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Reply #30 posted 07/05/15 12:31pm

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Prince's open letter to Madonna:

http://prince.org/msg/7/144172

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Reply #31 posted 07/05/15 12:55pm

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"2 Those Who Know The #, and Don't Call.....&@$% all Y'all!"

biggrin eek biggrin razz biggrin lol

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Reply #32 posted 07/05/15 12:58pm

Linn4days

"D@mn, Delores pick another subject.. Please?"

lol wink razz eek biggrin lol

"....Noone could be more made-up than U"

"Nothing's left for guessing...What a shame..Boo-Hoo!"

"I call U a friend, but it must be a sin...and I've run-out of cheeks to turn....."

Could it be?...Nahhh... lol lol lol This would be after the "dwarf" comment..Maddy was dissing a lot of folk back then...

She admitted it on CNN's Larry King during "Ray of Light" interview..

The WB's 2 Top HOFers....Big $$$$ Makers... Classmates.

She was around him after the split with WB.....or visited Paisley...

[Edited 7/5/15 13:08pm]

[Edited 7/5/15 13:08pm]

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Reply #33 posted 07/05/15 7:33pm

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They've dated before,but I think Madonna would be an excellent wife for Prince right now biggrin She's strong,independent and extremely wealthy.In other words,she would be his equal.He's dated alot of young airheads that he can control....he finally needs a strong woman for a change.


At this stage in his life why would he bother marrying a woman like madonna? He is almost 60...I dont think he needs the headache..
Baby, you're a star.

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Reply #34 posted 07/05/15 7:49pm

1contessa

BillieBalloon said:

SoulAlive said:

They've dated before,but I think Madonna would be an excellent wife for Prince right now biggrin She's strong,independent and extremely wealthy.In other words,she would be his equal.He's dated alot of young airheads that he can control....he finally needs a strong woman for a change.

At this stage in his life why would he bother marrying a woman like madonna? He is almost 60...I dont think he needs the headache..

Exactly, he's already been through 2 marriages, he doesn't need a 3rd one, especially not with Madonna!

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Reply #35 posted 07/06/15 5:27am

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Se7en said:

There's also Prince's open letter to Madonna during his WB battle. He wanted her to help him get his masters back.

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Wasn't that the koo-koo letter? About him having had a dream?

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Reply #36 posted 07/06/15 5:28am

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CharismaDove said:

breakdown2k14 said:

very good thread! could someone please post the 1990 picture of prince and madonna together please ?


Damn Prince shave that chest man eek And am I the only one who thinks their outfits look wack as hell? lol.

[Edited 7/4/15 18:24pm]

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Isn't this a photoshoped picture?

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Reply #37 posted 07/06/15 7:24am

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I remember that Madonna saw him at Radi City Hall on ACT I Tour but she said something like boring... Does anyone know about this??

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Reply #38 posted 07/06/15 10:53am

EvilAngel

BartVanHemelen said:

CharismaDove said:


Damn Prince shave that chest man eek And am I the only one who thinks their outfits look wack as hell? lol.

[Edited 7/4/15 18:24pm]

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Isn't this a photoshoped picture?

It is.

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Reply #39 posted 07/06/15 10:57am

EvilAngel

BartVanHemelen said:

Se7en said:

There's also Prince's open letter to Madonna during his WB battle. He wanted her to help him get his masters back.

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Wasn't that the koo-koo letter? About him having had a dream?

Yes.

Madonna: artist 2 artist, eye am sure u understand the connection eye feel
2 my music. U more than any1 at Time Warner knows the patience and care
with which we give birth 2 creation... and u maybe moreso than any1 knows
how much a new artist longs 2 find a place amongst "the chosen few" 2
flaunt those creations (and at the same time put food on one's table).
Music lawyers, managers and execs make deals best suited 4 their futures
as well as urs in most cases... OWNERSHIP OF MASTER RECORDINGS IS ALMOST
NEVER AN ISSUE! (let's remember, it was 1978!)

Eye dreamt of u and eye at the Grammy Awards and felt a need 2 write this
letter 2 u. In my dream, eye approached u and asked u if u remembered me,
and u said "sure"... u were on ur way up 2 receive 1 of numerous awards u
will no doubt receive that night, and eye asked u 2 help me with my fight
2 retain ownership of my legacy and u said, "eye don't own ur masters,
Time Warner does... if it was my company, u could have them."

"But eye say 2 u, dear sister, it IS ur company as long as u remain in
their graces... 4 all Artists, Madonna, make a stand 4 what is RIGHT...
surely they will listen 2 u!" In the dream u seemed 2 feel me and yet u
were a bit non-committal... so as u approached the podium, eye followed u,
and as we stood side by side, eye said, "b glad this a commercial break!"
and eye walked offstage and looked 4 Wyclef. Interpretaions aside, artist
2 artist, "U Can Help Us... and eye know u will becuz u REMEMBER ME."

haha

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Reply #40 posted 07/06/15 11:01am

feeluupp

BartVanHemelen said:

CharismaDove said:


Damn Prince shave that chest man eek And am I the only one who thinks their outfits look wack as hell? lol.

[Edited 7/4/15 18:24pm]

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Isn't this a photoshoped picture?

Yes it is. Was photoshopped and Madonna posted it on her instragram for TBT a while back.

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Reply #41 posted 07/06/15 4:15pm

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jaawwnn said:

Am I the only person in the world (besides KCOOl) who thinks Love Song is an awesome track?


No way! It's a very good song.
We're gonna need a bigger boat
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Reply #42 posted 07/07/15 4:47am

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langebleu said:

Prince's open letter to Madonna:

http://prince.org/msg/7/144172

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I recall that L4OA had posted something fairly sane the previous day or week, and after they posted this Diana Dawkins wrote in her newslatter The Prince Family something along the lines of how utterly disappointing it was to see that Prince seemed to be growing up one week only to retread further into childish behavior the next.

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Reply #43 posted 07/07/15 5:20am

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Would love to see both of them perform Love Song live. biggrin
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."

"Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?"

"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #44 posted 07/08/15 10:14pm

CharismaDove

feeluupp said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Isn't this a photoshoped picture?

Yes it is. Was photoshopped and Madonna posted it on her instragram for TBT a while back.


whoa really? but why would Madonna post a photoshopped pic with the caption 'tbt'...?

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #45 posted 07/09/15 11:12am

EvilAngel

CharismaDove said:

feeluupp said:

Yes it is. Was photoshopped and Madonna posted it on her instragram for TBT a while back.


whoa really? but why would Madonna post a photoshopped pic with the caption 'tbt'...?

I'm just wondering why she posted such a shitty pic. confused

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Reply #46 posted 07/09/15 12:35pm

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Are there really pictures of Prince and Madonna any time from the 1980s? I've seen the '07 Oscar one and the '99 Versace party one, but none from the 80s.

Madonna and Prince dated for a short time in 1985, at a time when both were pretty much on top of the world. From several different biographies (of both stars), it seems it was mostly fucking. There was also an entertaining story I read where the both of them got super drunk and started performing a striptease on top of a table at a restaurant. And something about Prince taking her panties with him lol Supposedly she was dating Sean Penn at the same time and he became wildly jealous, smashing a hole in her apartment wall. Prince came the next day and helped Madonna fix it. J. Randy Taraborrelli --- who's documented people such as MJ, Madonna, Cher --- claimed in his biography about her that Prince wanted to become serious, but she rejected him. However, this is the only place I've ever read that... in all other Madonna (and Prince) biographies, it seems the two just became bored of each other and both moved on. After all, Prince had something going on with Susannah at that time and Madonna was falling for Sean Penn. But regardless of the fact she wasn't very interested in Prince anymore by the end, she was still pissed at the fact he suddenly broke off communication with her and stopped responding to her calls. I think her quote was something like, "nobody breaks up with Madonna" LOL... they sort of clashed even whilst dating. Madonna was much more down-to-earth and, dare I say it, normal. Prince was still in his whole "too cool to eat, very mysterious" kind of phase and this annoyed her.

I've heard some say that they rekindled their romance in 1988/89, but I doubt it. However they did work on Like a Prayer and Prince contributed electric guitar to a few tracks. IMO, their duet "Love Song" was highly disappointing, though. I expected so much better. Prince sounds best in his deep bass voice when collaborating with a female artist. Ah well..

I find it interesting that you said "he didn't really like her and ofund her overly sexual ways too much for him" lol I mean, this was the man who wanted to "fuck the taste out of your mouth" and made a video of him getting whipped by his female bandmembers. He also encouraged his female protegees to push the "sexual yet independent" look, which is similar to Madonna's at the time. I think you may be confusing him with Michael Jackson and even Whitney Houston (who both had an issue with Madonna's -- and Prince's -- rampant sexuality). As for the "Dinner with Delores" track, PrinceVault says it was recorded in April 1996... I'm not sure why YEARS later, Prince would write a song about Madonna's eating habits. I'm pretty sure this is just one of those rumors that's flown because a few people believe it. As far as I know, there's no evidence proving that the song is about Madonna. I've heard that the song "A Love Bizarre" was written about his sexual exploits with her ("it gets kind of rough in the back of our limousine").

I think the only time Madonna really dissed him was in 1994, when she supposedly called him a "dwarf". I'd love to see somebody back this up... I've never seen it in print, but if she did say that then well damn LOL. Other than that, she has always been corteous when speaking of Prince. In 2007 they took that pic at the Oscars, and 1 year ago she posted a pic of the two of them together in 1991/92 (Prince had his Diamonds And Pearls haircut/beard) with a cool caption.. something like "no kingdom is complete without its PRINCE". And let us not forget that ill-fated 1999 letter lol But bad blood? I highly doubt it.

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"NEIL: How did you get to be managed by Michael Jackson’s manager (in those days) Freddy DeMann?

MADONNA: I thought “I must have a manager.” I thought ‘Who’s the most successful person in the music industry and who’s his manager? I want him.” I went out to L.A. to meet him and at the time he was Michael Jackson’s manager. He came out to New York and saw a show at Studio 54 (famous disco club in the early ’80s) I did for Fiorucci and I was so nervous because Michael Jackson’s so incredible live and I thought “If he thinks Prince is terrible — which he did — what can I do?” Then he liked the show."

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Interviewer: You, Prince and Michael Jackson were all born in the same year, 1958–

Madonna: I know. Isn’t that weird? And I think Michael’s birthday is right near mine, in August…there are so many Leos in my life. I’m August 16.

Interviewer: The three of you have had such an enormous effect on popular music. Yet recently it seems that both Prince’s and Michael Jackson’s connection with the world has weakened while yours has strengthened and become more intimate and personal. Do you feel that?

Madonna: Yes. I think because I stay in touch with the world, and I think that Michael Jackson and Prince have really isolated themselves. And they live very isolated lives. There’s so much fearfulness and so much inhibition that comes with when you become a celebrity and you’re in the public eye all the time; I think you really have to fight that temptation to go into hiding and surround yourself with people who protect you and keep life out from you. I don’t want to live that way. I don’t want to crawl into a hole. I don’t want to go around with six bodyguards, you know?

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Spin : So many of your contemporaries have hit the skids, and even great talents like Prince, Michael Jackson, George Michael, U2, and R.E.M. are not so selling huge numbers, are not getting the same respect they once did. You’re still selling records, still moving ahead creatively. Why is that ?

Madonna : Everybody you mentioned is extremely talented, so I don’t think it has to do with talent. It’s a tricky life we lead. You really have to find that place of caring but not caring what people think. Where you are desirous of things and you want to be successful and you want to make music that reaches people but you also can detach yourself from it. That’s really hard to do.

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But going back to Prince and Michael Jackson, it’s never too late to start being a human being. If they could just try being something close to that, then that would be the way to … I mean, f**k salvation in the public eye, I’m just talking about being happy in your private life. Just being able to go to a basketball game or for a bike ride. I can’t imagine either of those guys putting on sweat pants and sneakers and going for a run, playing outside with a dog or just being silly and hanging out with your friends without your make-up on. You know what I mean? I don’t think they do that.” - M, 2001

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Madonna picked When Doves Cry as her alltime lifechanging track on Radio 1 where she’s currently the guest host with Jo Whiley. She muttered something about not wanting to take her shades off, then spoke about how she first heard Doves listening to her walkman while cycling home to her new NY flat when she ‘was just realising what the world may have in store for her’. They played the full version, a few callers sent emails to say ‘Wow, Madonna’s a Prince fan, it doesn;t get any better’ and ‘That song send chills up my spine. Fantastic choice, Madonna’.

Wiley then asked about her about meeting Prince, she said he was very shy, but called him a genius.

---

AP: You, Prince and Michael Jackson turn 50 this year. Will you be throwing a big, joint party?

Madonna: If there is, I am not throwing it. I am tired of throwing parties!

AP: Maybe you all could do a Rolling Stone cover together.

Madonna: Really? (smiles) I don’t know. Ask them. I am a little bit tired of being the one who always has to ask everything. You are going to have to go to them.

---

https://lacienegasmiled.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/1991-madonna/

So they've been snarky here and there (like her making fun of Prince's eating habits and him making fun of her.. er.. brood), but I think they do respect each other. He listed her as one of his "favorable mentions" in the '90 Rolling Stone interview.

Awesome post, thx!

There is indeed no reason whatsoever to believe Prince wrote DWD about Madonna. IDK where those nonsensical rumors come from but I suspect either tabloids or koo koo fans. I remember reading here that Strange But True had been written about Vanity, it was a theory an orger had made up and was totally conviced of even though it makes so no sense at all. Another fan claimed that the Face Down video was proof that Prince could play the violin (when there is actually no violin at all in the recording itself falloff ). Some people are strange, they tend to believe what they decide to believe regardless of facts or common sense.

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Reply #47 posted 07/09/15 4:07pm

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amokeru said:

I remember that Madonna saw him at Radi City Hall on ACT I Tour but she said something like boring... Does anyone know about this??

Don't know about that, she was in the audience for one of the shows.

I've got the boot.

I think Prince said "Something's wrong, i think i should be lip-synching!" in her general direction.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #48 posted 07/09/15 6:29pm

rap

CharismaDove said:

breakdown2k14 said:

very good thread! could someone please post the 1990 picture of prince and madonna together please ?


Damn Prince shave that chest man eek And am I the only one who thinks their outfits look wack as hell? lol.

[Edited 7/4/15 18:24pm]

Can anyone provide some context to this photo?

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Reply #49 posted 07/10/15 12:00pm

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Marrk said:

amokeru said:

I remember that Madonna saw him at Radi City Hall on ACT I Tour but she said something like boring... Does anyone know about this??

Don't know about that, she was in the audience for one of the shows.

I've got the boot.

I think Prince said "Something's wrong, i think i should be lip-synching!" in her general direction.


I think the recording was possibly Radio City Music Hall, New York (24 March 1993):


http://www.princevault.co...arch,_1993


but I'm unable to check at the moment.

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Reply #50 posted 07/21/15 1:19pm

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rap said:

CharismaDove said:


Damn Prince shave that chest man eek And am I the only one who thinks their outfits look wack as hell? lol.

[Edited 7/4/15 18:24pm]

Can anyone provide some context to this photo?

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As already explained, it's a (crummy) photoshop.

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Reply #51 posted 07/21/15 4:26pm

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[Edited 7/22/15 15:22pm]

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Reply #52 posted 07/21/15 10:37pm

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Yes, I found a picture.

She is seen here leaving the show with two of her Blond Ambition dancers (Jose and Luiz). Madonna is holding one of the fake newspapers Prince threw into the audience during the show.

file:///Users/amokeru/Desktop/princeconcert11.jpg

langebleu said:

Marrk said:

Don't know about that, she was in the audience for one of the shows.

I've got the boot.

I think Prince said "Something's wrong, i think i should be lip-synching!" in her general direction.


I think the recording was possibly Radio City Music Hall, New York (24 March 1993):


http://www.princevault.co...arch,_1993


but I'm unable to check at the moment.

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Reply #53 posted 07/21/15 10:38pm

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Don't know how to upload a pic so here it is...
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/219/princeconcert11.jpg

amokeru said:

Yes, I found a picture.

She is seen here leaving the show with two of her Blond Ambition dancers (Jose and Luiz). Madonna is holding one of the fake newspapers Prince threw into the audience during the show.

file:///Users/amokeru/Desktop/princeconcert11.jpg

langebleu said:


I think the recording was possibly Radio City Music Hall, New York (24 March 1993):


http://www.princevault.co...arch,_1993


but I'm unable to check at the moment.

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Reply #54 posted 07/22/15 1:15am

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Doesn't anybody remember his open letter to Madonna? lol

Madonna: artist 2 artist, eye am sure u understand the connection eye feel
2 my music. U more than any1 at Time Warner knows the patience and care
with which we give birth 2 creation... and u maybe moreso than any1 knows
how much a new artist longs 2 find a place amongst "the chosen few" 2
flaunt those creations (and at the same time put food on one's table).
Music lawyers, managers and execs make deals best suited 4 their futures
as well as urs in most cases... OWNERSHIP OF MASTER RECORDINGS IS ALMOST
NEVER AN ISSUE! (let's remember, it was 1978!)

Eye dreamt of u and eye at the Grammy Awards and felt a need 2 write this
letter 2 u. In my dream, eye approached u and asked u if u remembered me,
and u said "sure"... u were on ur way up 2 receive 1 of numerous awards u
will no doubt receive that night, and eye asked u 2 help me with my fight
2 retain ownership of my legacy and u said, "eye don't own ur masters,
Time Warner does... if it was my company, u could have them."

"But eye say 2 u, dear sister, it IS ur company as long as u remain in
their graces... 4 all Artists, Madonna, make a stand 4 what is RIGHT...
surely they will listen 2 u!" In the dream u seemed 2 feel me and yet u
were a bit non-committal... so as u approached the podium, eye followed u,
and as we stood side by side, eye said, "b glad this a commercial break!"
and eye walked offstage and looked 4 Wyclef. Interpretaions aside, artist
2 artist, "U Can Help Us... and eye know u will becuz u REMEMBER ME."



falloff

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Reply #55 posted 07/22/15 9:32pm

SoulAlive

^^yeah,that "open letter to Madonna" was sad and pathetic disbelief that was a low point for Prince

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Reply #56 posted 07/22/15 11:13pm

CharismaDove

SoulAlive said:

^^yeah,that "open letter to Madonna" was sad and pathetic disbelief that was a low point for Prince


For his sake, hopefully she never read it wink

[Edited 7/22/15 23:13pm]

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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