BobGeorge909 said:

keenly said:

Van is an establishment shill. Nobody who works with the white house is a good person.

Good people challenge the whte house, not work for the elite.

I don't know what ure trying to say here...but he ain't no shill...vans a good dude. And leave your p&r shit in p&r...

How did Van challenge the system then? He seems to be another brain washed into belieivng that Obama is real. Obama was placed there to pacify black people. He was funded by Goldman Sachs into power.

Tell me more about Van. I would actually LOVE to be wrong.

GirlBrother said:

KoolEaze said:

I also watched footage of Larry Graham, Sheila , Tyka Nelson and all those fans mournig outside Paisley Park and what they said and how they spoke of him but for some reason that made me feel a bit uncomfortable.

Agreed. Larry and Sheila looked more like they were going to a meeting with an accountant, than to a memorial for a friend. I'm not saying they should be wailing & crying on their knees... But the lack of any emotion bothered me. Sheila wearing white and not black bothered me. Tyka holding a bag of Cheetos, while someone else carried the ashes bothered me also. Many fans have been unable to eat at all. I have never believed that Larry Graham had Prince's best interests at heart. Sheila very publicly distanced herself from Prince in the last few years. They presumably reconciled their friendship - but nobody knows to what extent. Seeing Carmen Electra crying seemed real to me. I know that people process grief differently, but I'm an emotional person. Seeing people not having an emotional response is alien to me.

Some people hide their emotions. I cannot talk about Prince with others yet. Even though I am wearing my sadness and people keep asking me whats wrong, I can't talk about it. Because I know if I open that floodgate, I won't be able to stop.

That may be the case for them.

On Bill Maher he was joking around the whole show. I like him but damn. Didn't know they were so tight. We do need to make up with Larry.

Cornel West was tight with P too.

Iluvmusic78 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

On Bill Maher he was joking around the whole show. I like him but damn. Didn't know they were so tight. We do need to make up with Larry.

When was that? And what did they discuss? I don´t like Maher but sometimes the discussions are interesting.

Well.. I've been seething about this since last week, and didn't post it because I know everyone's heart is broken right now, including mine, but....

Did anyone watch Van Jones' interview (MSNBC,iirc) where he mentioned how he 'was one of three people in the room when Prince got his masters back that day'? He spoke about how this 'sista' (Prince's lawyer) 'with no entertainment industry experience, went up against these corporate executives and beat them'. MAN THAT PISSES ME OFF! What an ignorant way to handle one's business. Because we all know Prince's victory seems symbolic at best and what happened within weeks of that deal. It was so bad that Prince was giving interviews saying that record execs were not even taking his phone calls. Eventually he was down to playing hardball with the PR remaster, and that tactic really seemed to fail.

Also, everytime I hear how Prince supposedly cut this guy, or his orginazation or whoever million dollar checks for 'solar panels for the hood' and assorted bullcrap when he really wasn't bringing in the bacon like the old days, I just.... I can't stand Van Jones. I view him as a leech.

funksterr said:

Well.. I've been seething about this since last week, and didn't post it because I know everyone's heart is broken right now, including mine, but....

Did anyone watch Van Jones' interview (MSNBC,iirc) where he mentioned how he 'was one of three people in the room when Prince got his masters back that day'? He spoke about how this 'sista' (Prince's lawyer) 'with no entertainment industry experience, went up against these corporate executives and beat them'. MAN THAT PISSES ME OFF! What an ignorant way to handle one's business. Because we all know Prince's victory seems symbolic at best and what happened within weeks of that deal. It was so bad that Prince was giving interviews saying that record execs were not even taking his phone calls. Eventually he was down to playing hardball with the PR remaster, and that tactic really seemed to fail.

Also, everytime I hear how Prince supposedly cut this guy, or his orginazation or whoever million dollar checks for 'solar panels for the hood' and assorted bullcrap when he really wasn't bringing in the bacon like the old days, I just.... I can't stand Van Jones. I view him as a leech.

I am not sure what your point is here?

strawberrybubblegum said:

keenly said:

Bohemian67 said:

Well.. Van the Man just got me crying again. He's such a great guy, I've been following him on Twitter and Upworthy on FB since Prince did that interview a few years back and I learnt of Van Jones. He is so smart, so compassionate and I'm so happy Prince had such a good friend. I can just imagine how painful it must be for him to talk about Prince in the past tense.

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By the way: To posters who think 'wearing white' to a funeral or not crying is strange, remember, that some people in shock just can't cry. Secondly, Sensation ID&T (now a global event) started as a funeral/party celebration for the brother Duncan Stutterheim who died under 20 many years ago. Everybody wears white as a celebration of life.

Van is an establishment shill. Nobody who works with the white house is a good person.

Good people challenge the whte house, not work for the elite.

You must be really young or you just haven't lived much. Don't judge people based upon your miles away perception of them. Either learn about what he does, what he's done and what he lives for before placing judgment or keep your mouth shut about things you don't know until you actually know them.

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lezama said:

keenly said:

Van is an establishment shill. Nobody who works with the white house is a good person.

Good people challenge the whte house, not work for the elite.

You must be really young or you just haven't lived much. Don't judge people based upon your miles away perception of them. Either learn about what he does, what he's done and what he lives for before placing judgment or keep your mouth shut about things you don't know until you actually know them.

[Edited 4/26/16 5:26am]

Pot Kettle

strawberrybubblegum said:

funksterr said:

Well.. I've been seething about this since last week, and didn't post it because I know everyone's heart is broken right now, including mine, but....

Did anyone watch Van Jones' interview (MSNBC,iirc) where he mentioned how he 'was one of three people in the room when Prince got his masters back that day'? He spoke about how this 'sista' (Prince's lawyer) 'with no entertainment industry experience, went up against these corporate executives and beat them'. MAN THAT PISSES ME OFF! What an ignorant way to handle one's business. Because we all know Prince's victory seems symbolic at best and what happened within weeks of that deal. It was so bad that Prince was giving interviews saying that record execs were not even taking his phone calls. Eventually he was down to playing hardball with the PR remaster, and that tactic really seemed to fail.

Also, everytime I hear how Prince supposedly cut this guy, or his orginazation or whoever million dollar checks for 'solar panels for the hood' and assorted bullcrap when he really wasn't bringing in the bacon like the old days, I just.... I can't stand Van Jones. I view him as a leech.

I am not sure what your point is here?

I don't believe there are a million dollars worth of solar panels on roofs that Prince paid for. I think Prince may have been conned. 'Solar panels for the hood' sounds like a silly idea, that only Prince would fall for. It doesn't make economic sense. The panels would be worth more than the house it's attached to. I bet Chris Rock isn't putting a million bucks into silly sht like that. No one with a million dollars can afford to just throw it away like that.

And then the fact that Prince brought a knife to a gunfight, i mean, a 'community activist' lawyer to a recording contract negotiation... UUUGHHHH!

laurarichardson said:

strawberrybubblegum said:

I am not sure what your point is here?

--- He has no point. If Prince wanted to give his money to charity that was his choice. He had no children or spouse and you cannot take money with you to the grave.

I say Prince didn't have the mental/emotional capicity for such decisions, and was repeatedly conned by a number of people. Van Jones strikes me as having the potential to be one of them. THe ORG is sooo busy right now, but the entire MSNBC Prince conect looks like it was his trickin' money to me.

funksterr said:

laurarichardson said:

strawberrybubblegum said: --- He has no point. If Prince wanted to give his money to charity that was his choice. He had no children or spouse and you cannot take money with you to the grave.

I say Prince didn't have the mental/emotional capicity for such decisions, and was repeatedly conned by a number of people. Van Jones strikes me as having the potential to be one of them. THe ORG is sooo busy right now, but the entire MSNBC Prince conect looks like it was his trickin' money to me.

...yet you have no evidence to back up this claim?

funksterr said:

funksterr said:

strawberrybubblegum said:

I am not sure what your point is here?

I don't believe there are a million dollars worth of solar panels on roofs that Prince paid for. I think Prince may have been conned. 'Solar panels for the hood' sounds like a silly idea, that only Prince would fall for. It doesn't make economic sense. The panels would be worth more than the house it's attached to. I bet Chris Rock isn't putting a million bucks into silly sht like that. No one with a million dollars can afford to just throw it away like that.

And then the fact that Prince brought a knife to a gunfight, i mean, a 'community activist' lawyer to a recording contract negotiation... UUUGHHHH!

That's the second time you used that phrase. Care to explain what your problem is with the "hood"?

funksterr said:

laurarichardson said:

strawberrybubblegum said: --- He has no point. If Prince wanted to give his money to charity that was his choice. He had no children or spouse and you cannot take money with you to the grave.

I say Prince didn't have the mental/emotional capicity for such decisions, and was repeatedly conned by a number of people. Van Jones strikes me as having the potential to be one of them. THe ORG is sooo busy right now, but the entire MSNBC Prince conect looks like it was his trickin' money to me.

Van Jones is at CNN, not MSNBC.

Long before this tragedy, I have been a big fan of Van Jones for his views and commentary on CNN with Anderson Cooper and others.

I never knew until 421 that he was more connected to P than I was! Obviously we know now that he waas ligitimatly connected while I have been paying for tickets et al for 35 years to get within 5 feet.

Much respect 4U Van... I hope to meet you one day and share a story or two...

Peace,

Gerald

babynoz said:

2elijah said:

babynoz said:

That's the second time you used that phrase. Care to explain what your problem is with the "hood"?

Exactly. Van and Prince have been friends for a while, and I'm glad some of the people that worked with Prince are sharing their knowledge of the societal/political /community interests and charity side of Prince.

After the WH threw Van under the bus P is the one who called Van, not the other way around. We all know that Prince is the only one that make the choice of who will be summoned to PP, bless him.

It takes a special kind of hatefulness that can condemn somebody for helping the needy.

KoolEaze said:

I didn´t even know who Van Jones is until Prince passed away, and then I googled him and found out about him.

Hearing Mr.Jones talk about Prince and the friendship they had and the good things Prince did is one of the most soothing things for me at the moment.

Most of the media focus on Prince´s legacy, his hits, a lot of trivia for the casual listeners and how great he was but Van Jones brings to attention how Prince was as a person, a friend and a humanitarian, and what a positive influence he´s had on the people he´s touched in his life, not just through his music but through his personality, and that is something that the media doesn´t and cannot really focus on, unless in some rare interviews with the likes of Mr. Jones , or Paul Westberg and his touching words in Rolling Stone, or close associates.

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I also watched footage of Larry Graham, Sheila , Tyka Nelson and all those fans mournig outside Paisley Park and what they said and how they spoke of him but for some reason that made me feel a bit uncomfortable.

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Listening to Van Jones makes me incredibly sad but so far he´s one of the few interviewed people whose words and behaviour touched me the most and help me cope with the situation.

Which has a lot to do with how honest, eloquent , how real and sympathetic Mr . Jones comes across in the two interviews that I have seen so far.

His focus on Prince as a human being and dear friend is a relief compared to the usual articles and news footage.

Especially Larry Graham

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How did Prince and Van Jones first meet? And how did they become friends?

I appreciate Van's stories. You can tell they had a genuine friendship. To her credit, I did see a couple interviews where Sheila was tearing up. I think it's hurting her too, as much as some people might view her as an opportunist right now. Back to Van, I'm thankful that he's providing us with so much context about Prince the humanitarian. I've been watching a lot of old Prince interviews, and you can tell he's all about empowering the youth and the disenfranchised. The world really lost a great soul.

funksterr said:

Well.. I've been seething about this since last week, and didn't post it because I know everyone's heart is broken right now, including mine, but....

Did anyone watch Van Jones' interview (MSNBC,iirc) where he mentioned how he 'was one of three people in the room when Prince got his masters back that day'? He spoke about how this 'sista' (Prince's lawyer) 'with no entertainment industry experience, went up against these corporate executives and beat them'. MAN THAT PISSES ME OFF! What an ignorant way to handle one's business. Because we all know Prince's victory seems symbolic at best and what happened within weeks of that deal. It was so bad that Prince was giving interviews saying that record execs were not even taking his phone calls. Eventually he was down to playing hardball with the PR remaster, and that tactic really seemed to fail.

Also, everytime I hear how Prince supposedly cut this guy, or his orginazation or whoever million dollar checks for 'solar panels for the hood' and assorted bullcrap when he really wasn't bringing in the bacon like the old days, I just.... I can't stand Van Jones. I view him as a leech.

And you know this how, were you one of his accountants? I thought not.

2elijah said:

babynoz said:

That's the second time you used that phrase. Care to explain what your problem is with the "hood"?

Exactly. Van and Prince have been friends for a while, and I'm glad some of the people that worked with Prince are sharing their knowledge of the societal/political /community interests and charity side of Prince.

I know. It's good to hear from people who actually knew Prince on a more personal level and are willing to share their experiences. It's a lot more insightful than peeps here who don't know squat but talk as if they do.

Another good one. (Apologies if this has been posted.)

All I know is, I've already read at least a dozen articles about Prince's philanthropy. He was just the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMwH-4pA1NA