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Reply #30 posted 03/25/15 6:04pm

warning2all

I think he has 2-3 Top Shelf albums in the vault-- based on the bootlegs we have heard.

I don't think we are going to get many/any official releases in our lifetime & the way he has ensured the next generation doesn't know he exists, I don't think there will be much of a market for the Vault.

The Vault is almost a monument to hoarding, and mental illness. With no future.
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Reply #31 posted 03/25/15 6:21pm

jstar69

Nothing - that ship has sailed. Remember prince doesn't look back blah blah blah, or so he says! Lol
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Reply #32 posted 03/25/15 7:20pm

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Probably roll over it with his motorbike, just like Wendy and Lisa's tape.

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Reply #33 posted 03/25/15 7:28pm

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jstar69 said:

Nothing - that ship has sailed. Remember prince doesn't look back blah blah blah, or so he says! Lol

Yeah that's a good point, as we all know of course Prince says that a lot. But here's my theory, deep down inside Prince does look back in time, maybe not a lot because maybe he doesn't want to. But I think he looks back more than we think. You take a look at his recent set list or his usual set lists, they're a hit-concerts, so obviously when he's doing those songs, there has to be some type of flashback. And for the set list, he picked it so subconsciously maybe his mind looks back to the past more than Prince knows. And also everyone knows that throughout the years Prince says things to the media to keep us off-guard... to spark 'controversy'... So who knows...
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Reply #34 posted 03/25/15 7:30pm

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robertgeorge said:

Probably roll over it with his motorbike, just like Wendy and Lisa's tape.


Haha!! Or nowadays he'd just destroy it with his cane lol
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Reply #35 posted 03/26/15 2:09am

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He's planning to take it with him, What we haven't been told is that the Vault is actually his Tomb where he will be laid to rest and take his musical treasure with him into the afterlife a Giant boulder will be pushed infront of the opening to prevent anyone from ever getting inside getting their hands on it, its said that he'll have a curse cast upon that will rain down slow and painful deaths and anyone who enters. lol


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Reply #36 posted 03/26/15 3:37am

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fnksoul said:



He's planning to take it with him, What we haven't been told is that the Vault is actually his Tomb where he will be laid to rest and take his musical treasure with him into the afterlife a Giant boulder will be pushed infront of the opening to prevent anyone from ever getting inside getting their hands on it, its said that he'll have a curse cast upon that will rain down slow and painful deaths and anyone who enters. lol


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Cool story, man
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Reply #37 posted 03/26/15 4:11am

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Honestly i believe P rerecorded/ reworked and released many of those songs from the vault. These so called new tracks may be new to us , but not so new at all .


Here's what he said in Mojo April last year:"If you hear a bootleg from 85, it means you're not hearing the finished version." So I'm sure Prince regards the Vault stuff as work in progress, to be finished when he thinks he needs to. So the 2011/12 (I forgot the exact year) version of Extraloveable is, in his mind anyway, the definitive version, not the one from 1982, so there's no need to release that.
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Reply #38 posted 03/26/15 5:08am

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It's very likely that WB prevented Prince to release anything from the vault after 2001, at a time when he was interested in doing it. I think we won't know exactly what happens, if anything, before Prince is free from his new obligations towards WB (he owns the masters but can't use them outside of WB, so he's basically still tied to them).

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Reply #39 posted 03/26/15 5:26am

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databank said:

It's very likely that WB prevented Prince to release anything from the vault after 2001, at a time when he was interested in doing it. I think we won't know exactly what happens, if anything, before Prince is free from his new obligations towards WB (he owns the masters but can't use them outside of WB, so he's basically still tied to them).



Yeah if these were recorded at WB expense at the time then they would have still fallen under their property so he wouldnt have been able to do much with them all these years. But I'd imagine there is still plenty since Warners which there is no explanation who he hasnt done antyhing with them.



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Reply #40 posted 03/26/15 5:28am

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Time is a great healer. I'd imagine a lot of those vault tracks remind him of some emotional outpouring, some good and some bad that he just wanted to forget.

I think he's starting to get to a point in his life where he can look back without the emotion and release the tracks so I'm hopeful one day I'll get the original Empty Room and Old Friends For Sale etc.

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Reply #41 posted 03/26/15 9:06am

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fnksoul said:

databank said:

It's very likely that WB prevented Prince to release anything from the vault after 2001, at a time when he was interested in doing it. I think we won't know exactly what happens, if anything, before Prince is free from his new obligations towards WB (he owns the masters but can't use them outside of WB, so he's basically still tied to them).



Yeah if these were recorded at WB expense at the time then they would have still fallen under their property so he wouldnt have been able to do much with them all these years. But I'd imagine there is still plenty since Warners which there is no explanation who he hasnt done antyhing with them.



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I don't think the timing has ever been right for releasing "a collection of outtakes from the Newpower Soul era" or "10 unreleased tracks from the 3121 sessions", both fans and critics would have reacted with a huge WTF saying "this is not what we want, we want material from the classic years!". I think reasonably, post WB outtakes can only be released alternatively with WB years outtakes. Look at what happened as early as 1998 with Crystal Ball: everyone moaned that the 30 tracks were 10 80's tracks and 20 mid-90's tracks. Prince could have released a 2 CD set of Gold/Come outtakesbut only if he'd released a 3 CD set of 80's outtakes right before that would the fans have said "yeah cool".

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Reply #42 posted 03/26/15 10:08am

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NouveauDance said:

Here's a plan - If everyone stopped going to see him in concert he couldn't make a living from live shows, and would have to... release remasters and vault stuff?

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Reply #43 posted 03/26/15 10:28pm

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Furthermore...

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Yes, P uses vault tracks every now and then.

But only when the track is not too 'dirty'.

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This means that certain vault tracks will not see the light of day during his lifetime and will be inherited by Larry or whoever is alloed to manage his estate.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #44 posted 03/26/15 10:36pm

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Eye agree!!!!

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #45 posted 03/27/15 12:25pm

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If you want to get into the vault, all you need is the "password."

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Reply #46 posted 03/27/15 12:26pm

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databank said:

I don't think the timing has ever been right for releasing "a collection of outtakes from the Newpower Soul era" or "10 unreleased tracks from the 3121 sessions", both fans and critics would have reacted with a huge WTF saying "this is not what we want, we want material from the classic years!". I think reasonably, post WB outtakes can only be released alternatively with WB years outtakes. Look at what happened as early as 1998 with Crystal Ball: everyone moaned that the 30 tracks were 10 80's tracks and 20 mid-90's tracks. Prince could have released a 2 CD set of Gold/Come outtakesbut only if he'd released a 3 CD set of 80's outtakes right before that would the fans have said "yeah cool".

Well, judging by the best material from the 3121 era, which appears to include not only 3121 but also much of Lotusflow3r, I for one would like to hear more if there is unheard stuff of similar quality eg Colonised Mind and 3121 (the track).

And as we know, Prince can be a contrary bird and who knows, maybe he held back the best stuff from the NPS era (remember, the original version of Beautiful Strange was done in '98, then there's great released stuff like Come On, The War and Wasted Kisses that show every day wasn't just another 'Push It Up' type session smile .

Personally, I sense we've already heard most of the best stuff from the 'classic era' (say '82-'87) on official and unofficial releases; there might be another album or two's worth of good/ great unheard studio stuff from the 80s, but I suspect there's unknown material from 1990 onwards that may not be quite as mind-blowing as say, the original '85 Empty Room, but really deserves to be heard by us rabid fans, whatever the artist himself may think.

I for one would love to hear any cool outtakes from The Rainbow Children/ Xenophobia/ NEWS era as much as anything else, as P and the band were on fire back then cool .

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Reply #47 posted 03/28/15 2:35am

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kewlschool said:

If you want to get into the vault, all you need is the "password."


What??? eek
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Reply #48 posted 03/28/15 8:58am

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NorthC said:

kewlschool said:

If you want to get into the vault, all you need is the "password."


What??? eek


The password is what.
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Reply #49 posted 03/28/15 11:47am

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I think he totally has a plan for it, after he's no longer on this earth. I think he is smart enough to know that the vultures would swoop so I think he knows what he's going to do with it.

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Reply #50 posted 03/28/15 1:16pm

Romeoblu

There is at least one classic album sat in there. In my opinion he could put together an album of material from 1985-86 never released that would at least equal Sign O The Times.

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Reply #51 posted 03/28/15 4:26pm

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Romeoblu said:

There is at least one classic album sat in there. In my opinion he could put together an album of material from 1985-86 never released that would at least equal Sign O The Times.



It seems that the CB/Camille/DF trilogy has become the Godwin pont of the org.

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Reply #52 posted 03/28/15 4:38pm

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fnksoul said:



He's planning to take it with him, What we haven't been told is that the Vault is actually his Tomb where he will be laid to rest and take his musical treasure with him into the afterlife a Giant boulder will be pushed infront of the opening to prevent anyone from ever getting inside getting their hands on it, its said that he'll have a curse cast upon that will rain down slow and painful deaths and anyone who enters. lol


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Reply #53 posted 03/28/15 5:08pm

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KingSausage said:

NorthC said:
What??? eek
The password is what.

What's the password?

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Reply #54 posted 03/28/15 5:13pm

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I think there should be something like what he did with "Crystal Ball". It could be "Crystal Ball 2" or whatever.. He release what he wants on there and then he doesn't have to remaster any of his albums... So it will be like a compromise.
Perhaps this compromise could work
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Reply #55 posted 03/28/15 5:31pm

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I've lost hope that any significant collection from the Vault will ever be released.

His stance of not looking back and his now vs then religious beliefs gives me the opinion that Prince is ashamed of much of what his past music had to say. Compare Controversy lyrics with The Gold Standard's. It's like he forgets that it's as much about the journey as it is the goal. imo

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We buy every official release but he's allowing the bootlegger's to kick his...

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Reply #56 posted 03/29/15 7:30am

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a good way to 're-purpose' vault tracks would be to do a triple album box set from different eras - one from the 80s (Roadhouse Garden)/90's (The Dawn)/00s (Madrid 2 Chicago) for instance.

basically package 'lesser' stuff with more sort after material.

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Reply #57 posted 03/29/15 12:52pm

luvsexy4all

maybe when he finds some one he can trust to help him..

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Reply #58 posted 03/30/15 6:19am

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luvsexy4all said:

maybe when he finds some one he can trust to help him..


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Reply #59 posted 03/31/15 12:59am

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KingSausage said:

NorthC said:
What??? eek
The password is what.

Exactly.

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