independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Phase 2 On A Scale Of 1 to 10? Too Soon?
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 3 of 4 <1234>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #60 posted 12/15/15 1:46pm

Guitarhero

Genesia said:

What number corresponds to "I can't believe I paid for this shit"?

Maybe time to move on from Prince then?

[Edited 12/15/15 13:59pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #61 posted 12/15/15 2:52pm

Genesia

avatar

Guitarhero said:

Genesia said:

What number corresponds to "I can't believe I paid for this shit"?

Maybe time to move on from Prince then?


Over one album? Seriously? wacky

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #62 posted 12/15/15 4:32pm

Farfunknugin

avatar

Se7en said:

Dazza said:

For me it's currently an 8. Would have been higher if he substituted screwdriver for free urself. Good solid album.

The in-store version of LotusFlow3r had a one-song difference from the online version (The Morning After traded for Crimson & Clover). Here's hoping.

Who could forget that one? Oh wait I did.. The one thing with Prince for every Colonized Mind there's a Purple & Gold. I actually love the fact he has the balls to put anythig out.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #63 posted 12/15/15 7:25pm

appleseed

It's a perfect 10; the less brilliant tracks just show off Prince's classic quirkiness — which I really love and without which his albums sound like they needed affirmation from vapid corporate commercial tastes.

If I like any Prince album this much on first listen, I give him the benefit of the doubt that the other tracks will grow on me — eventually. After watching the video, Baltimore is even growing on me. The NPG HORN and Hornheads keep most of the songs above water; they nail it every single time — can't wait to see them live.

Four strong bold songs on any Prince album are enough to make it it brilliant:

Stare

2 Y. 2 D. —— OMG please get someone talented to do the video for this jam.

Big City

Black Muse

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #64 posted 12/15/15 7:33pm

feeluupp

appleseed said:

It's a perfect 10; the less brilliant tracks just show off Prince's classic quirkiness — which I really love and without which his albums sound like they needed affirmation from vapid corporate commercial tastes.

If I like any Prince album this much on first listen, I give him the benefit of the doubt that the other tracks will grow on me — eventually. After watching the video, Baltimore is even growing on me. The NPG HORN and Hornheads keep most of the songs above water; they nail it every single time — can't wait to see them live.

Four strong bold songs on any Prince album are enough to make it it brilliant:

Stare

2 Y. 2 D. —— OMG please get someone talented to do the video for this jam.

Big City

Black Muse

If this is a perfect 10 then what is Purple Rain? Sign O' The Times? 1999? Parade and Lovesexy??

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #65 posted 12/15/15 7:45pm

homesquid

avatar

feeluupp said:

appleseed said:

It's a perfect 10; the less brilliant tracks just show off Prince's classic quirkiness — which I really love and without which his albums sound like they needed affirmation from vapid corporate commercial tastes.

If I like any Prince album this much on first listen, I give him the benefit of the doubt that the other tracks will grow on me — eventually. After watching the video, Baltimore is even growing on me. The NPG HORN and Hornheads keep most of the songs above water; they nail it every single time — can't wait to see them live.

Four strong bold songs on any Prince album are enough to make it it brilliant:

Stare

2 Y. 2 D. —— OMG please get someone talented to do the video for this jam.

Big City

Black Muse

If this is a perfect 10 then what is Purple Rain? Sign O' The Times? 1999? Parade and Lovesexy??

has to be a 20 on each of those wink

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #66 posted 12/15/15 8:24pm

Zannaloaf

5/10 cause I like about half the record.
Listenability is a 7/10 becasue I dont skip stuff like I have on most of his recent releases.
Production is a 10/10 - that is what impressed me the most here.
Songwriting a 4/10 cause....
The BIGGEST and BEST thing is that if a couple of these tracks (like When she Comes and Revelation ) prove Prince CAN still write a good and solid track AND not feel llike he's trying to keep up with the "kids" . So THAT is the best part of this record IMO - it's got intent to genuinley push forward as opposed to just trying on new sounds to see if they fit.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #67 posted 12/16/15 12:50am

TheEnglishGent

avatar

KingSausage said:

V10LETBLUES said:
A strong 7
Daaaaamm. A strong 7 from Violet?!

They must have thought it was out of 100. wink lol

RIP sad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #68 posted 12/16/15 12:51am

TheEnglishGent

avatar

Genesia said:

Guitarhero said:

Maybe time to move on from Prince then?


Over one album? Seriously? wacky

Did you like phase I? I thought it was just me! lol

RIP sad
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #69 posted 12/16/15 1:14am

fabriziovenera
ndi

Actually, 7.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #70 posted 12/16/15 3:21am

appleseed

@feeluupp @homesquid



Like former girlfriends [or boyfriends...] who you think about in your 'special private moments' — they all do the trick when you focus on their finer points. Can y'all not be too nerdy about what makes people happy? Would you quantify what makes 'Mountains' a better song than 'When She Comes' ? They're both great. ...

Whenever Prince uses the full range of his vox, the HORNZ, and tosses in some uncommon instruments — like accordians (!) — just for fun, layered on top of solid beats and grooves, and sprinkles on top some adult (or exhuberently juvenile!) thought to love, sex, history, spirituality and politics, he creates a masterpiece.



homesquid said:

feeluupp said:

If this is a perfect 10 then what is Purple Rain? Sign O' The Times? 1999? Parade and Lovesexy??

has to be a 20 on each of those wink

[Edited 12/16/15 3:28am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #71 posted 12/16/15 3:32am

appleseed

exactly

darkroman said:

It's a big TEN from me!

Loving every track. It flows great and I'm loving it in the gym!

lol lol lol lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #72 posted 12/16/15 3:52am

darkroman

feeluupp said:

appleseed said:

It's a perfect 10; the less brilliant tracks just show off Prince's classic quirkiness — which I really love and without which his albums sound like they needed affirmation from vapid corporate commercial tastes.

If I like any Prince album this much on first listen, I give him the benefit of the doubt that the other tracks will grow on me — eventually. After watching the video, Baltimore is even growing on me. The NPG HORN and Hornheads keep most of the songs above water; they nail it every single time — can't wait to see them live.

Four strong bold songs on any Prince album are enough to make it it brilliant:

Stare

2 Y. 2 D. —— OMG please get someone talented to do the video for this jam.

Big City

Black Muse

If this is a perfect 10 then what is Purple Rain? Sign O' The Times? 1999? Parade and Lovesexy??

Why live stuck in the 80s?

We can't judge every Prince album to those.

Those are good albums but not perfect and he's also done many more great albums.

Just judge the album by how much you enjoy it and not by what you think it should be.

lol lol lol lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #73 posted 12/16/15 6:59am

Genesia

avatar

TheEnglishGent said:

Genesia said:


Over one album? Seriously? wacky

Did you like phase I? I thought it was just me! lol


On balance, no. BUT...I have to say, I don't really consider either of these "albums," in the traditional sense. AOA and PE are the last true albums he's done - and I like both of those (with the exception of a few tracks).

I recognize and accept both HNR phases for what they are - random tracks put together without an overarching musical theme or overall concept. They're the clearest instance (so far) of Prince acknowledging that people tend to buy singles these days. They almost encourage you to pick and choose. There are moments in both collections that I think are very good. I just really didn't need to own the whole of either - except to satisfy the completist in me.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #74 posted 12/16/15 2:31pm

Romeoblu

8/9.

I would have gone with a 9 if it had Da Bourgeoise on it in place of screwdriver.

Now I really like Screwdriver but it seems out of place. Da bourgeoise would have been perfect and is a cracking song. I hope it doesn't get lost.


For me it has 3 stellar songs on it.

Groovy Potential
Black Muse
Revelation.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #75 posted 12/16/15 2:48pm

Scarfo

A definite - 3 out of 10. I'm sorry but this is more mediocre throw together crap, just to make an fast buck off of! I know many of ya'll are thinking I'm just trolling Prince just for the sake of trolling. No. In fact, I love Prince's (80's) music from the bottom of my heart. I know what Prince is capable of when he let's his God-given creativity go to work. Sadly, he seems to put all his creativity on how much money he can get from his recent desposable music. I can't believe this is the same man who made Kiss, Neon Rendezvous, Paisley Park, Sign O the Times, Controvery, Computer Blue, When Doves Cry, DMSR, ect, ect. Damn...Prince, where the hell did your creativity go?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #76 posted 12/16/15 3:16pm

Genesia

avatar

Romeoblu said:

8/9. I would have gone with a 9 if it had Da Bourgeoise on it in place of screwdriver. Now I really like Screwdriver but it seems out of place. Da bourgeoise would have been perfect and is a cracking song. I hope it doesn't get lost. For me it has 3 stellar songs on it. Groovy Potential Black Muse Revelation.


Who rates an album on a scale of 9? lol

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #77 posted 12/16/15 4:06pm

aiden

avatar

thedance said:



trax said:


I just can't get into this album. I have been listening non stop for 2 days trying to but it is just a boring album to me. (...)... Phase one was much better. (...)... I will rate it a 2 out of 10.




I agree... sad



I kind of agree too.. And I really enjoyed phase 1
"Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #78 posted 12/16/15 9:43pm

RJOrion

1st 4 songs should have been the last 4 songs...start the album with Stare, Black Muse and Groovy Potential...other than that, i like it more everyday
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #79 posted 12/17/15 12:30am

databank

avatar

Genesia said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Did you like phase I? I thought it was just me! lol


On balance, no. BUT...I have to say, I don't really consider either of these "albums," in the traditional sense. AOA and PE are the last true albums he's done - and I like both of those (with the exception of a few tracks).

I recognize and accept both HNR phases for what they are - random tracks put together without an overarching musical theme or overall concept. They're the clearest instance (so far) of Prince acknowledging that people tend to buy singles these days. They almost encourage you to pick and choose. There are moments in both collections that I think are very good. I just really didn't need to own the whole of either - except to satisfy the completist in me.

Regardless of their qualities or failures, I find both albums extremely cohesive in sounds and themes.

Let us not forget how many tracks from the 80's albums were rescaped from earlier sessions. GB and Times Squared were virtually "greatest unreleased and reworked hits" albums. Jill Jones took four years in the making.

Same with Come and TGE, both could have taken a lot of different shapes.

And if you look at the evolution of SOTT from the first to second to third config of DF to Camille to CB to SOTT, again it was a succession of very different tracklists that were compliled according to the mood of the day, even if most were from 1986.

I think miost of Hitnrun Phase One was recorded by P and Josh over a relatively short time, making it a cohesive set of sessions.

Phase Two of course covers a longer era, from 2011 to 2015, but honestly if none of those songs had been released or played live before and it was released as a completely newly recorded album, no one would question the fact that everything is from 2015.

Also, we don't know how long it took to record AOA and Plec but my guess is AOA may go back to 2011 or 2012, with the start of the collab with Andy, and Plec was recorded over a near 2 years' time, with probably a lot of alternate, early configurations.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #80 posted 12/17/15 2:46am

Aerogram

avatar

trax said:

I just can't get into this album. I have been listening non stop for 2 days trying to but it is just a boring album to me. Screwdriver is the only song with any life in it for me but that song is so old!! It is one of my least favorite albums unfortunately. Phase one was much better. Hopefully Phase three will be coming soon!! I will rate it a 2 out of 10.

[Edited 12/14/15 21:13pm]

Non-stop for TWO days, even though you don't like it? I've listened to it only twice. No sense trying to like something so hard, no wonder...

Stop for a week and then go back... and come back here. As much as I like his music, I've never played his music intensely, it's not at all the best way to assess an album, whether it sounds great or bad, because it tends to "force" whatever opinion I have.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #81 posted 12/17/15 3:06am

MIRvmn

avatar

databank said:



Genesia said:




TheEnglishGent said:



Did you like phase I? I thought it was just me! lol




On balance, no. BUT...I have to say, I don't really consider either of these "albums," in the traditional sense. AOA and PE are the last true albums he's done - and I like both of those (with the exception of a few tracks).

I recognize and accept both HNR phases for what they are - random tracks put together without an overarching musical theme or overall concept. They're the clearest instance (so far) of Prince acknowledging that people tend to buy singles these days. They almost encourage you to pick and choose. There are moments in both collections that I think are very good. I just really didn't need to own the whole of either - except to satisfy the completist in me.



Regardless of their qualities or failures, I find both albums extremely cohesive in sounds and themes.


Let us not forget how many tracks from the 80's albums were rescaped from earlier sessions. GB and Times Squared were virtually "greatest unreleased and reworked hits" albums. Jill Jones took four years in the making.


Same with Come and TGE, both could have taken a lot of different shapes.


And if you look at the evolution of SOTT from the first to second to third config of DF to Camille to CB to SOTT, again it was a succession of very different tracklists that were compliled according to the mood of the day, even if most were from 1986.


I think miost of Hitnrun Phase One was recorded by P and Josh over a relatively short time, making it a cohesive set of sessions.


Phase Two of course covers a longer era, from 2011 to 2015, but honestly if none of those songs had been released or played live before and it was released as a completely newly recorded album, no one would question the fact that everything is from 2015.


Also, we don't know how long it took to record AOA and Plec but my guess is AOA may go back to 2011 or 2012, with the start of the collab with Andy, and Plec was recorded over a near 2 years' time, with probably a lot of alternate, early configurations.


and the songs on Lotusflow3r are from 2005-08 so he always put older tracks on new albums smile
Welcome 2 The Dawn
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #82 posted 12/17/15 4:27am

databank

avatar

MIRvmn said:

databank said:

Regardless of their qualities or failures, I find both albums extremely cohesive in sounds and themes.

Let us not forget how many tracks from the 80's albums were rescaped from earlier sessions. GB and Times Squared were virtually "greatest unreleased and reworked hits" albums. Jill Jones took four years in the making.

Same with Come and TGE, both could have taken a lot of different shapes.

And if you look at the evolution of SOTT from the first to second to third config of DF to Camille to CB to SOTT, again it was a succession of very different tracklists that were compliled according to the mood of the day, even if most were from 1986.

I think miost of Hitnrun Phase One was recorded by P and Josh over a relatively short time, making it a cohesive set of sessions.

Phase Two of course covers a longer era, from 2011 to 2015, but honestly if none of those songs had been released or played live before and it was released as a completely newly recorded album, no one would question the fact that everything is from 2015.

Also, we don't know how long it took to record AOA and Plec but my guess is AOA may go back to 2011 or 2012, with the start of the collab with Andy, and Plec was recorded over a near 2 years' time, with probably a lot of alternate, early configurations.

and the songs on Lotusflow3r are from 2005-08 so he always put older tracks on new albums smile

True nod

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #83 posted 12/17/15 11:17am

tongueinthecre
ase

avatar

9/10!

This is the first album that has been released while I've been a fan and I'm so excited.
you can do anything
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #84 posted 12/17/15 12:16pm

jdcxc

Romeoblu said:

8/9.

I would have gone with a 9 if it had Da Bourgeoise on it in place of screwdriver.

Now I really like Screwdriver but it seems out of place. Da bourgeoise would have been perfect and is a cracking song. I hope it doesn't get lost.


For me it has 3 stellar songs on it.

Groovy Potential
Black Muse
Revelation.


Right on tha $....Da B fits this mix perfectly.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #85 posted 12/17/15 3:53pm

Poplife88

avatar

7

It's far from perfect...but it's enjoyable. Why he put screwdriver and this and not free urself is beyond me. I really like Black Muse, Stare, and Look At Me.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #86 posted 12/17/15 5:20pm

Adorecream

I am moving it up to 9 now, still love it.

.

Can't believe the amount of hate, people giving it 3 or 0, honestly you people are insatiable ophirs. It's time to leave the org and go to another site. Seems all the haters choose to mark it first. How does an album get 0/10, that is just ridiculous. Go and listen to your Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj and the latest rap dance they have this week.

.

It is a really good album, but you would not know from all the haterz. In the old days the org was objective and intelligent, but now its ruined with the trolls who hate everything, start joke threads about Prince in drag or having anal sex and it is just less pleasurable than it was in the old days (Late 2000s)

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #87 posted 12/17/15 5:42pm

KCOOLMUZIQ



nod
[Edited 12/17/15 18:45pm]
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #88 posted 12/17/15 5:50pm

funksterr

Adorecream said:

I am moving it up to 9 now, still love it.

.

Can't believe the amount of hate, people giving it 3 or 0, honestly you people are insatiable ophirs. It's time to leave the org and go to another site. Seems all the haters choose to mark it first. How does an album get 0/10, that is just ridiculous. Go and listen to your Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj and the latest rap dance they have this week.

.

It is a really good album, but you would not know from all the haterz. In the old days the org was objective and intelligent, but now its ruined with the trolls who hate everything, start joke threads about Prince in drag or having anal sex and it is just less pleasurable than it was in the old days (Late 2000s)


lol Um.... alrighty then.

[Edited 12/17/15 17:51pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #89 posted 12/17/15 6:12pm

KingSausage

avatar

It's a very solid 8.5 to me still. Overall a damn strong album. I couldn't care less if it's more of a compilation of whatnot. I love every song except for Baltimore, which I enjoy musically but just wish the lyrics were stronger.

Look at Me, Look at U. When She Comes. Big City. Revelation. RNRLA. 2Y2D. Xtraloveable. Stare. Black Muse. I really, really like these songs.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 3 of 4 <1234>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Phase 2 On A Scale Of 1 to 10? Too Soon?