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Reply #180 posted 07/28/16 8:07pm

icequeen78

Wannabeyourlover1 said:

I find it hard to believe Prince would not want the world to know he had a son. He wanted children so bad, according to all the articles we have read. I just find it hard to believe that if he did have a son, he wouldn't have had his son at Paisley Park all of the time, teaching him the music that made him so famous. And I find it hard to believe that a mother would not want her son to have a loving relationship with his father, especially if it was Prince. Just doesn't sound true.


Prince himself said that if he had a child he would not want the world to know the child's gender , name , birth day or anything. That would be the child's decision
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Reply #181 posted 07/28/16 8:13pm

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Yep! and why would he have been so upset over losing a child with Mayte (to the point of it breaking up their marriage) if he already had a child/children to begin with. Makes no sense.

So are you saying you cant grieve deeply over one child's death because you have one already? Huh?

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Reply #182 posted 07/28/16 8:15pm

laytonian

icequeen78 said:

Wannabeyourlover1 said:

I find it hard to believe Prince would not want the world to know he had a son. He wanted children so bad, according to all the articles we have read. I just find it hard to believe that if he did have a son, he wouldn't have had his son at Paisley Park all of the time, teaching him the music that made him so famous. And I find it hard to believe that a mother would not want her son to have a loving relationship with his father, especially if it was Prince. Just doesn't sound true.

Prince himself said that if he had a child he would not want the world to know the child's gender , name , birth day or anything. That would be the child's decision

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But not if a legal document said that everything needed to be kept quiet, or else lose whatever income was coming in.

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Reply #183 posted 07/28/16 8:15pm

icequeen78

LBrent said:

Ok.

I saw a video about this guy a couple of weeks ago. I blew it off at the time, especially since the person reporting it was so obnoxious and like he was trying to cause a media surge. Besides, I didn't think the "son" looked anything like P.

Whatever will happen will happen, I guess.


Uh no you didnt. You're talking about capricio Caesar and both he and his mother have said they're just fans...


This claimant has never come publicly forward and went straight to heir hunters or whatever that dna company was... he is also from Minneapolis... capricio is from Texas
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Reply #184 posted 07/28/16 8:26pm

icequeen78

You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true


How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take
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Reply #185 posted 07/28/16 8:29pm

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icequeen78 said:

You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take

ugh. luckily she has a beautiful daughter now and seems to be a great mom, so if this is true, i don't think/hope it won't affect her too much.

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Reply #186 posted 07/28/16 8:34pm

icequeen78

OnlyNDaUsa said:



Astasheiks said:




CAL3 said:


Consider the source though - the Santa Monica Observer is the rag that was pushing the whole "HIV-positive" angle for weeks and weeks. I'm taking this "news" with a grain of salt for now. Plus, "independent genetic testing" - so, that's not exactly official it seems...







Well they owned up to in this article:



"Our source also says that the Santa Monica company has sequenced the Artists entire genome. " you can recover a person's entire medical history from there Genime. He definitely did not have HIV/AIDS" she told us." In the interest of disclosure this contradicts an article written by my colleague, Kristen Peach."



http://www.smobserved.com/story/2016/07/28/news/paternity-test-proves-that-prince-rogers-nelson-left-a-son/1680.html


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genome? Ok he was short so what leave it alone... SMH



Wow I had to quote this piece of ignorance lol
Genome is the genetic information contained in the cells... now I'm smh at you lol .... gnome and genome are two different things... log off sometimes...read ...
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Reply #187 posted 07/28/16 8:45pm

selah

icequeen78 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:



Astasheiks said:




CAL3 said:


Consider the source though - the Santa Monica Observer is the rag that was pushing the whole "HIV-positive" angle for weeks and weeks. I'm taking this "news" with a grain

genome? Ok he was short so what leave it alone... SMH



Wow I had to quote this piece of ignorance lol
Genome is the genetic information contained in the cells... now I'm smh at you lol .... gnome and genome are two different things... log off sometimes...read ...


..actually I thought they were being tongue in cheek boxed
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Reply #188 posted 07/28/16 8:57pm

laytonian

icequeen78 said:

You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take

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I've researched Pfeiffer. It's tied to the father, particularly those 35+ at conception (which is the category Prince fell into in early 1996). We women are born with all the eggs we will ever have; males' sperm mutates hundreds of times as their sperm is regenerated throughout their lives. The mutation

Further, the risk of having another child with Pfeiffer syndrome is 50%. That may account for the later miscarriage.

Here's one of the best articles I've found: https://www.psychologytod...shelf-life

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Reply #189 posted 07/28/16 9:05pm

icequeen78

endiadj said:



icequeen78 said:


You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take

ugh. luckily she has a beautiful daughter now and seems to be a great mom, so if this is true, i don't think/hope it won't affect her too much.




Well it would nullify her claim as being the only woman to have a child for Prince.... that would certainly dull that wdge... on the other hand it might cause folks to wonder if there was some reproductive issues she suffers from... as it would take all the heat (and derision) off prince. If this is true I would pay some attention to her for once... to see how she deals...
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Reply #190 posted 07/28/16 9:09pm

icequeen78

laytonian said:



icequeen78 said:


You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take

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I've researched Pfeiffer. It's tied to the father, particularly those 35+ at conception (which is the category Prince fell into in early 1996). We women are born with all the eggs we will ever have; males' sperm mutates hundreds of times as their sperm is regenerated throughout their lives. The mutation


Further, the risk of having another child with Pfeiffer syndrome is 50%. That may account for the later miscarriage.


Here's one of the best articles I've found: https://www.psychologytod...shelf-life


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You really quoted psychology today? Imma need you to come with a peer reviewed journal or something.. and if this is true then it might still reflect badly on her as he would have living issue that if free from genetic defect would point to a womb issue with her.. perhaps her body didn't produce enough progesterone or something else. She has a big head so it could be on her side as well. We don't know now but maybe in the future we will. She also has never had a biological child. Not the one she got on twitter... gia.. who is a smiley little girl who needs all of her mother's attention...
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Reply #191 posted 07/28/16 9:23pm

ForeverPaisley

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No - this is NOT the guy being mooted now as P's son.

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This one - Carlin something - is in jail and the DNA did not match. His claim has been rejected.

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The other one whose pics have been shown has also been rejected because he was legally adopted and therefore has no claim.

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The one being mentioned in this article is the one we all heard about right at the outset (or at least I did). Heir Hunters spoke of him VERY early on, saying his story stacked up and that they were pretty convinced he was P's son. They also said he was very low-key and not interested in any publicity - which, it appears, he still isn't.

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I wouldn't be surprised to find that P did know about him; that there was some sort of understanding / financial arrangement and that the documents mentioned that 'could have an effect on heirship' pertain to this arrangement.

The photo posted above is NOT Carlin.

The Judge has not rejected Estabon's (the adopted child) Affidavit of Heirship. Bremer Trust filed papers stating Estabon does not meet the requirements for DNA testing. The Judge has not ruled on that issue as of this date. It remains to be seen whether the Judge will permit DNA testing.for Estabon.

I was just about to comment that this is not Carlin...Carlin is still in jail and doesn't even look like a possible heir. Imagine carrying around that garbage - from whomever told him or his own suspicions his whole life and been like..nah bruh. lol

In the photo...is that the Estabon you are referring to?

Not sure how a possible 'adopted' son, would have more right than actual blood line family members - even some of the distant ones that were attempting to stake claim. There better be some actual documents backing that up.

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Reply #192 posted 07/28/16 9:27pm

ForeverPaisley

laytonian said:

Dibblekins said:



I'm sure it is, you know...There was a whole thread devoted to him - and he looked very different from the front! biggrin
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This article says that the pic. shown here is Carlin Williams..?

http://www.nairadays.com/tag/carlin-q-williams/

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But, yes you're quite right about Estabon (the adopted one) - my apologies. It'll be interesting to hear what the judge has to say about it.

[Edited 7/28/16 19:00pm]

[Edited 7/28/16 19:06pm]

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It may say so, but it's obviously not. Look at Carlin Q Williams' images on Google. He looks nothing like that man....in ANY of his many mugshots. And don't forget that Williams' DNA did NOT match Prince's.

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Reply #193 posted 07/28/16 9:30pm

ForeverPaisley

icequeen78 said:

You know what would really be interesting to me ..if this were true How would mayte respond to this? Knowing that she was NOT the first person to have a child for Prince and if this man has no genetic defect then it would also point to her as a carrier for pfeiffer syndrome as it wouldn't necessarily be Prince as he would have a living child. That might be a lot for her to take

I think she may know regarding genetics, as her daughter is adopted, I assumed that was why.

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Reply #194 posted 07/28/16 9:38pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Yep! and why would he have been so upset over losing a child with Mayte (to the point of it breaking up their marriage) if he already had a child/children to begin with. Makes no sense.

So are you saying you cant grieve deeply over one child's death because you have one already? Huh?

i don't know about this kid but i agree with the first poster, if Prince was so attached to the idea of being a father, he would have been part of the kids life, more than likely. Hard to say though, what if he didn't know, didn't plan on the kid. It's be a little different I think.

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Reply #195 posted 07/28/16 9:53pm

ForeverPaisley

Plus...if for example, he was contacted during a time when he was falling under the Jdub spell (please don't take offense if anyone is in here), having a child out of wedlock would seriously cramp on that wouldn't it? IF he was at all aware, it would be one of the reasons I could see him keeping this on the D.L.

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