'll mix soundboard with the same VG+ audience takes, it'll spin your eardrums off.
We'll stand up, organized.
We'll make you worthless.


You've been Warne'd, "Bro".

We do not forget, etc. biggrin




- Now, on your left, a Coldplay album cover this ain't.
Notice the black french citizen on the right.
He often gets cut out in reproductions.
Notice how nothing is sacred for the French:
even a serious matter like the Revolution
serves as an excuse to put some boobs on display.

Indecent breed.
At least they're pro-Guns for Children.


Now, to your right...


[Edited 10/13/16 8:49am]



Ha! Love it! lol
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