bonatoc said:

Can you confirm that this was exactly what he had in mind?

I will make peace with the fact that opiaces burnt what was left of Prince's spirit a decade ago, or rather, the way I saw Prince's spirit.
It's very hard for me to reconcile this worldwide display, on the internet, in the museum, on the Facebook/Instagram/Pinterest pics that will be taken like holy requels,
with the humbled man Prince was.

Isn't his so-much-revered Bible against idols?

If you can prove me that he explicitely asked for his ashes to be displayed in Paisley Park for all tourists to see, I'll make amends.

For those saying some are acting like they know Prince let me repeat myself:

LuxLove said:

Does dignity in death mean nothing or is it a free for all because Prince was PRINCE? Do not be fooled into thinking this is anything other than explotative paid promotion & Prince's remains are being used for that purpose. I personally struggle see how that can be justified & I will never be comfortable with even the thought let alone the reality. As I have said before, Prince did not live like a Kardashian, we all know how sacred his privacy was to him - this was OBVIOUS, made starkly clear over & over again throughout his life - it's not projecting to have the belief that Prince would NOT be ok with this. To dismiss all that just because he is no longer here is baffling to me. This is when it matters most to show respect to him.

It's not acting like I know him to say he was very private & would probably hate pictures of his urn being in People & everywhere else. We KNOW HOW PRIVATE HE WAS. Where is the proof that this is something he requested? Of course everyone wants to be respectful to the family but it's very difficult to see the things that are going on that do not appear to be in line with the man we've been into for years/decades whatever - there is nothing wrong with drawing conclusions based on what we've seen/heard from Prince over the years.

bonatoc said:

Can you confirm that this was exactly what he had in mind?

I will make peace with the fact that opiaces burnt what was left of Prince's spirit a decade ago, or rather, the way I saw Prince's spirit.
It's very hard for me to reconcile this worldwide display, on the internet, in the museum, on the Facebook/Instagram/Pinterest pics that will be taken like holy requels,
with the humbled man Prince was.

Isn't his so-much-revered Bible against idols?

If you can prove me that he explicitely asked for his ashes to be displayed in Paisley Park for all tourists to see, I'll make amends.

I'm still waiting for any official confirmation that Prince wanted his remains to be displayed this way...

If he did, then I am fine with it. If not, than I am not. But, in the end, my opinion doesn't matter and I am going to let this go. When we leave here, the physical doesn't matter any more. It only matters to those who remain behind.

[Edited 10/11/16 22:33pm]

LuxLove said:

Of course everyone wants to be respectful to the family but it's very difficult to see the things that are going on that do not appear to be in line with the man we've been into for years/decades whatever - there is nothing wrong with drawing conclusions based on what we've seen/heard from Prince over the years.

There was a time, not too long ago, when using social media and streaming music services "did not appear to be in line with the man we've been into for years/decades."

People change, especially when they believe the end is near. It is wrong to assume he couldn't have possibly wanted PP to be his final resting place.

Pokeno4Money said:

There was a time, not too long ago, when using social media and streaming music services "did not appear to be in line with the man we've been into for years/decades."

People change, especially when they believe the end is near. It is wrong to assume he couldn't have possibly wanted PP to be his final resting place.

First the taxes, and now Spotify as an excuse?
Because if I get this right, Prince knew the end was near a decade ago?
When he was screaming Fury on SNL?
Wow.

There's no will, and yet somehow someone knows that this is what he would have wanted,
based on the fact that he (maybe) once said it?
How many times Prince said something and did something else at the very last moment?

[Edited 10/11/16 22:33pm]

IsufferfromMPS said:

I wish ppl here would stop acting like they KNOW Prince. This is exactly why he was so " private" which seems to be the word of the day. He didn't want ppl(fans)in is his business because he didn't owe nan one of us shit and ppl start to act like they're opinions about anything other than music should matter Nobody here actually knows a damn thing about him other than what he WANTED us to know. Call yourself a fan and that entitles you to something from him other than his music? Since some of u know him so well, he aint like shit. He has actually said that(im paraphrasing of course) so thats how i can say i know. Nothing at all is good enough. I'd really like to see how some of u would handle an undertaking of this magnitude when you're still grieving the loss of your loved one while trying to please the ungrateful, entitled, knows your loved one better than u masses

bonatoc said:

Pokeno4Money said:

LuxLove said:

Of course everyone wants to be respectful to the family but it's very difficult to see the things that are going on that do not appear to be in line with the man we've been into for years/decades whatever - there is nothing wrong with drawing conclusions based on what we've seen/heard from Prince over the years.

There was a time, not too long ago, when using social media and streaming music services "did not appear to be in line with the man we've been into for years/decades."

People change, especially when they believe the end is near. It is wrong to assume he couldn't have possibly wanted PP to be his final resting place.

Acually I thought he was always into that sort of thing with his AOL chats & all that so it was no suprise to me he ended up back there after saying the internet was dead. Yes people change but his wish for privacy did not.

Once again though the point has been completely missed - the bolded part of your comment - that's not what the thread nor my point is about - it's about PICTURES OF HIS URN BEING IN A MAGAZINE IN ORDER TO PROMOTE THE COMPANY

LuxLove said:

Asenath0607 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

bonatoc said:

It really is mind boggling how quickly the estate launched the museum. The basic overhead for Paisley Park was small compared to what the costs must be NOW with a bunch of workers hired, security, charter buses to haul visitors back and forth, lots of utilities being used, etc. Basically they're spending a lot of money to make money.

It's okay with me..Prince was never conventional and the family knew he loved PP..It's his ashes..Prince's soul is in heaven.

LuxLove said:

For those saying some are acting like they know Prince let me repeat myself:

It's not acting like I know him to say he was very private & would probably hate pictures of his urn being in People & everywhere else. We KNOW HOW PRIVATE HE WAS. Where is the proof that this is something he requested? Of course everyone wants to be respectful to the family but it's very difficult to see the things that are going on that do not appear to be in line with the man we've been into for years/decades whatever - there is nothing wrong with drawing conclusions based on what we've seen/heard from Prince over the years.

Don't understand how some people are putting down fans who sense things aren't right. How is it that fans among us can consider that this, or that, is not what Prince would want? But Prince's own sister, that knew him her whole life, doesn't seem to have a clue or doesn't care to honor Prince's ideals.

fbueller said:

LuxLove said:

For those saying some are acting like they know Prince let me repeat myself:

It's not acting like I know him to say he was very private & would probably hate pictures of his urn being in People & everywhere else. We KNOW HOW PRIVATE HE WAS. Where is the proof that this is something he requested? Of course everyone wants to be respectful to the family but it's very difficult to see the things that are going on that do not appear to be in line with the man we've been into for years/decades whatever - there is nothing wrong with drawing conclusions based on what we've seen/heard from Prince over the years.

Don't understand how some people are putting down fans who sense things aren't right. How is it that fans among us can consider that this, or that, is not what Prince would want? But Prince's own sister, that knew him her whole life, doesn't seem to have a clue or doesn't care to honor Prince's ideals.

BINGO

Yes, it sounds like the museum was in the making and he'd been doing small scale tours of PP in recent times but having his remains on display and the urn being publicised - NO WAY he'd want that

We have to remember, he was cremated, and so there is no head stone to go to, like with Morrison or Presley. This is as close to a memorial as the public will get.

It is only natural some news will want to cover this. As far as it being People Mag., then who would we be comfortable with?

Facebook pic from your friends???

Some find it very shocking that it is up front, but where is a better place for the memorial??

In the very back??? Like it's the least important???

People magazine would have probably shot the headstone if it existed.

It needs to be up front, it is HIM. And he was the heart and soul of PP.

teach49 said:

I'll admit that I'm a little uncomfortable with it, but I think I'm a little uncomfortable with urn containing ashes being anywhere that you just walk by (even though I want to be cremated...don't ask). OTOH, where else would Prince be but Paisley Park? A gravesite? A church? That cemetery in Paris? Of course his remains should be at PP.

Then the question is where at PP and I don't think they could satisfy everyone no matter what they did. So, in the end, I trust that Tyka knew what her brother cared about and what he didn't care about (he might not have cared a whole lot what she did with his remains) and she's acting accordingly. We are uncomfortable with death as a society, so it is what it is.

rogifan said:

If people want to talk about tacky...

hollywooddove said:

We have to remember, he was cremated, and so there is no head stone to go to, like with Morrison or Presley. This is as close to a memorial as the public will get.

It is only natural some news will want to cover this. As far as it being People Mag., then who would we be comfortable with?

Facebook pic from your friends???

Some find it very shocking that it is up front, but where is a better place for the memorial??

In the very back??? Like it's the least important???

People magazine would have probably shot the headstone if it existed.

It needs to be up front, it is HIM. And he was the heart and soul of PP.

Here Here! Well said hollywooddove

morningsong said:

LuxLove said:

Acually I thought he was always into that sort of thing with his AOL chats & all that so it was no suprise to me he ended up back there after saying the internet was dead. Yes people change but his wish for privacy did not.

Once again though the point has been completely missed - the bolded part of your comment - that's not what the thread nor my point is about - it's about PICTURES OF HIS URN BEING IN A MAGAZINE IN ORDER TO PROMOTE THE COMPANY

Ok you think its wrong. Other fans think the family is just using it to lure tourist, which is why they thought it wasn't put out in the media. So you got on one hand fans thinking showing a picture of it is wrong and on the other hand fans thinking not showing a picture of it is wrong, which group of fans deserve the most appeasing? I'd really like to know.

The ones that will STILL be truly loving and honoring the man, the artist and the music that Prince was-- long after the attention seekers and media hypes have stopped giving a damn!

hollywooddove said:

We have to remember, he was cremated, and so there is no head stone to go to, like with Morrison or Presley. This is as close to a memorial as the public will get.

It is only natural some news will want to cover this. As far as it being People Mag., then who would we be comfortable with?

Facebook pic from your friends???

Some find it very shocking that it is up front, but where is a better place for the memorial??

In the very back??? Like it's the least important???

People magazine would have probably shot the headstone if it existed.

It needs to be up front, it is HIM. And he was the heart and soul of PP.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

morningsong said:

LuxLove said: Ok you think its wrong. Other fans think the family is just using it to lure tourist, which is why they thought it wasn't put out in the media. So you got on one hand fans thinking showing a picture of it is wrong and on the other hand fans thinking not showing a picture of it is wrong, which group of fans deserve the most appeasing? I'd really like to know.

The ones that will STILL be truly loving and honoring the man, the artist and the music that Prince was-- long after the attention seekers and media hypes have stopped giving a damn!

Well that's a time thing, and I still think you'll end up with people in many camps regardless.

I avoided looking at the urn...until someone on another thread posted a picture of it...

In thinking about this a little more and reading some of the comments, I think Tyka and family are being judged a little harshly. The apparently are all PAID and have more money than they probably could have ever expected. They OWN PP, Prince's remains, the music, etc, etc etc. They could take it all and run......throw Prince in some dark closet next to some ole' pair of shoes and spend his money away. Instead, they realize that Prince meant so much to so many people that they want to do what they can to help ensure (PROMOTE) his legacy.

So, their intentions, I believe, are good.....

One could argue that Prince made a combination of brilliant and questionable choices in controlling and marketing himself, in life. The way he vehemently protected his property rights led you to believe that they were extremely important to him. I once heard in an interview Prince say, in regards to his "vault music" , that someone-someday may release it after he's gone....... This led me (and many) to believe that he DEFINITELY had it all planned out for after he was gone. He HAD to, right? We now know that Prince left no will, no instruction for PP, his music, and maybe even his body's resting place. The math doesn't quite add up....other than he cared and protected himself in life but in death his property meant nothing to him. His most important legacy was the music and that is already dispersed and given out. He always said that the MUSIC is what he wanted people to remember of him.

This sort of tells me that Prince imagined someone would pick up the control of his property and make use of it after he was gone. I don't think he cared who was in control or necessarliy what they did.

Now put yourself in the Nelson family's shoes. Prince was apparently not all that close with the siblings and they obviously didn't know who his heirs were. Tyka saying she knew that Prince knew he was dying becuase he said he's "done all he was sent here to do" is her trying to make sense of his unexpected death and connect dots that aren't necessarily there. This sounds more like "I've accomplished everything in life that I set out to do" and not some opening up that he was sick. Its not as if she said Prince told her he was sick and dying. I think she and her family were as shocked as everyone.

So you have these handful of Nelson's ....just regular people... now thrust into the limelite with the power and authority to manage Prince's estate. Can you imagine the vultures that started to circle? I bet they had NOT CLUE that they would be the default heirs.

So, what do these "normal, everyday people" family members, who arent necessarily as skillful and talented as their brother, do? They get the operators of Graceland to help out because-hey- its been around and successful for decades and.....who else could they call. The Jacksons have Michael deep underground and I think Neverland has turned back into a cow pasture.

In truth, PP is probably not all that exciting a place to see and visit .....for the mass population. As one commenter said, the "museum" has some posters hung up, a motorcycle or two, some clothes, and Studio A. Yes there is a marketing aspect to the People magazine photos but you need something to draw people in and also let the world know that it even exisists.

The Nelson family has at sought help from some professionals who can protect them from vultures as they try to responsibly continue Prince's legacy in THEIR interest.