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Reply #60 posted 01/16/16 1:08am

SoulAlive

Prince should have chosen the happy ending,instead of the death at the end.It would have worked much better.

The ending could consist of he and Mary running off together,as "All My Dreams" plays in the background

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Reply #61 posted 01/16/16 3:08am

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All My Dreams is one of those songs that takes you on a journey, best enjoyed with headphones. It wasn't one of my favourites early on with its apparently simplistic melody and occassional twee vocals. But over the years it worked its way into my mind until one day I realised that I loved the whole song.

Today, I went and read the lyrics for the first time. Part of me is glad that I now know he's singing, "Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's," while another part of me is kind of disappointed that deep voice gets out the metaphor hammer to smack us around the head with, "A submarine slowly moves through the virgin sea," followed by the chuckle inducing, "She squeezes tighter as the submarine goes deeper in depth into the unnavigated territory." Oh dear. I hope they came up for air.

I was interested to read on PrinceVault that Wendy's (and Lisa's?) "...whispered lyrics in the bridge segment before the song returns to the final verse contains part of the 'Morning Verse' by Rudolf Steiner, as used on Waldorf/Steiner schools, like the one in Northridge, California where Wendy and Lisa attended." They used the three lines marked in bold below from the original verse.


I look into the world

Wherein there shines the sun

Wherein there gleam the stars

Wherein there lie the stones.

The plants they live and grow.

The beasts they feel and live.

And humankind to spirit gives

A dwelling in the soul.

I look into the soul.

That living dwells in me

God’s spirit lives and weaves

In sunlight and in soul-light

In heights of worlds without

In depths of soul within

To thee O spirit of God,

I seeking turn myself

That strength and grace and skill

For learning and for work

In me may live and grow.


Of course, what really takes All My Dreams to a whole other level is what happens next: arguably the finest climax to a song Prince ever recorded. These final lines make me want to curl up into a happy little ball and roll around giggling.


All my dreams, all my dreams

Goodness will guide us if love is inside us
The colors are brighter, the bond is much tighter
U know no child's a failure
Until the blue sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't ever lose, don't ever lose
Don't ever lose your dreams
Yeah

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Reply #62 posted 01/16/16 3:24am

udo

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aaroncanderson said:

Recently discovered this gem.

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I believe there is no such gem from Prince.

Perhaps you are confused and mean this song?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #63 posted 01/16/16 3:32am

airth

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udo said:

aaroncanderson said:

Recently discovered this gem.

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I believe there is no such gem from Prince.

Perhaps you are confused and mean this song?



Hilarious, udo. Never made a typo in your life, right?

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Reply #64 posted 01/16/16 3:59am

Thizz

What's the name of the project you've found this song on?

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Reply #65 posted 01/16/16 5:09am

udo

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airth said:

udo said:

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I believe there is no such gem from Prince.

Perhaps you are confused and mean this song?



Hilarious, udo. Never made a typo in your life, right?

.

This is not a typo but a misrepresentation of a misunderstood title.

If the actual lyrics were different then we would have a case for confusion.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #66 posted 01/16/16 5:35am

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Thizz said:

What's the name of the project you've found this song on?



It's a long-circulating bootleg so you'll find it in many places. The main place it'll turn up is the last track on configurations of The Dream Factory album.

And, udo, "a misrepresentation of a misunderstood title"? Oh, please. Don't you have anything better to add to this thread about a great song?

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Reply #67 posted 01/16/16 6:29am

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airth said:

All My Dreams is one of those songs that takes you on a journey, best enjoyed with headphones. It wasn't one of my favourites early on with its apparently simplistic melody and occassional twee vocals. But over the years it worked its way into my mind until one day I realised that I loved the whole song.

Today, I went and read the lyrics for the first time. Part of me is glad that I now know he's singing, "Africa, Cap'n Crunch, Norma Jean, Sex and Cheerio's," while another part of me is kind of disappointed that deep voice gets out the metaphor hammer to smack us around the head with, "A submarine slowly moves through the virgin sea," followed by the chuckle inducing, "She squeezes tighter as the submarine goes deeper in depth into the unnavigated territory." Oh dear. I hope they came up for air.

I was interested to read on PrinceVault that Wendy's (and Lisa's?) "...whispered lyrics in the bridge segment before the song returns to the final verse contains part of the 'Morning Verse' by Rudolf Steiner, as used on Waldorf/Steiner schools, like the one in Northridge, California where Wendy and Lisa attended." They used the three lines marked in bold below from the original verse.


I look into the world

Wherein there shines the sun

Wherein there gleam the stars

Wherein there lie the stones.

The plants they live and grow.

The beasts they feel and live.

And humankind to spirit gives

A dwelling in the soul.

I look into the soul.

That living dwells in me

God’s spirit lives and weaves

In sunlight and in soul-light

In heights of worlds without

In depths of soul within

To thee O spirit of God,

I seeking turn myself

That strength and grace and skill

For learning and for work

In me may live and grow.


Of course, what really takes All My Dreams to a whole other level is what happens next: arguably the finest climax to a song Prince ever recorded. These final lines make me want to curl up into a happy little ball and roll around giggling.


All my dreams, all my dreams

Goodness will guide us if love is inside us
The colors are brighter, the bond is much tighter
U know no child's a failure
Until the blue sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't ever lose, don't ever lose
Don't ever lose your dreams
Yeah

love your recap of your experience with this song. Like a lot of songs from those years, it's a rollercoaster of sounds that are not over layered, background lyrics, This song is fun yet extremely pornographically poetic

that last part that takes us out of the songs connects me to the optimism of Mountains and the section from AnotherLoverholenyohead

We were brothers and sisters
United all for love

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Reply #68 posted 01/16/16 10:50am

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Bluu said:

Doozer said:

btw who's the fool singing "of"? It's "All My Dreams" not "All of My Dreams."

Clever smile Is that from SWSAT rehearsal?


Small Club 1988 - Still WOULD Stand All Time.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #69 posted 01/16/16 12:50pm

SanDiegoFunkDa
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masterpiece. song is pure genius

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Reply #70 posted 01/17/16 11:22am

Doozer

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bonatoc said:



Bluu said:




Doozer said:


btw who's the fool singing "of"? It's "All My Dreams" not "All of My Dreams."

Clever smile Is that from SWSAT rehearsal?




Small Club 1988 - Still WOULD Stand All Time.



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Reply #71 posted 01/20/16 9:12am

highcalonic

bonatoc said:


Let's hope he didn't destroy the takes as he destroyed the J.B. Mondino Lovesexy cover session...

[Edited 1/14/16 14:14pm]

how did he destroyed it ? in what terms ? 'cause i got the original cover photo and it's not far away from the final version...

"You can skate around the issue if you like,
But who's gonna get you high in the middle of the night?"
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Reply #72 posted 01/20/16 2:21pm

bonatoc

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highcalonic said:

bonatoc said:


Let's hope he didn't destroy the takes as he destroyed the J.B. Mondino Lovesexy cover session...

[Edited 1/14/16 14:14pm]

how did he destroyed it ? in what terms ? 'cause i got the original cover photo and it's not far away from the final version...


Litteraly.

Prince chose one photograph, and allegedly the rest of the photo shooting was destroyed :

http://prince.org/msg/7/146894

So I hope the UTCM alternate ending takes are still intact.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #73 posted 01/21/16 4:06am

udo

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bonatoc said:

highcalonic said:

how did he destroyed it ? in what terms ? 'cause i got the original cover photo and it's not far away from the final version...


Litteraly.

Prince chose one photograph, and allegedly the rest of the photo shooting was destroyed :

http://prince.org/msg/7/146894

So I hope the UTCM alternate ending takes are still intact.

.

Hmm.

I would not bet on it.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #74 posted 01/21/16 4:51am

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I used to love this song, but over the years have come to realise why Prince disgarded these tracks... they're not very good!

I can't imagine him ever performing this song.

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It's just exciting to hear unreleased songs and experiments.

What I do like about this song though is that he reused ideas in later projects... and the end is good smile

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Reply #75 posted 01/21/16 4:53am

james

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bonatoc said:

highcalonic said:

how did he destroyed it ? in what terms ? 'cause i got the original cover photo and it's not far away from the final version...


Litteraly.

Prince chose one photograph, and allegedly the rest of the photo shooting was destroyed :

http://prince.org/msg/7/146894

So I hope the UTCM alternate ending takes are still intact.

.

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He was naked in those pics, so i can understand him not wanting them lurking around somewhere.

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Reply #76 posted 01/21/16 7:06am

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bonatoc said:

Co-vote. It would have been an entirely different film.
They could have insisted more on Christopher struggling to quit his bad ways.

A male "Roxane" redemption would have been way better and would have spare us
the ludicrous shot scene. Until then, the picture's pretty good.
"Mountains" would have been great as background music with Prince and Mary playing in the fields, or starting a life together, instead of the kids. It's too surreal as it is.

But hey, Skipper wanted to do a blue screen, and a flying carpet while playing shakers.
Oh well.

Let's hope he didn't destroy the takes as he destroyed the J.B. Mondino Lovesexy cover session...

[Edited 1/14/16 14:14pm]

Is it just me but I've always thought that in an alternative universe P & Jerome were the stars of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, but with a bit of music thrown in, and the project was univerally loved by critics and the general public alike. It always struck me as the film UTCM should have been, even though I do love what we got.

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Reply #77 posted 01/21/16 8:05am

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purplepolitician said:

Best ending ever in life nod. The rest is pretty decent also thumbs up!.

Absloultely. I remember the first time I heard it I was digging it a bit and then my mind was totally blown when it picked up at the end.

I abdicated the throne in Ithaca, but now I am...
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Reply #78 posted 01/21/16 10:47am

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The humour, the tongue in cheek. That's what is lacking.
Sure, you can't do it on command, you have to be in the mood for it,
it can't sound fake.

But boy oh boy, how much I like Prince the Comedian.

Love or Money, La La La, He He Hee, Movie Star, Wonderful Ass...

Prince is never as good as when he's having genuine fun.

That's why this Love Boat Charleston Funk is awesome.
It goes all the way, that "Do what I wanna do" attitude that gave birth to some of his best works.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #79 posted 01/22/16 5:25pm

williamb610

"Lisa...I"m going to give you the brush and you're gonna paint the side of the train!"

"Song doesn't sound good?" Are you crazy? It's one of his best outtakes. It definitely would have been a killer track on any album.

Here's hoping it still comes out on a Parade reissue. Prince said "there'll be reissues galore". So, I'm waiting.

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Reply #80 posted 02/17/16 10:12pm

SanDiegoFunkDa
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song is a masterpiece. kinda hard to judge a song sourced from a cassette bootleg. the song would be ever better if it was officially released

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Reply #81 posted 02/18/16 12:41pm

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It's great and that ending is just beautiful.

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Reply #82 posted 02/18/16 1:50pm

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Overrated, like most of his outtakes. Same ones just come up again and again. I got 'The Work' years ago off a torrent. I ended up keeping about 3 CD's worth of of about 30 discs. Rubbish most of it.

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Reply #83 posted 02/18/16 3:51pm

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Marrk said:

Overrated, like most of his outtakes. Same ones just come up again and again. I got 'The Work' years ago off a torrent. I ended up keeping about 3 CD's worth of of about 30 discs. Rubbish most of it.

Would you like to go further?

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Reply #84 posted 02/19/16 3:37am

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Marrk said:

Overrated, like most of his outtakes. Same ones just come up again and again. I got 'The Work' years ago off a torrent. I ended up keeping about 3 CD's worth of of about 30 discs. Rubbish most of it.

Because you are a casual listener and have no interest in studying an artist's creative process, nor in getting into P's work in depth like us hardcore fans do. Nothing wrong to it but it's just you, really, not the quality of the work that's in question.

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Reply #85 posted 02/19/16 12:26pm

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databank said:

Marrk said:

Overrated, like most of his outtakes. Same ones just come up again and again. I got 'The Work' years ago off a torrent. I ended up keeping about 3 CD's worth of of about 30 discs. Rubbish most of it.

Because you are a casual listener and have no interest in studying an artist's creative process, nor in getting into P's work in depth like us hardcore fans do. Nothing wrong to it but it's just you, really, not the quality of the work that's in question.

I don't know about music, but for me it sounds like a great work in terms of production and musical wise. But i don't know nothing about music, so it's very subjective.

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Reply #86 posted 02/19/16 3:48pm

imprimis

This song was most likely not at the level of development we recognize it to be from the circulating outtake, in time for a release on 'Parade'. Although initially tracked in April 1985, it was worked on multiple times in late 1985 throughout mid-1986. Most of the Fairlight effects, the Lisa Coleman piano solo, and likely that showtunesy closing chorus were added late in its development. It is one of those 1985/Parade/UTCM-era tracks that didn't quite meet the standard or image of the rest of resulting album, and was held over for possible use on the next project, with an eye towards the need/desire for additional work ('Strange Relationship', 'Neon Telephone', 'Sexual Suicide', 'Go', 'Splash', possibly 'Slow Love', possibly 'Old Friends 4 Sale'). I would rank the track as we know it (presumably completed) to be an integral part of some stage of the non-existent 'Dream Factory', even if it is rooted partially in the Parade-era sound. Some of the finishing touches on this track may have been done by W&L while Prince was occupied with other engagements.

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[Edited 2/19/16 16:17pm]

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Reply #87 posted 02/19/16 4:28pm

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Marrk said:

Overrated, like most of his outtakes. Same ones just come up again and again. I got 'The Work' years ago off a torrent. I ended up keeping about 3 CD's worth of of about 30 discs. Rubbish most of it.



There is a quick deterioration of quality from the "Lovesexy" Era forward...I will agree with you on that point.

There is a lot of amateur garbage in that compilation, but that's not the point. It's seeing the artistic process. There's a lot of great painters who have sketchbooks full of crap too- but it's still facinating look at an artistic output.
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Reply #88 posted 02/19/16 4:44pm

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warning2all said:

Marrk said:

Overrated, like most of his outtakes. Same ones just come up again and again. I got 'The Work' years ago off a torrent. I ended up keeping about 3 CD's worth of of about 30 discs. Rubbish most of it.

There is a quick deterioration of quality from the "Lovesexy" Era forward...I will agree with you on that point. There is a lot of amateur garbage in that compilation, but that's not the point. It's seeing the artistic process. There's a lot of great painters who have sketchbooks full of crap too- but it's still facinating look at an artistic output.

A lot of things that weren't meant to be heard in the first place, or that were unfinished.

I myself don't listen to most of that stuff much, I'm more than happy just revisiting the official catalogue, but I would say "amateur garbage" or "crap" is a bit too excessive a term, or judgmental maybe. I would continue your analogy with painters' sketchbooks by saying it's more like research, or how u have to come-up with 10 tentative works to get the one you really want and that you'll show your audience. There's no shame in an artist accuulating those sketches, and in the case of Prince there's a lot of good ideas disseminated here and there.

However we agree on the interest of having the opportunity to hear it smile

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Reply #89 posted 02/19/16 4:49pm

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imprimis said:

This song was most likely not at the level of development we recognize it to be from the circulating outtake, in time for a release on 'Parade'. Although initially tracked in April 1985, it was worked on multiple times in late 1985 throughout mid-1986. Most of the Fairlight effects, the Lisa Coleman piano solo, and likely that showtunesy closing chorus were added late in its development. It is one of those 1985/Parade/UTCM-era tracks that didn't quite meet the standard or image of the rest of resulting album, and was held over for possible use on the next project, with an eye towards the need/desire for additional work ('Strange Relationship', 'Neon Telephone', 'Sexual Suicide', 'Go', 'Splash', possibly 'Slow Love', possibly 'Old Friends 4 Sale'). I would rank the track as we know it (presumably completed) to be an integral part of some stage of the non-existent 'Dream Factory', even if it is rooted partially in the Parade-era sound. Some of the finishing touches on this track may have been done by W&L while Prince was occupied with other engagements.

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[Edited 2/19/16 16:17pm]

I really think taking it out of Parade was a good decision, no matter how great it was.

I'm confused by the bold part though. AFAIK we have only one version circulating and that's the one from the May 1985 first config of Parade. Something doesn't add-up here.

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