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Reply #30 posted 05/19/16 1:13pm

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We don't know that he didn't have a partner!

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Reply #31 posted 05/19/16 2:29pm

twinkieG

airth said:

(You might want to edit the title for spelling.)

I understand what you're saying, but I can't agree. Unless you knew Prince personally, you're making an assumption when you say he was alone. He was in a position to choose how to live his life even with the trappings of fame. I have no reason to think his life was emotionally lacking.

Your grief is your grief, not something that can substitute for someone you think was missing.

That's why I phrased the topic as a question, and made my take on it clearly my own, with a lot of "I" statements. That's how I felt, reflecting for a day or two. I was curious how other people felt about it. I have read a lot of similar sentiments about other people's concern for him in a similar vein.

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Reply #32 posted 05/19/16 2:32pm

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gollygirl said:

I am someone who has been on their own now for 10 years and I am OK with it. There is nothing more lonely than being with the wrong person - that is the worst loneliness of all to be part of something but feeling alone. I think Prince loved his music so much, that was what brought him the most joy anyway, and he was married to that. But I do wish he had his little son - that would have been wonderful. That I think is a loss he would never get over and you would not expect him too.

I totally agree with you on all counts. I love and need alone time, too. And yes, the son would have been the most important relationship more than romantic partners. It's less a critique of the choices he made, and more a realization about my own grieving process being influenced by his lack of a widow. I.e., It's totally my own head trip.

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Reply #33 posted 05/19/16 2:34pm

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RiotPaisley said:

PurpleMusic07 said:

^^ THIS, or the "right" person for the wrong reasons.

[Edited 5/19/16 6:45am]

AMEN!!! The loneliest days of my life were with a partner I lost connection to.

Yes, been there too, and it is a heart-wrenching place to find yourself.

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Reply #34 posted 05/19/16 2:39pm

twinkieG

EmmaMcG said:

To answer the original question, I don't think anyone can wish he was married or not. It might have been his choice to be single. Maybe he didn't feel as though he was alone. Or maybe he preferred it that way.

I wasn't wishing for his life or choices to be different. I had a dawning awareness recently, though, that I personally felt an especially strong grief reaction which surprised me. And I had wondered that *if* he'd had a partner who could take up the task of grieving deeply for him, if I'd be more relaxed and at peace about his passing. it's hard to explain, and it's totally my own deal.

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Reply #35 posted 05/19/16 2:45pm

Pokeno4Money

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nursev said:

I wish he had children sad Obviously he wanted them, but it just wasnt in the plan. It would be nice to look at some young person's face and see Prince wink


Wonder why he never adopted then?

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Reply #36 posted 05/19/16 2:48pm

SoulAlive

Pokeno4Money said:

nursev said:

I wish he had children sad Obviously he wanted them, but it just wasnt in the plan. It would be nice to look at some young person's face and see Prince wink


Wonder why he never adopted then?

I have often wondered the same thing.He could have easily adopted children.

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Reply #37 posted 05/19/16 2:56pm

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twinkieG said:

Wouldn't it be comforting to know that Prince had a real partner or wife at the end. I feel like

if he had a companion, we'd have less grief. It would mitigate some of the pain for me if I knew he

was taken care of emotionally leading up to his death. Sort of like Iman and Bowie: it's her place to grieve, as his widow, not mine. I'm free to sit back and feel my sentiments of love and appreciation. But with Prince having been so alone in life, there is a void that evokes and extra level of sadness and grief for me around his passing. What do you all think?

[Edited 5/19/16 14:27pm]

Not at all.

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Reply #38 posted 05/19/16 2:58pm

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twinkieG said:

Wouldn't it be comforting to know that Prince had a real partner or wife at the end. I feel like

if he had a companion, we'd have less grief. It would mitigate some of the pain for me if I knew he

was taken care of emotionally leading up to his death. Sort of like Iman and Bowie: it's her place to grieve, as his widow, not mine. I'm free to sit back and feel my sentiments of love and appreciation. But with Prince having been so alone in life, there is a void that evokes and extra level of sadness and grief for me around his passing. What do you all think?

[Edited 5/19/16 14:27pm]

I was thinking some of these things back in March when he was shown MackDaddy style with Damaris at one of the Warriors basketball games. It was thread about it: "Prince Courtside"

Sitting there with a young Damaris and he 57 years old instead of a finace or wife! biggrin razz lol

Oh Well, His Choice...

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Reply #39 posted 05/19/16 3:07pm

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gollygirl said:

There is nothing more lonely than being with the wrong person - that is the worst loneliness of all to be part of something but feeling alone.



YES. nod Trying to make it work with someone, just to not be alone in society's eyes is the worst kind of loneliness.

I believe some are projecting their personal feelings about marriage onto Prince. A spouse is not a cure-all, and having one at his time of departure may not have changed his fate at all.
I'm glad that in his final times, Prince looked happy and, though I don't know for sure, he never seemed lonely.

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Reply #40 posted 05/19/16 3:22pm

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twinkieG said:



EmmaMcG said:


To answer the original question, I don't think anyone can wish he was married or not. It might have been his choice to be single. Maybe he didn't feel as though he was alone. Or maybe he preferred it that way.

I wasn't wishing for his life or choices to be different. I had a dawning awareness recently, though, that I personally felt an especially strong grief reaction which surprised me. And I had wondered that *if* he'd had a partner who could take up the task of grieving deeply for him, if I'd be more relaxed and at peace about his passing. it's hard to explain, and it's totally my own deal.



I think I know what you mean. To be honest, I'm not sure if you'd feel any different. You can tell from all the tributes from his fans all over the world that he was loved and respected a great deal. He didn't have a wife or girlfriend at the time of his death (that we know of) but he had an entire legion of fans and some very close friends who all share the grief of missing someone who was a very important figure in their lives. I don't think him being married would change the way you feel about his death. I know it wouldn't change the way I feel about it.
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Reply #41 posted 05/19/16 3:51pm

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I think, if he had found his life partner he still would be here.

Obviously he was looking for his soulmate.

Maybe she was conscious of this and couldn't managed for any reason to get to him.

Possibly she could have given him the strength to cope his pain without the medication. sad

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Reply #42 posted 05/19/16 4:07pm

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I think it was more a concious choice on his end not get married again, if thats what Prince wanted then it's alright...This is Prince were talking about here, there would be no shortage of people who would be with him...His passion for music had no bounds, as others have stated, he was married to his work his songs were his children.

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Reply #43 posted 05/19/16 4:21pm

nursev

Pokeno4Money said:

nursev said:

I wish he had children sad Obviously he wanted them, but it just wasnt in the plan. It would be nice to look at some young person's face and see Prince wink


Wonder why he never adopted then?

Maybe he wanted his own sad

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Reply #44 posted 05/19/16 5:36pm

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No.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #45 posted 05/19/16 6:15pm

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I think he was living proof that you don't need kids or a partner to make you happy. Anyone can get married. Anyone can have kids. He did not exactly grow up with the best examples of this traditional sort of life. So maybe it was best that it didn't work out. In the end, we all die alone. All that matters is if you are happy or not with yourself. He also lived to work. While most of us work to live. What a great life he had.

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Reply #46 posted 05/19/16 6:19pm

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nursev said:

I wish he had children sad Obviously he wanted them, but it just wasnt in the plan. It would be nice to look at some young person's face and see Prince wink


I hoped he had children too....I just hope it's not that guy in jail from Missouri. neutral Hopefully, we will find out soon enough with that paternity test.
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Reply #47 posted 05/20/16 11:58am

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Disconcertingeyes said:

nursev said:

I wish he had children sad Obviously he wanted them, but it just wasnt in the plan. It would be nice to look at some young person's face and see Prince wink

I hoped he had children too....I just hope it's not that guy in jail from Missouri. neutral Hopefully, we will find out soon enough with that paternity test.

agreed...cuz we not havin that lol

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Reply #48 posted 05/20/16 12:10pm

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I really think music was his true mistress...and no one else could compete.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #49 posted 05/20/16 12:12pm

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Disconcertingeyes said:

nursev said:

I wish he had children sad Obviously he wanted them, but it just wasnt in the plan. It would be nice to look at some young person's face and see Prince wink

I hoped he had children too....I just hope it's not that guy in jail from Missouri. neutral Hopefully, we will find out soon enough with that paternity test.

Show Me! razz lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #50 posted 05/20/16 12:21pm

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If it had kept him alive longer and tamed his ravage insatiable desire to work continuously, yes.

"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #51 posted 05/21/16 6:01am

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purplethunder3121 said:

I really think music was his true mistress...and no one else could compete.


I agree. It reminds me of the final scene of the final episode of Cheers, after Sam was down in the dumps because every woman that came into his life didn't work out.

Norm told Sam: "You can never be unfaithful to your one true love, you always come back to her."

Of course he was talking about the bar. wink


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Reply #52 posted 05/21/16 6:05am

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nursev said:

Pokeno4Money said:


Wonder why he never adopted then?

Maybe he wanted his own sad


I'm guessing he didn't want to be a single father because it's against his religion to have children out of wedlock, and he'd want a wife to take care of his children while he was busy touring and making music.

"Never let nasty stalkers disrespect you. They start shit, you finish it. Go down to their level, that's the only way they'll understand. You have to handle things yourself."
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Reply #53 posted 05/21/16 7:46am

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He brought joy to George Harrison's son in the While My Guitar Gently Weeps clip. Somber plodding tribute until Prince stepped in and KILLED - brought the level way up all around. You could see the pain of backing up his father's song fall off him and he laughed when Prince went backwards off the stage during the solo. That made everybody smile, even the old guard.

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #54 posted 05/21/16 8:25am

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JasminMaria said:

I think, if he had found his life partner he still would be here.


Obviously he was looking for his soulmate.


Maybe she was conscious of this and couldn't managed for any reason to get to him.


Possibly she could have given him the strength to cope his pain without the medication. sad



She wasn't conscious that it was him.
She only found out about everything this month.
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Reply #55 posted 05/21/16 8:48am

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"She?" Who's "she?" confuse

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #56 posted 05/21/16 9:37am

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twinkieG said:

airth said:

I understand what you're saying, but I can't agree. Unless you knew Prince personally, you're making an assumption when you say he was alone. He was in a position to choose how to live his life even with the trappings of fame. I have no reason to think his life was emotionally lacking.

Your grief is your grief, not something that can substitute for someone you think was missing.

That's why I phrased the topic as a question, and made my take on it clearly my own, with a lot of "I" statements. That's how I felt, reflecting for a day or two. I was curious how other people felt about it. I have read a lot of similar sentiments about other people's concern for him in a similar vein.


Sure, like I wrote, I understand your point of view. I think you're making an assumption about his situation, but I'm not criticising you for believing you would feel better if you knew he'd been in a special relationship.

Personally, it wouldn't have made any difference to me. Even if he'd been married, there probably wouldn't have been any way for me to know the true nature of the relationship. I'm just content to know there are so many people who were touched by Prince in such a meaningful way as to feel the grief we are seeing (and experiencing).

A good friend of mine died in February at the age of 36. As far as I know, he had been happily married. His wife is, as you'd expect, completely overcome with grief. I really don't think that the belief he had been in a good relationship has in any way lessened the terrible impact on me. If anything, it's made it worse to have to see her suffer, and to wonder about the future of his infant son.

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Reply #57 posted 05/21/16 9:50am

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purplethunder3121 said:

"She?" Who's "she?" confuse

!His soulmate! wink

[Edited 5/21/16 9:56am]

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Reply #58 posted 05/21/16 10:04am

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I wish he had children sad Obviously he wanted them, but it just wasnt in the plan. It would be nice to look at some young person's face and see Prince wink

I wish he had children too and I agree it wasn't the plan, but I don't agree he wanted them that bad. When Prince REALLY wanted something (beautiful women for one) he went after it and got. It's just like how he talked about first learning to play guitar in the Tavis Smiley interview, it was frustating, but you have to keep at it and don't give up. The same with having children.

I don't think he had the patience for children. Like some of the orgers said he gets bored really fast.

You know what my wish was to see is him holding an infant or a smal childl in his arms to see if he had any paternal instincts. When he had children in his videos he never interacted with them.(Musicology, A Million Days, 7, Diamonds and Pearls video) I would've liked to seen him hold them in his arms like Rosie Gaines did. I want to see the video where he was playing with a little girl on stage on his Musicology tour. That's the one and only time I've seen him interact with a child.

[Edited 5/21/16 10:07am]

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Reply #59 posted 05/21/16 10:09am

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Only because if he had someone taking care of him, this might not have happened. Aslo if he had kids MAYBE he would have gone ahead with the hip replacement and this might not have happened.

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