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Reply #30 posted 05/24/16 4:38pm

rocmanpro

I love the intro. I think Prince was spot on about man decision to further separate from GOD. If you look at how we started (Life) and how it's going (Life), GOD is like a second cousin to most nowadays.

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Reply #31 posted 05/24/16 5:06pm

leadline

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Prince was heavy into metaphysics during this stage, and continued to be until the end. This song is a reflection of many metaphysical concepts. Personally I love the song.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #32 posted 05/24/16 5:07pm

babynoz

1725topp said:

PeteSilas said:

he once said something about "god in everything" so in that way, he had the basic belief of pretty much every tribal society the world over. Christians would call that "heathenism".

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I'm a Christian, I've read the Bible, the Quran, the Tanakh, The Analects of Confucius, The Holy Book of Tao, and many other religious and scientific doctrines, and I wouldn't call the notion of seeing "God in everything" as "heathenism."



Me too but Pete may be referring to fundamentalists christians who think everything is heathenism. Unfortunately they are the most vocal and visible and because of them most people think all christians are intolerant and bigoted.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #33 posted 05/24/16 5:09pm

1725topp

PeteSilas said:

1725topp said:

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I'm a Christian, I've read the Bible, the Quran, the Tanakh, The Analects of Confucius, The Holy Book of Tao, and many other religious and scientific doctrines, and I wouldn't call the notion of seeing "God in everything" as "heathenism."

not everyone thinks like you then, what is called animism is what the christians would call savage. I'm indian, from what i know about our magic and our spiritual life, it's radically different from christianity and they did everything they could to destroy every remnant of our knowledge and tradition because of it.

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You are correct that people calling themselves "Christians" travelled the earth destroying other cultures in the name of "Christianity." However, in the actual text, Jesus states that "everyone who calls my name will not be of me," which is why he later continues to separate the "goats from the sheep," showing that those who love others will be "of him" and those who harm others "will not be of him." What I'm referencing is found in Matthew 25.

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This first point of mine leads to my larger second point that in most cases there are people who call themselves Christians who are actually practicing Christendom, which is a cultural perversion of Christianity. Understanding that Christianity started in the Middle-East and spread West, unfortunately, many Europeans began infusing Christianity with white supremacy to justify the enslavement and murder of people of color. As such, the act of enslaving anyone in the name of Jesus is an act of Christendom not Christianity. As an African American, one of my favorite quotes is from an African poet who states, "Let me define Christianity: rape, murder, colonization, and enslavement." And, while I understand that sentiment, I also understand that there is a difference between what the actual texts, especially the original Hebrew and Greek texts, teach and what men have done to pervert those texts to justify their mistreatment of others.

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Finally, yes, you and I more than likely have different beliefs of what's right and what's wrong. Though, I would bet, after teaching comparative lit for so long, that I can find more similarities to our beliefs than differences. Yet, based on the actual texts, Jesus didn't teach anyone to kill, jail, enslave, or deny someone's political rights because they choose not to follow Him. Jesus taught that there are two commandments. One, love God above all else. Two, love your neighbor as you love yourself. We might not believe the same things, but the Jesus that I've studied has never taught me to harm or oppress anyone because that person has a different belief. So, those people of whom you speak are not Christians because none of their words or actions reflects Jesus. Of course, the real problem is having more informed Christians to refute these practitioners of Christendom so that the world can know what Christian texts actually teach. Unfortunately, most people don't want to read and think for themselves; they just want to be led and feel safe in the bowels of a crowd, which allows practitioners of Christendom to convince the world that they are Christians.

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Reply #34 posted 05/24/16 5:16pm

1725topp

babynoz said:

1725topp said:

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I'm a Christian, I've read the Bible, the Quran, the Tanakh, The Analects of Confucius, The Holy Book of Tao, and many other religious and scientific doctrines, and I wouldn't call the notion of seeing "God in everything" as "heathenism."



Me too but Pete may be referring to fundamentalists christians who think everything is heathenism. Unfortunately they are the most vocal and visible and because of them most people think all christians are intolerant and bigoted.

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Yes, I agree, which is why, when I can, I try to raise the notion of the difference between Christianity and Christendom. Of course, as I stated later to Pete, I also think that folks like me and you have somewhat of a responsibility to engage those practitioners of Christendom in a way that forces them to question if they are living by the original text or by what they've only heard. I tell my church members all the time that the greatest enemy of Christianity are people who claim to be Christian and then do everything that Jesus asks us not to do, especially when it comes to loving our fellowman.

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Reply #35 posted 05/24/16 5:29pm

babynoz

1725topp said:

babynoz said:



Me too but Pete may be referring to fundamentalists christians who think everything is heathenism. Unfortunately they are the most vocal and visible and because of them most people think all christians are intolerant and bigoted.

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Yes, I agree, which is why, when I can, I try to raise the notion of the difference between Christianity and Christendom. Of course, as I stated later to Pete, I also think that folks like me and you have somewhat of a responsibility to engage those practitioners of Christendom in a way that forces them to question if they are living by the original text or by what they've only heard. I tell my church members all the time that the greatest enemy of Christianity are people who claim to be Christian and then do everything that Jesus asks us not to do, especially when it comes to loving our fellowman.



Lordhammercy you must have been a fly on my wall who overheard so many of my conversations because I stay doing battle with fundies. Some of them think I'm the head heathen in charge. lol

The worst one I had was one at work that I named Christian Taliban.

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Reply #36 posted 05/24/16 5:37pm

1725topp

babynoz said:

1725topp said:

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Yes, I agree, which is why, when I can, I try to raise the notion of the difference between Christianity and Christendom. Of course, as I stated later to Pete, I also think that folks like me and you have somewhat of a responsibility to engage those practitioners of Christendom in a way that forces them to question if they are living by the original text or by what they've only heard. I tell my church members all the time that the greatest enemy of Christianity are people who claim to be Christian and then do everything that Jesus asks us not to do, especially when it comes to loving our fellowman.



Lordhammercy you must have been a fly on my wall who overheard so many of my conversations because I stay doing battle with fundies. Some of them think I'm the head heathen in charge. lol

The worst one I had was one at work that I named Christian Taliban.

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Yes, and what's funny/sad is that they don't even see how oppressive they are and how similar they are to the very people they try to denounce. I'm still amazed how many people can hurt others "in the name of Jesus." I guess that fundamentalist don't realize that reading thoroughly is fundamental. :^)

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Reply #37 posted 05/24/16 5:52pm

babynoz

1725topp said:

babynoz said:



Lordhammercy you must have been a fly on my wall who overheard so many of my conversations because I stay doing battle with fundies. Some of them think I'm the head heathen in charge. lol

The worst one I had was one at work that I named Christian Taliban.

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Yes, and what's funny/sad is that they don't even see how oppressive they are and how similar they are to the very people they try to denounce. I'm still amazed how many people can hurt others "in the name of Jesus." I guess that fundamentalist don't realize that reading thoroughly is fundamental. :^)



Agreed.

Many of them don't even read, they just take the word of the pastor or even worse, some random televangelist. I get on them for being too lazy to read, study, meditate and discern for themselves.

It pisses me off so much because the westboro/falwell/benny hinn types are the ones everybody pays attention to and thinks they represent all of Christendom. disbelief

For example, I had to cuss a few fundies out back when Shrub suggested that he was on a mission from God regarding Iraq. Cussing so-called fellow believers isn't very pious of me but that's something me and Jesus are still working on. lol

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #38 posted 05/24/16 5:58pm

1725topp

babynoz said:

1725topp said:

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Yes, and what's funny/sad is that they don't even see how oppressive they are and how similar they are to the very people they try to denounce. I'm still amazed how many people can hurt others "in the name of Jesus." I guess that fundamentalist don't realize that reading thoroughly is fundamental. :^)



Agreed.

Many of them don't even read, they just take the word of the pastor or even worse, some random televangelist. I get on them for being too lazy to read, study, meditate and discern for themselves.

It pisses me off so much because the westboro/falwell/benny hinn types are the ones everybody pays attention to and thinks they represent all of Christendom. disbelief

For example, I had to cuss a few fundies out back when Shrub suggested that he was on a mission from God regarding Iraq. Cussing so-called fellow believers isn't very pious of me but that's something me and Jesus are still working on. lol

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Paul said we should be "wise and gentle" when engaging them fools...err I mean our fellow brothers and sisters. As you can see, I'm still working on that myself. :^) Take care.

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Reply #39 posted 05/24/16 6:06pm

babynoz

1725topp said:

babynoz said:



Agreed.

Many of them don't even read, they just take the word of the pastor or even worse, some random televangelist. I get on them for being too lazy to read, study, meditate and discern for themselves.

It pisses me off so much because the westboro/falwell/benny hinn types are the ones everybody pays attention to and thinks they represent all of Christendom. disbelief

For example, I had to cuss a few fundies out back when Shrub suggested that he was on a mission from God regarding Iraq. Cussing so-called fellow believers isn't very pious of me but that's something me and Jesus are still working on. lol

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Paul said we should be "wise and gentle" when engaging them fools...err I mean our fellow brothers and sisters. As you can see, I'm still working on that myself. :^) Take care.



falloff

Thanks, you take care too.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #40 posted 05/24/16 6:08pm

babynoz

leadline said:

Prince was heavy into metaphysics during this stage, and continued to be until the end. This song is a reflection of many metaphysical concepts. Personally I love the song.



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Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #41 posted 05/24/16 6:12pm

Se7en

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It's not that far out there at all.

Think about what we encounter every single day. News reports about murders, rapes, police brutality. Road rage, over traffic or a parking spot. Porn on our mobile devices. Even seemingly "innocent" stuff like violence on TV and flirting with a coworker.

All of these things, one by one, chip away at our sense of right or wrong and take us away from God's plan.

Now, Prince talking about earthquakes and natural disasters, nothing we can do about those!
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Reply #42 posted 05/24/16 6:43pm

benni

This statement and the song are filled with truth.

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I love finding songs that lead to other songs, too. This opening, in which he states, "God being centrifugal in nature, Freedom was the CAUSE and choice was the EFFECT," led me to this song:

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"If had the chance to do it all again
I wouldn't change a thing, except my next of kin
There's something on the tip of my tongue
Got a taste for sin
If you stamp your passport full of regret
You have nothing to remember but a lot to forget
Leave no enemies, leave no debt, no!

Made in the image of cause and effect
To no other man am I the subject
I am what i am because & effect
Cause and effect, cause and effect yeah!

(hey, hey, hey)

If i could talk to myself back then right now
I'd say 'son you might wanna, stick around
Something amazing is about to go down'
If i could leave myself just one little note
One that husbands and fathers wrote
It say 'you need to be a superstar or grow up,
but not both, no!

Made in the image of cause and effect
To no other man am I the subject
I am what i am because & effect
Cause and effect, cause and effect yeah!

(hey, hey, hey)

solo

(cause and effect, ladies and gentlemen)
(rock)

I am here. where are you?
Haha!!

Don't let them say your paper's worth more than gold
I see a generation lay down before they get old
And getting endlessly sold

(You need compassion) for one another
(compassion) righter than wrong
that's what needs to be at the heart of every past
and future soul song

Made in the image of cause and effect
To no other man am I the subject
I am what i am because & effect
Cause and effect, cause and effect yeah!

(hey, hey, hey)

look at y'all. brains splattered
all over, moneyapolis"

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Reply #43 posted 05/24/16 7:31pm

wonderboy

At the time I thought it sounded like a bunch of crap that would come from Larry G. JW thrive on confusion and that only certain people can understand the true meaning of scripture.
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Reply #44 posted 05/25/16 12:01am

PeteSilas

Prince was correct about the influence of the things going in your senses. It goes way past tv, it goes to the people you allow around you. Some people bring you up, some bring you down. You do have a choice about those things.

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Reply #45 posted 05/25/16 12:13am

TrivialPursuit

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wonderboy said:

At the time I thought it sounded like a bunch of crap that would come from Larry G. JW thrive on confusion and that only certain people can understand the true meaning of scripture.

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While I agree about the JW thing, for me it was more political and social, not religious (despite the references). It was an ideology, and a way of thinking that, frankly, Prince never strayed far from. For the last 15 years, he's stuck to a lot of that stuff. And hey, if it works for him, kudos.

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One part that sticks out for me: "In the name of democracy, supreme power is vested un2 the people in this insane state instead of God. A future re-created, 2 b ruled by man, is one of isolation and despair." - The government rules by fear and intimidation, and people (without any questioning) adhere to that fear. It's an insane state to live in - of constant fear. People are compartmentalized in their lives - almost a colonized mind. How many times have you heard someone say they don't drink and drive because they "don't want to be arrested for a DUI", opposed to their own moral code taking over and saying, "I don't want to possibly hurt anyone"?

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"The human is now a reflection of their choice. They could have simply chose not 2 choose." - People are reflective of that fear factor. All over NY I see "If you see something, say something", or "click it or you'll get a ticket". It's a fucking constant state of paranoia that the state is creating. It's insane. I live by something similar to the sentiment of not choosing - I choose to not be part of the violent government process that locks people up, fines them (steals their money), and taxes them to pay for wars (taxation is theft). Freedom of choice doesn't mean you have to choose something. You can choose nothing. I live my life, as best I can, so that the government is rendered as useless as possible. I think Prince did that too. He was happy, and had no involvement in government, yet understood the social impact of government interference in humanity. I could go on, but I won't.

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In short, I like a lot of the things he said in "The One". But it took me a while to appreciate it.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #46 posted 05/25/16 12:39am

PeteSilas

TrivialPursuit said:

wonderboy said:

At the time I thought it sounded like a bunch of crap that would come from Larry G. JW thrive on confusion and that only certain people can understand the true meaning of scripture.

.

While I agree about the JW thing, for me it was more political and social, not religious (despite the references). It was an ideology, and a way of thinking that, frankly, Prince never strayed far from. For the last 15 years, he's stuck to a lot of that stuff. And hey, if it works for him, kudos.

.

One part that sticks out for me: "In the name of democracy, supreme power is vested un2 the people in this insane state instead of God. A future re-created, 2 b ruled by man, is one of isolation and despair." - The government rules by fear and intimidation, and people (without any questioning) adhere to that fear. It's an insane state to live in - of constant fear. People are compartmentalized in their lives - almost a colonized mind. How many times have you heard someone say they don't drink and drive because they "don't want to be arrested for a DUI", opposed to their own moral code taking over and saying, "I don't want to possibly hurt anyone"?

'

"The human is now a reflection of their choice. They could have simply chose not 2 choose." - People are reflective of that fear factor. All over NY I see "If you see something, say something", or "click it or you'll get a ticket". It's a fucking constant state of paranoia that the state is creating. It's insane. I live by something similar to the sentiment of not choosing - I choose to not be part of the violent government process that locks people up, fines them (steals their money), and taxes them to pay for wars (taxation is theft). Freedom of choice doesn't mean you have to choose something. You can choose nothing. I live my life, as best I can, so that the government is rendered as useless as possible. I think Prince did that too. He was happy, and had no involvement in government, yet understood the social impact of government interference in humanity. I could go on, but I won't.

.

In short, I like a lot of the things he said in "The One". But it took me a while to appreciate it.

I'm on the same page with you, just trying to be autonomous as possible. I really don't know if you can do that in this society. I know you certainly can do so much living inside of a society but even if you veer way off and live out in the middle of nowhere it's no guarantee that you'll be left alone. I've thought about it a lot, this government is subtly oppressive and controlling as hell. People actually think we're free. So, do i live on an Indian Reservation? Buy a plot of land or just leave the country. No one gets away from the misery of our culture, we think because we have tons of cool toys and a little bit of money and ain't starving that all is good. Well, if that were the case, people would be nicer to each other, in traffic, with their families and friends and they wouldn't pill pop, drink, smoke themselves to an early death. gotta be a better place on the planet. Never will understand why certain segments of our country even stay here really.

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Reply #47 posted 05/25/16 12:40am

KingSausage

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It's not just the U.S. The whole world is a shitshow. Humanity is a shitshow.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
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Reply #48 posted 05/25/16 12:44am

PeteSilas

KingSausage said:

It's not just the U.S. The whole world is a shitshow. Humanity is a shitshow.

ya, the older I get the more this race breaks ol pete's heart. But gotta be somewhere you can go. gotta be.

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Reply #49 posted 05/25/16 12:58am

TheEnglishGent

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emesem said:

Came across the full introduction to "One Song" on the interwebs.

JFC..dude was out of his gord......This is Philip K Dick level stuff here:

1999... and the illusion continues. One begs 2 ask -
"when will it end?"

Unnatural disasters happen seemingly every week. Train crashes, shootings, nuclear accidents; is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity? Very few of mankind's creations r designed 2 make u feel good, unless u get pleasure from seeing the human body desecrated by guns, explosions, fights, and any other things these so-called "artists" create. In the name of freedom, many have used art as a means 2 destroy the human mind. As an excuse 2 continue we hear "Art reflects society". How many times has this lie been repeated: "creations r not real", they say and yet any one of these people can call 2 mind images and complete scenes of horror in graphic detail. They will carry these so-called "unreal" creations around with them 4 the rest of their lives. These images r now a part of their being. In the name of RECREATION these people in fact r re-creating themselves in their own images.
SOCIETY THEN REFLECTS ART.

In man's decision 2 further separate from God, his re-creation of himself leaves him in a dysfunctional state of confusion. The mind becomes a burial ground 4 dead waste. Isolated from the wholeness of God, Earth and his fellow brothers and sisters, this man seeks solace in activities he thinks will stimulate his mind. He begins downloading in2 his brain a series of manmade creations designed 2 destroy it. All manmade creations originate from one of 2 sources: the Tree of Knowledge or the Tree of Life. One of these trees contained deadly fruit, the other - Fruit of Everlasting Life. The one who disregards this fact recreates himself and his kind in2 extinction.

U r reading these words on a machine created by man. As u read, u hear a voice speaking 2 u the words that u perceive. They make sense 2 u because u understand (stand under) the SPELLing. The words r what binds this SPELL 2 ur illusion. When u hear the truth, like a memory - u recognize it and this recognition releases u from ALL illusion. Many languages r brilliant in their attempt 2 CONfuse u. CON meaning: against, fuse meaning: 2gether. Words and their SPELLbinding illusions have the power 2 keep man separate from God. U were born in an all-knowing state of mind. The first words spoken 2 u begin the SPELL. The words come from one of 2 sources: the Tree of Knowledge or the Tree of Life. In ignorance or simply lack of respect 4 God, many use words that CONfuse the minds of humans and turn them in2 projections of their own illusions. Because of this fact, many people grow up and blindly assume their pre-selected role under a dictatorship without even being aware of it. When asked what they r doing here on earth, most will answer with statements that do not reflect their natural God-given desires. This creates a pyramid-like structure with the dictator on top, and each level under it knowing less and less. Upon reaching the bottom level - which is where the majority is, u will find chaos, disorder, and illusion. With ILL as its prefix, ILLusion is a state of insanity. In the name of democracy, supreme power is vested un2 the people in this insane state instead of God. A future re-created, 2 b ruled by man, is one of isolation and despair. Returning the leadership back in2 God will allow mankind 2 achieve its original collective goal which is union with God. Ideas contrary 2 this goal should not b blamed or persecuted - just simply ignored. They originated when man first chose 2 ignore God's rule. Simply put - in the beginning, the Human was made perfect in God's image. They had no need 4 knowledge. They were also given freedom of choice. The Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life r reflections of this freedom. The human is now a reflection of their choice. They could have simply chose not 2 choose. God being centrifugal in nature, freedom was the CAUSE and choice was the EFFECT. In knowing their perfection made in God's image, there was no need 2 choose. In fact, their were NO NEEDS. There was only love in an all-knowing state b4 the fall. The worst thing u can do is give up ur God-given right 2 choose. 4 in it - u can choose not 2 choose. Therein is the final judgement. The illusion ceases and u awaken from ur dream. Now the healing begins...

With an all-knowing mind, made in God's image u can create as ur Creator - God intended. With love, honor and respect 4 every living thing in the universe. Separation ceases, and we all become One Being singing the One song.

The only bonkers thing I see is the lack of paragraphs!

RIP sad
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Reply #50 posted 05/25/16 4:06am

NorthC

PeteSilas said:



KingSausage said:


It's not just the U.S. The whole world is a shitshow. Humanity is a shitshow.

ya, the older I get the more this race breaks ol pete's heart. But gotta be somewhere you can go. gotta be.


Still trying to find your way back home? Me too... wink
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Reply #51 posted 05/25/16 4:08am

McD

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A Prince fan can only follow the music. Not his mental plane. Which was full of broken bottles and hypocrisy.

This is someone who started to break up words and act according to their component parts. Who believed in fairy tales and chemtrails.

Watch that shameful Tavis Smiley 2009 interview. Ignore if you can how good he looks and how well he speaks. He might be as far in appearance from the last decade of Bobby Fischer, but his mindless, racist ranting is just as bad. And Smiley is horrifyingly complicit in the whole thing. The moment he ignores a plethora of barking mad and offensive BS to say *his* fans need to know why the man espousing theocratic order isn't a supporter of Obama truly beggars belief.

The tragedy for Prince is he had too many Tavis Smileys in his life and not enough Kevin Smiths.
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Reply #52 posted 05/25/16 8:10am

babynoz

McD said:

A Prince fan can only follow the music. Not his mental plane. Which was full of broken bottles and hypocrisy. This is someone who started to break up words and act according to their component parts. Who believed in fairy tales and chemtrails. Watch that shameful Tavis Smiley 2009 interview. Ignore if you can how good he looks and how well he speaks. He might be as far in appearance from the last decade of Bobby Fischer, but his mindless, racist ranting is just as bad. And Smiley is horrifyingly complicit in the whole thing. The moment he ignores a plethora of barking mad and offensive BS to say *his* fans need to know why the man espousing theocratic order isn't a supporter of Obama truly beggars belief. The tragedy for Prince is he had too many Tavis Smileys in his life and not enough Kevin Smiths.



I'm looking forward to the day when people like you stop trying to speak for others... rolleyes

Personally, his mental plane resonates with mine the vast majority of the time so I have no problem following his thoughts.

FYI, if you watched Kevin Smith's new video he expresses a lot of regret about his attitude toward Prince back then.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #53 posted 05/25/16 8:14am

babynoz

TheEnglishGent said:

emesem said:

Came across the full introduction to "One Song" on the interwebs.

JFC..dude was out of his gord......This is Philip K Dick level stuff here:

1999... and the illusion continues. One begs 2 ask -
"when will it end?"

Unnatural disasters happen seemingly every week. Train crashes, shootings, nuclear accidents; is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity? Very few of mankind's creations r designed 2 make u feel good, unless u get pleasure from seeing the human body desecrated by guns, explosions, fights, and any other things these so-called "artists" create. In the name of freedom, many have used art as a means 2 destroy the human mind. As an excuse 2 continue we hear "Art reflects society". How many times has this lie been repeated: "creations r not real", they say and yet any one of these people can call 2 mind images and complete scenes of horror in graphic detail. They will carry these so-called "unreal" creations around with them 4 the rest of their lives. These images r now a part of their being. In the name of RECREATION these people in fact r re-creating themselves in their own images.
SOCIETY THEN REFLECTS ART.

In man's decision 2 further separate from God, his re-creation of himself leaves him in a dysfunctional state of confusion. The mind becomes a burial ground 4 dead waste. Isolated from the wholeness of God, Earth and his fellow brothers and sisters, this man seeks solace in activities he thinks will stimulate his mind. He begins downloading in2 his brain a series of manmade creations designed 2 destroy it. All manmade creations originate from one of 2 sources: the Tree of Knowledge or the Tree of Life. One of these trees contained deadly fruit, the other - Fruit of Everlasting Life. The one who disregards this fact recreates himself and his kind in2 extinction.

U r reading these words on a machine created by man. As u read, u hear a voice speaking 2 u the words that u perceive. They make sense 2 u because u understand (stand under) the SPELLing. The words r what binds this SPELL 2 ur illusion. When u hear the truth, like a memory - u recognize it and this recognition releases u from ALL illusion. Many languages r brilliant in their attempt 2 CONfuse u. CON meaning: against, fuse meaning: 2gether. Words and their SPELLbinding illusions have the power 2 keep man separate from God. U were born in an all-knowing state of mind. The first words spoken 2 u begin the SPELL. The words come from one of 2 sources: the Tree of Knowledge or the Tree of Life. In ignorance or simply lack of respect 4 God, many use words that CONfuse the minds of humans and turn them in2 projections of their own illusions. Because of this fact, many people grow up and blindly assume their pre-selected role under a dictatorship without even being aware of it. When asked what they r doing here on earth, most will answer with statements that do not reflect their natural God-given desires. This creates a pyramid-like structure with the dictator on top, and each level under it knowing less and less. Upon reaching the bottom level - which is where the majority is, u will find chaos, disorder, and illusion. With ILL as its prefix, ILLusion is a state of insanity. In the name of democracy, supreme power is vested un2 the people in this insane state instead of God. A future re-created, 2 b ruled by man, is one of isolation and despair. Returning the leadership back in2 God will allow mankind 2 achieve its original collective goal which is union with God. Ideas contrary 2 this goal should not b blamed or persecuted - just simply ignored. They originated when man first chose 2 ignore God's rule. Simply put - in the beginning, the Human was made perfect in God's image. They had no need 4 knowledge. They were also given freedom of choice. The Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life r reflections of this freedom. The human is now a reflection of their choice. They could have simply chose not 2 choose. God being centrifugal in nature, freedom was the CAUSE and choice was the EFFECT. In knowing their perfection made in God's image, there was no need 2 choose. In fact, their were NO NEEDS. There was only love in an all-knowing state b4 the fall. The worst thing u can do is give up ur God-given right 2 choose. 4 in it - u can choose not 2 choose. Therein is the final judgement. The illusion ceases and u awaken from ur dream. Now the healing begins...

With an all-knowing mind, made in God's image u can create as ur Creator - God intended. With love, honor and respect 4 every living thing in the universe. Separation ceases, and we all become One Being singing the One song.

The only bonkers thing I see is the lack of paragraphs!




lol

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #54 posted 05/25/16 8:17am

darkroman

I've always thought this was and is a beautiful song.

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After 16/17 years, I don't see what the problem is and why raise it now.

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Reply #55 posted 05/25/16 8:18am

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Didnt read what you said. Just know that all Geniuses think differently than the rest of us. With all greatness there is oddity.

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Reply #56 posted 05/25/16 8:18am

paulludvig

McD said:

A Prince fan can only follow the music. Not his mental plane. Which was full of broken bottles and hypocrisy. This is someone who started to break up words and act according to their component parts. Who believed in fairy tales and chemtrails. Watch that shameful Tavis Smiley 2009 interview. Ignore if you can how good he looks and how well he speaks. He might be as far in appearance from the last decade of Bobby Fischer, but his mindless, racist ranting is just as bad. And Smiley is horrifyingly complicit in the whole thing. The moment he ignores a plethora of barking mad and offensive BS to say *his* fans need to know why the man espousing theocratic order isn't a supporter of Obama truly beggars belief. The tragedy for Prince is he had too many Tavis Smileys in his life and not enough Kevin Smiths.

Racist?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #57 posted 05/25/16 8:19am

babynoz

PeteSilas said:

TrivialPursuit said:

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While I agree about the JW thing, for me it was more political and social, not religious (despite the references). It was an ideology, and a way of thinking that, frankly, Prince never strayed far from. For the last 15 years, he's stuck to a lot of that stuff. And hey, if it works for him, kudos.

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One part that sticks out for me: "In the name of democracy, supreme power is vested un2 the people in this insane state instead of God. A future re-created, 2 b ruled by man, is one of isolation and despair." - The government rules by fear and intimidation, and people (without any questioning) adhere to that fear. It's an insane state to live in - of constant fear. People are compartmentalized in their lives - almost a colonized mind. How many times have you heard someone say they don't drink and drive because they "don't want to be arrested for a DUI", opposed to their own moral code taking over and saying, "I don't want to possibly hurt anyone"?

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"The human is now a reflection of their choice. They could have simply chose not 2 choose." - People are reflective of that fear factor. All over NY I see "If you see something, say something", or "click it or you'll get a ticket". It's a fucking constant state of paranoia that the state is creating. It's insane. I live by something similar to the sentiment of not choosing - I choose to not be part of the violent government process that locks people up, fines them (steals their money), and taxes them to pay for wars (taxation is theft). Freedom of choice doesn't mean you have to choose something. You can choose nothing. I live my life, as best I can, so that the government is rendered as useless as possible. I think Prince did that too. He was happy, and had no involvement in government, yet understood the social impact of government interference in humanity. I could go on, but I won't.

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In short, I like a lot of the things he said in "The One". But it took me a while to appreciate it.

I'm on the same page with you, just trying to be autonomous as possible. I really don't know if you can do that in this society. I know you certainly can do so much living inside of a society but even if you veer way off and live out in the middle of nowhere it's no guarantee that you'll be left alone. I've thought about it a lot, this government is subtly oppressive and controlling as hell. People actually think we're free. So, do i live on an Indian Reservation? Buy a plot of land or just leave the country. No one gets away from the misery of our culture, we think because we have tons of cool toys and a little bit of money and ain't starving that all is good. Well, if that were the case, people would be nicer to each other, in traffic, with their families and friends and they wouldn't pill pop, drink, smoke themselves to an early death. gotta be a better place on the planet. Never will understand why certain segments of our country even stay here really.



Thanks for these two replies. Excellent points. cool

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Reply #58 posted 05/25/16 8:20am

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U forgot the War.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #59 posted 05/25/16 8:26am

babynoz

2freaky4church1 said:

U forgot the War.



I didn't. The War is my favorite Prince song but it has been posted numerous times already.

I was only posting the stuff that most people haven't seen in a while, especially the younglings. nod

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