HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Noodled24 said:

Pheromone is his most sinister song. Hands down.

I can see the castle
I can see the throne
I can see the beloved and she's not alone
But it's cool like that
Cause I'll be diggin' her just the same
I can see the curtain wrestled from the wall
I can see her hands tied
I can see it all
He pulls a gat
This is how they play the game
And I'm 'round the the back
Cause curiosity it knows no shame

I can feel the tension through the crack in the door
He begs for love, while she's disgusted more
And I'm on fire, cause I never seen her nude before
I want to save her (save her)
I want to watch (watch)
All my vital signs go up a couple of notches
When he unties her and she runs to the open door
He trips and grinds her (grinds her)
Right there all on the floor (on the floor)
She so close I can touch her (touch her)

Her eyes are closed but there's no penetration
He just makes her point the pistol to his nose
While he masturbates and now I see a tear
Heading down towards her smile
What happens next it all depends upon your style

Where do you even start with this?

It's not just a lyric it's a whole song that plays out as a story.

In the first verse he sets the scene up. The curtains wrestled from the wall as if this couple have been fighting. But he also refers to it as being "how they play the game". So it never becomes clear if this is a fantasy or reality. One line suggests reality the next suggests fantasy.

Does the girl kill this man? Is she smiling because she's got the gun? Or because her partner is about to come?

It all depends on you the listener as to how this plays out in the end. Fucking genius. But from a very dark place.

[Edited 9/30/16 10:34am]

true..but musically its too repititous

jesme1999 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I just figured it would have been named already but here we are two pages in and it hasn't. So I guess it's been left up to me to show the hard cold truth.

It's actually...

"Eye Hate U"

Yes ! Yes ! Yes !

It's "I hate you". The eye symbol represents I. Not eye.

There is nothing particularly sinister about the song. Although it's a weird video to put your wife in. It makes it seem like the song is about Mayte and then she's made to act it out in this video.

BillieBalloon said:

26ten said:

The entire "If I Was Your Girlfriend" sounds to me like a man on the edge of something horrifying.

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Not for me, I think he just wants the closeness with his lover that she has with her girlfriends. I love that song and his white faux fur coat that he delivered it in.

Yep agreed, Girlfriend is more of a plea. Wonderful lyrics too. In my Top 5 Prince songs without doubt.

Imagine a young woman running for her very life
Trying to get away from the one who loves her
This young woman your wife
Into an alley cold and rainy
October just before dawn
Leaping atop a mountain of bricks
Her clothes now covered with sick
The danger hardly gone
She turns and curses the day she met you
And that she wishes she was never born.

"Here On Earth" - "One Nite Alone"

In 1998 he sung ..

Osama Bin Ladan get ready to bomb ..... America you'd better watch out ...... 2001 Hit me

SquirrelMeat76 said:

paulludvig said:

SquirrelMeat76 said:

Yep agreed, Girlfriend is more of a plea. Wonderful lyrics too. In my Top 5 Prince songs without doubt.

The music that supports the lyrics (especially the organ) suggest desperation that is about to spiral out of control. That's not sweet,it's singstar.

Yes, indeed

214 said:

paulludvig said:

SquirrelMeat76 said: The music that supports the lyrics (especially the organ) suggest desperation that is about to spiral out of control. That's not sweet,it's singstar.

Yes, indeed

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I think that the whole song is very tongue-in-cheek

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I'd say the rape lyrics mentioned aren't to be taken too seriously. Prince was very young, and not very sensitive. He just means "I want to fuck you so bad that it's going to happen whether you say yes or not" -- which is not cool, of course. But I don't think the intention is as bad as it sounds.

The most disturbing thing in 18 & Over is "in goes the truth and out come the lies" (if that's the lyric). Much more misogynistic in its way.

QueenofCardboard said:

214 said:

Yes, indeed

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I think that the whole song is very tongue-in-cheek

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What does that mean?

khelm9 said:

He had a few moments where he just went off the rails into some deep dark areas (which I loved). For me it's the rape breakdown towards the end of Extraloveable. I'm disturbed by it every time yet I get chills. Hard to explain. Any others?

Strange that people never mention the original lyrics to "U' which include 'You drive a boy to rape, U know U do!

214 said:

QueenofCardboard said:

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I think that the whole song is very tongue-in-cheek

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What does that mean?

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This is in reference to the song 'If I Was Your Girlfriend'

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tongue-in-cheek:

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in a way that is not serious and that is meant to be funny

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QueenofCardboard said:

214 said:

What does that mean?

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This is in reference to the song 'If I Was Your Girlfriend'

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tongue-in-cheek:

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in a way that is not serious and that is meant to be funny

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Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary

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I find this song quite serious, not tonguein cheek at all.

U, got a sexy way about ya
U, drive a guy to rape, U know U do.

- Prince's demo for U, 1987

SonyaG said:

I always thought Temptation was his most sinister song, his internal fight between good and evil.

icequeen78 said:

Joint 2 joint doesn't sound like it's being sung to or about a woman.. Joint 2 joint.. penis to penis... That whole verse with the sucking business and bics.. and you've got the rock to give a brother cream... men say they are hard as a rock... umm this song is and has always been weird and ambiguous. He doesn't say anything but baby.. not she or girl.. just baby... ..and all Dicks, Tom's and harrys are not the same? Very interesting wording...

i once had an argument with someone i tried to tell about that song...they were in complete denial...but i always thought those lyrics were very gay...i always wondered how that song kinda flew over everyones' head

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I just figured it would have been named already but here we are two pages in and it hasn't. So I guess it's been left up to me to show the hard cold truth.

It's actually...

"Eye Hate U"

U have just accessed the Hate Experience
Do U wish 2 change your entry?
Very well, please enjoy your experience
I never thought that U would be the one
After all the things that we've been through
U gave your body 2 another in the name of fun
I hope U had some baby, if not, boo hoo

It's so sad but I hate U like a day without sunshine
It's so bad but I hate U cuz U're all that's ever on my mind
Honey, I hate U - Now everyday would be a waste of time
Cuz I hate U

I never thought that I could feel this way
2 fall in love was a table reserved 4 fools
Say U're sorry if U wanna but it's all in vain
I'm out the door sweet baby, that's right, we're through

It's so sad but I hate U like a day without sunshine
It's so bad but I hate U cuz U're all that's ever on my mind
Honey, I hate U - Now everyday would be a waste of time
Cuz I hate U

This court is now in session
Would the defendant please rise?
State your name 4 the court
Never mind (Billy Jack Bitch)
U're being charged with one 2 many counts of heartbreaking
In the 1st degree
I don't give a damn about the others
My main concern is U and me

Your honor, may I call 2 the stand my one and only witness?
A girl that know damn well she didn't have no damn business
I know what U did, how U did it and uh.. who U did it with
So U might as well plead guilty cuz U sure can't plead the 5th
Now raise your right hand
Do U swear 2 tell the whole truth
Not the half truth like U used 2 so help U God?
Nod your head one time if U hear me
If U don't, I'll have 2 use the rod
Anything 2 make U see that uh.. U're gonna miss me
Yeah, U're gonna miss me
Uh, uh, uh, oh!

If it please the court
I'd like 2 have the defendant place her hands behind her back
So I can tie her up tight and get into the act
The act of showing her how good it used 2 be
I want it 2 be so good she falls back in love with me

Close your eyes
I'm gonna cover your ass with this sheet
And I want U 2 pump your hips like U used 2
And, baby, U better stay on the beat
Did U do 2 your other man the same things that U did 2 me?
Right now I hate U so much I wanna make love until U see
That it's killin' me, baby, 2 be without U
Cuz all I ever wanted 2 do was 2 be with U ... ow!

I hate U (I hate U)
Because I love U (Because I love U)
But I can't love U (I can't love U)
Because I hate U (I hate U)

Because I love U
I love U, baby
I love U [x3]

I love U cuz U're all that's ever on my mind
I hate U because I love U

THis song freaks me out when I here the non radio version. This has got to be in the top 5. I always feared the Prince would really act out the words to the song. Who pissed him off?

[Edited 10/27/16 16:19pm]

There's a kind of rapey interlude in Purple Music too, where he seems to be forcing himself on the servant who's preparing his bath. "I don't want to play anymore!" Considering the minimal lyrics, that really comes out of nowhere.

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And at the end of Do Yourself A Favor, he seems to imagine himself beating the shit out of the girl that spurned him, as the beat goes to all heavy toms "BAM BAM BAM!""You not crazy... I'm the one that's crazy!"

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These are mostly unreleased songs we're talking about. I can understand him wanting to take that "I'm a badass" sentiment all the way and expressing it kind of bluntly, and then rethinking the whole thing in a more sober moment. Certainly one of the things we like about him is his ability to go right over the top with no warning.

214 said:

lazarus2009 said:

There's Others Here With Us

"When I'm alone, my mind takes a drive
Through chocolate religion and spirits alive
All I was brought up, in this world yo know
Is lost when a demon swallows them whole

There's others here wih us
There's others here with us, I know

Strange how your mind works when love is in power
One learns to care; appreciate a flower
Oh what makes others want to change your mind?
All the things I've seen, life is so sublime (so sublime)

There's others here with us
There's others here with us, I know

Seven month old baby died in her sleep
Parents went crazy and cried for a week
They swore they heard her laugh in the crib by the wall
They're convinced she's with us if she's anything at all

There's others here with us
There's others here with us, I know

Bobby had an uncle, who took a string
Wrapped his neck around it, what a pitiful thing
If we could turn back the hands of time
Except there's others here with us, life is sublime

There's others here with us
There's others here with us, I know (I know)

All the things I've seen, all the things I've seen

There's others here with us
There's others here with us, I know..."

That song still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. But I love it.

[Edited 10/4/16 5:02am]

Yes, this one is very creepy.

The creepiest of them all.


"Violet The Organ Grinder" is fucked up as well.

"All The Critics Love U In New York" is dark and paranoid.

"Solo" ain't no "Partyman".

"Annie Christian" is maybe the first creepy song of its repertoire.
A lot of murders going on.

"3 Chains O' Gold" goes pretty dark near the end.

I always found "Squirrel Meat" to be a very sinister concept.
"2 Nigs United For West Compton" scares me.

"Positivity" sure ain't positive.

The processed background voices/noises going on "Irresistible Bitch" are disturbing.

"Life Can Be So Nice" could not be musically further from its lyrics.

"Thieves in the temple" and its final screams: "You said you loved me!".


Gosh, I'm surprised there are so many creepy moments in Prince's work.
I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.

The end of DMSR is really quite sinister, with the woman screaming for help. It's particularly so because you get so into the groove and then that part arrives so expectedly. It feels like a real party where something went horribly wrong. In fact the whole '1999' album has an atmosphere of something disturbing happening.

I'd also throw 'Purple Music' and 'Crystal Ball' in as candidates. Not really for any particular lyrical content...just a feeling of dread in the music. All incredible tracks.

[Edited 10/27/16 21:57pm]

DonaFlor said:

Imagine a young woman running for her very life
Trying to get away from the one who loves her
This young woman your wife
Into an alley cold and rainy
October just before dawn
Leaping atop a mountain of bricks
Her clothes now covered with sick
The danger hardly gone
She turns and curses the day she met you
And that she wishes she was never born.

"Here On Earth" - "One Nite Alone"

LOVE that song....my fav part....

SayItsJustADream said:

DonaFlor said:

Imagine a young woman running for her very life
Trying to get away from the one who loves her
This young woman your wife
Into an alley cold and rainy
October just before dawn
Leaping atop a mountain of bricks
Her clothes now covered with sick
The danger hardly gone
She turns and curses the day she met you
And that she wishes she was never born.

"Here On Earth" - "One Nite Alone"

LOVE that song....my fav part....

Actually not just that part but the WHOLE song...

paraded said:

The end of DMSR is really quite sinister, with the woman screaming for help. It's particularly so because you get so into the groove and then that part arrives so expectedly. It feels like a real party where something went horribly wrong. In fact the whole '1999' album has an atmosphere of something disturbing happening.

I'd also throw 'Purple Music' and 'Crystal Ball' in as candidates. Not really for any particular lyrical content...just a feeling of dread in the music. All incredible tracks.

[Edited 10/27/16 21:57pm]

DMSR — I find it hilarious.

Purple Music — makes me think of the infamous Bubble Gum shot, the stoned eyes one, from the stills of "The 2nd Coming" movie. When he sings "I'm high", obviously. It's really disturbing, but I dunno, in a good way. I mean what's going underneath is Pure Genius™. The delivery is all dead, and again, to me, more funny than scary.
Being high on one's self, come on, it's LOL material, and as ever, tongue-in-cheek with Prince, he does his best to never let you be sure he's not actually persuaded to be so great he can get high on himself.

Crystal Ball — is fucking creepy. War advances, Explosions, the fucking end of the world.
Even Susannah has gone crazy, she draws dicks everywhere, the background vocals are zombies, the drums tries to run from the police, cellos are menacing, apocalypse gongs.
You have George Martin, Geoff Emerick and Pet Sounds' Brian Wilson influences and borrowed ideas all over the place.

Very few musicians went as deep within themselves as here. Heck, artists in general.
It's maybe his most introspective song, Prince hiding very personal stuff under indecipherable metaphors.

And then as it goes along it's delivered like Camille meets Tex Avery. OK, a creepy Tex Avery.
Congas, a smooth funk Bossa Nova on springs. Then the drums bring the War back on.

And then, out of nowhere, you have Susannah's whisper and Clare Fischer opening a flower right in the middle.
A brief ray of light cutting through the dark, polluted urban sky.

Like he read what Prince wanted, or rather, foresaw by the skinny motherfucker that was the original version Prince sent him, Prince's vision. He inked and coloured a pencil sketch.
The telepathic connection between these two, now THAT's creepy

Near the end, Prince derails the song. Back to reality, the world sucks and is full of violence. The last scream and the siren, the last chord, it's getting "serious" creepy back again. "Crystal Ball" is the evil, dark twin of "1999": In "Crystal Ball", basically, we're fucked. Yay. Talk about Party poop.

Put "Sign O' The Times" right after that, you wanna kill yourself.

[Edited 10/28/16 18:52pm]