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Reply #420 posted 08/18/16 10:10am

LuxLove

rogifan said:

EnDoRpHn said:

If you listen to any of his interviews, whether from the 90s or since Prince's death, it's very clear that this smug pr!ck thinks he was smarter than Prince. Sort of a real-life Bart, if such a thing could exist.

Does anyone seriously think anyone will mourn him when he's gone? More like, who? (Oh yeah, some guy that wrote liner notes for one of Prince's albums, also managed the roadies for several of Prince's tours.)

Didn't he post some crap on Facebook after Prince played SNL in 2014? I remember reading it here. That performance blew me away. And I'm not the only one....do a Twitter search and you'll see a lot of people felt the same way.


Yes! Remember it was like "less is more" & something about Prince having agendas. Just sounds bitter and twisted. Didn't he say he wanted to manage the vault like he'd done for James Brown?

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Reply #421 posted 08/18/16 10:31am

EnDoRpHn

LuxLove said:



rogifan said:


EnDoRpHn said:


If you listen to any of his interviews, whether from the 90s or since Prince's death, it's very clear that this smug pr!ck thinks he was smarter than Prince. Sort of a real-life Bart, if such a thing could exist.

Does anyone seriously think anyone will mourn him when he's gone? More like, who? (Oh yeah, some guy that wrote liner notes for one of Prince's albums, also managed the roadies for several of Prince's tours.)



Didn't he post some crap on Facebook after Prince played SNL in 2014? I remember reading it here. That performance blew me away. And I'm not the only one....do a Twitter search and you'll see a lot of people felt the same way.


Yes! Remember it was like "less is more" & something about Prince having agendas. Just sounds bitter and twisted. Didn't he say he wanted to manage the vault like he'd done for James Brown?



What do you think he's angling for now?
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Reply #422 posted 08/18/16 10:32am

wavesofbliss

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Yes! Remember it was like "less is more" & something about Prince having agendas. Just sounds bitter and twisted. Didn't he say he wanted to manage the vault like he'd done for James Brown?

i remember alan saying that people have asked him to consult on the vault. i think AL also mentioned it in the interview he gave to the org back in 2004 or something.

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Reply #423 posted 08/18/16 10:36am

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wavesofbliss said:



rogifan said:


babynoz said:

Can't Leeds ever say anything without one-upmanship being interjected?

I don't like this comment. Was it really necessary for him to establish some kind of elitist pecking order?

"There were a handful of people from each era of Prince but this was not a reunion for every damn person who ever worked for him. It was mostly those from way back in the day...Andre, Dez, Craig Rice, Me, Gilbert Davison and a smattering of folks from his most recent years."



He stopped working with Prince around 1993 or so? I guess he feels his 'era' was superior. If that's so I think he's full of it. Folks like John Blackwell, Rhonda Smith, Morris Hayes, Ida Nielsen are as good as anyone he worked with in the 80s.

FWIW his comment does seem bitchy or elitist to me. alan was around for the apotheosis, the trip to the mountain top. to the popular conscious that's the only period that matters. no one has been singing 'musicology', 'push it up' or 'screwdriver' for the last four months, and i wouldn't look for it to happen. blackwell, ida and the rest mentioned were as good or better musicians than some of the others but no one cares.



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to most people early prince = PR = prince and the revolution and


late prince = prince live = prince and whatever touring band he had.


The musicolgy tour grossed 80 million and thousands of dollars have been donated to John's Go/Fund Me page. So people care. The truth of the matter is Alan left to take a job at WB how long do you think he stayed there? He made a bad carreer decision and never really recovered. Prince rocked on does anyone think he was able to keep Paisley Park open by selling symbol pendents? He always found a way to get the dollars rolling in. Prince was sitting on 50 million dollars in Real Estate and who know what other investments he had. Alan knows he messed up.
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Reply #424 posted 08/18/16 10:38am

laurarichardso
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EnDoRpHn said:

LuxLove said:



rogifan said:


EnDoRpHn said:


If you listen to any of his interviews, whether from the 90s or since Prince's death, it's very clear that this smug pr!ck thinks he was smarter than Prince. Sort of a real-life Bart, if such a thing could exist.

Does anyone seriously think anyone will mourn him when he's gone? More like, who? (Oh yeah, some guy that wrote liner notes for one of Prince's albums, also managed the roadies for several of Prince's tours.)



Didn't he post some crap on Facebook after Prince played SNL in 2014? I remember reading it here. That performance blew me away. And I'm not the only one....do a Twitter search and you'll see a lot of people felt the same way.


Yes! Remember it was like "less is more" & something about Prince having agendas. Just sounds bitter and twisted. Didn't he say he wanted to manage the vault like he'd done for James Brown?



What do you think he's angling for now?

--/ A job. Maybe writing the notes on any complations that come out.
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Reply #425 posted 08/18/16 10:49am

wavesofbliss

laurarichardson said:

wavesofbliss said:

FWIW his comment does seem bitchy or elitist to me. alan was around for the apotheosis, the trip to the mountain top. to the popular conscious that's the only period that matters. no one has been singing 'musicology', 'push it up' or 'screwdriver' for the last four months, and i wouldn't look for it to happen. blackwell, ida and the rest mentioned were as good or better musicians than some of the others but no one cares.

===

to most people early prince = PR = prince and the revolution and

late prince = prince live = prince and whatever touring band he had.

The musicolgy tour grossed 80 million and thousands of dollars have been donated to John's Go/Fund Me page. So people care. The truth of the matter is Alan left to take a job at WB how long do you think he stayed there? He made a bad carreer decision and never really recovered. Prince rocked on does anyone think he was able to keep Paisley Park open by selling symbol pendents? He always found a way to get the dollars rolling in. Prince was sitting on 50 million dollars in Real Estate and who know what other investments he had. Alan knows he messed up.

not sure what this first part has to do with what i said.

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alan has been a manager for the last 20 yrs, mostly dangelo and maxwell. i think he consults with other artists. you seem to be saying that alan is bitter bcause he left PP. that's just not true. and if WB paid better than PP,and they did, why shouldn't he leave. he had a family and everyone knows Prince didn't pay shit- esp in the 80s-90s. most people in the industry think well of alan- most if not all of the associates do too. he seems to catch all kinds of hell on the org tho. i find that strange. confused

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Reply #426 posted 08/18/16 11:17am

cloveringold85

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zoso1978 said:

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said: I'm not sure Prince would want a memorial service period. lol I'm not bashing anyone and I apologize if my comments came across that way. Anyway the event in October is for the fans and I think it's unrealistic to expect it to be free. I'm looking forward to that event. I think it will allow people to grieve but also have fun which is what Prince would want IMO.

On my Facebook today:

hmmm

PRINCE OFFICIAL TRIBUTE CONCERT ANNOUNCED

Months after the world lost singer Prince to chronic pain,

his family has finally announced plans for an official tribute concert to celebrate the late artists’ life. Slated for October 13, the concert will be held at the U.S. Bank Stadium in his hometown of Minneapolis. Tickets go on sale this month, and participating artist will be announced on a rolling basis.

According to an official statement from the family: “We are excited for the opportunity to bring everyone together for the official family celebration of Prince’s life, music and legacy, and there is no better place to do it than his hometown of Minneapolis… We are honored by the artists who will pay tribute and grateful to those that have worked so hard to make this celebration possible.”

Check back for more information regarding the event as it is revealed.

PRINCE TRIBUTE DATES & LOCATION

October 13 @ U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, MN

PRINCE TRIBUTE LINEUP RUMORS

Lady Gaga, Stevie Wonder, Bruno Mars

PRINCE TRIBUTE TICKETS

On sale next month (September 2016.)

www.seatgeek.com

Lady Gaga? Seriously now??!! Prince did not like Gaga. Here we go again....another tribute to Prince with performers that had nothing to do with him, well excpet for Stevie Wonder.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #427 posted 08/18/16 11:21am

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EnDoRpHn said:

cloveringold85 said:

EnDo: Not sure who you are speaking to here, but I never said I was entitled to anything. I'm just saying the family could have given him a proper public memorial. I don't think that is asking for much. No need for rudeness here. cool

There's nothing rude in what I said. Were you really expecting there to be a public funeral where you could go look at a casket or a corpse? Prince clearly never intended that to happen.

What exactly would you propose?

Well, saying things like "I feel entitled" is a bit of a jab, imo. There are plenty of other people who feel the same way I do. I've explained myself on this subject already several times. We all have an opinion, so let's leave it at that. biggrin

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #428 posted 08/18/16 11:22am

laurarichardso
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wavesofbliss said:



laurarichardson said:


wavesofbliss said:


FWIW his comment does seem bitchy or elitist to me. alan was around for the apotheosis, the trip to the mountain top. to the popular conscious that's the only period that matters. no one has been singing 'musicology', 'push it up' or 'screwdriver' for the last four months, and i wouldn't look for it to happen. blackwell, ida and the rest mentioned were as good or better musicians than some of the others but no one cares.



===


to most people early prince = PR = prince and the revolution and


late prince = prince live = prince and whatever touring band he had.



The musicolgy tour grossed 80 million and thousands of dollars have been donated to John's Go/Fund Me page. So people care. The truth of the matter is Alan left to take a job at WB how long do you think he stayed there? He made a bad carreer decision and never really recovered. Prince rocked on does anyone think he was able to keep Paisley Park open by selling symbol pendents? He always found a way to get the dollars rolling in. Prince was sitting on 50 million dollars in Real Estate and who know what other investments he had. Alan knows he messed up.

not sure what this first part has to do with what i said.




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alan has been a manager for the last 20 yrs, mostly dangelo and maxwell. i think he consults with other artists. you seem to be saying that alan is bitter bcause he left PP. that's just not true. and if WB paid better than PP,and they did, why shouldn't he leave. he had a family and everyone knows Prince didn't pay shit- esp in the 80s-90s. most people in the industry think well of alan- most if not all of the associates do too. he seems to catch all kinds of hell on the org tho. i find that strange. confused


//- Your comment about know one caring. Musicolgy was the biggest grossing your Prince ever according to AEG Live. Prince did fine without Alan and he never made smug ass comments about Alan in the media. Maxwell and D'Angelo are never going to be as big as Prince and their track records are poor. I am glad Alan made more money with WB but how long did that last? How long was P chugging along after Alan left. The tour manager needs to stick to finding hotel rooms.
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Reply #429 posted 08/18/16 11:30am

rogifan

Shelby J. posted a couple more photos on her public FB page. One standing in front of the Prince mural at the Chanhassen movie theater. I love her. Her big smile just warms the heart.
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Reply #430 posted 08/18/16 12:19pm

Mumio

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A dear friend sent me this link, not sure if anyone has posted it elsewhere here. It's about the custom urn (not the one seen in the pics) this company made for Prince's remains. Wonder if they plan to show it at the tribute?

Eden Prairie business plays a role in Prince memorial

By Karla Wennerstrom editor@edenprairienews.com | Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:00 am

Representatives of the Eden Prairie business Foreverence were in Chanhassen’s Paisley Park Saturday for a private “Friends Memorial” tribute to Prince attended by family and friends.

Foreverence designs 3D-printed cremation urns, offering personalized design.






http://www.swnewsmedia.co...8f50f.html

[Edited 8/18/16 12:19pm]

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #431 posted 08/18/16 1:04pm

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Alan Leeds said:


"There were a handful of people from each era of Prince but this was not a reunion for every damn person who ever worked for him. It was mostly those from way back in the day...Andre, Dez, Craig Rice, Me, Gilbert Davison and a smattering of folks from his most recent years."



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Reply #432 posted 08/18/16 2:54pm

babynoz

Mumio said:

A dear friend sent me this link, not sure if anyone has posted it elsewhere here. It's about the custom urn (not the one seen in the pics) this company made for Prince's remains. Wonder if they plan to show it at the tribute?

Eden Prairie business plays a role in Prince memorial

By Karla Wennerstrom editor@edenprairienews.com | Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:00 am

Representatives of the Eden Prairie business Foreverence were in Chanhassen’s Paisley Park Saturday for a private “Friends Memorial” tribute to Prince attended by family and friends.

Foreverence designs 3D-printed cremation urns, offering personalized design.






http://www.swnewsmedia.co...8f50f.html

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Awww....thanks for sharing, Mumi. touched

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #433 posted 08/18/16 3:04pm

babynoz

rogifan said:

EnDoRpHn said:

If you listen to any of his interviews, whether from the 90s or since Prince's death, it's very clear that this smug pr!ck thinks he was smarter than Prince. Sort of a real-life Bart, if such a thing could exist.

Does anyone seriously think anyone will mourn him when he's gone? More like, who? (Oh yeah, some guy that wrote liner notes for one of Prince's albums, also managed the roadies for several of Prince's tours.)

Didn't he post some crap on Facebook after Prince played SNL in 2014? I remember reading it here. That performance blew me away. And I'm not the only one....do a Twitter search and you'll see a lot of people felt the same way.



Yep, I remember because I told him to eat his applesauce and go take a nap.

Everyone else has been very gracious with their comments about the memorial and don't feel the need to demean any of this other employees/associates.

What does "it was not for every damn body who ever worked for him" even mean?

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #434 posted 08/18/16 3:05pm

babynoz

IstenSzek said:

Alan Leeds said:


"There were a handful of people from each era of Prince but this was not a reunion for every damn person who ever worked for him. It was mostly those from way back in the day...Andre, Dez, Craig Rice, Me, Gilbert Davison and a smattering of folks from his most recent years."



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Stoppit.... lol

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Reply #435 posted 08/18/16 4:36pm

CherryMoon57

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On Shelby J.'s FB page earlier today "The legacy will Live On through ALL of US <3"

heart U Shelby (and Jill!)

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Reply #436 posted 08/18/16 6:07pm

Starrdust505

You know "it's nice" of them to throw us a bone by posting a few pictures, the memorial photos and and some video but I can't help thinking that they should of included us even in a small way in that memorial on Saturday (sigh), but hey there giving us a concert sad!!!!

Come now, isn't life a little better with a pair of good shoes? - Prince 1985
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Reply #437 posted 08/18/16 7:40pm

rogifan

Let's be honest....how many celebrities that die allow fans into private memorials? Seems to me The few that do are the exception not the norm. And as far as the memorial concert being too late...Freddie Mercury died in November 1991, his tribute concert didn't happen until April 1992.

US Bank stadium, where this concert is taking place, didn't even officially open until late July and there were already events planned for August. And once September rolls around Football season starts. I suppose the family could have tried to squeeze the concert in sometime in August but what if they were still lining up performers. It could be as simple as the date they choose was a date that all the performers they wanted could make it and it didn't conflict with the Vikings schedule. We don't know what the family is all going through but I'm going to guess they're not sitting around twiddling their thumbs looking for something to do.
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Reply #438 posted 08/18/16 7:59pm

morningsong

rogifan said:

Let's be honest....how many celebrities that die allow fans into private memorials? Seems to me The few that do are the exception not the norm. And as far as the memorial concert being too late...Freddie Mercury died in November 1991, his tribute concert didn't happen until April 1992. US Bank stadium, where this concert is taking place, didn't even officially open until late July and there were already events planned for August. And once September rolls around Football season starts. I suppose the family could have tried to squeeze the concert in sometime in August but what if they were still lining up performers. It could be as simple as the date they choose was a date that all the performers they wanted could make it and it didn't conflict with the Vikings schedule. We don't know what the family is all going through but I'm going to guess they're not sitting around twiddling their thumbs looking for something to do.



That's what I'm wondering? The 3 that get mentioned, damn near whole families' are connected to the business in some major way. Everybody elses regular families I don't remember big productions. Could be wrong.

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Reply #439 posted 08/18/16 8:31pm

rogifan

morningsong said:



rogifan said:


Let's be honest....how many celebrities that die allow fans into private memorials? Seems to me The few that do are the exception not the norm. And as far as the memorial concert being too late...Freddie Mercury died in November 1991, his tribute concert didn't happen until April 1992. US Bank stadium, where this concert is taking place, didn't even officially open until late July and there were already events planned for August. And once September rolls around Football season starts. I suppose the family could have tried to squeeze the concert in sometime in August but what if they were still lining up performers. It could be as simple as the date they choose was a date that all the performers they wanted could make it and it didn't conflict with the Vikings schedule. We don't know what the family is all going through but I'm going to guess they're not sitting around twiddling their thumbs looking for something to do.



That's what I'm wondering? The 3 that get mentioned, damn near whole families' are connected to the business in some major way. Everybody elses regular families I don't remember big productions. Could be wrong.


Did David Bowie have a public memorial? I didn't really follow his death much. I know Natalie Cole had a service but I don't think it was open to the public. I know sound like a broken record (and probably piss some people off lol ) but I firmly do not believe its Prince's family's responsibility to provide "closure" for his fans. I think this concert is a really nice gesture and hopefully it will help but at the end of the day we all gotta find our own closure in our own way. That's my believe anyway.
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Reply #440 posted 08/18/16 8:32pm

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babynoz said:

IstenSzek said:



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Stoppit.... lol


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Reply #441 posted 08/18/16 8:47pm

teach49

rogifan said:

morningsong said:



That's what I'm wondering? The 3 that get mentioned, damn near whole families' are connected to the business in some major way. Everybody elses regular families I don't remember big productions. Could be wrong.

Did David Bowie have a public memorial? I didn't really follow his death much. I know Natalie Cole had a service but I don't think it was open to the public. I know sound like a broken record (and probably piss some people off lol ) but I firmly do not believe its Prince's family's responsibility to provide "closure" for his fans. I think this concert is a really nice gesture and hopefully it will help but at the end of the day we all gotta find our own closure in our own way. That's my believe anyway.

I think Bowie's memorial was private, if I recall.

I agree with you and morningsong. P had a special relationship with his fans I realize, but I think it's a bit much for the family to be expected to do. And...P left a bit of a mess. Not every artist has a compound like PP that's in probate and vaults of unpubished music. I can't imagine what Tyka is going through. It's got to be overwhelming.

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Reply #442 posted 08/18/16 9:27pm

wavesofbliss

teach49 said:

rogifan said:

morningsong said: Did David Bowie have a public memorial? I didn't really follow his death much. I know Natalie Cole had a service but I don't think it was open to the public. I know sound like a broken record (and probably piss some people off lol ) but I firmly do not believe its Prince's family's responsibility to provide "closure" for his fans. I think this concert is a really nice gesture and hopefully it will help but at the end of the day we all gotta find our own closure in our own way. That's my believe anyway.

I think Bowie's memorial was private, if I recall.

I agree with you and morningsong. P had a special relationship with his fans I realize, but I think it's a bit much for the family to be expected to do. And...P left a bit of a mess. Not every artist has a compound like PP that's in probate and vaults of unpubished music. I can't imagine what Tyka is going through. It's got to be overwhelming.

i agree with all 3 of you. they don't owe us anything and they aren't a musical dynasty so why all the bitching from some people.

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i hope they threw gaga's name in just to mess with people. i swear if she is anywhere near bank stadium you'll see me on the news!! mad

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Reply #443 posted 08/18/16 9:32pm

LuxLove

wavesofbliss said:

teach49 said:

I think Bowie's memorial was private, if I recall.

I agree with you and morningsong. P had a special relationship with his fans I realize, but I think it's a bit much for the family to be expected to do. And...P left a bit of a mess. Not every artist has a compound like PP that's in probate and vaults of unpubished music. I can't imagine what Tyka is going through. It's got to be overwhelming.

i agree with all 3 of you. they don't owe us anything and they aren't a musical dynasty so why all the bitching from some people.

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i hope they threw gaga's name in just to mess with people. i swear if she is anywhere near bank stadium you'll see me on the news!! mad


I agree with this too. Can't believe what's happening on this forum eek

Feel the same about Gaga. I can't even bare to think about it fuse

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Reply #444 posted 08/18/16 10:16pm

rap

Maya or Nandy McClean taking a selfie at the memorial - what a class act!

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Reply #445 posted 08/19/16 5:47am

wavesofbliss

rap said:

Maya or Nandy McClean taking a selfie at the memorial - what a class act!

they're australian. lol

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Reply #446 posted 08/19/16 5:48am

Starrdust505

I agree with you all, just caught up in my own feelings. The family doesn't owe us anything there dealing with enough crap nuts already shake

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Reply #447 posted 08/19/16 6:35am

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wavesofbliss said:

teach49 said:

I think Bowie's memorial was private, if I recall.

I agree with you and morningsong. P had a special relationship with his fans I realize, but I think it's a bit much for the family to be expected to do. And...P left a bit of a mess. Not every artist has a compound like PP that's in probate and vaults of unpubished music. I can't imagine what Tyka is going through. It's got to be overwhelming.

i agree with all 3 of you. they don't owe us anything and they aren't a musical dynasty so why all the bitching from some people.

++

i hope they threw gaga's name in just to mess with people. i swear if she is anywhere near bank stadium you'll see me on the news!! mad

+1

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Reply #448 posted 08/19/16 5:58pm

rap

LuxLove said:

rogifan said:

EnDoRpHn said: Didn't he post some crap on Facebook after Prince played SNL in 2014? I remember reading it here. That performance blew me away. And I'm not the only one....do a Twitter search and you'll see a lot of people felt the same way.


Yes! Remember it was like "less is more" & something about Prince having agendas. Just sounds bitter and twisted. Didn't he say he wanted to manage the vault like he'd done for James Brown?

Well he knew Prince better than anyone else here so pressumably he knew what he's talking about!!

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