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Prince & the Time 1980-1984 and the further adventures of...

Throughout Prince's career, he has been involved with a succession of protégés and side-projects. This story envelop a fascinating insight into Prince's production and songwriting techniques. Many of the artists have become stars in their own right. Perhaps most famous and successful of all of this musical projects have been ... THE TIME.


Oberheim synthesizer

Sunset Sound

The Idolmaker

Morris Day, Jesse Johnson, Jerome Benton, Monte Moore,Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis

Jellybean Johnson Lincoln Junior High classmate

Grand Central, Flyte Time,

Sharon Hughes (background vocals)

Sue Ann Carwell, Alexander O'Neal
Lisa Coleman Dez Dickerson Dr Fink Andre Cymone
JJ

The Starr ★ Company

Jamie Starr

It's all about self-respect...to take pride in who you are, the way you dress and groom, and the way you walk & talk. -Morris Day

Party Up

Oh Baby

Cool
Get It Up

Girl

My Stick

the Walk

Wild & Loose
OneDayImGonnaBeSomebody

I Don't Wanna Leave U

777-9311

After Hi School
Gigolos Get Lonely Too

Grace

Jerk Out [What Time Is It? studio sessions]

Colleen [What Time Is It? studio sessions]

2 Friends of mine got lost in the snow

Jungle Love
the Bird

Chili Sauce ie Proposition #17

Tonight, hey, I'm a Movie Star

Ice Cream Castles

My Drawers

If the Kid Can't Make U Come

Cloreen Bacon Skin

Tricky

Chocolate [Ice Cream Castles studio sessions]

My Love Belongs 2 U [Ice Cream Castles studio sessions]

My Summertime Thang [Ice Cream Castles studio sessions]

Velvet Kitty Kat [Ice Cream Castles studio sessions]

Data Bank #1

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Reply #1 posted 03/02/15 1:19pm

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Once upon a time ... exactly in April 1981 [Prince] creates THE TIME as an outlet for some of his most funky and danceable R&B material. The project was made possible when he signed a contract with Warner Bros. Records, that allowed him to develop and record other acts. After the considerable success the record company had achieved with his 1979 album "Prince" and the hit-single "I wanna be your lover" (which sold more than 1 million copies and hit #1 at the R&B Charts and #11 at the Pop-Charts) in the black marketplace, the record company was very interested when [Prince] presented them with more of the same. By creating THE TIME, [Prince] was able to continue on the path of his 1980 album "Dirty Mind" and explore other musical genres that would not label him as a R&B artist. His ideas about creating an alter-ego group was reinforced by a 1980 motion picture entitled "The Idolmaker". Directed by Taylor Hackford, this movie is a revealing and entertaining glimpse of the process behind the invention of pop stars. It was based on the career of Bob Marcucci, who pulled the strings for Fabian and Frankie Avalon in the '50s.

Sue Ann Carwell did a stint as lead singer before getting a solo contract, and also Alexander O'Neal took over. He was [Prince]'s first choice as lead singer for THE TIME, but he finally declined his offer by saying "If there isn't going to be a bunch of money, then I'm not in.". Alexander O'Neil later released more than 10 albums and collected three gold records - THE TIME released only 4 albums but got three gold and one platinum.

Finally [Prince] envisioned THE TIME as a cool, street-wise funk band, with [Morris Day] as the lead singer. The songs [Prince] tailored for the band were unpretentious and well humored, mostly concerned with love, sex, style, attitude, partying and money. Containing none of the spiritual or socio-political concerns that he dealt with on his own albums. Part of [Prince]'s incentive for involving [Morris Day] in THE TIME was to repay him for the use of his track "Partyup" on [Prince]'s 1980 album "Dirty Mind".

THE TIME's further line-up was basically created around a Minneapolis funk band called Flyte Tyme. This band, named after a song by jazz artist Donald Byrd, was founded by [Jellybean Johnson] (drums) and [Terry Lewis] (bass) and had exist in different incarnations since around 1973. [Monte Moir] and [Jimmy Jam] (both keyboards) had also played with Flyte Tyme many times ago. [Jesse Johnson] (guitar) was finally enlisted by [Morris Day], who remembered him from an audition for his former band Enterprise. Cynthia Johnson was one of Flyte Tyme's early lead singers until she left to sing with Lipps Inc., who had a huge hit with "Funkytown" in 1980.

Andre Cymone, who played bass in [Prince]'s band, had been very involved in THE TIME project from the beginning. He was also assembling a girl group, called "The Girls", and saw the side projects as an opportunity to supplement his relatively small income from being a band member only. Andre claimed that he came up with many of the ideas for THE TIME before being muscled out of the project, wich led into falling out with [Prince]. The relationship between Andre Cymone and [Prince] had been deteriorating for some time. Andre felt, that he didn't receive enough credits for his input into [Prince]'s music and stage act, even accusing [Prince] of knowing stealing his ideas. He decided to leave [Prince]'s band and embark a solo-career. He accepted to participate in the upcoming european tour, but he left the band immediately afterwards.

Lisa Coleman later also reported, that [Prince] pulled stunts like turning home studio jams with [Morris Day] and her into material for THE TIME and another side-project, Vanity 6

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Reply #2 posted 03/02/15 1:29pm

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http://production.tweakto...dna/page/6

I was left a photo of the front of my condo—sort of—by Morris Day & The Time, who used my steps as the set for their debut album cover 30 years ago.

Medium_photoforfutureresident_tweak

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Reply #3 posted 03/03/15 4:04am

iZsaZsa

It still looks bad ass.
What?
Reply #4 posted 03/03/15 7:32am

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This year[7.29.1981] marks the 30th anniversary of Morris Day's first album with the Time, a self-titled effort of synthesizer-driven party-funk written by Prince and members of his Revolution. It sent two singles to the upper reaches of the Billboard R&B charts - "Get It Up," which featured an explosive Prince solo, and "Cool."

Q: This year marks the 30th anniversary of the Time's first album. Was that a good experience working with Prince on that one?

Morris Day: It was a great experience. We were all young and had no idea where the whole thing was going. So all those efforts back then were just innocent creative moments where we were just doing what we do and had no idea that it was going to take off the way it did.

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Reply #5 posted 03/03/15 7:35am

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The Time, home studio, April 1981 – album mixed in late April
Get It Up (9:05)*
Girl (5:34)*
After Hi School (4:20)* (Dez Dickerson)
Cool (10:06)* (Prince/Dez Dickerson)
Oh, Baby #2 (4:57)*
The Stick (8:23)* (Lisa Coleman/Prince)

Home studio, autumn-winter 1981
The Second Coming (1:58) (autumn)
Baby I’m A Star #1 (autumn/winter)
Rearrange #1 (7/12)
Baby I’m A Star #2 (7-8/12)
Let’s Work (Dance Remix) (8:02)* (8/12)
Feel U Up #1 (6:38) – segued with
Irresistible Bitch #1 (4:36) (winter)
Jerk Out #1 (late 1981) (Prince/Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis/Morris Day)

July 29. 1981 rel The Time[self titled album]

1.Get It Up
2.Girl
3.After Hi School After hi school is registered to Morris Day, yet it was actually written and demoed by Dez Dickerson
4.Cool Cool is registered as a collaboration of [Prince] (music) with Desmond "Dez" Dickerson (lyrics).
5.Oh, Baby
6.The Stick:The stick was originally written by Lisa Coleman, but it was registered to Jamie Starr.

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Prince initiated this album before the band had even been assembled. The record was completed in only two weeks in April 1981 at his home studio in the basement of his house at Lake Riley in Chanhassen, Minneapolis. Only Oh, Baby was recorded in April 1979 at Alpha Studios in Los Angeles during the sessions for his own 1979 album "Prince". The final mixing of the tapes took place at Hollywood Sunset Sound in Los Angeles, from 28th to 30th April 1981. [Prince] himself plays more or less every note on the album. Matt Fink delivers synthesizer solos on Get it up and The stick, while Lisa Coleman provides some backing vocals on Cool and The Stick. Prince's own voice is often audible in the final mix.

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On 29th July 1981 the first album [The Time] was released by Warner Bros. Records. The credits listed [Morris Day] (lead vocals), [Jesse Johnson] (guitar), [Terry Lewis] (bass), [Jellybean Johnson] (drums) as well as [Monte Moir] and [Jimmy Jam] (both keyboards) as the members of the band. The production credit is shared by [Morris Day] with a guy named Jamie Starr, who had been first introduced as an engineer on [Prince]'s 1980 album "Dirty Mind". Neither record nor sleeve contains any songwriting credits. The music itself bears all the hallmarks of [Prince]'s synth-based Minneapolis-Sound and it didn't take long before stories start to circulating at the press, that [Prince] himself was behind this project - writing all songs, playing mosts instruments and producing the complete album, only utilizing [Morris Day] to add some vocals on the final mix.

O F F I C I A L A L B U M C R E D I T S

All jams published by Tionna Music. Produced by [Morris Day] and [Jamie Starr]. Additional background on Cool done by various girlfriends. Recorded at Time Studio. Mixed at Hollywood Sound. Engineered and mixed by [Jamie Starr]. Originally mastered by Bernie Grundman. CDD pre-mastering by WCI Record Group. Personal Management: Cavallo, Ruffalo & Fargnoli. Photography: Al Beaulieu. THE TIME is [Terry Lewis] (bass, co-lead and background vocals, [Jimmy Jam] (keyboards and vocals), [Morris Day] (lead and background vocals), [Monte Moir] (keyboards and vocals), [Jellybean Johnson] (drums and percussion), [Jesse Johnson] (guitar and vocals).

Liner Notes: THE TIME, originally named Flyte Tyme after a song by jazzman Donald Byrd, was formed in Minneapolis in the mid-70s as a rock & roll trio. The group eventually evolved into a stylish show band complete with horns. The group's original singer, Cynthia Johnson, went to join Lipps, Inc. and scored with the hit "Funkytown" in 1980. In 1981, under the creative auspices of [Prince], the group recruited vocalist [Morris Day] to front the new TIME. [Morris Day], formerly a drummer of [Prince]'s high school band, added flash and finesse to the group's visual image along with a knack for writing hit songs. The rest of the group consisted of founding members [Terry Lewis] (bass) and [Jellybean Johnson] (drums), [Jesse Johnson] (guitar), keyboardists [Monte Moir] and [Jimmy 'Jam' Harris] and the group's valet, [Jerome Benton]. THE TIME won over concert audiences as an opening act for [Prince] and soon earned a loyal following of their own. Fans mobbed the stage during the group's performances, dazzled by [Morris Day]'s charismatic cool, which included stopping mid-song to comb his hair in a mirror held by [Jerome]. THE TIME's self titled debut album for Warner Bros. Records was released in the summer of 1981. Produced by the group with [Prince] (under the moniker 'Jamie Starr'), the album contained six TIME originals, including three hit singles Get it up, Cool and Girl.

R E A L A L B U M C R E D I T S

Published by Tionna Music ASCAP. Produced & arranged by [Prince] as Jamie Starr. All tracks written by [Prince] as Jamie Starr except Cool written by [Prince] as Jamie Starr with Dez Dickerson, After hi school written by Dez Dickerson and The stick written by Lisa Coleman. Performed by [Prince] (all instruments, lead and background vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) as THE TIME. Synthesizer solos on Get it up and The stick by Matt Fink. Background vocals on Cool and The stick by Lisa Coleman. Recorded at [Prince]'s home studio in the basement of his house at Lake Riley in Chanhassen. Mixed at Sunset Sound.
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Reply #6 posted 03/03/15 7:50am

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Reply #7 posted 03/03/15 8:59am

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1.) Morris 2.)William Doughty 3.) Andre 'Cymone' Anderson 4.) Linda Anderson

Pepé moved to Minneapolis and began working with Prince in 1974-75. It wasn't long before he realized that Prince was more than good, he was a phenomenal musician, and a singer as well. He also showed a deep desire and serious determination to make it. It was at this point that Pepé committed himself to passing the THE KNOWLEDGE to Prince; and Prince listened and listened.

Like Prince and the group he was in, Grand Central (a.k.a. Grand Central Station), most local musicians were performing cover tunes and not even thinking about writing and recording original material. Prince was about to change all that. He was about to start the ripple in the water that eventually grew to become internationally recognized as the "Minneapolis Sound."
Pepé had been working with Grand Central on a regular basis. He remembers some of the rehearsals they held in an attic in South Minneapolis:

Prince was on guitar, André Anderson (now known as André Cymone), was on bass, Morris Day (later of The Time) was on drums, Linda Anderson (André's sister) was on keyboard and William Doughty was on Percussion. I remember asking them to play one of their original songs. It was a disaster. Of course, there was raw talent there, but when they began to sing, everyone was singing something different. Prince was singing "she", André was singing "he", the rest of the group was singing something else; and the name of the song was You Remind Me of Me (written by André). I couldn't believe they didn't take the time as a group to learn the words. So I had them put down their instruments and start learning the lyrics. You know , it was like Song Construction 101 had begun. Of course, my No. 1 student was Prince.



Prince and Pepé spent the next several months working intensely with Grand Central. As Pepé recalls it . . .

I taught them about song construction, singing together, the best ways to rehearse together, but I didn't have to tell Prince anything more than once. Even though the members of Grand Central were talented musicians, they were still 'kids' and they often acted like it. These guys would laugh and tell jokes all the time. Prince would show-off doing gymnastics in our living room. Man, that was great! They especially loved to tease Wendell Thomas, the bass player from 94 East by writing funny little names and comments about him on the chalkboard.

Grand Central had made quite a bit of progress when Pepé decided to bring them into Cookhouse Recording Studios in 1975. Prince was so excited! Arrangements had been made for Grand Central to play for a co-owner of Cookhouse. He was fairly impressed with their original material, but then asked them to do one of their cover songs, an Earth, Wind and Fire tune. Unfortunately, they played Earth, Wind and Fire better than they played Grand Central. They were not ready. Back to practice

Prince(keyboards) Andre Cymone(bass) Morris(drums

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Reply #8 posted 03/03/15 10:07am

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Image:Cool single.jpg

Producer(s)Prince (The Starr ★ Company)
Writer(s):Prince (music) and Dez Dickerson (lyrics) (uncredited)

Cool" is a song by The Time, released as the second single from their eponymous debut album. Like most of the album, the song was recorded in Prince's home studio in April 1981, and was produced, arranged, and performed by Prince with Morris Day later adding his lead vocals. The song was co-written with Revolution guitarist Dez Dickerson and contains background vocals by keyboardist Lisa Coleman, however both were uncredited.

The classic video for the song is directed by Chuck Statler, who is best known for directing the early Devo videos

-Wiki

Recording Personnel
  • Morris Day - vocals and drums
  • Prince- background vocals and all instruments, except where noted (uncredited)
  • Lisa Coleman - background vocals (listed as "various girlfriends")

-PrinceVault

Cool

I got a penthouse in Manhattan
2 more in Malibu
I bought a '87 Cadillac Seville
Girl, I got a Mazerati 2
I wear diamonds on my fingers
I got a couple on my toes
I wear the finest perfume money can buy
It keeps me smellin' like a rose
If U wonder how I do it
There's just one simple rule
I'm just cool (Cool)
Oh oh - Honey, baby can't U see?
Girl, I'm so cool (Cool)
Ain't nobody bad like me, hey

(C-O-O-L) What's that spell?
(C-O-O-L)

I might dine in San Francisco
Dance all night in Rome
I go any freakin' place I want 2
And my lear jet brings me home (Listen darlin')
I got ladies by the dozens
I got money by the ton
Just ain't nobody better
Heaven knows that I'm the one

And it's all because of something
That I didn't learn in school
I'm just cool (Cool)
Cool - Honey, baby can't U see?
Girl, I'm so cool (Cool)
Cool - Ain't nobody bad like me

Sing it, baby
(C-O-O-L) What's that spell?
(C-O-O-L) That spell cool

(Cool) Cool
Sweeter than sex
(Cool) That spell cool
(Cool) Cool
So what U think?
(Cool) Cool

What time is it? Ooh

Listen baby, it takes a lot of lovin' and a little money
2 be a friend of mine
But baby, if U know how 2 shake that thing
I'll try 2 squeeze a little time
Cuz I make love, love every mornin'
2 who's ever by my side
Well, U might say that I'm a nymphomaniac
But it keeps me satisfied

When I look into the mirror
It just tells me something I already know
I'm so cool (Cool)
Cool - Honey, baby can't U see?
Girl, I'm so cool (Cool)
Cool - Ain't nobody bad like me

Sing it
(C-O-O-L) What's that spell?
(C-O-O-L) What time is it?

More (Cool)
I'm so cool (Cool)
Cool (Cool)
And I'm so cool (Cool)
Band

(C-O-O-L) {x2}
Cool, that's right
I'm cooler than Santa Claus, baby
Oh, mm hmm
Ain't nobody bad like me
Somebody pinch me
I must be dreamin'
I know that's right, honey
Cuz there ain't nobody bad like me
What time is it?
Is it time 2 get my hair done yet?
I said, "What time is it?"
Time 2 just walk and shake my head
I'm cool 'til I'm dead
Enough has been said
Come on, baby, let's go 2 bed
Everybody
Walk, shake my head
Cool 'til I'm dead
Enough has been said
Let's go 2 bed

When I look into the mirror
It just tells me something I already know
I'm so cool (Cool)
Ain't nobody bad like me
Oh, I'm so cool (Cool)
I said ain't nobody bad like me

All 2gether now
(C-O-O-L) What's that spell?
(C-O-O-L)

Band? (Yes!)
Is anybody hot? (No!)
U know why? (Why?)
Cuz we're cool (Cool!)

Oh, I'm so cool

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Reply #9 posted 03/03/15 10:36am

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Video Clip: THE TIME - Cool (1981)

The classic video for the song is directed by Chuck Statler, who is best known for directing the early Devo videos

-Wiki

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Reply #10 posted 03/03/15 11:33am

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November 14th, 1981 • Soul Train

TV-Show Details

First Aired: November 14th, 1981
Episode-No.: Season 11 • #375
Host: Don Cornelius
Director: J.D. Lobue
Guest Stars: The Time, Patti LaBelle, James Wesley Jackson
Hompage: [http://www.soultrain.com]

1. Get it up
2. Cool

Line-Up

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Reply #11 posted 03/03/15 11:54am

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The stick was originally written by Lisa Coleman, but it was registered to Jamie Starr.

initial tracking took place in April, 1981 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio, Chanhassen, MN,

Matt Fink delivers synthesizer

Lisa Coleman (listed as "various girlfriends")background vocals))

Terry Lewis (background vocals)

all other known instruments by Jamie Starr

Lead vocals/Drums by Morris Day

My stick, I just love my stick
Mmm, my stick, I just love my stick

Girl, your ride is bad but U can't compare
2 my baby black Cadillac, oh so rare
Take a vacation, I don't care
Cuz I can get some simulation anywhere

U just come 2 quick, I'd rather work my stick
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride
U just come 2 quick, I'd rather work my stick
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride

Girl, U come 2 quick, much, much 2 quick
Girl, U come 2 quick, I'll just work the stick

Offer me your body, I have 2 pass
Cuz every time we make love, U run out of gas
Girl, my car's so bad it runs on H2O (Oh)
No, U can't compete, it's got the cruise control (No)

U just come 2 quick, I'd rather work my stick
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride
U just come 2 quick, I'd rather work my stick
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride {x2}
Everybody
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride

Girl, U come 2 quick, much, much 2 quick
Girl, U come 2 quick, I have 2 work the stick

I've been drivin', baby, since the age of 13
I'm the baddest driver U've ever seen (Oh)
U know I like it fast and I like it slow
Sometimes I let the top down when I wanna let go
(Oh, everybody sing the song now)

U just come 2 quick, I'd rather work my stick
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride
Everybody
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride
Break down

What time is it?
(Well, your car's 2 slow, baby)
I said "What time is it?"
Oh
Band
Yeah, that's right
Oh
Oh no

U just come 2 quick, I'd rather work my stick

Somebody bring me a mirror so I can uh...
What song we on?

U just come 2 quick, I'd rather work my stick
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride (Oh)

What time is it?
I'm just alright, oh no
Yeah ooh, oh
I don't need U, baby, I'll just work the stick in my ride, yeah ooh
I don't need your action, baby
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride
Sing it
Get a little satisfaction, work the stick in my ride
Everybody

U just come 2 quick, I'd rather work my stick

It's about time 2 go (No)
I said I don't need U girl, hey
Somebody bring me a mirror
So I can look at my stick, hey
Alright
U wanna see it?
Should I take it out?
Take it out, man
Hey
Later y'all

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Reply #12 posted 03/04/15 10:17am

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If anyone knows of or has any interviews with the Time or any of the members from the 1980-1984 period or pieces where a member talks about that time please do share...

'church' organ playing

Ya'll have 2 excuse me

I was going to mention this earlier

But I forgot
I'm not above that

But what we are going to do right here

right now

No not yet not yet just relax, this is my show

We are going to take up a collection, ya know

like they do in church

So as U C the fellas assembling behind me

we're going 2 take advantage of your kind generous hearts

And take a collection

I'll take anything

Money

Phone Numbers

Credit Cards

Your Momma

U don't want her? But the bitch in in the hat

Fella go on out there and take advantage of these kind hearts

That's right bring the house lights up, I like it like that

that way I can see who is giving and who ain't

Now as we know

Brother Prince played here a week or 2 ago

and from what they tell me

he charged $25 a head

I don't know about U but I stayed home that night

that is just a little steap\

No serious that's steap
I got money and everything
But I'd like 2 keep it that way

I want U 2 bear 1 thing in mind

as those hat's come in front of U

And that is

GIVE

GIVE until your heart

until it hearts

Mike Jones I see U out there

I see U laughing

I want 2 C U with your hands in your pocket

What Time Is It?

It's time to put something in that hat

U know what time it is

Come on

Don't throw it at me cause I'll be out there on your ass

Don't throw the shit at me put it in the hat

Alright fellas that's quite enough
We got a show 2 do and we realize that

Thank U so much

Jerome Jerome where u at I need U Jerome

Anyone C Jerome
If they do send him back up to the stage

I know u....

Prince R U out there, did U give?

U took, Did U give?
Jerome where U at, I need U brother

Morris is waiting

I don't have all night

This is my show, this is my stage

Jerome did I get some phone numbers
tell me what I got

lol somebody stole em...

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Reply #13 posted 03/04/15 11:08am

EddieC

The Time... hmmm. Don't know that I've heard of them. I'll have to check them out--I mean, if there's a Prince connection, they might be okay. wink

Actually, I liked that pic of Grand Central--I'd never actually seen it before, so nice inclusion. Though the couple on stage didn't seem to fully appreciate what the three would eventually be. Probably just hearing what they were actually playing instead of the future. Short-sighted people.

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Also, is there an easy way to find all of these "period" or "project" retrospective threads that you do, OF4S? It'd be nice if there were a list somewhere.

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Anyway, I like them, but since I often don't have any thing really to add, I've never said anything much about them. They're a nice addition to Prince.org.

Reply #14 posted 03/04/15 1:10pm

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Dapper brand of 'cool' still suits Time

In the '80s, when backdated attire turned a handful of street-wise musicians into sartorial hipsters, fans nationwide struggled to keep up with The Time.

Inspired by zoot suits, bygone Hollywood glamour and underworld cool, the band scoured hand-me-down shops for designer castoffs to enhance their image as swaggering funk kingpins. Porkpie hats, pleated trousers, wide-shouldered long coats, Morris Day's gold jacket with the tiger-print lapels. OK, not every outfit screamed panache. Some just screamed.

Little has changed, except now they can afford new threads.

"Our first clothing budget was $100," Jesse Johnson remembers. "For all of us."

Sporting flashy suits, shades and fedoras, The Time continues to pride itself on fashion sense. And in typical Time fashion, the band is still behind the times, opting for a Godfather vibe over today's sloppy chic.

It all started with sprees at Minneapolis vintage shops Ragstock and Tatters Clothing.

"We were interested in being cool," Jimmy Jam says. "It was about attitude and feeling good about ourselves, even though we didn't have the money."

Morris had to overcome his retail snobbery. "I ain't going to lie: I was a little apprehensive about going into a used-clothing store," he says. "But that original Presley (suit) came out of Tatters, and I wore it till it fell off."

No designers or stylists played a role in The Time's flamboyant early press photos or videos.

At concerts during the first tour, "every kid was dressed like us, because they could do it cheap," Jesse says. "The prices at Ragstock went way up."

The Time's dapper-duds scheme soon backfired.

Says Jerome Benton, "By the end of the tour, used suits at Aardvark's (in L.A.) were $300."

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Image:Getitup single.jpg

rel 6.26.1981

Get it up (9:08)
recorded april 1981 by [Prince] at his home studio [1]

performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with

[Morris Day] (additional lead vocals)

& Matt Fink (synthesizer solos)

• final mixing 28th-30th april 1981 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited)

• registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1981 on the Album
[The Time]

• 1981 on the promo 12"-Single [Get it up]

• 1984 on the 12"-Single [Ice cream castles]

Get it up (edit / mono) (3:05)
finally released 1981 on the promo 7"-Single [Get it up]

Get it up (edit) (3:05)
finally released 1981 on the promo 7"-Single [Get it up]

• 1981 on the 7"-Single [Get it up]

• 1981 on the promo 12"-Single [Get it up]

Get it up, get ready for a real good time. I'm gonna try to blow your mind.
Can't you see? You and me. It sounds so nasty.

Get it up, let your hair hang down. We could fool around.
Don't you know? I want you so. Make me happy.

Get it up, there's nothin' wrong. We're freakin' all night long.
Me and you. We need a groove. It feels good, do it.

Get it up, leave your cares behind. Let me try to find.
Find the spot. That gets you hot. Let me do ya.

What time is it?

Get it up, get ready for a real good time. I'm gonna try to blow your mind.
Can't you see? You and me. It sounds so nasty.

Get it up, let your body drip. Let me take you on a trip.
Can't you see? You're killin' me. You're so freaky.

Get it up. Get it up. I'll work you all night.

Get it up. Get it up. All night.

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The Time Opening 4 Prince

01.30.1982

@ the Capitol Theatre

1. The Stick

2. Dance 2 the Beat

3. Oh Baby

4. Get It Up

5. Cool


Prince & band

1. Uptown

2. Why U Wanna Treat Me So Bad?

3. I Wanna Be Your Lover

4. Head

5. Dirty Mind

6. Do Me Baby

7. Controversy

8. Let's Work

9. Jack U Off

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After hi school (4:22)
recorded april 1981 by [Prince] at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 28th-30th april 1981 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by Dez Dickerson (uncredited) • registered to [Morris Day]
finally released 1981 on the Album [The Time] • 1981 on the 7"-Single [Get it up]

Seems like nothing's ever gonna change in my world.
Every day is more the same old thing.
But in the spring, I'm gonna graduate from hi school.
Then I won't have to live by anybody else's rules.
Everybody tells me things don't stay the same.
If you wanna live, you gotta play the game.

(chorus)
And they say: Hey you, what you gonna do after hi school?
Hey you, what you, what you gonna do?
And they say: Hey you, what you gonna do after hi school?
Hey you, what you, what you gonna do?

But there's a lot of stuff that I could learn to do in my world.
Learn to drive a truck or maybe even join a band.
My parents tellin' me I got to go to college.
I won't get anywhere if I don't have the knowledge.
Uncle Sam keeps sending letters in the mail.
If you don't register, you're gonna go to jail, gonna go to jail.

(repeat chorus)

Listen to me, listen to me!
Hey you, what you gonna do?
Hey you, what you gonna do after hi school?

I'm talkin' to ya, you stupid slob!
Get a job you bum!

I'm talkin to you.


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Jet: March 1, 1982

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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http://www.eurweb.com/2015/03/steven-ivory-before-uptown-funk-there-was-the-time-watch/

*

*“Uptown Funk,” that Mark Ronson/Bruno Mars collaboration you hear everywhere, is glossy, funk-from-concentrate that uses so many meat by-products from other funk songs—a rhythm guitar lick similar to Roger Troutman and Zapp’s “More Bounce to the Ounce” here; a strategically inserted “Sayyy Whaaaaat?” synonymous with a million funk and hip hop recordings, there—that I’d be surprised if Ronson, when he finished producing the track (with Mars, Jeff Bhasker and Philip Lawrence), didn’t step back from the recording console and declare, a’la Dr. Frankenstein, “It’s Alive!”

However, Ronson reserves the most obvious pinching for the song’s video (he’s the white cat in most of the frames). Indeed, most kiddies today don’t know Mars and his band’s bumptious video antics were no doubt inspired by a band that debuted more than thirty years ago, The Time.

Don’t believe me, just watch…the video: Ronson’s clip features Mars being primped and fussed over by right hand man Philip Lawrence, similar to how The Time’s onstage “valet” Jerome Benton spruces up Time lead singer Morris Day.

*

At some point, Mars purposefully checks his wrist watch to see what time it is—a trademark move of Day (as in, “What Time Is It?” The Time—get it?). Ronson’s clip artfully uses an old Lincoln Continental as a prop; on the cover of Ice Cream Castles, The Time’s third album, members pose sitting on a bright yellow Cadillac.

*

Okay, perhaps I’m reaching with that last one, but I’m convinced Ronson’s title, “Uptown Funk,” was inspired by “Uptown,” the 1980 song (and state of mind) by Prince, The Time’s creator and producer.

All the swaggering Mars and band sing about in “Uptown Funk”, The Time personified in their second single back in the day, the title of which said it all: “Cool.”

I remember how excited people were about the debut of The Time. It was 1980 and the R&B band genre, after dominating the mid-late ‘70s–think Earth, Wind and Fire, Ohio Players, Commodores, Isleys 3+3, Parliament/Funkadelic and Rufus featuring Chaka Khan and bands like the Bar-Kays, New Birth, B.T. Express, Brass Construction, Brick and thumping bass legend Larry Graham’s steamrolling Graham Central Station–was now being represented by a revised Kool and the Gang, the Brothers Johnson and the S.O.S. Band. Earth, Wind & Fire and the Isleys were winding down. Larry Graham was singing ballads.

*

The Time, on the other hand, had the vibe of an underground thing that had a light cast on it by this young cat catching fire out of Minneapolis named Prince. Warner Brothers, for whom both Prince and The Time recorded, issued a press release with the band’s eponymously titled 198l debut LP, claiming for PR sake that Prince stumbled onto the band when he walked into a Minneapolis nightclub while they were onstage.

*

The truth is that he and Morris Day, a drummer, were friends, and Prince himself assembled The Time by recruiting musicians he knew from local Minneapolis area bands. For the first two Time albums, Prince wrote most of the songs, played most of the instruments—synthesizers, guitars, bass and drum machines—and with Day developed the lead singer’s braggadocious lady’s man persona.

*

The studio was one thing, but onstage, The Time (Day, guitarist Jesse Johnson, Jimmy “Jam” Harris and Monte Moir, keyboards; bassist Terry Lewis, Jellybean Johnson, drums; Jerome Benton, percussion, vocals) was real. At Hollywood’s Roxy Theater, scene of the band’s first L.A. performance in 1981, the anticipation was palpable.

They nearly burned down the 500-seat club with a funky, turtleneck-tight set that featured all the irreverence and rebellion that, along with the music, gave The Time its public identity. When Jesse Johnson stepped from the stage and onto the table of a patron sitting at the front of the stage to blaze a guitar solo, we were taken aback. The gall! The attitude! We love this band!

Years later I’d tell Terry Lewis what a great performance the Roxy show was. “Aw, man, that was one of the weakest shows on that tour,” he said. “Most of us had the flu or something that night, and we were feeling miserable.”

After the show, Warner Brothers hosted a private reception for the band, press and assorted VIPs at a restaurant across the street from the club. There, in a corner of the room, was Prince, in that animal print coat and scarf ensemble he often wore before the real money came, standing among Warner execs and people from Cavallo & Ruffalo, the firm that managed Prince and The Time, discussing the show.

*

Prince being the band’s professional mentor didn’t deter him or Morris Day and company, when touring together, from attempting to obliterate one another onstage. When The Time opened the show, their blistering grooves often made it difficult for Prince, whose set was more musically eclectic, to pull the audience back in.

*

During Prince’s 1982/’83 tour, The Time did double duty, playing behind the curtain to supply music for the boss’ girl group, Vanity 6, before performing their own set. Prince got to play behind the curtain, too, for a different reason: when bad weather in Atlanta kept Lewis and Jimmy Jam, moonlighting as independent songwriters/producers, from making a flight to a show in Texas, Prince had Time member Benton–half-brother to Lewis–strap on a bass guitar and pretend to be playing during The Time set, while Prince played the actual bass parts from backstage. Jam and Lewis were fired from the band shortly thereafter, in 1983.

*

Since then, there have been several Time configurations, including short-term reunions of the original members (sometimes performing as the Original 7even, since Prince owns rights to The Time moniker), most of whom launched successful careers as songwriters, producers and bandleaders in their own right.

*

Despite their onstage prowess—and signature songs, “The Bird” and “Jungle Love”–the band biggest single was the 1990 song, “Jerk Out,” which reached #9 on the Billboard pop charts.

No matter. The Time’s musical and visual style influenced countless R&B bands during the ’80s, including The Deele, from which the R&B production team of Antonio “L.A.” Reid and Kenny “Babyface” Edmonds emerged.

*

I like Ronson’s “Uptown Funk.” I believe all the biting in that video is in conscious, humble homage to The Time. In any case, Ronson’s conceptualized dance music serves to expose a new generation to traditional funk. And that’s always cool, no matter what time it is.

Steven Ivory, veteran journalist, essayist and author, writes about popular culture for magazines, newspapers, radio, TV and the Internet. Respond to him via STEVRIVORY@AOL.COM


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Reply #22 posted 03/08/15 4:57pm

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http://production.tweakto...dna/page/6

I was left a photo of the front of my condo—sort of—by Morris Day & The Time, who used my steps as the set for their debut album cover 30 years ago.

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So damn cool worship

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Reply #23 posted 03/08/15 7:34pm

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I love this stuff. Especially since I was ten at the time and I had to wait to get a ride to the record stores just to look at an album or cassette tape to see what bands looked like. I(we) had no clue.

Keep it up!

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Although they hadn't yet really played together as a group in the studio, in August 1981 THE TIME performed their first live appearance at a showcase for a small group of executives from Warner Bros. Records at the S.I.R. Studio in Los Angeles, with Prince overseeing the proceedings by the soundboard. During rehearsals for the upcoming "Controversy"-Tour with Prince, THE TIME incorporated Jerome Benton into their acts to be Morris Day's on-stage valet. The band warmed-up in autumn 1981 by playing a small number of low-key gigs around the Minneapolis aera.

THE TIME made their public live debut on 7th October 1981 at Sam's, a music club in Downtown, Minneapolis, with Prince digging the show back by the soundboard again. A few weeks later they embarked as the main supporting act on Prince's 1981/1982 "Controversy"-Tour.

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Reply #26 posted 03/09/15 7:24am

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1982 Cntroversy "Tour
March 2 Tower Theater , New Orleans
March 3 Orpheum Theater , Philadelphia
March 5 Metro Center , Rockford
March 7 Met Center , Bloomington (SB)
March 11 Coliseum , Hampton
March 12 Raleigh, NC
March 14 Riverfront Coliseum , Cincinnati

p 48 chapter 4 Pawns Possessed: the Rise & Fall of Prince

The hostilities burst to the surface during the last show of the tour at Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati. During their opening set, the Time found themselves being pelted by eggs from offstage. Gradually, they realized that Prince and some of his band members were the culprits. The barrage increased, and, toward the end of the set, Prince and his accomplices abducted Jerome Benton, a dancer for the group, from the stage and poured honey all over him. They they pelted hims with garbage. "They tarred and feathered him, basically," recalled Fink, who did not participate and insisted to the Time members that he wanted no part of the battle.

Then, as the Time's set ended, Chick Huntsberry grabbed Jesse Johnson and hauled him to Prince's dressing room. There, Huntsberry handcuffed Johnson to a horizontal coat rack bolted into a brick wall. Prince came in and began taunting Johnson and tossing Doritos chips and other pieces of food at him. "This is what you get for talking about my mama!" Prince shouted.

The various members of Prince's band and crew in the room looked on with horror as the episode continued. "It was a cruel thing to do," observed Bennett. Fink recalled, "I just sat there and said to myself, this is getting out of hand."
Humiliated and frightened, Johnson writhed in his cuffs. Finally, to the amazement of the onlookers, he managed to rip the entire twelve-foot-long coat rack out of the wall. His hands were still cuffed to the rack, which he began swinging wildly. "Jesse was uncontrollable," Fink said. "He just lost it. Chick had to contain the situation before someone got hurt."

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Morris Day & Jimmy Jam

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Date: February 14th, 1982
Venue: Civic Auditorium • 99 Grove Street, San Francisco, CA 94102, USA
Show: Supporting-Act at [Prince]'s "Controversy"-Tour

1. Concert intro + The Stick
2. After hi school
2. Oh baby
4. Get it up
5. Cool

• [Morris Day] lead vocals
• [Jerome Benton] stage valet & percussion
• [Jesse Johnson] guitar
• [Terry Lewis] bass
• [Jellybean Johnson] drums
• [Monte Moir] keyboards
• [Jimmy Jam] keyboards

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Reply #29 posted 03/09/15 12:33pm

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Gosh I love entire 1982-83 pimp-in-pink/purple era where Prince was his funkiest. The imagery, music, side projects, etc..

I guess you know me well, I dont like winter, but I seem to get a kick outta doing you cold
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BBP: So what’s this I hear about him getting handcuffed to a—what was it—a coat rack?
Jellybean Johnson: That’s back in our early days of The Time and shit. We got into a food fight with Prince’s band…that was our first year out. That was us, them and Zapp. And the last couple of nights of the tour we got into it with him and his band, Prince and his band, and they started doing shit to us while we were on stage. And one night they just took Jesse off stage—and Jerome—and took Jesse back in their dressing room while we were in concert. Prince had his bodyguard take Jesse off the stage, take him back in the dressing room, handcuff him to the thing. He (Prince) played guitar, Prince jumped in The Time and played guitar while this is going down. Back then his band put food and shit all over Jesse and Jerome.
BBP: Wow…
Jellybean Johnson: This is the kind of childish shit that Prince did. So, after we got done, we went back and rescued Jesse, and we went and got us some shit, put us some dirty clothes on and found every egg, and everything we could and waited for them after the concert. And we beat their asses! Of course it cost Morris a bunch of money because Prince charged Morris a bunch of money for wrecking the arena.
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the Time receiving an award 1981/82

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Girl (5:36)
recorded april 1981 by [Prince] at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 28th-30th april 1981 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1981 on the Album
[The Time]

Recording Personnel
  • Morris Day - vocals and drums
  • Prince - all instruments, except where noted (uncredited)

-PrinceVault

Girl, I called you up to say
That I'm havin' trouble sleepin' ever since you went away
Girl, I know you need a little time
To get your head together, baby, I can't stop cryin', yeah

Girl, why'd you go away?
What can I say to make you stay?
Girl, I was a fool, don't know what to do
Still in love with you, still in love with you, oh baby

Girl, I guess I was a fool to try to tie you down
And make you play by rules
Girl, I guess I finally realized
Keepin' you close to me it would keep me alive

Girl, why'd you go away?
What can I say to make you stay?
Now now, girl, I was a fool, don't know what to do
Still in love with you, don't know what I'm gonna do, no, no, no

What can I say, baby, to make you stay?
I don't know what to do, no I don't
I'm still in love, still in love, still in love

Down on my knees, baby, please
[Incomprehensible]
Oh baby please

Still in love with you
Still in love with you
Called you up to say, baby, I still love you
Still in love, love, love, love
Yeah, I'm in love

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Possessed: the Rise & Fall of Prince

Chapter 4: PAWNS

page 44

When Prince offered to build a band around Morris Day in exchange for the song "Partyup" in the summer of 1980, it was the latest shift in a long and complex relationship. For years, Day had shadowed Prince along the road to stardom. When they were teenagers, Day joined Prince's first band, Champagne, on drums, replacing Charles Smith. They developed a strong friendship, and Day's mother, LaVonne Daugherty, helped manage the group. Prince, Day and bassist Andre Cymone(then using his last name Anderson) functioned as a team, sharing leadership responsibilities as they competed with other Minneapolis groups.

...

In the summer of 1980, during the recording of Dirty Mind, Day found his way back, albeit in a less glamorous capacity; he became a "runner" for Prince's band, picking up sandwiches and drinks during rehearsals. But Prince continued to respect Day's musicianship, as his interest in "Partyup" showed. When the deal for the song was struck, events finally seemed to have shifter back in Day's favor.

.

Let's Work

The song was completed at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA, between 14 and 23 August, 1981. Prince and Morris Day worked on the Dance Remix of the track on 8 December, 1981, two months after the track's initial release, also at Sunset Sound.

It was revealed in November 2003 on the NPG Music Club website that Morris Day plays drums on the extended portion of the Dance Remix, and that Prince and Morris Day switched drumming duties live as the tape was running. The Dance Remix contains sampled clips from Private Joy, Annie Christian and Controversy, the first time a Prince song sampled another of his songs (something he has done often ever since).

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Reply #34 posted 03/11/15 9:42pm

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was just listening to Saturday Love by Alexander O'Neal and Cherelle and this thread came to mind. I can't SEE him as the Time's lead singer. Strong voice, but the songs weren't suited for him. Will we ever know who Morris Day REALLY was/is. P created a persona that he can never separate himself from it seems

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the Ritz NYC Oct 25.1982

1. Intro

2. Get It Up

3. Cool

4. Girl

5. Wild & Loose

6. Gigolos Get Lonely Too

7. 777.9311

8. the Walk

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datdude said:

was just listening to Saturday Love by Alexander O'Neal and Cherelle and this thread came to mind. I can't SEE him as the Time's lead singer. Strong voice, but the songs weren't suited for him. Will we ever know who Morris Day REALLY was/is. P created a persona that he can never separate himself from it seems

I agree.
And I think 'allegedly' that Prince was into that 'Twin' thing

So during that first round of 1981-1984 proteges looking like him, probably mattered

I know what you mean, it was so early on in his life, those years where you start fermenting your identity

I wonder what social issues and religious beliefs Morris hold

He has/had a family and children, too

I would love to see he start drumming more (while leading vocals)

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Wild and loose (7:34)
recorded 14th-20th January 1982 by [Prince] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments and vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) & Vanity 6 (background vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound
written by [Prince] with Dez Dickerson (both uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with Desmond D'Andrea Dickerson
finally released 1982 on the Album
[What Time Is It?]

Morris Day

Initial tracking took place on 19 January, 1982 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (three days after You're All I Want, and the day before Turn It Up). As with much of the What Time Is It album, the recording features only Prince and Morris Day.

Recording Personnel
  • Morris Day - vocals and drums
  • Prince - background vocals and all other instruments (uncredited)
  • PrinceVault

What time is it?

Hangin' by the backstage door, decked out like a queen
Your body's sayin' 21, but your face says 17
My intuition tells me, that you're waitin' for the band
Before you get your hopes up, one thing understand

Wild and loose, that's how it's got to be
'Cuz that's the only kind of dame that appeals to me
Wild and loose, the only life I know
Just havin' one big party from show to show

Talkin' trash to Jimmy Jam, tell us where the party's at
We don't care who you came with, we'll take care of that
Just meet us at the motel, room 602
Tell your mama you won't be home, 'cuz we got plans for you

Wild and loose, that's how it's got to be
'Cuz that's the only kind of dame that appeals to me
Wild and loose, the only life I know
Just havin' one big party from show to show

Universal freak delight, where'd you get those thighs?
Where did you get the nerve to wear that miniskirt so high?
Don't worry, baby, I can keep a secret for as long as snow is white
Hey Jesse? Yeah, come here man, guess what I did last night?

Wild and loose, that's how it's got to be
'Cuz that's the only kind of dame that appeals to me
Wild and loose, the only life I know
Just havin' one big party from show to show

Baby, you ain't no saint, 'cuz there ain't no in-between
Either you come or you can't, now get loose, let me hear you scream
Baby, you ain't no saint, 'cuz there ain't no in-between
Either you come or you can't, now get loose, let me hear you scream

Wild and loose, that's how it's got to be
'Cuz that's the only kind of dame that appeals to me
Wild and loose, the only life I know
Just havin' one big party from show to show

Wild and loose, ah pardon me, say it one more time
Wild and loose, I can't hit it baby, maybe I'm blind
Wild and loose, everybody know you got to be
Wild and loose, 'cuz ain't nobody cool but me, slap me

Wild and loose, somebody, somebody sing it
Wild and loose, tell your mama you won't be home
Wild and loose, everybody know you got to be
Wild and loose, ain't nobody cool but me, now break it down

{"Kim, wasn't the concert great?"
"Oh yeah, it sure was"
"Did you see Jesse up there, wasn't he fine?"
"Oh yeah"
"Morris looked so good"
"Yeah, but I think Jesse is cuter"
"Oh yeah"
"I wonder what they are doin' after the concert"
"Oh yeah, I got a strange feelin' they're nasty"
"Yeah, I bet I'll remember this concert for the rest of my life"
"So will I"}

{"Did you see Jesse's eyes, aren't they pretty?"
"Oh, they're so pretty"
"No one at school will ever believe I talked to Morris"
"On the phone last night"
"Oh, I believe you"
"His voice was so soft, he sounded so sweet"
"Oh yeah, he's so cool"
"Yeah, but now I want to meet him in person"}

{"What's happening? You girls don't want to go party tonight"
"Jerk"
"Get out, get away, eh yuck"
"Kim, you ain't gonna believe it"
"The guys from the time are right behind you"
"Are you serious?"
"No, I'm not look, I, I mean yes I am! Over there"}

{"Oh my God"
"Can you believe it? Look"
"Should I look?"
"Should I go over and see if he remembers me?"
"Oh yeah"
"But what should I say?"
"Say somethin'"}

{"Hi, hi Morris"
"Excuse me, hello, do I know you?"
"Yeah, you talked to me on the phone last night"
"Is that right? Well, you sure don't look like you sound"
"Well, excuse me"
"It's okay baby, I got things to do, I'll talk to you later"
"Jerk! That was the worst concert I've ever been to"}

Wild and loose
Wild and loose
Wild and loose
Wild and loose

Wild and loose, that's how it's got to be
'Cuz that's the only kind of dame that appeals to me
Wild and loose, the only life I know
Just havin' one big party from show to show

Wild and loose, I can't hear you singin'
Wild and loose, help me out, help me out, hey
Wild and loose, baby, I got plans for you
Wild and loose, everybody get loose

Fellas? Yeah? Where the party at?
Right here under your shoes
Fellas? Yeah? What time is it?
Time to get wild and loose

Show time fellas? Yeah? Where the party at?
Right here under your shoes
Fellas? Yeah? What time is it?
Time to get wild and loose

Fellas? Yeah? Where the party at?
Right here under your shoes
Fellas? Yeah? What time is it?
Time to get wild and loose

Fellas? Yeah? Where the party at?
Right here under your shoes
Show time fellas? Yeah? What?
Time to get wild and loose

Fellas? Yeah? Where the party at?
Right here under your shoes
That's right fellas? Yeah? What time is it?
Time to get wild and loose, tonight

Fellas? Yeah? Where the party at?
Right here under your shoes
Fellas? Yeah? What time is it?
Time to get wild and loose
Somebody bring me a mirror

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Reply #38 posted 03/16/15 6:22pm

funksterr

Haha! Love this:-) it's time for a family reunion!

Reply #39 posted 03/16/15 10:41pm

ThomasBjj

funksterr said:

Haha! Love this:-) it's time for a family reunion!

The Time are playing a show in Downey california sometime within the next couple weeks. (oddly under the name "The Time", doesn't Prince own the name?).

Morris Day on the cover of the Downey community guide looking alot like Prince.

Reply #40 posted 03/17/15 6:25am

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ThomasBjj said:

funksterr said:

Haha! Love this:-) it's time for a family reunion!

The Time are playing a show in Downey california sometime within the next couple weeks. (oddly under the name "The Time", doesn't Prince own the name?).

Morris Day on the cover of the Downey community guide looking alot like Prince.

I don't think he's ever stopped them from performing as the Time, just not record

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Reply #41 posted 03/17/15 12:08pm

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Reply #42 posted 03/17/15 2:38pm

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ThomasBjj said:

funksterr said:

Haha! Love this:-) it's time for a family reunion!

The Time are playing a show in Downey california sometime within the next couple weeks. (oddly under the name "The Time", doesn't Prince own the name?).

Morris Day on the cover of the Downey community guide looking alot like Prince.

That's not all the originals, but I'll say this: Morris's Day and The Time put on a hot show. Tori has stepped his game up. He's still not as fluid as Jessie but his guitar is on point often enough where I don't miss Jessie when I watch the show. Same with JD. No he's not Jimmy Jam, but he is good. The whole band has stepped up since O7 flamed out. I noticed Jimmy Jam tweeted a congratulations to Jessie Johnson though after the SNL appearance. It's not much but at least he's reaching out. I'd like to see them do something with Mark Ronson.

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Reply #44 posted 03/18/15 9:05am

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Vanity 6(l-r Brenda Bennet, Susan Moonsie, Denise Matthews) w/Morris Day

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Reply #45 posted 03/18/15 9:17am

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Prince's Hot Rock
The secret life of America's sexiest one-man band

By DEBBIE MILLER
What Time Is It?

Joni Mitchell songs blare out of the PA between the sets of Prince's road show, at his request. Vanity 6, three women in lacy camisoles, open the concert. "I love lingerie," explains Vanity, the leader of the group. "I used to sneak into my mother's closet and try to wear her lingerie to school." She picked her nickname because "a girl's best friend is her pride," she says. Like her cohorts, Brenda and Susan, Vanity gave a demo tape of her songs to Prince a year ago. "He said there were a couple other girls whose minds seemed to run alongside mine," she says. Prince then arranged to bring Vanity, a twenty-two-year-old former model from Toronto, to Minneapolis to meet the other two, flying Brenda in from Boston. Soon, the three were writing songs like "Drive Me Wild" and "Nasty Girls" in which Vanity coos, "I can't control it/I need seven inches or more."

It all seems a figment of Prince's imagination, a living fantasy. "Prince and I happen to think alike," says Vanity.

On their record, Vanity 6 is backed by the Time; onstage, they're followed by the Time (who, in turn, are followed by Prince). At one point in the Time's set, frontman Morris Day, a terrific dancer, calls out his valet. The valet -- who often follows Morris' own dance steps like a shadow -- brings out a table, sets it with a white cloth and a vase of flowers, and uncorks a bottle of champagne. Morris, meanwhile, in his trademark two-tone Stacy Adams shoes, waltzes with a girl chosen from the audience. This sort of classy deportment was the starting point for the Time, as organized by Morris. "The image was cool. That's the key word," he says. "That's what we built the Time around. Cool is an attitude, a self-respect thing."

Morris didn't exactly put the group together -- all but guitarist Jesse Johnson had been playing around Minneapolis in a band called Flyte Tyme (known familiarly as the Tyme even then). But it is Morris who has led the band to the point where it now often steals the show from the scantily clad Vanity 6 and even from Prince. Morris, the former drummer, has stayed closer to traditional R&B but, by injecting his good humor, has developed one of the best live acts in the country.

Prince, says Morris, helped the band get its Warner Bros. contract in 1981. Asked why the Time shares the same teenage-sex themes as Prince, Morris says, "Sex is present in everybody's life. I don't think anybody owns the rights to that." Asked if Prince influenced their sound, Morris says what Vanity says: "We believe in the same things." Asked about Jamie Starr, an icy tension descends. Although Morris Day and one Jamie Starr are credited as producers on the Time's first record, there is reason to believe that the record was, in fact, produced by Prince. One source very close to the situation says that not only is all the material written by Prince (mysteriously, there are no writing credits on the LP), but that the instruments are played by Prince and the voice is Prince's doubled with Morris Day's. This insider claims that the record -- a more commercial, more straightforward R&B album -- is a project Prince offered Warner Bros. because his own bolder stuff wasn't selling impressively. So, goes this theory, Prince set the Time in motion -- and created a pseudonym, Jamie Starr, for his new project.

Prince did tell a reporter in an early interview with the Minnesota Daily, when he was just seventeen, that someday he would make jazz recordings under an alias. (In that same interview, Prince claimed not to be averse to choreography, but he drew the line at spins -- "I get nauseated.") So the idea of working with a fictitious name had occurred to him at the beginning of his career.

And although Morris says that he and the band wrote the songs on their first LP, The Time, a call to the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP), with whom the songs are registered, casts some doubt. The composer of the hits "Get It Up" and "Cool" is Prince Rogers Nelson (with Dez Dickerson on "Cool"), says an ASCAP spokesman. Prince's manager says that the fact that Prince's name is registered for the Time's record is "a filing mistake."

"Let me clear up a few rumors while I have the chance," Prince told the Los Angeles Times. "One, my real name is Prince. Two, I'm not gay. And three, I'm not Jamie Starr."

"Jamie Starr is an engineer, the coproducer of our record. Of course he's real," says Morris Day, whose band now outplays whoever it was on the first Time record.

But if there is a Jamie Starr, why can't he be reached? Manager Steve Fargnoli says it's because he's "in and out of Minneapolis," because he's "a reclusive maniac" like Prince) and because "it could be months before I see him." Can he be reached by phone? "No." Well, you wouldn't need to call him over to Prince's home studio if he's already there. "Prince is Jamie Starr" says former Warner Bros. artist and fellow Minneapolitan Sue Ann (Carwell), who has been a friend of Prince's for years -- ever since he wrote and produced her first demo tape. Others who are close to Prince also say that he is Jamie Starr, but they refuse to be quoted in print. But, says one, "everybody knows who's the main man behind everything."

April 28, 1983 (RS 394)

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Reply #46 posted 03/18/15 9:19am

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Producer, Arranged By - Morris Day , The Starr ★ Company


Time, The - 777-9311
Label:Warner Bros. Records
Catalog#:PRO-A-1066
Format:Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Promo

Country:US
Released:1982

Baby, what's your phone number?
I know I'm kinda fast, but I hate 2 waste time
Baby, what's your phone number?
Girl, I have 2 ask cuz U're so fine
CHORUS:
777-9311
I wanna spend the night with U if that's alright
777-9311
Ooh baby, please can I come 2 night?

Baby, what's your phone number?
How can U be reached on a lonely night?
Baby, what's your phone number?
How can I get into U when I'm feeling right?

CHORUS

Jellybean

Ain't nothin' worse than rejection
I'd feel a little better if U slapped my face

Hey, what's your phone number?
Can't U see the agony I'm goin' through?
Baby, what's your phone number?
Girl, it's getting hard baby, won't U let me love U, love U?

CHORUS

Yeah, ooh

Hey baby,what's your phone number?
I know it sounds fast, but I ain't got all night
Come on baby, what's your phone number?
U know I got 2 be cooler than this cat U're sittin' with
I'll do U right, baby
Come on! {x3}
Oh no, come on!
Oh, hey

CHORUS

Come 2 night if it's alright (777-9311)
Honey, please can I come 2 night?
Can't U see what I'm gonna do? (777-9311)
I wanna do it 2 night, baby, I wanna do it 2 U
It's on fire, U burn me out (777-9311)
It's getting higher, U know what I'm talkin' about
Help me out good Lord above (777-9311)
Marry me girl, give me some of that love
Terry...

777-9311 {x13}

© 1982 Tionna Music - ASCAP

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Reply #47 posted 03/18/15 9:36am

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777-9311 (8:04)
recorded May/June 1982 by [Prince] at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments and vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1982 on the Album
[What Time Is It?] • 1982 on the promo 12"-Single [777-9311] • 1982 on the 12"-Single [777-9311] • 1995 on the sampler [Planet Funk] • 1997 on the sampler [Phat Trax]

777-9311 (edit) (3:28)
finally released 1982 on the 7"-Single [777-9311] • 1982 on the 7"-Single [The walk]

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Reply #48 posted 03/18/15 9:37am

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Grace (non-album track) (2:37)
recorded May/June 1982 by [Prince] at at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments) with [Morris Day] (lead vocals) and Vanity (co-lead vocals)
written by
[Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1982 on the 7"-Single
[777-9311] • 1982 on the promo 12"-Single [777-9311]

While reflecting on the track's history on Facebook in 2014, Jesse Johnson wrote "777-9311 Was A Stock Drum Beat In Prince's Linn LM-1 ($5,500 drum machine you know it wasn't The Time's) ... The beat was programed into the Linn LM1 by [ Tower of Power drummer] David Garibaldi ... for Roger Linn." (David Garibaldi's drumming would also be sampled, uncredited, years later on The Time's Release It.) He also added "Prince used my $179.00 Hondo Strat to play the chords on 777 (that's why the guitar sounds so nice and dull...cause it was cheap!)"

The title of the track was Dez Dickerson's home phone number at the time, and he was allegedly upset that it was used in the song; when the album was released he received several unwanted calls and changed the number as a result.

-PrinceVault

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Reply #49 posted 03/18/15 9:47am

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3. What Time Is It?

In late December 1981, during a break at his "Controversy"-Tour, [Prince] starts the recording sessions for THE TIME's second album. He recorded Gigolos get lonely too and Jerk out at his home studio again. The last mentioned song didn't make it on this album, but a reworked version surfaced on THE TIME's 1990 reunion-album [Pandemonium]. From 14th to 20th January 1982 the sessions continued at Hollywood Sunset Sound, where he recorded The walk, Wild and loose and a previously unreleased track called Colleen. Another previously unreleased leftover from this sessions was a song called Bold generation, recorded 11th January 1982 either at [Prince]'s home studio or Hollywood Sunset Sound.

On 8th March 1982, [Prince] plays a one-off gig in front of 700 people at First Avenue in Minneapolis. The loose 80-minute set was taped using a mobile recording unit. After a break THE TIME joined on stage to perform a previously unreleased song called Dance to the beat for the first time. [Prince] introduced this track with: "Y'all can play, but you gotta play some rock'n'roll. Don't come up here and play none of that old you-know-what!". The set continues with The stick with [Prince] teasing [Morris Day] by asking "Can you still play the drums?". Indeed [Morris] could and he played a monster drum solo at a raunchy performance of the set's finale "Partyup".

The final show of [Prince]'s "Controversy"-Tour was played on 14th March 1982 at the Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati. The show turned into a funny full-scale food fight between THE TIME and [Prince]'s own band. During THE TIME's opening set, [Prince] and several members of his own band starts tossing eggs across the stage. [Prince] even sent his 6-foot-6 bodyguard, Big Chick Huntsberry, onstage wearing a woman's wig during a song in which frontman [Morris Day] flirts with a woman from the audience. While they were still playing, they rushed on the stage, grabbed [Jerome Benton] and took him to the dressing room, where they poured shaving cream all over him. After this, they took [Jesse Johnson], handcuffing him to the wall in the dressing room, while [Prince] jumped on stage and took [Jesse]'s place playing guitar for THE TIME. Once the show was over, THE TIME members went chasing after [Prince] and his band was armed with eggs and miscellaneous food too. "After the show, he fined us," [Jimmy Jam] later recalled, "and made THE TIME pay the overtime bill for the union crew to clean up the eggy mess."


"What Time Is It?" (1982)

After the 2nd leg of the "Controversy"-Tour and various sessions for his own new album "1999" as well as another project, the girl group Vanity 6, [Prince] continues the work for THE TIME. During May/June 1982 he recorded Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody, I don't wanna leave you, 777-9311 and Grace once again at his home studio. The last song ends finally up as the b-side of 777-9311. The sessions finished with final mixing at Hollywood Sunset Sound on 20th and 21st July 1982.

[What Time Is It?] was released by Warner Bros. Records on 25th August 1982. This time The Starr*Company is listed as producer of the album. [Prince] isn't credited on the sleeve, but in truth he wrote or co-wrote all songs as Jamie Starr again, except Wild and loose, with lyrics registered to Dez Dickerson. Vanity 6 provides some background vocals on Wild and loose and The walk. [Morris Day] adds lead vocals to all tracks again, but [Prince]'s own voice is often audible in the final mix of the songs.

THE TIME members wanted to contribute more to the music and they were becoming increasingly frustrated by [Prince]'s firm control on the band. [Jimmy Jam], [Terry Lewis] and [Monte Moir] had started writing music for their own and went beginning to contemplate independent careers. Following the "Controversy"-Tour [Jimmy Jam] and [Terry Lewis] went to Los Angeles to collaborate on their own material, which they felt didn't quite fit to the image and sound of THE TIME, as they considered the band to be more of a vehicle for [Morris Day]. [Prince] was opposed to their outside production work, which he felt detracted from their commitment to THE TIME.

What Time Is It?] shows a distinct improvement over THE TIME on almost every level. The production and arrangements are consistent with the debut album, but the melodic content is much stronger. At the same time, the record is much more funkier than its predecessor. It contains three mid-tempo funk songs, 777-9311, Wild and loose and The walk. The ballad Gigolos get lonely too is funky too, but has a looser, more relaxed feel. One of the highlight is I don't wanna leave you, an excellent pop/funk hybrid, drawing on the best of both idioms by combining an appealing melody and chorus with a funky beat. It's a real pity that this jewel never was performed live by THE TIME. Less impressive is Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody, a quick little rockabilly-flavored pop song of little merit.

Also the lyrics of [What Time Is It?] continues the theme of the first album. I don't wanna leave you concerns a do-wrong woman who has a reputation for running around. 777-9311 finds [Morris Day] trying to talk a woman into giving him her phone number. The title was actually Dez Dickerson's real telephone number, which created a lot of problem for him as soon as the album came out. Wild and loose is a straight forward party song about living life to the fullest and having a good time, while The walk stresses the importance of having a positive outlook on life and being honest to oneself. Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody is very much about [Morris Day]'s own life and the song is his declaration to be a star some day. The most atypical song on this album is Gigolos get lonely too, in which [Morris Day] sings the part of a Gigolo confessing to a woman, that even a professional seducer, such as himself, gets lonely once in awhile.

Morris DayA non-album track, Grace, appeared as b-side of "777-9311". Employing the musical backing from 777-9311, the song consists an interview by a fictitious female journalist named Brigitte Harrington (performed by Vanity) with [Morris Day] and is sporting his self-assured and cocky attitude throughout. The song-title comes from his insistence on calling the interviewer "Grace" instead of her proper name "Brigitte".

[What Time Is It?] became an even bigger success than the last album, with going gold (about 750,000 sold units) again and hitting position #2 on the Billboard R&B-Charts and #26 at the Pop-Charts. The album yielded three singles. 777-9311 becomes THE TIME's biggest hit so far, reaching #2 at the R&B-Charts and #88 at the Pop-Charts. The walk made it to #24 and Gigolos get lonely too hits #77 at the R&B-Charts only.

On 11th November 1982, THE TIME left to tour with [Prince] again as support on his "1999"-Tour at Memorial Auditorium in Chattanooga. Named the so-called "Triple Threat Tour", it also features Vanity 6 as the 2nd supporting act. Vanity 6's usually brief 20-minute set was accompanied by THE TIME always playing the music part unseen behind a pink stage curtain with Jill Jones providing additional backing vocals. However, it was obvious that the performance of Vanity 6 was very silly and didn't have enough stage presence to make it a successful live-act. By contrast, THE TIME came alive when they hit the stage for their own usually 40-minutes set. The tight dance grooves, high-spirited stage moves and routines made them an exciting live band. They often got a very positive reviews and the reception from the audience was phenomenal, which created a professional rivalry between THE TIME and [Prince]'s own band.

On 21st November 1982, [Prince] used an interview, published by the Los Angeles Times, to scotch some rumors: "One: My real name is Prince. It's not something I made up. Two: I'm not gay. Three: I'm not Jamie Starr.".

On 16th December 1982, during a soundcheck for the "1999"-Tour show at Municipal Auditorium in Nashville, the disagreement between [Prince] and THE TIME came to a boil. [Prince] felt they were upstaging him and wanted to change a few things in their performance, which caused loud protests. There had been an underlying tension between [Prince] and THE TIME on the entire tour.

The "1999"-Tour continued after a one-month break in January of 1983. On this 1983 part of the tour, THE TIME were sometimes demoted from the bill. No official reasons were given for their occasional exclusion, but it's quite likely that [Prince] didn't want to risk being upstaged in some of the major cities. For example, at the shows in Los Angeles and New York in March 1983, as well as at the Detroit Show in April 1983, the bill was just [Prince] with Vanity 6.

On 15th March 1983, [Prince] returns in triumph to Minneapolis for a concert at 13,500-seat Met Center in Bloomington. A post-show bash was held at the Registry Hotel in Bloomington. At 2:00 am, some members of [Prince]'s band, Vanity 6 and THE TIME played a short jam session with [Prince] on the drums and Sue Ann Carwell singing.

Working Pass of the "1999"-TourOn 24th March 1983, THE TIME members [Jimmy Jam] and [Terry Lewis] failed to make it to the concert at the Hemisfair Arena in San Antonio. The duo had been working on sessions with the S.O.S. Band in Atlanta, but they were snowed in at the airport and couldn't make it back on time to San Antonio. To cover up for their absence, [Jerome Benton] strapped on the bass guitar and pretended to play it, while [Prince] stood in the shadow of the stage and played the bass line instead. Lisa Coleman replaced [Jimmy Jam] on the keyboards. No explanation was demanded and the "1999"-Tour continued. Both were fined with $3,000 each, which was a considerable amount of money considering how small their salaries were at this time.

[Jimmy Jam] and [Terry Lewis] fulfilled their "1999"-Tour commitments, but things between them and [Prince] were never the same. In a later interview [Jimmy Jam] doesn't attribute it only to their non-attendance: "Prince didn't really want to break the band up, but the snowstorm provided the excuse he needed to fire us two. He thought we were off seeing some girls. Then he saw our picture in Billboard Magazine or something with the S.O.S. Band and all that changed. Seems like it was OK to be off meeting girls, but not OK to be furthering our own independent careers".

Without a doubt, THE TIME's unpretentious and humorous performance contrasted with [Prince]'s more ambitious and elaborate theatrics. [Morris Day] later reported, that THE TIME were becoming a threat to [Prince], adding that THE TIME's success caught many by surprise: "I think the whole thing was never expected to be anything more than an opening act. There used to be some arguments before going onstage about things that I would do that were conflicting with the things that [Prince] would do. I was ever told not to do certain things and certain dances.".

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Reply #50 posted 03/18/15 12:47pm

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Reply #51 posted 03/20/15 11:28am

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.... Hi. I'm Bridgette Harrington and I'm here to interview Morris Day, lead singer of THE TIME.
.... Mr. Day, How are you?

Need you ask?

.... I'll take it that you're fine.

Yes, I've been told that.

.... Oh, OK. Tell me. Are you really so cool?

Is money green?

.... When did you first notice your coolness?

I didn't. The doctor did.
You see, most people were born in birthday suits. I was born in a zute suit.

.... You got to be joking.

Baby, I ain't got time for jokes. What time is it anyway?

.... It's time for us to continue this interview.
.... How does THE TIME go about generating such a funky sound?

Pardon me. I know you didn't say "funk.".

.... Well?

Let me just say one thing. Funk is dead.
Funk is something you can learn in school and ain't nothing funky about being cool, ... Grace.

.... OK, but my name is Bridgette.

Oh I'm sorry, ... Grace.

.... It seems your image has a lot to do with your approch to music.
.... Your clothes for example.

My clothes, fuck. Hold it.
Let me, let let me just say something to all the fellas out there.
Take off them blue jeans and them "New Wave" clothes and go get you some "Baggies."
It's about the freedom, right?
In other words, stay at the hotel with the biggest ballroom.
Don't get me wrong. Some of my best friends wear blue jeans.
I'm just not ever seen them in it.
What time is it?

.... Why are you concerned with the time?

'Cause I got somewhere to go.

.... Where's that?

To the Cork, Johnny.

.... I told you my name is Bridgette.

Sorry, Nella.

.... I don't think I like you at all.
.... Is there anything else you would like to say before we close this interview?

Yes!!!!
What's your phone number?

.... Uuh! - 7..., 7..., 7..., 9..., 3..., 1..., 1.

Ain't nobody bad like me?

777-9311
777-9311

Grace was released as the b-side of 777-9311, the first single from The Time's second album What Time Is It?. The song uses the musical backing of 777-9311 as its basis, with a staged interview between Morris Day and a fictitious journalist known as Bridgette Harrington (played by Vanity) overlaid, and was written and produced by Prince, although the song is officially credited to Morris Day.

Morris Day insists on calling the interviewer "Grace" throughout, giving the track's title.

While specific recording dates are not known, initial tracking of 777-9311 took place in May-June, 1982 at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio, Chanhassen, MN, USA (during the same set of sessions that produced Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody, I Don't Wanna Leave You, and several other tracks that were released over the next several years).

It is likely that the interview portion was recorded soon after, also at Prince's Kiowa Trail Home Studio, although this is unconfirmed.

-PrinceVault

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Reply #52 posted 03/20/15 11:49am

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Reply #53 posted 03/20/15 12:00pm

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Why do Morris' shoes lean over? I've always hated that! lol
What?
Reply #54 posted 03/20/15 12:06pm

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December 1982 @ the American Bandstand ABC

1.) the Walk
2.) 777-9311

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Reply #55 posted 03/20/15 12:09pm

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iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Why do Morris' shoes lean over? I've always hated that! lol

lmao Lean over? like he is resting on the outter part of his feet? lol
I noticed his shoes/feet in standing pictures looking like the fronts were lifted

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Reply #56 posted 03/20/15 12:29pm

iZsaZsa

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iZsaZsa said:


OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 



 


 



Why do Morris' shoes lean over? I've always hated that! lol

 


lmao Lean over? like he is resting on the outter part of his feet? lol
I noticed his shoes/feet in standing pictures looking like the fronts were lifted


 


 


lol lol
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Reply #57 posted 03/23/15 9:19am

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OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody (2:27)
recorded May/June 1982 by [Prince] at at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments and vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1982 on the Album
[What Time Is It?] • 1982 on the 7"-Single [The walk]

Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody (2:27)

One day I'm gonna be somebody, one day I'm gonna be rich.
I'm gonna say my prayers and work real hard, so that I never have to dig a ditch.
The only way I'd work at a carwash, is if I owned the whole damn place.
But if gettin' to the top means washin' a car, I'd be scrubbin' with a smile on my face.

(chorus)
One day I'm gonna be somebody, gonna stand out in a crowd.
One day I'm gonna be somebody, gonna make somebody proud.

One day I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna do whatever it takes.
Why should I starve when I could be elsewhere, makin' what the rich man makes.
If I should die before I'm rich, I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
But if I'm rich before I die, I wanna work cuz nothin' comes cheap.

(repeat chorus)

Somebody bring me a mirror so I can look at my cash.

We don't like new wave!

© 1982 Tionna Music ASCAP.Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr).Taken from the album [What Time is It?]
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Reply #58 posted 03/23/15 3:37pm

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iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lmao Lean over? like he is resting on the outter part of his feet? lol
I noticed his shoes/feet in standing pictures looking like the fronts were lifted

lol lol

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Reply #59 posted 03/23/15 10:46pm

SoulAlive

I miss The Time! sad Such an exciting band!!

Reply #60 posted 03/24/15 6:07am

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SoulAlive said:

I miss The Time! sad Such an exciting band!!

Me too, the real Time

I think the excitement level would have turned way up

if he let the Time open for him around the Welcome 2 Australian tour

and if he did a few songs with the Family on their album etc

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Reply #61 posted 03/24/15 9:20am

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What TIME song do you hear If U Feel Like Dancing (94East) ?

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Reply #62 posted 03/27/15 8:04am

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Reply #63 posted 03/27/15 8:19am

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Initial tracking took place on 14 January, 1982 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (three days after Bold Generation and Gigolos Get Lonely Too, the same day as International Lover, and the day before Colleen).

As with most of the rest of the album, the track features only Morris Day and Prince. The song's spoken section introduces the idea of Morris Day referring to a woman as "Grace" regardless of her real name; an idea also used on Grace.

Recording Personnel
  • Morris Day - vocals and drums
  • Prince - background vocals and all instruments, except where noted (uncredited)
  • Vanity - spoken vocals (credited as Vanity 6)

Image:Thewalk single.jpg

The walk (9:31) [lyrics]
recorded 14th-20th January 1982 by [Prince] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) & Vanity 6 (background vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1982 on the Album
[What Time Is It?] • 1982 on the promo 12"-Single [The walk] • 1982 on the 12"-Single [The walk] • 1982 on the 12"-Single [777-9311]

The walk (edit) (3:24) [lyrics]
finally released 1982 on the 7"-Single [The walk] • 1982 on the 7"-Single [The walk] • 1982 on the promo 12"-Single [The walk] • 1982 on the 12"-Single [The walk]

The walk (9:31)

Attention everybody! I'm gonna show you a brand new dance.
It's called "The walk, the walk", just let your body talk 'til you're deep in a trance.
You don't need no partner, you can walk all alone.
Whenever you feel the groove just let your body move, walkin' to a beat of your own.

(chorus)
Everybody walk your body, everybody walk.
Everybody walk your body, everybody walk.

Attention everybody! I said it ain't hard to do.
Just walk, walk, let your body talk, walkin' so cool.
Attention everybody! I said I just shined my shoes.
So you can let your body talk, just watch where you walk or your life you're gonna lose.
In other words, I'll walk you 'til you're dead.

(repeat chorus)

The days of dancing in one place are gone.
And honey, you know you can't dance with them tight jeans on.
If you try to cop a dip, you trip, slip, and fall.
Walking's for the cool baby, put on a camisole.

(repeat chorus)

Who? Me? I wear baggies, zip, snap, and drop.
Easy access baby. Yes, before you get a chance to holler "Stop!"
Besides, Rollo likes his freedom.
Ain't nothin' like a fresh pair of baggies.
Now I know that's right

(repeat chorus)

Hup 2, 3, 4, what the hell are we fightin' for? Walk.

Damn, I'm 'bout to walk a hole in my Stacy Adams.
What time is it?
Little cute guitar player, make your mama proud.
I want all of Detroit City to stand up, clap your hands!
Alright you Polaroids, stay in time with the drummer.
Jellybean, don't be so mean. Mr. Jelly, turn it around.
Bass man walk downtown. Go on and walk, Terry.
I don't think they heard ya.
What time is it? Rock City.
Well OK, if you put it that way.
Ain't nobody bad. Cheerio.

We don't like policemen.

We don't like new wave.
We don't like television.

(repeat chorus)

What Time Is It? (Front Cover)

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Reply #64 posted 03/27/15 8:24am

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the Walk by the Time
featuring Vanity as Grace

Morris Day as Morris

Prince as the Italian club owner
Producer: The Starr ★ Company

.

Say, hey baby, where you goin'?
.... I'm going home. I can't dance like that.
Well baby, that's because you got those jeans on to tight.
Now let's just take'em off.
.... What do you mean "Let's just take'em off?"
Come on, take'em off. I got something for you to wear. Here, put this on.
.... Uh, you always keep lingerie in your glove department?
None of my women wear gloves. Now put this on.
.... But...
But my ass. Hey, a play on words.
.... But all the girls will stare at me.
All the girls in this neighborhood already wear camisoles.
.... I know, but...
But, but... that's because it's cool. Now let's get them jeans off.
.... Ok, but I'm warning you.
Warning me about what?
Mm, God, this zipper's tight. Here, why don't you lay down?
.... Um, that's what I'm tryin' to tell you.
Stop tryin' to tell me things and pull!
.... But...
Come on, pull!
.... I'm warning you.
Mary, sweet mother Jesus!
.... I told you.
Damn baby, how'd you get all that in them jeans?
.... It wasn't easy.
I know that's right, mmm! Well, I think you'd be more comfortable in this.
.... I'm sure I would. I don't know.
Hurry up Grace, song's almost over.
.... My name's not Grace.
I know that, but hurry up... Grace.
.... Man, these are weird. I guess the tag goes in the back.
Hurry up!
.... OK, OK, how do I look?
Almost as good as me, now let's go!

.... Hey Morris, what time is it? Who's the lovely lady? Introduce us.
I'll introduce you to a headache if you don't get out of my face!

OK baby, now check this out. We gonna walk 'til the song's over.
In other words, meet me at the bar in 32 measures, cool?
.... Cool.
And if you're good, I'll let you work the stick in my ride. Uah ha ha!

Printed without permission.
© 1982 Tionna Music ASCAP.

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Reply #65 posted 03/27/15 8:29am

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Reply #66 posted 03/28/15 3:44pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

What TIME song do you hear If U Feel Like Dancing (94East) ?

Any takers?

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Reply #67 posted 03/28/15 3:52pm

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For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #68 posted 03/28/15 3:53pm

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Morris Day

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #69 posted 03/28/15 4:10pm

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YEAZ

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #70 posted 03/28/15 4:16pm

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http://40.media.tumblr.com/db94509977f1fb3783c90b03087e9665/tumblr_mgeawwbSVr1qlmakwo1_1280.jpg

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #71 posted 03/28/15 4:27pm

MickyDolenz

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #72 posted 03/28/15 6:56pm

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MickyDolenz said:


Who are the folks in this photo and the one before?
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
Reply #73 posted 03/28/15 7:19pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Morris Day

Thanks 4 posting these photos 1 of them I've never seen before, this one I had a lost it and like so many Morris Day/the Time photos from that period, they are hard to come by. I love this one.

I post one earlier in the thread with Morris in the phone booth

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Reply #74 posted 03/29/15 11:13am

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For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #75 posted 03/29/15 11:27am

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Chicago, Illinois - April 11, 1983


For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #76 posted 03/29/15 11:28am

MickyDolenz

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #77 posted 03/29/15 4:15pm

SoulAlive

The Time were truly the best Prince protege act.

Reply #78 posted 03/29/15 5:44pm

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SoulAlive said:

The Time were truly the best Prince protege act.

They were,
I was watching Vanity 6 part of the 1999 tour and listening to the music

How they took that albums music and brought it to life and it sounds like 'Prince' music

He had some of the best people in those days

And Vanity 6 owned those songs

I love that time. I wish Jimmy & Terry weren't fired because the Purple Rain era would have been to a whole other level and that era was already at 98%

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Reply #79 posted 03/30/15 9:35am

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MickyDolenz said:

http://40.media.tumblr.com/db94509977f1fb3783c90b03087e9665/tumblr_mgeawwbSVr1qlmakwo1_1280.jpg

I love this one

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unreleased

Bold generation
recorded 11th January 1982 by [Prince] either at his home studio [1] or Sunset Sound [7] during the [What Time Is It?] Album sessions • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals)
written by
[Prince]

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unreleased

Colleen
recorded 15th January 1982 by [Prince] at Sunset Sound [7] during the [What Time Is It?] Album sessions • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals)
written by
[Prince]

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Jerk out #1 (lead vocals by [Prince])
originally recorded December 1981 by [Prince] at his home-studio [1] during the [What Time Is It?] Album sessions • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals)
written by
[Prince]
previously unreleased

.

The track's lyrics were inspired by an incident on the Controversy Tour, when some of The Time's band members were removed from a flight ("jerked out") for causing a disturbance.

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March 8th, 1982 First Avenue, Minneapolis


1.Bambi
2.All the Critics Love U in NY (preview)
3.When U Were Mine
4.Sexy Dancer
5.Still Waiting
6.Head
7.Sexuality
8.Dance 2 the Beat (the Time)
9.the Stick (the Time)
10.Party Up (Prince and the noituloveR with Morris Day on drums)





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Gigolos get lonely Too (4:42)
recorded December 1981 by [Prince] at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1982 on the Album
[What Time Is It?] • 1982 on the promo 7"-Single [Gigolos get lonely too] • 1982 on the 7"-Single [Gigolos get lonely too]

Gigolos get lonely too (4:42)

I guess you've heard of my reputation, I've had my share of foolin' around.
But everybody needs stimulation, and mine just happens to be all over town.
It's an easy-money occupation, a first-class psychiatry.
But just once, I'd wanna make love without taking off my clothes.
Just once, I wanna make love with somebody who really and truly knows:

(chorus)
Contrary to rumor, gigolos get lonely too.
All my lovers need stimulation, but honey babe, I think that I need you.

Maybe you're the kind of person, that could turn my world around.
Won't you gimme little inspiration? Maybe that's what I need to make me settle down.
It's an easy-money occupation, but honey one thing understand.
I've got more money than you could imagine in your wildest dreams.
But honey, money don't make no happy man.

(repeat chorus)

Just once, I wanna love without takin' off my clothes.
Just once, I wanna love with somebody who knows.
That I got more money than you could ever see.
But honey, money won't get me up off my knees.

Gigolos get lonely too.
All my lovers need stimulation.
But honey babe, I think that I need you.

(repeat chorus)

What cha gonna do, baby?
Oh, what cha, what cha gonna do?

Ah, do you think we could have dinner sometimes, baby?
Well, how about to night?
Baby?

Printed without permission.
© 1982 Tionna Music ASCAP.
Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr).
Taken from the album [What Time is It?]

What Time Is It? (Front Cover)

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I don't wanna leave you (6:29)
recorded May/June 1982 by [Prince] at at his home studio [1] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & vocals) with [Morris Day] (additional lead vocals) • final mixing 20th-21st July 1982 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1982 on the Album
[What Time Is It?] • 1982 on the 7"-Single [Gigolos get lonely too] • 1982 on the promo 12"-Single [The walk] • 1982 on the 12"-Single [The walk]

I don't wanna leave you (6:29)

People say you run around, I don't even care.
I could never hold you down, I don't even dare.
I just wanna play your game, no matter what the rules.
I've met an awful lot of dames, but not quite as bad as you.

Let me try to love you, I know I could.
One night to hold you, just ain't no good.

(chorus)
I don't wanna leave you, I don't wanna go.
Can't you see I need you? Girl, I need you so.

I will be your doctor babe, I'll make you feel alright.
I've got something to keep you warm, on a cold and lonely night, now turn out the light.
I will never tie you down, cuz I know you wanna be free, so free.
Say you'll let me come around, say you wanna be with me.

Let me try to love you, I know I could.
One night to hold you just ain't no good.

(repeat chorus)

All I wonna do, is make sweet love to you.
Now you wanna leave me. What am I supposed to do?
Can't you hang past to? That was 12 o'clock at night.
Why you wanna leave so soon? Girl, you know it ain't right.

(repeat chorus)

I don't wanna leave you, I don't wanna go.

Let me try to love you, I know I could.
One night to hold you, just ain't no good.
I don't wanna leave you.

(repeat chorus)


© 1982 Tionna Music ASCAP.
Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr).
Taken from the album [What Time is It?]

What Time Is It? (Front Cover)

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Reply #89 posted 04/07/15 11:36am

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Reply #90 posted 04/07/15 11:43am

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4. Ice Cream Castle pt 1

THE TIMEOn 26th and 27th March 1983, during the 2nd leg of [Prince]'s "1999"-Tour, [Prince] spends two days at Hollywood Sunset Sound to work with [Morris Day] and [Jesse Johnson] on tracks for THE TIME's third album. This was the first time, that some members of band were involved in the production process. They cut Jungle love, My summertime thang and an impromptu jam entitled Cloreen bacon skin, which was only released by [Prince] on his 1998 [Crystal Ball] album. My summertime thang finally didn't make it on this release, but a re-recorded version surfaced on THE TIME's 1990 reunion album [Pandemonium].

From 14th to 22nd April 1983, the "1999"-Tour ends 4 only days before, [Prince] works with [Morris Day] and [Jesse Johnson] at Hollywood Sunset Sound again. Amongst other tracks they recorded Chili sauce, If the kid can't make you come and Chocolate. The last song didn't make it to this album too, but like My summertime thang, a reworked version turned up on the 1990 reunion album [Pandemonium].

On 19th April 1983, a song called Velvet kitty kat (sometimes also entitled as "Mink kitty kat") and on 20th April 1983, a ballad entitled My love belongs to you were recorded too. Both were previously unreleased until now.

On 18th April 1983, [Prince] called [Jimmy Jam] and [Terry Lewis] into Hollywood Sunset Sound, and told them, that they were both let go from THE TIME. The duo stays in Los Angeles at the same time and working on the S.O.S. Band project at Larrabee Studios in West Hollywood.

On 16th May 1983 [Prince] appears at the 3rd annual Minnesota Music Awards at the Charlton Celebrity Room in Bloomington and was finally honored with six awards. He thanked Minneapolis for its support and ended the night with a 10-minute jam of "D.M.S.R." on borrowed equipment with a mix of members of his own band, [Morris Day], [Jesse Johnson] and Vanity 6. Later this night they performed a jam session at First Avenue in Minneapolis with [Jesse Johnson] on drums and Sue Ann Carwell singing the lead vocals.

Also in May 1983 [Prince], THE TIME and Vanity 6 starts preparations for the "Purple Rain" motion picture project. A warehouse in St. Louis Park, a Minneapolis suburb, was rented for band rehearsals and dancing and acting classes. [Prince] also installed most of his recording equipment and this warehouse becomes his new home studio for about 12 months.

The line-up of THE TIME finally underwent some more changes. [Monte Moir] made the decision to leave the band when he heard, that [Jimmy Jam] and [Terry Lewis] had been let go by Prince. [Terry Lewis] was replaced on bass by [Rocky Harris], a local musician who knew [Jesse Johnson]. The replacements for [Jimmy Jam] and [Monte Moir] on keyboards were found in [Paul Peterson], a member of Twin-Cities first family in jazz and [Mark Cardenas], a Los Angeles native, who had been working in jazz-rock fusion circles in Minneapolis a few years before.

On 4th October 1983, the new THE TIME line-up premiered live at First Avenue in Minneapolis. [Jerome Benton] introduced the show, enlisting the help of several bikini-clad models. He also did a soul-preacher routine, begging the audience for donations and passing a plate through the audience for their contributions to a charity fund. THE TIME played an 8-song set that includes two at this time previously unknown tracks - Jungle love and The bird. The concert was taped professional with a mobile recording unit and the live-version of The bird finally ended up on THE TIME's third album [Ice Cream Castle]. Despite a wildly receptive audience, this concert was filled with tension and it was obvious, that [Morris Day] was beginning to loose interest in the band. At the end of the show he stormed off the stage, bypassed the dressing room, and charged out the stagedoor to his Porsche. The confused band members remained behind for a somewhat tainted celebration. [Morris Day] was very dissatisfied with [Prince]'s firm control of THE TIME and the hand-picked additions to the band. Despite achieving a big commercial success with the previously two albums of THE TIME, he was also still seeing very little money for his work.

The shooting to the "Purple Rain" motion picture starts on 1st November 1983. The new bass player [Rocky Harris] showed up late for the first day of filming and was replaced by [Prince] with [Jerry Hubbard], from a noted Twin-Cities musical family, immediately. [Morris Day] was very uncooperative and chronically late to all rehearsals and filmings. He and [Prince] hardly talked with each other during the whole shooting of the movie. At one day of filming both ended up in a real fistfight and [Jellybean Johnson] had to break it up. It was evident, that they both would soon be going their separate ways without each other.

Starting on 27th December 1983, [Prince] relocates for four months to Los Angeles for some additional shootings to the "Purple Rain" motion picture and extensive recording sessions for his own "Purple Rain" album, and a new project called Apollonia 6 at Hollywood Sunset Sound. In January 1984 he also finished the work for THE TIME's third album by recording Ice cream castles and My drawers. Tricky, that appeared as the 7inch b-side of Ice cream castles, was recorded with [Morris Day] shortly thereafter in February 1984.

8th June 1984 live at the Minnesota Black Music AwardsOn 8th June 1984, THE TIME, led by [Jesse Johnson], performed Jungle love live on the 3rd annual Minnesota Black Music Awards at the Prom Center in St. Paul. [Morris Day] wasn't present at this event and his conspicuous absence sparked rumors, that THE TIME had broken up.

In late June 1984 [Morris Day] was definitely no longer interested to continuing his work with THE TIME, has moved to Santa Monica in Los Angeles (CA) and severed ties with [Prince]'s camp and his management team. Their departures weren't announced officially until after the premiere of the "Purple Rain" motion picture. Without [Morris Day], it was basically [Jesse Johnson] who leads the band. [Prince] initially wanted continue THE TIME by installing [Paul Peterson] as new frontman and lead-singer, but [Jesse Johnson] rejected this idea. After failed attempts to convince [Morris Day] to return to Minneapolis, all come to the conclusion, that THE TIME was history.

[Jerry Hubbard] and [Mark Cardenas] decided to continue working solo with [Jesse Johnson]. The remaining members [Jellybean Johnson], [Jerome Benton] and [Paul Peterson] were invited by [Prince] to a meeting at his house, where he offered [Paul Peterson] to front a new band called The Family as the lead-singer. This project was later joined by [Prince]'s girlfriend Susannah Melvoin on co-lead vocals.

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Reply #91 posted 04/08/15 9:46am

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On 15th March 1983, Prince returns in triumph to Minneapolis for a concert at 13,500-seat Met Center in Bloomington. A post-show bash was held at the Registry Hotel in Bloomington. At 2:00 am, some members of [Prince]'s band, Vanity 6 and THE TIME played a short jam session with Prince on the drums and Sue Ann Carwell(?) singing.

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Reply #92 posted 04/08/15 10:01am

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SoulAlive said:

I miss The Time! sad Such an exciting band!!

I was listening 2 the Time backing Vanity 6 on the 1999 tour. The music was beautiful, I mean they really duplicated the sound Prince was defining and played it it. Vanity 6 flowed well too

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Reply #93 posted 04/08/15 10:06am

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http://beldonsbluespoint....f-our.html

Here is part 2 of our interview with Jellybean Johnson, drummer for The Time. In it, he talks about, among other things, how real tension between Prince and The Time made Purple Rain a hit; playing with Ronnie Baker Brooks and Bernard Allison and why, when it comes to the blues, his instrument is the guitar and not the drums.

BBP: The movie Purple Rain. You were in that, right? <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O />


Johnson: Yeah.


BBP: There was a rivalry (in the movie) between the Time and Prince’s people, the Revolution.


purple+rain.jpgJohnson: And trust me, he used that—that had been going on for a couple of years—he used that to his advantage in that movie. And this is why he actually kicked Terry and Jimmy out of the fucking Time! Right before Purple Rain! Go back and watch Purple Rain. Jimmy and Terry—and people to this day think they are (in the movie). They’re not in Purple Rain. They’re not! He kicked them out! And it was supposed to be Morris’ band. He (Prince) fired them a few days before, and that’s why they went on to be famous producers.


BBP: So he did them a favor more or less, right?


Johnson: He did them a favor, more or less. But still it’s just—it’s just—all this shit is just so childish when you look back on it 35 years later. You’re like, “what the fuck was he doing?” Because you know what, man? He could have had all of us. We could have all been working for him; we could have all been making hits for him and everything and he would have made even more money. But his ego won’t let that happen. His ego cannot take that. He had all of us: every guy in the Time, with the exception of Jerome—and Jerome had his own record deal—every guy in the Time had a top 10 hit. Every one! Monte, Jesse, Jimmy and Terry sold over 100 million records. Morris, I—all of us—had Top Ten, Top Five records. Prince could have had all of us. Didn’t want to pay us; didn’t want to do it.

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BBP: So you think it was a money issue, or was it an ego issue, or both?


Johnson: I think it’s ego and money. I think it was ego and money. Because he didn’t want us to become bigger than him. When I first toured, we first went on a major tour, we made $150 a week, dude.


BBP: (laughs) Really?


Johnson: Prince made millions. Those millions he took to make Purple Rain, he made that first tour, when he got the bonuses and shit, our bonus was $150. After three fucking months on the road! That’s all we made was $150 a week! That’s all we made! Morris made more: he paid Morris more because Morris was his alter-ego, as you said. The rest of us? That’s all we got! That includes Terry and Jimmy too.


BBP: But you know what’s interesting though, that movie would not have worked if it had not been for that tension, you know?


Johnson: Yeah. You’re right. He used that, like I said, he used that to his advantage. Because the automatic tension was there, because it had been there. He used it to his advantage. And I give him credit for that. I’m still famous today for Purple Rain. I still get a little bullshit check every two or three months for Purple Rain…but Purple Rain’s going to always be part of his life too, even though he tries to poo-poo and play all of this new shit like “Screwdriver” and all that. People come to concerts, they want to hear “Purple Rain” and that old shit. This recent shit, they don’t be wanting to hear his ass with that. But it takes him time to figure shit out. But then he’ll sit down at a piano and brag about how many hits he’s got, and kick his man offstage and just play the shit by himself. That’s the kind of shit he does.
BBP: So why do you think the women get treated better?


Johnson: This goes all the way back to Vanity 6, Apollonia 6, and how we used to get treated because of them. We played for Vanity 6 and we were in their band, we didn’t get but an extra $100 for doing that shit…and when we came to major cities like New York, L.A., he booted our asses off there. He kept them, made us play for them and wouldn’t let The Time play. Do you know what it’s like to have a major star—Quincy Jones, Sting—coming to see us, and we don’t play? You know what? You should buy the Original 7ven. There’s a DVD in the album Original 7ven. You should buy that, man and watch that.

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Reply #94 posted 04/08/15 12:13pm

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Ice Cream Castles outtake

My summertime thang #1
originally recorded 26th-27th March 1983 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound [7] during the [Ice Cream Castle] Album sessions • performed by

[Prince] (all instruments & vocals)

[Morris Day] (lead vocals) &

[Jesse Johnson] (guitar)
written by
[Prince]
previously unreleased

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Reply #95 posted 04/10/15 10:55am

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  1. Ice Cream Castles
  2. My Drawers
  3. Chili Sauce
  4. Jungle Love
  5. If The Kid Can't Make You Come
  6. The Bird

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Reply #96 posted 04/10/15 11:03am

MickyDolenz

Sept 11, 1982 (Billboard)

Jan 8, 1983

November 17, 1984

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #97 posted 04/10/15 11:04am

MickyDolenz

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #98 posted 04/13/15 5:39am

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I think it was cool how there was the Jamie Starr mystery,

The Time should have had a little more Controvery, a little more diversity to their direction and message

Thanks 4 sharing these clips

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Reply #99 posted 04/13/15 5:44am

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Ice cream castles (7:32)
recorded January 1984 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments) with [Morris Day] (lead vocals) & [Jesse Johnson] (guitar) • final mixing January 1984 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) with [Morris Day] • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day]
finally released 1984 on the Album [Ice Cream Castle] • 1984 on the promo 12"-Single [Ice cream castles] • 1984 on the 12"-Single [Ice cream castles]

We are young, we are free on earth together
Let's fall in love
You are fine, you are white, I am of color
Let's fall in love

Ice cream castles in the summertime
Ice cream castles in the summer

I want you, you want me, we want each other
Is that so wrong?
It's raining mad sisters, why can't they realize
That it won't be long?

We're all ice cream castles in the summertime
Ice cream castles in the summer

Let's do something soon

We are young, we are free let's come together
Before the end
I am blue, you are too, what could be better?
Let's make friends

We're all ice cream castles in the summertime
Ice cream castles in the summertime

We're all ice cream castles in the summer
Ice cream castles in the fall
Ice cream castles in the summertime
Summertime, summertime, summertime

Is that what you need?
White girls, black girls, orientals, jamaican?

Ice cream castles in the summertime
We're all ice cream castles in the sun
Ice cream castles when we fall
Ice cream castles in the summertime, summertime

White girls, black girls, orientals, jamaican
I want you, you want me, we want each other
White girls, black girls
We are young, we are free on earth together

Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon

Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
We are young, we are free, let's come together


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Reply #101 posted 04/13/15 7:11pm

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This thread is hot..!

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #102 posted 04/14/15 9:53am

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thedance said:

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This thread is hot..!

I KNEW the Time had a lot of action between 1981-1984 but we have only touched on all the shows and background scene info

I'm enjoying the Time even more now. I took a Vanity 6 show with the Time backing them up and turned it into a music file. Their playing is soooo Purple

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Reply #103 posted 04/14/15 5:47pm

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My absolute FAVORITE band!! LOVE THIS THREAD!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
Reply #104 posted 04/14/15 6:32pm

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thedance said:

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This thread is hot..!

yeahthat So fun to remember the shenanigans (like Jamie Starr, "LA producer") and appreciate The Time's great music. Haim covered Jungle Love at Cochella today so their influence continues. Wonder how all the mystery, bad pay, and hiding behind curtains would have played in the Internet age?

Reply #105 posted 04/14/15 7:01pm

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  1. Ice Cream Castles
  2. My Drawers
  3. Chili Sauce
  4. Chili Sauce
  5. Jungle Love
  6. If The Kid Can't Make You Come
  7. The Bird

Somebody wanted extra chili sauce?

Reply #106 posted 04/14/15 10:40pm

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I haven't had a chance to go through this thread(in detail) yet, but i just wanted to thank you in advance. It looks as good as the For You thread, that you started.

I can tell that its gonna be a lot of good memories on this one. thumbs up!

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Tricky (non-album track) (lead vocals by [Prince] co lead Morris Day) (3:11)
recorded February 1984 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments & lead vocals) with [Morris Day] (drums & additional voices)
written by
[Prince] with [Morris Day] • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day]
finally released 1984 on the 7"-Single [Ice cream castles] • 1984 on the 7"-Single [Jungle love] • 1984 on the 12"-Single [Ice cream castles]• 1984 on the 12"-Single [Jungle love]

Tricky (3:11) (lead vocals by Prince)

.... 1, 2, 3, 4
.... Why you big, tossed-salad, hairdo-havin', long, tall, snaggly gold-toothed,
.... funkin' habit-formed, leather-wearin', beanpole-lookin', black...

Shit! Oh! Somebody bring me a piece of chicken!

What... what Tricky say? What Tricky say? Yakety-yak?
Yakety-yak. My ass, mutha... Uh!
Oh, gimme some horns.

You can't fuck with that, look out!
We ain't gonna put no more instruments on this.
We ain't got time. We don't have ti... What time is it?
It's time for you to ... It's time for you to retire.
You're over... wait, wait, wait!

Why you, and you?
You... you old, Michelin Man, fat, black...

Break now. Yes!

When I look in the mirror. I see your ugly face.
I just wanna run, in front of...
Wait, gimme some horns.

Now you go. You, you..., wait, wait, wait.
Let me... wait. You, you, you're just old.
That's all I know, you're just old and you're fat.
You know it too, don't you?
You know it, you're just fat and old.
Hit me! Uh! Yes! Yes!
That's right, yes!

Johnny, Johnny!
Don't you wish you could get on TV? On the one!
.... My man, say: "Johnny, Johnny!"


© 1984 Tionna Music ASCAP. Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day].

Recording Personnel
  • Prince - all vocals and instruments, except where noted (uncredited)
  • Morris Day - background vocals, drums
  • Other musical personnel unknown

-PrinceVault

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4. Ice Cream Castles pt 2

The third album, [Ice Cream Castle], was released by Warner Bros. Records on 2nd July 1984. This record was in all essentials a collaboration effort between [Prince], [Morris Day] and [Jesse Johnson]. With the exception of The bird, which was a live recording by THE TIME from 4th October 1983, there was very little musical input by the other band members. The bird features [Morris Day] on lead vocals, [Jerome Benton] on percussion, [Jesse Johnson] on guitar, [Rocky Harris] on bass, [Jellybean Johnson] on drums and [Paul Peterson] and [Mark Cardenas] on keyboards. However, [Rocky Harris] were fired before scenes with THE TIME in the "Purple Rain" motion picture were shot, so on the album sleeve his replacement in the movie, [Jerry Hubbard], is listed as the bass player. Sharon Hughes sings background vocals on If the kid can't make you come and acts as [Morris Day]'s love interest on Chili sauce. The last song also features Novi Novog on violin.

"All jams by Morris Day, except 'Jungle love' written by Morris Day & Jesse Johnson" listed the songwriting credits on the album cover. However, Ice cream castles, Jungle love and The bird were registered as a collaboration by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day]. All other songs registered solely to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr). [Jesse Johnson] stated in an later interview, that he wrotes Jungle love and that he was removed from the credits when he decided to left THE TIME in June 1984. His claim is substantiated, because in May 1984, when the songs initially were registered to ASCAP, [Jesse Johnson] was listed together with [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) and [Morris Day] as co-writer of Jungle love and The bird, but his name was omitted in July 1984 by changing the songwriting credits on both songs.

[Ice Cream Castle] is the least satisfying of the three albums, reflecting the turmoil the band was going through. Boasting solid, funky grooves and contagious singalong chants, The bird and Jungle love were the closest the album gets to achieving the band's past glories. The opener Ice cream castles is a poppier effort, but there's little rhythmic or melodic variety throughout. The rest of the songs are clearly uninspired and have to qualify as fillers. My drawers is a dull, guitar-lasted funk-metal attempt (the main synth-line of the song is borrowed from the last few minutes of The stick). Sounding like a re-worked "Do me, baby" (1981, from the [Prince] album "Controversy") the dreary If the kid can't make you come is a watered-down electric piano ballad. Even less distinguished is Chili sauce, which basically consists of background music.

The songs on [Ice Cream Castle] deal with much the same topics as the previously two album by THE TIME. The bird is a straightforward party song, introducing a dance called the bird, which doesn't require grace or personality, just "two arms and an attitude". The only serious song on this album is Ice cream castles, which concerns interracial romance. [Morris Day] says, that if two people of different races want to fall in love, the color of their skin shouldn't matter, as in the end we all share a common humanity. The title of the song is borrowed from a phrase in Joni Mitchell's song "Both sides now" (1969, from the album "Clouds"). In My drawers [Morris Day] boasts to the fellas about his woman. Chili sauce finds him attempting to seduce his female companion while having a dinner in a restaurant. This song was originally titled "Proposition #17" due to the fact that [Morris Day] tells [Jerome Benton], that he can stop him after he has tried 17 ways to convince a woman to come with him. If the kid can't make you come is also a seduction song, this time with the action take place in [Morris Day's] crib. In Jungle love he wants to show a woman his wild and untamed jungle love.

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CUT TO:

(7) INT. MORRIS' BEDROOM -- NIGHT

Morris moves lasciviously into the
BEDROOM wearing a red muscle T-shirt,
orange baggy shorts, and green knee-hi
socks fastened to garters. A yellow
bandanna holds up his hair.

The bedroom is a MESS. A VACUUM CLEANER
stands like a sentry in the middle of
the floor. He turns it on, blazes a
path to his closet. He yanks out a well-
pressed suit, holds it against him,
strikes a sexy, half-lidded pose only a
mother could love--



MORRIS
(awed)
Oh, Lord ...

This image is actually kinda sad 4 me, there seems to be a lot of background in this

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Reply #112 posted 04/15/15 12:31pm

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The Starr ★ Company

My drawers (4:08)
recorded January 1984 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments) with [Morris Day] (lead vocals) & [Jesse Johnson] (guitar) • final mixing January 1984 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1984 on the Album
[Ice Cream Castle] • 1984 on the 12"-Single [The bird] • 1990 on the 7"-Single [Chocolate] • 1990 on the 12"-Single / CD-Single [Chocolate]

My drawers (edit) (3:42)
finally released 1984 on the promo 7"-Single [The bird] • 1984 on the 7"-Single [The bird] • 1984 on the promo 12"-Single [The bird]

Baby, when we go out, I got clout, cuz I'm your number one body rocker.
Fellas? - Yeah!
She'll make you scream, your insides shout, but let me tell you what it's all about.

(chorus)
She's mine, all mine. I'm her number one body rocker all of the time.
She's mine, all mine. You better find a brand new bag, cuz these is my drawers.

Baby, I'm so ashamed, cuz I'm all aflame. I mean you've got my body hot.
Fellas? - Yeah!
She's so fast, you'd never last, you couldn't deal with the funk she's got.

(repeat chorus)

Oh baby, this is your number one. Yes, I know you're young.
But we could have so much fun.
Jesse, if you could play guitar, I'll warm up the car.
And me and this girl can see the sun rise.

Whose drawers? - My drawers!

(repeat chorus)

Take it home!


© 1984 Tionna Music ASCAP.
Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr).
Taken from the album [Ice Cream Castle]

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Reply #113 posted 04/15/15 12:33pm

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JoeyC said:

I haven't had a chance to go through this thread(in detail) yet, but i just wanted to thank you in advance. It looks as good as the For You thread, that you started.

I can tell that its gonna be a lot of good memories on this one. thumbs up!

Catch up buddy, I know you have some good insight on some of this

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Reply #114 posted 04/16/15 10:52am

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He continued "Foster Sylvers was sitting next to me ... with Peggy M. as I laid the solo. I didn't put much into it because I knew from how LOW the volume was on my solo on "My Drawers" i[t] wasn't really going to get heard very well anyway. (Unless you laid on the speakers)." Since My Drawers was recorded in January, 1984, it seems likely his solo was recorded around the same time. Jesse Johnson was initially included in the credits when submitted for copyright in May, 1984, but after he left the band, his name was removed from the credits when the track was released.

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Reply #115 posted 04/16/15 12:05pm

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8th June 1984 live at the Minnesota Black Music Awards

On 8th June 1984, THE TIME, led by [Jesse Johnson], performed Jungle love live on the 3rd annual Minnesota Black Music Awards at the Prom Center in St. Paul. [Morris Day] wasn't present at this event and his conspicuous absence sparked rumors, that THE TIME had broken up.

In late June 1984 [Morris Day] was definitely no longer interested to continuing his work with THE TIME, has moved to Santa Monica in Los Angeles (CA) and severed ties with [Prince]'s camp and his management team. Their departures weren't announced officially until after the premiere of the "Purple Rain" motion picture. Without [Morris Day], it was basically [Jesse Johnson] who leads the band. [Prince] initially wanted continue THE TIME by installing [Paul Peterson] as new frontman and lead-singer, but [Jesse Johnson] rejected this idea. After failed attempts to convince [Morris Day] to return to Minneapolis, all come to the conclusion, that THE TIME was history.

Jesse [Johnson, former guitarist for the Time] is the only one who went away who told what happened, what really went down with the band. He said there was friction, because he was in a situation that didn't quite suit him. Jesse wanted to be in front all the time. And I just don't think God puts everybody in that particular bag. And sometimes I was blunt enough to say that to people: "I don't think you should be in the frontman. I think Morris should."

ROLLING STONE (1985)


PRINCE TALKS

BY NEAL KARLEN

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Reply #116 posted 04/16/15 12:24pm

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God: 4 the rainbow

William Blinn: the story,

Alan Leeds: the expert.

Thanks 2 Don Thorin and all the cast & crew of Purple Rain

Clarence Williams, Olga Karlatos, Kim: hi,

Morris & Jerome, Katy, Billy Sparks: what up ‘tho? Richard Arrington,

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Reply #118 posted 04/21/15 8:14am

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(10) EXT. MORRIS' APARTMENT -- NIGHT

The DOOR opens -- Morris steps
confidently into the night. The change
in his appearance is breathtaking. A
cashmere coat is draped over his
shoulders, a white scarf hangs loosely
about his neck. Wearing a sharp,
gangster-style suit, his hair is a
pompadour, and Stacy Adams on his feet -
- Morris is the very picture of
elegance. He doesn't just walk to the
curb, he slides -- his promenade
punctuated with a dip at the knees you
could snap your fingers to.


JEROME is at the curb, buffing down the
bumper of a yellow, 1970 Fleetwood
Cadillac. Jerome is solidly built,
smooth-faced handsome with a boyish
charm all his own. He's a member of The
Time, and acts as Morris' chauffeur,
valet, and all-purpose shadow.


He moves quickly to the door, holds it
open as Morris settles himself into the
backseat. He closes it with a flair,
hops behind the wheel, pulls out.

'Let's Get Crazy" continues as we...

(15) EXT. CLUB (1st AVE. ST. BAR) -- NIGHT

Jerome opens the door of the CADDY,
helps Morris out. The CROWD recognizes
them immediately, rushes in for a closer
look. Morris loves the attention,
plays to their enthusiasm with a relish.
Jerome snaps a comb into his hand, holds
up a pocket mirror ...

Morris combs his hair dramatically, the
Crowd encouraging him on. Jerome gives
him the OK sign, ushers him into the
club.

"Let's Get Crazy" continues as we...

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Reply #119 posted 04/21/15 8:37am

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June 4, 1984 the Glamorous Life w/Sheila E. drops
June 7, 1984 1st Avenue Birthday show with Prince & the Revolution

June 25, 1984 Purple Rain w/Prince & the Revolution drops

Purple Rain movie premiere 7.29.1984

July 9th, 1984 Ice Cream Castles w/Morris Day & the Time drops



July 26. 1984

Mann's Chinese Theater Hollywood
6925 Hollywood Blvd.
MTV Live! Purple Rain Party Movie Premiere

performance by Sheila E.
We had carefully plotted a caravan of limos so as to orchestrate the arrivals of the various figures in the movie. One by one, limos deposited Billy Sparks, Morris Day and Jerome, The Time, Apollonia 6, Wendy & Lisa, Bobby Z, Dr. Fink and Brownmark. And they each worked their way up the red carpet, stopping for waves to fans, quick TV interviews and hundreds of photographers. The idea was, of course, that Prince would be the last to arrive and be met at curbside by a group of our security guys with whom we were in touch via walkie talkies (remember, this was before everyone had cell phones).
-Alan Leeds
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Reply #120 posted 04/21/15 9:13am

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Jerome is a very nice, cool, approachable dude. I ran into him once in a clothing store, I use to shop at. He was getting a suit to wear for another "Musicology" tour per4mance that, I had just attended the week b 4. Of course I drilled him(about prince) ..rolleyes

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
Reply #121 posted 04/21/15 10:55am

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What!?
What?
Reply #122 posted 04/21/15 11:27am

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ROLLING STONE (1990)


PRINCE TALKS

BY NEAL KARLEN


At first it seems strange for to hear Prince talking in such fond and nostalgic terms about Day and the band. Day left the Minneapolis fold right after Purple Rain, with some nasty words about the boss's supposedly dictatorial ways. Now, Prince says, "I honestly don't remember how we got it together again."

Day's old charge of overbossing, however, brings a quirkier and crosser memory. "That whole thing came from my early days, when I was working with a lot of people who weren't exactly designed for their jobs," Prince says. "I had to do a lot, and I had to have control, because a lot of them didn't know exactly what was needed."

The most often-told tale involves Prince firing the then-unknown Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis from the Time in 1982. Jam and Lewis, all parties now agree, left a Time tour on a day off to produce their first record for the SOS Band. A freak snowstorm in Atlanta grounded them for an extra day, and the two missed a gig. When Jam and Lewis returned, they were summarily fired. Jobless, the two missed Purple Rain, so they set up as producers and went scrounging for clients. In the years since, they've produced everyone from Janet Jackson to Herb Alpert, becoming the other superpower on the Minneapolis music scene.

"I'm playing the bad guy," says Prince, "but I didn't fire Jimmy and Terry. Morris asked me what I would do in his situation. Remember, it was his band."

Despite the rap, Prince says, he harbors no ill will toward the now-famous producers working across town from Paisley Park at their Flyte Time studios. "We're friends," he says. "We know each other like brothers. Jimmy always gave me a lot of credit for getting things going in Minneapolis, and I'm hip to that. Terry's more aloof, but I know that." And their music? "Terry and Jimmy aren't into the Minneapolis sound," Prince says. "They're into making every single one of their records a hit. Not that there's anything wrong with that, we're just different."

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Reply #123 posted 04/21/15 11:28am

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iZsaZsa said:

What!?

what happened Mademoiselle?

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Reply #124 posted 04/21/15 11:31am

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4got 2 post this one

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Reply #125 posted 04/21/15 12:00pm

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(15) EXT. CLUB (1st AVE. ST. BAR) -- NIGHT

Jerome opens the door of the CADDY,
helps Morris out. The CROWD recognizes
them immediately, rushes in for a closer
look. Morris loves the attention,
plays to their enthusiasm with a relish.
Jerome snaps a comb into his hand, holds
up a pocket mirror ...

Morris combs his hair dramatically, the
Crowd encouraging him on. Jerome gives
him the OK sign, ushers him into the
club.

"Let's Get Crazy" continues as we...

CUT TO:


(16) INT. CLUB (1st AVE. ST. BAR) -- NIGHT

Jerome makes his way through the crowd,
blazing a path for Morris who is
surrounded by a dozen BABES.
Occasionally Morris glances at Prince --
discloses by his look that he doesn't
care much for his act -- or his music...


He breaks off from the Girls, follows
Jerome to the backstage entrance where
they're joined by other MEMBERS of The
Time -- JESSE and JELLYBEAN among them.
Morris casts another glance toward
Prince, breaks into a self-satisfied
grin--

MORRIS
We're going to slay him...
(screams)
Whawhak!

"Let's Get Crazy" continues as we...

BACKSTAGE
as Morris and The Time pass Prince on
their way to the stage--

MORRIS
Why don't you stay awhile, see
how it's done.

The Band Members bust up -- but Prince
ignores them, then--

MC
Ladies and gentlemen -- please
welcome The Time.

Joseph E. Ferraro ... First Avenue M.C.
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18A) INT. CLUB -- NEAR STAGE -- NIGHT

MORRIS and The Time rip into a funk tune
called "Jungle Love." Their stranglehold
on the audience is instantaneous.
Morris struts across the stage like a
panther, playing to the audience with a
relish. His eyes fastened on Prince --
his pride umistakable

MORRIS meanwhile is beside himself.
Some gorgeous, dark-haired babe, eyes
wide as saucers was starlng at him from
the bar. Prince has left, and this girl
is his. He motions to Jerome, and they
direct their act in her direction.


JILL gazes at Vanity, fidgets intensely,
suspicious and resentful of her. She
glances up and notices Morris, look.
She seizes upon an idea, forces a
friendly smile, taps Vanity on the
shoulder--

JILL
Hey ...

She points to the stage. Vanity looks
at Morris, and he goes crazy,
entertaining her with his own special
blend of showmanship. The CROWD loves
it! Vanity is held a moment, but her
thouchts are elsewhere. She finally
comes to a decision, pulls away, cuts
through the club.

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Reply #126 posted 04/21/15 12:05pm

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Jungle love (5:33)
recorded 26th-27th March 1983 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments) with [Morris Day] (lead vocals) & [Jesse Johnson] (guitar) • final mixing January 1984 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day]
finally released 1984 on the Album [Ice Cream Castle] • 1984 on the promo 12"-Single [Jungle love] • 1984 on the 12"-Single [Jungle love]

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Reply #127 posted 04/21/15 12:08pm

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Jungle love (5:33)

Oh-wee-oh-wee-oh!

I, I've been watching you. I think I wanna know ya.
Said I, I'm a little dangerous. Girl, I'd love to show ya.

(chorus)
My jungle love, yeah. I think I wanna know ya.
Jungle love. Girl, I'd love to show ya.

You, you've got a pretty car. I think I wanna drive it.
I ain't playin', said I drive a little dangerous. Take you to my crib, rip you off.

(repeat chorus)

Come on baby, where's your guts? You wanna make love or what?

I wanna take you to my cage, lock you up and hide the key.
You only get water, baby. Cuz if you're hungry, take a bite of me.
(repeat chorus)

I think I wanna ... I wanna file my nails.

(repeat chorus)

Jungle love, that's right. Can't nobody fuck with me?
I got a bearskin rug, I got a fireplace too.
And I'm all the way wild baby. All the things I could do to you.

Jungle love. Yes! That's it. Ha haa!


© 1984 Tionna Music ASCAP.
Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnso].
Taken from the album [Ice Cream Castle]

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Reply #128 posted 04/21/15 12:11pm

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Initial tracking took place on 26 March, 1983 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (the day before My Summertime Thang and Cloreen Baconskin). While reflecting on the track's history on Facebook in 2014, Jesse Johnson wrote "Jungle Love- Saved my food $ the 1999 Tour came home bought a Tascam reel to reel 8 track recorder and came up with music for JUNGLE! Prince [wrote?] every word+melody and kilted it." He later added, "I used Prince's Hohner Tele to play the rhythm guitar part ... Did the solo at a later date in LA @ Sunset Sound using the Pink G&L prototype + my fawn colored 1979 Marshall JCM 800," indicating that a second recording date took place.

Jesse Johnson was initially included in the credits when submitted for copyright in May, 1984, but after he left the band, his name was removed from the credits when the track was released.

-PrinceVault

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Reply #129 posted 04/21/15 12:31pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Jerome is a very nice, cool, approachable dude. I ran into him once in a clothing store, I use to shop at. He was getting a suit to wear for another "Musicology" tour per4mance that, I had just attended the week b 4. Of course I drilled him biggrin..

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Thanks 4 post that tour pic of Jerome & Prince

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Reply #130 posted 04/21/15 12:39pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

 



iZsaZsa said:


What!?

 


what happened Mademoiselle?


What did KCOOLMUSIQ do to Jerome? What is he saying?
What?
Reply #131 posted 04/21/15 12:59pm

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iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

what happened Mademoiselle?

What did KCOOLMUSIQ do to Jerome? What is he saying?

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I think Kcool said he met Jerome at the clothing store while he was getting a new suit. Started talking as Jerome is very nice, approachable and cool dude...and then Kcool took his chance and DRILLED him! eek

.

I had to read it again...but that's what Kcool said he did to Jerome, well at least he's honest and not ashamed about it! No offense but that's quite a confession... razz

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Jerome is a very nice, cool, approachable dude. I ran into him once in a clothing store, I use to shop at.

He was getting a suit to wear for another "Musicology" tour per4mance that, I had just attended the week b 4. Of course I drilled him biggrin..

[Edited 4/21/15 13:02pm]

Reply #132 posted 04/21/15 1:12pm

iZsaZsa

Okay. lol
What?
Reply #133 posted 04/21/15 10:18pm

SoulAlive

Am I the only one who was slightly disappointed with Ice Cream Castles? boxed

I just don't think it's a strong Time album."Jungle Love" has a great groove,but the song is too repetitive."The Bird" is alot of fun,but seems hastily thrown together."Chili Sauce" is filler,and the slow jam "If The Kid Can't Make U Come" is just downright silly lol

The previous album What Time Is It? is a pure masterpiece.A true classic!

Maybe the departure of Jam and Lewis is to blame,or maybe Prince was rushed and didn't have enough time to make the album special,but Ice Cream Castles lacks that 'extra something'.

Reply #134 posted 04/21/15 10:36pm

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SoulAlive said:

Am I the only one who was slightly disappointed with Ice Cream Castles? boxed

I just don't think it's a strong Time album."Jungle Love" has a great groove,but the song is too repetitive."The Bird" is alot of fun,but seems hastily thrown together."Chili Sauce" is filler,and the slow jam "If The Kid Can't Make U Come" is just downright silly lol

The previous album What Time Is It? is a pure masterpiece.A true classic!

Maybe the departure of Jam and Lewis is to blame,or maybe Prince was rushed and didn't have enough time to make the album special,but Ice Cream Castles lacks that 'extra something'.

-

Yes, it needs another decent song.

I like the beat of 'My Drawers' (there's some energy to it) but overall ICC feels like half an album.

Reply #135 posted 04/21/15 10:57pm

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EroticDreamer said:

SoulAlive said:

Am I the only one who was slightly disappointed with Ice Cream Castles? boxed

I just don't think it's a strong Time album."Jungle Love" has a great groove,but the song is too repetitive."The Bird" is alot of fun,but seems hastily thrown together."Chili Sauce" is filler,and the slow jam "If The Kid Can't Make U Come" is just downright silly lol

The previous album What Time Is It? is a pure masterpiece.A true classic!

Maybe the departure of Jam and Lewis is to blame,or maybe Prince was rushed and didn't have enough time to make the album special,but Ice Cream Castles lacks that 'extra something'.

-

Yes, it needs another decent song.

I like the beat of 'My Drawers' (there's some energy to it) but overall ICC feels like half an album.

Exactly! It feels like a half-baked album."My Drawers" is my favorite song,though music It has an attitude and humor that's missing from the other tracks.

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SoulAlive said:

Am I the only one who was slightly disappointed with Ice Cream Castles? boxed

I just don't think it's a strong Time album."Jungle Love" has a great groove,but the song is too repetitive."The Bird" is alot of fun,but seems hastily thrown together."Chili Sauce" is filler,and the slow jam "If The Kid Can't Make U Come" is just downright silly lol

The previous album What Time Is It? is a pure masterpiece.A true classic!

Maybe the departure of Jam and Lewis is to blame,or maybe Prince was rushed and didn't have enough time to make the album special,but Ice Cream Castles lacks that 'extra something'.

After What Time Is It? Yes Ice Cream Castles feels 'undone'

I love the Title Track, and actually enjoy most of the music on the album

but something is missing.

The Bird & Jungle Love feel like a different album
I think if Prince released a Purple Rain Soundtrack those songs would be perfect alone, they don't seem to fit Ice Cream Castles.
I always felt My Drawers should have had a little more Let's Go Crazy

Let's Go Crazy
Words and Music by Prince
Performed by Prince and the Revolution
© 1984 Controversy Music
Jungle Love
Words and Music by Morris Day & Jesse Johnson
Performed by Morris Day and The Time
© 1984 Tionna Music
Take Me With U
Words and Music by Prince
Performed by Prince and Apollonia Kotero (as Apollonia)
© 1984 Controversy Music
Modernaire
Words and Music by Dez Dickerson
Performed by Dez Dickerson
© 1984 Dezsound
The Beautiful Ones
Words and Music by Prince
Performed by Prince
© 1984 Controversy Music
God (Love Theme From Purple Rain)
Music by Prince
Performed by Prince
© 1984 Controversy Music
When Doves Cry
Words and Music by Prince
Performed by Prince
© 1984 Controversy Music
Father's Song
Written by John L. Nelson
Performed by Prince
© 1984 Controversy Music
Computer Blue
Words and Music by Wendy Melvoin (as Wendy), Lisa Coleman (as Lisa) and Prince
Performed by Prince
© 1984 Controversy Music
Darling Nikki
Words and Music by Prince
Performed by Prince
© 1984 Controversy Music
Sex Shooter
Words and Music by Apollonia 6 and Prince (as The Starr Company)
Performed by Apollonia Kotero, Brenda Bennett and Susan Moonsie as (Apollonia 6)
© 1984 Controversy Music
The Bird
Words and Music by Morris Day & Jesse Johnson
Performed by Morris Day and The Time
© 1984 Controversy Music
Purple Rain
Words and Music by Prince
Performed by Prince and the Revolution
© 1984 Controversy Music
I Would Die 4 U
Words and Music by Prince
Performed by Prince and the Revolution
© 1984 Controversy Music
Baby I'm A Star
Words and Music by Prince
Performed by Prince and the Revolution
© 1984 Controversy Music

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Morris Day, although he did have a moderate successful solo career after "Purple Rain", should have been HUGE! He had the comedic chops. He could have been the next Eddie Murphy or Mike Epps. Now he is stuck playing the Morris Day character that prince created the rest of his life.

It's quite sad. prince still has power over him 4ever....

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Morris Day, although he did have a moderate successful solo career after "Purple Rain", should have been HUGE! He had the comedic chops. He could have been the next Eddie Murphy or Mike Epps. Now he is stuck playing the Morris Day character that prince created the rest of his life.

It's quite sad. prince still has power over him 4ever....

It is sad.

I think the group talked about it in a different forum

He has the capabilities to break out of that easily

And they had it with the 07 group/album

.

1.) song messages need to expand

2.) He need to take note after Sheila E. (start playing drums and singing)

3.) should do some stuff with some of the others from his time with Prince, Sheila E, Revolution members(I would love Lisa & Wendy to produce him) do some music with the Family

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When I auditioned for The Time...(laughs faintly) I was scared to death. I'll never forget it. I was, of all things, on vacation in a place called Breezy Point and I got the call for the audition.

(I) went home and I did not get the cassette tape on time. I got it the night before the audition and had to learn everything the night before the gig.

I was nervous. I went in did the best I could, based on all the training I got from my family and all the gigs I had done prior to that. I guess it turned out okay. I wish I could remember the exact number (of songs I played), but, it felt like a million songs. It was probably four or five.

The first time I met Prince was at the first callback—my second audition (with The Time). He wasn't at the first one. I was nervous. He was this big rock star.

He walked into the room and I think we were picking out swatches for the material we were going use for the suits in the movie ("Purple Rain"). It became my orange suit. I had picked out a beautiful black pinstriped suit and he said "No, you've got to stand out." Then he picked out an orange one for me. I said "I'm not wearing that." He said "Yes, you are."

So, that was one portion of our meeting.

Filming "Purple Rain..." talk about being thrown to the wolves, in a good way. My phrase is "Be ready for the opportunity, because, you don't when it's going to strike." I was fortunate enough for that to be a pretty incredible opportunity.
Those guys put me right in the mix. One minute, I'm auditioning for the band, the next minute I'm filming for a little film. We didn't know what it was going to do-- now it's turned into an incredible entity and is part of music history. It's pretty humbling, but, you never know that going in. You have to be ready.
I think growing up in that family of mine prepared me for a lot of different situations. (But), it couldn't prepare me for what those guys gave to me. It was a whole new line of education.
The one and only scene where I had a line was when we're (The Time) walking through the back hallways of First Avenue and Morris Day leans back and says "How's the family?"
They had us there quite a bit, more than you would think. (There were) a lot of club scenes. We didn't have any major speaking roles, but, we were there a lot. It was freezing. I remember that.

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Morris Day, although he did have a moderate successful solo career after "Purple Rain", should have been HUGE! He had the comedic chops. He could have been the next Eddie Murphy or Mike Epps. Now he is stuck playing the Morris Day character that prince created the rest of his life.

It's quite sad. prince still has power over him 4ever....

It is sad.

I think the group talked about it in a different forum

He has the capabilities to break out of that easily

And they had it with the 07 group/album

.

1.) song messages need to expand

2.) He need to take note after Sheila E. (start playing drums and singing)

3.) should do some stuff with some of the others from his time with Prince, Sheila E, Revolution members(I would love Lisa & Wendy to produce him) do some music with the Family

Only Morris's diehard fans, barely even know he plays drums, let alone played on some of prince's classc early funk "MasterPieces"...He needs to get behind that kit again LIVE! Peeps would be shocked! Even Morris said he wishes he was the drummer 4 "The Revolution" instead of playing a character.

He's stuck in an old school 80's revival tour mode. Wendy & Lisa CAN'T & NEVER have written a hit 4 anyone! Morris needs Bruno Mars to write and produce a hit 4 him like. "Uptown Funk"! Not to say he is not a good live per4mer. I've seen him several times live, with his revived group( I refuse to call them "The Time"). He is an excellent entertainer. Jerome even tried to pull me on stage with them once.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
Reply #146 posted 04/23/15 4:36pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It is sad.

I think the group talked about it in a different forum

He has the capabilities to break out of that easily

And they had it with the 07 group/album

.

1.) song messages need to expand

2.) He need to take note after Sheila E. (start playing drums and singing)

3.) should do some stuff with some of the others from his time with Prince, Sheila E, Revolution members(I would love Lisa & Wendy to produce him) do some music with the Family

Only Morris's diehard fans, barely even know he plays drums, let alone played on some of prince's classc early funk "MasterPieces"...He needs to get behind that kit again LIVE! Peeps would be shocked! Even Morris said he wishes he was the drummer 4 "The Revolution" instead of playing a character.

He's stuck in an old school 80's revival tour mode. Wendy & Lisa CAN'T & NEVER have written a hit 4 anyone! Morris needs Bruno Mars to write and produce a hit 4 him like. "Uptown Funk"! Not to say he is not a good live per4mer. I've seen him several times live, with his revived group( I refuse to call them "The Time"). He is an excellent entertainer. Jerome even tried to pull me on stage with them once.

I mean they would take him through a different perspective. I'm not talking about having a hit. They could do that though.

Something that can help him express some other feelings and ideals. They could do it, and especially being from the same camp

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24) INT. REHEARSAL HALL -- DAY

MUSIC throbs throuch the crammed,
rundown REHEARSAL HALL. Hardwood
floors, a wall of mirrors, and a bank of
windows provides the setting. SUNLIGHT
streams through tattered yellow shades.



The Time is set up on one side providing
the music for "Sex Shooter" a saucy
number with an irresistible beat.

Morris, with Jerome by his side, stands
in the middle of the floor, SHOUTS
instructions to...

...BRENDA and SUSAN, gamely trying some
intricate dance steps. Brenda is 21
years old, blond, sexy, with an alluring
new-wave look. Susan is 16 years old,
with dark, lustrous hair and a sexy baby-
doll quality. Right now they're tired as
hell, and a little angry--



MORRIS
One, two, three, kick! One,
two, three, kick! Four,
five...Oh, Lord. Cut! Cut!

The MUSIC stops, the girls come to a
halt -- Morris regards them evenly--



MORRIS
You ladies don't seem to
realize how valuable my time
is. You're going to make my
boys look bad.

BRENDA
Why don't you let us come up
with our own steps?

Morris glares at her--

MORRIS
We tried that...
(sweetly)
... remember?

The Girls fidget--

MORRIS
Now you're in the best
possible position you can be
in, so what' s the matter --
your shoes on too tight or
something?
(claps his hands)
Let's have some action, let's
have some asses wiggling, I
want some perfection. Whawhak!



The MUSIC starts up -- the Girls start
dancing. Morris looks woefully to
Jerome---

MORRIS
I think I'm going to need a
drink, a strong drink.
(a beat)
Let's get the hell out of
here.

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(25) EXT. STREETS AND ALLEY -- DOWNTOWN -- DAY

Morris and Jerome move briskIy down the
sidewalk--



MORRIS
This just ain't happening. The
bitches are okay, but we need
something more exciting-


JEROME
You're right. We could be
doing much better. Any ideas?


MORRIS
That powder fine babe we saw
last night.


JEROME
Oooh, yeee! -- Why don't we
find out who she is?


Morris snaps an address in front of his
face--

MORRIS
I already know that. Jill
gave me everything last night.
Whawhak!


JEROME
Then what are we waiting for?
Let's go!


MORRIS
No, no -- that ain't classy
enough. I want the bitch to
come to me -- I'm the only
star in this town.



Suddenly a BEAUTIFUL BABE lunges into
the sidewalk from the alley--



BABE
(yelling)
Morris Day, who do you think
you are?! I waited up all
night for you. I'm so tired
of you doing that to me. You
think you're so hot? You're
nothing special. This is the
third time you pulled that
shit. Who the fuck do you
think I am?!


MORRIS
Jerome!

Jerome puts the girl in a headlock,
DRAGS her into the alley--



BABE
(screaming)
Leave me alone you ape! --
What are you doing to me?!
Morris!!


He flings her into the dumpster, SLAMS
the lid with a CRASH. Morris pats his
brow--




MORRIS
Lo-rd..! Such nastiness.
(a beat)
Hee, hee -- Let's break.

They streak across the street, double-
time it to the CADDY. A COP sweeps by,
gives them a curious look. Morris puts
on a dignified air, then stops,
stupified--

MORRIS
Jerome, this car --
it's...it's lacking something.
What do you think?

JEROME
Hmm... I don't know...

MORRIS
I got it! The hubcaps. We
need something sweeter.

JEROME
I think I know what it needs.

Morris is pondering his Stacy Adams--

MORRIS
Yeah ... I know what these
need.

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Brinke Stevens: Appears in the music video for "Ice Cream Castles" by The Times

Doomed Moviethon: One day, much to my surprise, I spotted you in The Time's 1984 music video for "Ice Cream Castles". Do you have any memories from that gig ...

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Ice Cream Castles

Initial tracking took place on 13 January, 1984 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA. The song's title is a phrase used in Joni Mitchell's song Both Sides, Now (from Clouds, 1969, and also released as a single, although the song was first released by Judy Collins in 1968). While reflecting about the song's history on Facebook in 2014, Jesse Johnson stated, "Morris & I recorded a song name "Old & Ingnorant" [sic] in Mpls the next day M & I fly out to meet P. In LA, at Sunset Sound he dug it and the track was rerecorded, rewritten, and became "Ice Cream Castles"! ... (Prince kept telling me "It's so cool how you played the bass on the AND instead of the 1" great compliment even though at that time I didn't know what he was talking about...yeah of course I do now!)"

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* There was a discussion thread here with an interview by Jesse Johnson where he talked about the recordings of a lot of the Time music, anyone remember that link??

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(26) INT. SHOESHINE STAND -- DOWNTOWN -- DAY

Morris sits in the chair, his Stacy
Adams worked on by an old, grizzled
SHOESHINE BOY in his mid-sixties, with
large jowls and silver close-cropped
hair. Jerome stands nearby, watches
intently--


MORRIS
(musing)
The girl has expensive tastes.
I wonder if she can sing.

JEROME
As fine as she is...she
doesn't have to know how to
sing.

MORRIS
(grace)
I know that's right.
(to Shoeshine)
Hey -- watch it now.

The Shoeshine Boy looks up balefully --
Morris smiles, then grits his teeth--



MORRIS
I want you to stay out of the
set tonight. I want you to
work the floor.

JEROME
What for?

MORRIS
I want to know when that sweet
thing shows up. You stay by
the door, you see her, you
come get me, cool?

JEROME
Cool. I come get you -- let
you know the girl's there.

MORRIS
Well, not if I'm with my other
babes. That wouldn't be cool.
I don't want to break their
hearts, and you know how I
feel abouy that. So we ought
to have like, a signal.

JEROME
A password.


MORRIS
Okay. What's the password?

JEROME
You got it.

MORRIS
Got what?

JEROME
The password.

MORRIS
The password is what?

JEROME
Exactly.

MORRIS
The password is exactly?

JEROME
No, it's--

MORRIS
-- Hold it now. Slow down.
The babe walks in and you see
her.

JEROME
I see her.

MORRIS
You come get me.

JEROME
I come get you.

MORRIS
And I'll probably have a
couple little sexies on the
stand-by, and we don't want to
upset them, do we? So you
just glide by me and
say...what?

JEROME
Okay.

MORRIS
The password is okay?

JEROME
Far as I'm concerned.

MORRIS
Dammit! Say the password.

JEROME
What.

MORRIS
Say the password, sperm
breath!

JEROME
The password is what.

MORRIS
(frustrated)
That's what I'm asking you!

JEROME
(more frustrated)
It's the password!

MORRIS
The password is it?

JEROME
(exasperated)
Ahhhhh! The password is what!

MORRIS
It! You just said so!

JEROME
The password isn't it! The
password is--

MORRIS
-- What?

JEROME
Got it!

MORRIS
1 got it?

JEROME
Right.

MORRIS
It or right?

JEROME
(perplexed)
What??

The Shoeshine Boy looks up slowly --
regards them with a soulfull look--

SHOESHINE BOY
Either of you do heavy drugs?

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Part 3

Despite being the last inspired of all three albums, but undoubtedly supported by [Morris Day's] charismatic appearance in the "Purple Rain" motion picture, [Ice Cream Castle] sold better then both previously albums, attaining platinum status (1 million sold copies). It was also the first album that really attracts a white following. It hits position #3 at the Billboard R&B-Charts and #24 at the Pop-Charts. Again three singles were released: The first Ice cream castles reached #11 at the R&B-Charts but didn't make it to the Pop-Charts. The biggest success so far came with the second single, Jungle love, which hits #6 at the R&B-Carts and #20 at the Pop-Charts. The bird, as the third single, peaked #33 at the R&B-Charts and #36 at the Pop-Charts.

The b-side of Ice cream castles was again a non-album [Prince] penned song called Tricky, which was actually sung by [Prince] with an altered voice. This track was recorded by [Prince] (all instruments & lead-vocals) with [Morris Day] (drums) in February 1984 at Hollywood Sunset Sound, when the work on the album was completed. A really funky workout, the song is a good-natured jab directed to an artist who has seen better days and who is told quite bluntly to retire. The target of the song was actually George Clinton, one of [Prince]'s favorite idols.

Despite persistent rumors, it took over three years before the originally line-up of THE TIME finally got back together on stage. On 2nd October 1987, THE TIME reunite for a concert on the 6th annual Minnesota Black Music Award at the Roy Wilkins Auditorium in St. Paul's Civic Center, where [Prince] was inducted into the Minnesota Black Music Awards Hall of Fame. The ceremonies were emceed by [Jerome Benton], who was also a member of the eagerly awaited live-show by THE TIME, which was the undisputed highlight of this evening. All original members of the band, barring [Monte Moir], who was expecting the birth of his first child, treated the crowd of nearly 4,000 people to a set of some of their most popular songs. [Prince] wasn't present, choosing instead to attend a concert by David Bowie.

There were also plans to reform THE TIME for another record and a possible tour. Since the band dissolved in late June 1984, most band members had launched highly successful careers as solo artists or producers, which meant that not everyone of them saw THE TIME as their main priority any longer. There was also tension between some of the members, which further complicated matters. The 1987 reunion proved premature, but the original line-up of the band eventually did get together to record another album one day.

Finally it took another year and a half before things eventually fell into place. Somehow all reported bad feelings were put aside and a possibly new THE TIME album, once again produced by [Prince], was on the cards.
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35) INT/BACKSTAGE ENTRANCE/CLUB -- NIGHT

Morris stands by the door surrounded by
several delicious BABES. One of them,
wearing a tight, red dress, looks
especially enticing. Morris leans in
closer -- her tasty breasts strain
against the spandex material--



MORRIS
Honey -- don't you ever try
and breastfeed no baby now.

GIRL
Why not?

MORRIS
Never mind ...

Jerome appears--

JEROME
What.

MORRIS
What?

JEROME
Right. What.

MORRIS
What??

JEROME
You got it.

Jerome snaps his head to the side -- Morris
looks, sees Vanity sitting at a table.
His eyes dance mischievously--


MORRIS
Ye-es
(to Girl)
What time is it?

GIRL
(coyly)
Tea time.

MORRIS
So, right.

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Chili sauce (originally entitled as "Proposition #17") (5:48)
recorded 14th April 1983 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments) with [Morris Day] (lead vocals), [Jesse Johnson] (guitar), Novi Novog (violin) & Sharon Hughes (background vocals) • final mixing January 1984 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1984 on the Album
[Ice Cream Castle] • 1984 on the promo 7"-Single [Jungle love]

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Reply #158 posted 04/29/15 11:55am

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Chili sauce (5:48)

.... (Ah, good evening Mr. Day. Two for dinner?)
Yes, give us one of those little sexy tables in the back.
.... (Oh, I'm sorry Sir, those are all taken.)
Jerome ...
.... (Urgh! I think maybe we can arrange it, Mr. Day.)
Thank you so much.
.... Oh Morris, was that necessary?
Jerome...
.... OK, OK, I'm sorry.
.... (Right this way, Sir.)

You know, this is an exciting establishment you have here.
.... (What I wouldn't give for a broken bottle.)
I can't hear you, what'd you say?
.... (I said ... I said, "Yes, we're remodeling"
Mm, hmm.
.... (Cocktails before dinner?)
Yes, two Pina Coladas.
.... Make mine a virgin.
.... (OK, will you be having a virgin as well?)
Yes! For dessert! Ha ha ha ha ha!
.... (Sir, I'm afraid I don't get it.)
Say, do you know how to do "the walk"?
.... Why? Certainly everyone can do "the walk".
Well honey, why don't you just walk your ass to the other side of the room?
.... (Fuck you too.)

Ah my dear, it's rough at the top.
Jerome? Ehem, get your pad and pencil. I think it's gonna be kinda right.
If my judge of character's correct, it's gonna be by the letter tonight.
Now stop me when I get to 17.
Excuse me, baby.

I bet you didn't know I had a piece of this restaurant, did you?
But it looks like I'm gonna have to buy the whole thing and fire that man.
May I taste that?
Excuse me, that's kinda weak. Here, try mine. You know...
.... Good God!
They say that saliva is an aphrodisiac.
You look so lovely tonight.
.... Why? Thank you.
Probably even better under exotic red lights.
I wish you could see my home, it's... it's so exciting.
In my bedroom, I have a brass waterbed.
.... Really?
Mm hmm. It's just surrounded by plants and lights and shit.
And all kinds of little erotic artifacts. We could have breakfast in bed.
.... Oh!
I have an Italian cook. Jerome Sa ... Sa ... Sagagagracci or something like that.
It's funny, your eyes when you stare at me like that. It causes my ... my stomach to quiver.
Oh Lord!

Do you like diamonds?
.... Mm, hmm!
Yeah?
.... Yeah!
I know it's rather masculine, but try this one on.
.... Wow!
My God darling, it fits. You must have strong hands.
But they're so soft. Like the oils in my morning bath.
.... (Somebody help me)

Darling?
.... Yeah.
I'm not usually so forward, but ... would you like to make love to me?
.... Hmmm?
I ... I could make it so nice.

Do you know what is meant by the words, uhh...? I hate to use them.
They're ... they're so harsh, so american. You know what I mean?
And yet on the other hand, they're exciting words. The words, "Chili sauce"
Oh Lord!

You know, I haven't made love in so long.
But with you, I know it would be just like riding a bike.
I'd remember everything I've ever learned.
Baby, if the Kid can't make you come, nobody can.
.... ((Morris ...))
Yeah.
.... ((17.))
Oh, um ...
What's it gonna be, baby?
.... Chili sauce.
Oh Lord!


© 1984 Tionna Music ASCAP.
Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr).
Taken from the album [Ice Cream Castle]
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Reply #159 posted 04/29/15 11:59am

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Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #160 posted 04/29/15 5:05pm

iZsaZsa

OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 




Chili sauce (5:48)


.... (Ah, good evening Mr. Day. Two for dinner?)
Yes, give us one of those little sexy tables in the back.
.... (Oh, I'm sorry Sir, those are all taken.)
Jerome ...
.... (Urgh! I think maybe we can arrange it, Mr. Day.)
Thank you so much.
.... Oh Morris, was that necessary?
Jerome...
.... OK, OK, I'm sorry.
.... (Right this way, Sir.)

You know, this is an exciting establishment you have here.
.... (What I wouldn't give for a broken bottle.)
I can't hear you, what'd you say?
.... (I said ... I said, "Yes, we're remodeling"
Mm, hmm.
.... (Cocktails before dinner?)
Yes, two Pina Coladas.
.... Make mine a virgin.
.... (OK, will you be having a virgin as well?)
Yes! For dessert! Ha ha ha ha ha!
.... (Sir, I'm afraid I don't get it.)
Say, do you know how to do "the walk"?
.... Why? Certainly everyone can do "the walk".
Well honey, why don't you just walk your ass to the other side of the room?
.... (Fuck you too.)

Ah my dear, it's rough at the top.
Jerome? Ehem, get your pad and pencil. I think it's gonna be kinda right.
If my judge of character's correct, it's gonna be by the letter tonight.
Now stop me when I get to 17.
Excuse me, baby.

I bet you didn't know I had a piece of this restaurant, did you?
But it looks like I'm gonna have to buy the whole thing and fire that man.
May I taste that?
Excuse me, that's kinda weak. Here, try mine. You know...
.... Good God!
They say that saliva is an aphrodisiac.
You look so lovely tonight.
.... Why? Thank you.
Probably even better under exotic red lights.
I wish you could see my home, it's... it's so exciting.
In my bedroom, I have a brass waterbed.
.... Really?
Mm hmm. It's just surrounded by plants and lights and shit.
And all kinds of little erotic artifacts. We could have breakfast in bed.
.... Oh!
I have an Italian cook. Jerome Sa ... Sa ... Sagagagracci or something like that.
It's funny, your eyes when you stare at me like that. It causes my ... my stomach to quiver.
Oh Lord!

Do you like diamonds?
.... Mm, hmm!
Yeah?
.... Yeah!
I know it's rather masculine, but try this one on.
.... Wow!
My God darling, it fits. You must have strong hands.
But they're so soft. Like the oils in my morning bath.
.... (Somebody help me)

Darling?
.... Yeah.
I'm not usually so forward, but ... would you like to make love to me?
.... Hmmm?
I ... I could make it so nice.

Do you know what is meant by the words, uhh...? I hate to use them.
They're ... they're so harsh, so american. You know what I mean?
And yet on the other hand, they're exciting words. The words, "Chili sauce"
Oh Lord!

You know, I haven't made love in so long.
But with you, I know it would be just like riding a bike.
I'd remember everything I've ever learned.
Baby, if the Kid can't make you come, nobody can.
.... ((Morris ...))
Yeah.
.... ((17.))
Oh, um ...
What's it gonna be, baby?
.... Chili sauce.
Oh Lord!




© 1984 Tionna Music ASCAP.
Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr).
Taken from the album [Ice Cream Castle]

17 what?
What?
Reply #161 posted 04/30/15 10:10am

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(38) INT. VAN1TY'S TABLE AND CLUB -- NIGHT

She sits demurely. Morris' eyes are
wide and shining -- her beauty up close
astonishes him--

JEROME
Vanity, I'd like you to meet
Morris E. Day.

MORRIS
Hold it now -- just leave the
'E' alone.

JEROME
(clears throat)
Vanity...this is Morris Day


MORRIS
The pleasure's all mine.

she offers her hand -- he takes it
decorously--



JEROME
If you'd excuse me.

Morris signals him -- whispers into his
ear--

MORRIS
Too sexy ...
(a beat)
Have a waitress bring.a
bottle of their best
champacne.

He seats himself, fastens her with a
sexy, half-lidded look--

MORRIS
Your lips would make a
lollipop too happy.

VANITY
You think so, huh?

MORRIS
Ye-es.

Kim appears with a bottle of champacne
in ice--

KIM
Who's paying for this Morris?

MORRIS
I think you know that.
(a beat)
Jerome!

Jerome appears, opens the bottle with a
flair, performs a classy taste test.
Morris pulls out some cash, pays him,
who snatches the money, leaves--

MORRIS
Huh, keep the change--

He whispers to Jerome--

MORRIS
Get my change, will ya?

Jerome leaves, Morris purses his lips--



MORRIS
Oh, Lord...either somebody put
something in my drink, or you
are the finest (motherfucker)
I've seen in ages.

VANITY
Excuse me, what did you say?

MORRIS
Huh...you look nice tonight.

He leans in, speaks with a sexy voice--

MORRIS
It's rare that I out my cards
on the table when it comes to
meeting younq ladies, but ...
I'm going to make you love me.

VANITY
Is that a fact?

He folds his legs dramatically, his
Stacy Adams reflecting the light--

MORRIS
Just as sure as my Stacy Adams
are shiny.

Just then--

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Reply #162 posted 04/30/15 10:13am

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(50) EXT. PRINCE'S HOUSE AND STREET -- NIGHT

Vanity moves quickly along the side of
the house, trying desperately to find
her wav. Suddenly a HAND reaches out of
the darkness, GRABS her by the throat.
She SCREAMS, swings her bag desperately
-- something CRASHES, into the bushes--



VOICE
Damn, baby, hold it! Hold
it!!
(wails)
Oh, God -- God! You broke my
nose!

She sees it's Morris -- she's beside
herself with fear and rage--

VANITY
You shit! What the hell are
you doing here?

He struggles in the bushes -- DOGS start
BARKING--

MORRIS
Shh! Shh! Shh! oh, Lord help
me outta here.
(a beat)
Hee, hee -- I know you
wouldn't want to spend the
whole night with ol' pencil
dick.

VANITY
Your nose alright?

MORRIS
My nose is fine, I'm just
wondering if I fucked my shoes
up...
(a beat)
C'mon ...

They cut across the yard, head to the
street. The CADDY is parked at the
curb. Jerome leans against it, reading
a newspaper--

VANITY
Hi, Jerome. Wow! Nice
hubcaps.

He grins proudly from ear to ear -- the
Caddy sports new chrome wire wheels--

JEROME
You like them, huh?

VANITY
Beautiful.

Morris MOANS dismally--

MORRIS
Jerome...you think these can
be fixed?

His shoes are badly scuffed, the leather
torn across the top--

JEROME
I think they're dead, man.


VANITY
God, I'm sorry.

MORRIS
Shit -- it's so rough out
here.

Just then a PATROL CAR cruises by. The
COP regards them suspiciously. Morris
and Jerome snap to attention--

MORRIS
You lock the door, baby?
Let's go!

They pile into the Caddy, pull out.


(51) EXT. HIGHWAY -- NIGHT

The CADDY blazes by in the night. The
CITY LIGHTS glimmer spectacularly in the
distance.

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Reply #163 posted 04/30/15 10:37am

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(52) INT./EXT. CADDY -- NIGHT

Jerome drives. Morris and Vanity sit in
the backseat. He gazes at her ardently--

MORRIS
Jerome!

Jerome snaps a look in the rear-view --
Morris gives him a deft nod. Jerome
opens the glove compartment, searches
through the cassette tapes. He finds the
one he wants, snaps it into the player.
RESTAURANT AMBIANCE fills the car...

Note: The restaurant ambiance will grow
in volume, and will be followed by
exaggerated dinner music, punctuated
with strings and delicate cymbals. The
MUSIC plays throughout this scene -- and
Morris times his words to the ebb and
flow of the piece to insure the proper
dramatic effect.

...dinner MUSIC begins--

JEROME
Cocktails before dinner?

MORRIS
Yes -- two piña coladas.

VANITY
Uh...make mine a virgin.

JEROME
Okay...

Jerome braces his knees against the
wheel, pours two premixed coladas into
plastic glasses--

JEROME
(to Morris)
Will you be having a virgin as
well?

MORRIS
Ye-es! For dessert!!
Whawhak!

Jerome stifles a laugh, pours a rum
miniature into Morris' glass. He hands
them back--

MORRIS
Thank you. Here you are,
dear.

They savor their drinks -- Morris'
fervor grows by leaps and bounds--

MORRIS
Jerome, uh, get your pad and
pencil, I think it's gonna be
kinda right. If my judge of
character is correct, it's
going to be about loving
tonight.
(a beat)
Stop me when I get to
seventeen.

Jerome places a pad by his side, pencil
at the ready. He settles the Caddy to a
cruising 55 -- Morris looks deeply into
Vanity's eyes--

MORRIS
Excuse me, baby...I bet you
didn't know I had a piece of
this restaurant, did you?
(a beat)
May I taste that?

He takes Vanity's drink, slurps a
little, burps--

MORRIS
Huh, excuse me, that's kind of
weak...here, try mine.

She does, and begins coughing violently-
-

VANITY
Good God!

MORRIS
Y'know...they say that saliva
is an aphrodisiac.
(a beat)
You look so lovely tonight.

VANITY
(coughing)
Why...thank you.

MORRIS
Probably you'd look better
under exotic...red...liqhts.
(another though)
I wish you could see my home.
It's...it's so exciting.

He leans close to her, speaks in a soft,
sexy voice--

MORRIS
In my bedroom, I have a brass
waterbed ...

VANITY
Oooh!

MORRIS
I have an Italian cook, Gino
Izogochograchi, or something
like that.

She giggles, looks at him deeply--

MORRIS
It's funny...your eyes -- when
you stare at me like that, it
causes my stomach to qui-
quiver. Oh, Lord...

An idea flashes across his mind--

MORRIS
Do you like diamonds?

VANITY
Uh, huh.

MORRIS
Yeah ...?

VANITY
Yeah.

MORRIS
I know it's rather masculine,
but -- try this one on.

He slides a large glass diamond on her
finger--

VANITY
Ohhh!

MORRIS
My God, darling it fits.

He studies her hands closely--

MORRIS
You must have strong hands,
but -- they're so soft...like
oils in my bubble bath.
(a beat)
Damn ...

He leans close to her--

MORRIS
Darling...?

VANITY
Yeah...?

MORRIS
I'm not usually so forward,
but -- would you like to make
love to me? I can make it so
nice ...

She giggles freely, looks at him with
big eyes--

MORRIS
Do you know what is meant by
the words, huh, I hate to use
them, they're so harsh, so
American...I mean, and yet on
the other hand, they're
exciting words. The words...
(pause)
...chili sauce. Oh, Lord.
(a beat)



MORRIS
You know, I haven't made love
in so long, but with you I
know it would be just like
riding a bike. I'd remember
everything I've ever learned.
(a beat)
Baby, if the kid can't make
you come, nobody can.

Jerome checks off his pad--

JEROME
(whispers)
Morris..!

MORRIS
Yeah...?

JEROME
Seventeen.

Morris fixes Vanity with his half-
lidded, pouty-lip look--

MORRIS
Huh, what's it gonna to be
baby?

She's on the spot, thinks fast--

VANITY
PULL OVER THERE!

MORRIS
What?!

JEROME
What?!

VANITY
Over there -- that's where I
live.

Jerome SKIDS the car to a stop. They're
directly in front of a slick, hi-rise
apartment building--

MORRIS
Here...?

VANITY
Yes.

MORRIS
Uh, what one is it?



VANITY
That one, right there, see?
On the 14th floor.

MORRIS
It's nice, huh?

VANITY
Oh, it's great. Real pretty.
Big open rooms, balconies,
fireplace -- the works.

He smiles lovingly--

MORRIS
Jerome!

Jerome puts the Caddy into
gear, pulls off into the night-
-

VANITY
Hey, wait! C'mon!
(a beat)
Okay -- where are you taking
me?

MORRIS
Home.
(smiling)
You and me are a lot alike.- I
like that. So, I'd like to
help you out. I think I have
something you may be
interested, in.

VANITY
Oh yeah -- what?

Jerome hands Morris a cassette -- Morris
waves it in front of her nose--

MORRIS
A little song and dance. That
is, if you can sing and dance.

VANITY
(defensively)
Prince is goinq to help me.

Jerome and Moris suppress their laughter-
-

JEROME
Motherfucker needs a haircut.


MORRIS
Hee, hee, uh, excuse me. No
he won't. He's never done
anything in his whole life for
anybody but himself.

VANITY
Guys better than you have
promised me things before.

MORRIS
I know that's right, but--

Jerome hands him a card with an address
on it. Morris hands the card to her--

MORRIS
(con't)
-- not Morris Day.
(he smiles)

Jerome pulls up in front of her motel.
Vanity reads the card--

MORRIS
Come by any time.

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Reply #164 posted 04/30/15 10:42am

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Jerome on the Purple Rain tour

Miami 1985 last show of the Purple Rain Tour. Jerome and jellybean backstage with some of the crew

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Reply #165 posted 04/30/15 3:19pm

iZsaZsa

I didn't know that that was supposed to be Vanity/Apollonia. No wonder the Kid was jealous and always thought that she was with someone else.
What?
Reply #166 posted 05/01/15 6:55am

OldFriends4Sale

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iZsaZsa said:

I didn't know that that was supposed to be Vanity/Apollonia. No wonder the Kid was jealous and always thought that she was with someone else.

lol Yeah Vanity was a prize Sexy Sassy Sharp

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Reply #167 posted 05/01/15 6:58am

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#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

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I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
Reply #168 posted 05/01/15 6:59am

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(53) EXT. MOTEL/INT. CADDY -- TWILIGHT

She gets out of the car, stands on the
sidewalk. Morris pushes the window
button -- nothing happens--

MORRIS
Jerome!

Jerome leans over, taps the glass -- the
window glides down--

MORRIS
(to Vanity)
One more thing ...

Jerome snaps the glove compartment,
hands Morris a neatly folded camisole.
Morris presents it to her--

MORRIS
Here's a little something for
you. If you get cold when you
wear it, call me.

He snaps his fingers -- Jerome pulls the
Caddy away with a screech.



(54) EXT. VANITY'S MOTEL -- TWILIGHT

Vanity stands on the sidewalk a moment,
slightly bewildered and very amused.
She watches the Cadillac screech around
the bend. She turns, goes into the
motel.

PRINCE stands in the alleyway across the
street, his motorcycle parked nearby.
He watches as Vanity cuts inside.

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Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #169 posted 05/01/15 8:07am

iZsaZsa

Busted. He makes so much more sense now.
What?
Reply #170 posted 05/01/15 8:32am

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iZsaZsa said:

Busted. He makes so much more sense now.

Yeah the original script made so much more sense to certain questions like the Kids jealousy

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Reply #171 posted 05/01/15 8:49am

iZsaZsa

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



iZsaZsa said:


Busted. He makes so much more sense now.

 


Yeah the original script made so much more sense to certain questions like the Kids jealousy


 


 


And the lyric in When Doves Cry about him being like his Father (abusive, I knew that) and her being like his Mother (You're always running around, you're a Goddamned sinner!) - now I'm like, "Oh!"!
What?
Reply #172 posted 05/01/15 8:55am

OldFriends4Sale

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iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yeah the original script made so much more sense to certain questions like the Kids jealousy

And the lyric in When Doves Cry about him being like his Father (abusive, I knew that) and her being like his Mother (You're always running around, you're a Goddamned sinner!) - now I'm like, "Oh!"!

Yep and the 'Twin' scene in the basement with his mother

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Reply #173 posted 05/01/15 8:58am

iZsaZsa

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



iZsaZsa said:


OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 


Yeah the original script made so much more sense to certain questions like the Kids jealousy


 


 



And the lyric in When Doves Cry about him being like his Father (abusive, I knew that) and her being like his Mother (You're always running around, you're a Goddamned sinner!) - now I'm like, "Oh!"!

 


Yep and the 'Twin' scene in the basement with his mother


What's the 'Twin' scene?
What?
Reply #174 posted 05/01/15 9:04am

OldFriends4Sale

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iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yep and the 'Twin' scene in the basement with his mother

What's the 'Twin' scene?

usually called the 'Incest Scene'

after the Father tells her he would die 4 her

the Kid is left with the mother and she goes on how

they look alike and she pencils his mole like hers etc

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Reply #175 posted 05/01/15 9:11am

iZsaZsa

OldFriends4Sale said:

 



iZsaZsa said:


OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 


Yep and the 'Twin' scene in the basement with his mother



What's the 'Twin' scene?

 


usually called the 'Incest Scene'


after the Father tells her he would die 4 her


the Kid is left with the mother and she goes on how


they look alike and she pencils his mole like hers etc


eek
What?
Reply #176 posted 05/01/15 12:11pm

OldFriends4Sale

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iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

usually called the 'Incest Scene'

after the Father tells her he would die 4 her

the Kid is left with the mother and she goes on how

they look alike and she pencils his mole like hers etc

eek

Be warned lol

http://prince.org/msg/7/381728 Purple Rain movie project pt 1

http://prince.org/msg/7/384740 Purple Rain movie project pt 2

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Reply #177 posted 05/01/15 12:16pm

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It's always been my opinion, that the Barn scene's music would have been If the Kid Can't Make U Come

(62) INT. BARN -- DAY

ANOTHER ANGLE
RAIN patters srtongly against the barn.
A deep THUNDER rolls. She's on top of
him, moving deliciously, her body
glowing in the purple, dawn light.
Moist, purple water shadows streak and
course her skin as she moves slowly,
then deliberately against him. He
watches her avidly, his hands firmly on
her thighs, and thrusts into her again
and again...and again.

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Reply #178 posted 05/01/15 12:21pm

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If the kid can't make you come (7:33)
recorded 14th-22th April 1983 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments) with [Morris Day] (lead vocals), [Jesse Johnson] (guitar/drums) & Sharon Hughes (background vocals) • final mixing January 1984 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1984 on the Album
[Ice Cream Castle]

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Reply #179 posted 05/01/15 12:23pm

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If the kid can't make you come (7:33)

You like my crib, baby?
Well, come a little closer. Don't be shy.

Darlin', I want you so bad. I can almost taste the smell of your skin.
And honey, I'd be so sad, if you didn't break down and let me in.
You better let me in, baby. Don't you know ...

If the Kid can't make you come, nobody can.

Am I gettin' through, baby?

Sweetheart, I can be gentle as a lamb. If that's what gets you off.
I wanna get you off, baby.
And lover, straddle my brass and we'll dance in the land of the hard and soft.
I don't care, baby. Whatever gets you off?

If the kid can't make you come, nobody can.

Need I say more, baby?
Do you wanna straddle my brass?

If the kid can't make you come, nobody ...

That's a pretty blouse.
.... Thank you.
Take it off.
.... Is that better?
A little bit, I'd rather see it live in concert though.
.... Well, I'll tell you what, cutie. I'll let you take that off.
Oh yes!
This little hook went to Holland. This little hook went to France.
This little hook went to London. And this little hook went to...
.... Uhmm.
Oh Lord! Honey, don't you ever try and breastfeed no baby.
.... Why not?
Never mind. What time is it?
.... Titty time.
I know that's right.
.... Uhmm.

What's my name?
.... Morris.
No, come on baby, what's my real name?
.... Uuh, uh, uhh.
Talk to me, talk to me.
.... M ... Mo ... Mor ... Morris!
Yes! Oh baby, you're just too sexy.
.... Morris?
Yeah baby.
.... What's my name?
It's baby, ain't it?
.... Oh Morris, what's my ...
Ah ga ga ga ga!
.... Oh, Morris!
Too sexy!

I bet you never thought I'd be this good, did you?

Let me hear the pledge of allegiance, baby.
.... What do you mean?
You know, like you used to do in school.
.... You got to be kidding. I guess you're not.
Come on baby, Morris is listening.
.... OK... I pledge allegiance ... to the flag... of the United States... of America ...
.... and to the republic... for which it stands.
Oh Lord! You're just too sexy.
.... Uuh.
Ain't nobody bad like me?


© 1984 Tionna Music ASCAP.
Written by [Prince] (as Jamie Starr).
Taken from the album [Ice Cream Castle]

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Reply #180 posted 05/01/15 12:25pm

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If The Kid Can't Make You Come is the fifth track on The Time's third album Ice Cream Castle. If The Kid Can't Make You Come was written by Prince under the pseudonym Jamie Starr, but was credited on the album to Morris Day. It was co-produced by Morris Day and Prince under the name The Starr Company. Prince plays most instruments on the track.

Initial tracking took place on 16 April, 1983 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (two days after Chili Sauce (as Proposition #17), the day before Chocolate). While reflecting about the song's history on Facebook in 2014, Jesse Johnson stated:

"Morris who is a very, very gifted drummer went in sat down to play "Kid", but he kept speeding up Prince tried it, he kept speeding up too! So we got this brilliant idea, when looking back at it now it's funny the P and I thought this was a really good resolution. Morris out of the three of us was the only one that had a drink now and again, or let me put it clearer, Morris was the only one that knew how to drink. P & I were real amateurs, honestly ... Prince & I drank a glass of wine or my case a glass of WHINE! (ohh my head the room is spinning, I don't feel well, etc, etc) will I'm playing the DRUMS on "The Kid" and of course all guitars."

"The Kid" mentioned in the song's title is a deliberate reference to Prince's character "The Kid" in the Purple Rain movie, in which The Time appeared as The Kid's nemesis.

-PrinceVault

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