XxAxX said:

Pellwormer said:

I guess they had these cheap videos just sitting there, so they decided to release them. Too bad the album has already been forgotten by the majority populous, and ignored by those aware. The populous wants the Purple Rain Remaster Deluxe Edition, NOT this mediocre crap, from an already flopped mediocre (crappy) album. I thought WB wanted to make some $$$....oh well.

YowMaScroow said:

XxAxX said:

cool! i like this kind of video best. it's like a postcard, or a brief 'selfie'. also, this is one of my fav trax on plectrum electrum. such a departure from his other stuff yet equally beguiling, imo

Agreed. The video fits the song. PE is a great little album I'm just starting to get my head around. Its not for all tastes but neither was the Black Album. Most record labels are pimping artists with high quality, high cost videos, pushing the SAME sounds at the audience, all to make MONEY. Prince is unique and cares nothing about what people think.

You probably should have a helmet on next time you compare this album to the Black Album, because you'll get a lot of shit for daring to go against the "Princetelligencia" on the org (we really don't like them, but we tolerate them because of that whole free speech thing--yep, poked just because you're that sensitive), but in a way you'e spot on. Both albums are a back to basics attempt to bring an unadularated musical statement to the masses. And I seem to remember people saying the same things about Plectrum that they did The Rainbow Childen, and the latter has remained the favorite of many on the org to this day. To me, this is a case of buried treasure.

kewlschool said:

funksterr said:

My best guess here is that lawyers have been consulted on all sides, and WB and Prince are positioning themselves, for when Prince inevitably tries to weasal out of his contract for the back catalog:

"You can't say I didn't do my part. I bought ads for "This Could Be Us", performed live on a national network television show, particiated in a live QandA on Facebook, Tweeted, Livestreamed a release party and provided you with multiple music videos. Release my next album."

"Oh yeah, you can't say I didn't do my part. I bought billboards in major media markets, featured you prominently on our website, bought you coverage in several major magazines and I held my nose and released those second rate video clips. Bitch give me Purple Rain."

It's just my opinion, but one thing seems consistent since Prince reupped with WB: He is doing the ABSOLUTE minimum every step along the way. He ain't happy with the deal. Who here actually thinks Prince read the contract with WB, before he signed it? I don't. I bet he assumed they would pay for shit they are not contractually obligated to and he's giving them shit over it. Meanwhile they are putting the squeeze on him to get out of the way and push the remasters project.

^^^That's pure speculation.

He did only answer one question after a heavily hyped Q&A. He barely appeared at his own album release party. He spoke negatively of The Revolution and Purple Rain. He spoke negatively of WB. Quit Facebook. No PR release date. One live promotional performance for AOA. Tour, no tour. Broke up 3EG for the second time THIS YEAR, lol! I'm sure I am missing some known facts, but wait, which part of it was speculation again??

Militant said:

Militant said:

Any other kind of video wouldn't suit this song. Wrong.

What do you people want? Gee, I dunno, maybe something ORIGINAL.

Y'all want Prince to make the Thriller video for a 1m48 punk song? A ridiculous suggestion.

A live performance clip with some psychedelic effects is EXACTLY what this song needed. I agree, but not another SNL clip, this is just cheap & lazy.

ludwig said:

The video was produced by the same company that made the "Another Love" video.

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"Company" ?

Hardly an intern who just discovered After Effects.
This is what he came with after following "Tutorial - Lesson 1".

Ugh, honestly someone tell the man.
This is lame, lame, lame.

jasminejoey said:

Personally, I think Marz is a great track. And who the hell cares about music videos?? They are the primary reason for the downfall of popular music. Since the advent of the music video, it is more important to look good than to be good.

I totally agree. What I learned is Prince fans are spoiled. Can't you enjoy this great music that he has provided us with. TROLLING CRITICS

Great Track. The lyrics are relevent to what's going with inequalites with the races in the least expected genre, Punk. Civil rights song in straight rockin out. I swear he gives you gold you talk about it like its garabage. Who's making better music now. The amount of quality diverse product that he's put out just in the last 15 years is mind blowing

thedance said:

Just like the rest of the Plectrum album: the song Marz sucks.. so noicy. Awful.

Wow and Anotherlove are the only 2 good songs there,

a very bad album, really.

Sorry Malcontent, I love the Album, fresh different. What do You want. Purple rain 30 years ago and you're not the same as You were then like he's not same. I'm sure if you're on this website you probably already have a "remastered Purple Rain" CD that would be more comprhensive than anything WB would put out. If you want Purple Rain then listen to it...

dustoff said:

This song sounds like a Kit Kat advertisement to me.

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It's Classic Punk Rock, stong track

funksterr said:

kewlschool said:

^^^That's pure speculation.

He did only answer one question after a heavily hyped Q&A. He barely appeared at his own album release party. He spoke negatively of The Revolution and Purple Rain. He spoke negatively of WB. Quit Facebook. No PR release date. One live promotional performance for AOA. Tour, no tour. Broke up 3EG for the second time THIS YEAR, lol! I'm sure I am missing some known facts, but wait, which part of it was speculation again??

Did eye miss something? I've heard nothing about either break-up.

eclem5 said:

thedance said:

Just like the rest of the Plectrum album: the song Marz sucks.. so noicy. Awful.

Wow and Anotherlove are the only 2 good songs there,

a very bad album, really.

Sorry Malcontent, I love the Album, fresh different. What do You want. Purple rain 30 years ago and you're not the same as You were then like he's not same. I'm sure if you're on this website you probably already have a "remastered Purple Rain" CD that would be more comprhensive than anything WB would put out. If you want Purple Rain then listen to it...

Purple Rain is so 1984. This is 2015.

funksterr said:

kewlschool said:

^^^That's pure speculation.

He did only answer one question after a heavily hyped Q&A. He barely appeared at his own album release party. He spoke negatively of The Revolution and Purple Rain. He spoke negatively of WB. Quit Facebook. No PR release date. One live promotional performance for AOA. Tour, no tour. Broke up 3EG for the second time THIS YEAR, lol! I'm sure I am missing some known facts, but wait, which part of it was speculation again??

Plus remember the interview in Essence magazine where he talks about record company execs being unreachable because they are at the beach... How artists labor was putting the execs children thru college. Something to that effect, and this was AFTER he signed the new deal with WB. It was a sign of something in the water (already) not computing.

http://www.rollingstone.c...s-20140505

Arjuna said:

I couldn't even finish the video....

Weak track, weak video.....next!

MIRvmn said:

yes its a very weak track, sounds unfinished like its a demo.

What does PUNK music sound like?

TASKAE said:

YowMaScroow said:

XxAxX said: Agreed. The video fits the song. PE is a great little album I'm just starting to get my head around. Its not for all tastes but neither was the Black Album. Most record labels are pimping artists with high quality, high cost videos, pushing the SAME sounds at the audience, all to make MONEY. Prince is unique and cares nothing about what people think.

You probably should have a helmet on next time you compare this album to the Black Album, because you'll get a lot of shit for daring to go against the "Princetelligencia" on the org (we really don't like them, but we tolerate them because of that whole free speech thing--yep, poked just because you're that sensitive), but in a way you'e spot on. Both albums are a back to basics attempt to bring an unadularated musical statement to the masses. And I seem to remember people saying the same things about Plectrum that they did The Rainbow Childen, and the latter has remained the favorite of many on the org to this day. To me, this is a case of buried treasure.

I agree, Rainbow children was great. There are great tracks on every effort he puts put. I think that people want music that they want, ie if you like funk you hate is his rock and so on. You can't please these people. THEY LOVE TO HATE. I will say this they do speculate well

eclem5 said:

TASKAE said:

You probably should have a helmet on next time you compare this album to the Black Album, because you'll get a lot of shit for daring to go against the "Princetelligencia" on the org (we really don't like them, but we tolerate them because of that whole free speech thing--yep, poked just because you're that sensitive), but in a way you'e spot on. Both albums are a back to basics attempt to bring an unadularated musical statement to the masses. And I seem to remember people saying the same things about Plectrum that they did The Rainbow Childen, and the latter has remained the favorite of many on the org to this day. To me, this is a case of buried treasure.

I agree, Rainbow children was great. There are great tracks on every effort he puts put. I think that people want music that they want, ie if you like funk you hate is his rock and so on. You can't please these people. THEY LOVE TO HATE. I will say this they do speculate well

Not neccessarily true. I like all of Prince's genre exploration, however this album was not up to par. Marz is no a classic sounding punk track but it is an attempt at the punk sound which I can appreciate, but the lyrics could use some work.

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I think most Prince fans can appreciate all of Prince's sounds, that's why we love his music because of his ability to bend genres. There are many fans that want him to sound like PR, but I'd say the vast majority just want good music & he delivered for the most part IMO with AOA & few gems on PLE. But to praise the PLE whole album as a materpiece is a stretch, but if that's how you see it, then who am I to argue your taste in music, but we can always agree to disagree

TASKAE said:

Militant said:

Any other kind of video wouldn't suit this song. It's a short, punk style track.

What do you people want? An extravagant storyline with actors? For a song that's only 1m48 seconds long? Y'all want Prince to make the Thriller video for a 1m48 punk song?

A live performance clip with some psychedelic effects is EXACTLY what this song needed.

Me personally... I'd love the footage from the recording of the song. Ala PlectrumElectrum. Same for AnotherLove.

Cheap doesn't have to mean uninspired. These videos just seem like bare minimum attempts.

Perhaps part of the deal with WB is Prince either taking a hugely reduced advance or perhaps foregoing it completely. The cheap videos serving as a message to WB. They actually use a swirl transition...

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It's time for him to hang up the wig... retire it etc... a man at 56 and 7 months old ain't fooling anyone thinking that is a real hairstyle... give it up dude

TASKAE said:

funksterr said:

He did only answer one question after a heavily hyped Q&A. He barely appeared at his own album release party. He spoke negatively of The Revolution and Purple Rain. He spoke negatively of WB. Quit Facebook. No PR release date. One live promotional performance for AOA. Tour, no tour. Broke up 3EG for the second time THIS YEAR, lol! I'm sure I am missing some known facts, but wait, which part of it was speculation again??

Did eye miss something? I've heard nothing about either break-up.

Do you prefer hiatus? That is equally bad to breakup given that they had a new album in stores and were just a few weeks off the SNL performance. Bands don't go on hiatus that soon after an album release unless there is a problem.

funksterr said:

TASKAE said:

Did eye miss something? I've heard nothing about either break-up.

Do you prefer hiatus? That is equally bad to breakup given that they had a new album in stores and were just a few weeks off the SNL performance. Bands don't go on hiatus that soon after an album release unless there is a problem.

Still smells like speculation to me. Most bands don't release a bunch of (low quality) videos after a break up/hiatus either, so that doesn't really support that theory. Are you speculating break up/hiatus based on twitter/facebook shutdown? If so, also not a solid theory, only becaus the rest of 3rdeyegirl still have said sites still up. But to support your theory, in my opnion during the 'release party' during the quick interview with the 3rdeyegirl & the host they looked off, like they didn't support their own sound or something, I coudn't quite put my finger on it, but to me it seemed so AWKWARD! Maybe it was just all that horrible host, but the girls looked like deer in headlights & also afraid they might say the wrong thing.

.

Something is up, I'll give you that, just not sure what. It does sound as thought the WB deal went sour though, what that means is anyone's guess.

dannyd5050 said:

I couldn't even finish the video....

Weak track, weak video.....next!

Right... very bad song.

Next....

NuPwrSoul said:

funksterr said:

He did only answer one question after a heavily hyped Q&A. He barely appeared at his own album release party. He spoke negatively of The Revolution and Purple Rain. He spoke negatively of WB. Quit Facebook. No PR release date. One live promotional performance for AOA. Tour, no tour. Broke up 3EG for the second time THIS YEAR, lol! I'm sure I am missing some known facts, but wait, which part of it was speculation again??

Plus remember the interview in Essence magazine where he talks about record company execs being unreachable because they are at the beach... How artists labor was putting the execs children thru college. Something to that effect, and this was AFTER he signed the new deal with WB. It was a sign of something in the water (already) not computing.

http://www.rollingstone.c...s-20140505

Or, it was the sign of him being his typically petulant self - something didn't go his way on the deal, so he took his purple ball & ran. The execs did their job - people were astounded at the amount of advertisements they were seeing at the time the albums were released. It was Prince who didn't step up to the plate.

eclem5 said:

MIRvmn said:

yes its a very weak track, sounds unfinished like its a demo.

What does PUNK music sound like?

This :

https://www.youtube.com/w...bDqXr6LbXo

It took producer Chris Thomas a great deal of work to make the Sex Pistols sound like they did.

I took the most popular example in punk, since our friends eclem5 and TASKAE could use a little musicology lessons.
You guys are so moving, trying to save from the trash this poor "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia" reboot.

Ronnie Talk 2 Russia is not great because it was composed in 1981, it's great because :

- The man screams his lungs out, like armaggedon means something.

- Repetitive lyrics, which is one of the major requisites for being qualified as "punk".

- Electro-Rockabilly is a style that only Prince has attempted and successfully realized.
- The machine gun effects are top notch.

- Great solo.

Marz does not suck because it was composed in 2015, it sucks because :

- Vocally, it's a decal from Plastic Bertrand's Ça Plane Pour Moi.

- No one cares about punk in 2015.

- Instead of a guitar solo, we get a dull bridge.

- The lyrics are childish, and carry no real politic message of any kind.

- "Everybody in the world wants to be a star, Few got what it takes to get that far" : further proof that Prince is still mentally stuck in the eighties.

No, Prince, in 2015, no sane person wants to be a star anymore and add more garbage to the system.
And if you're talking to youngsters addicted to reality shows or fake competitions like American Idol,
well, they're not listening to you, so what's the point?

Now Ronnie clocks at 1:58. Marz clocks at 1:48.

There is a lot more happening on Ronnie, and not because od these extra 10 seconds.
The only "punk" thing Marz can reclaim is a Ramones song timing, that's all.


Now, on haterz :

I think you are mistaken a great deal. Like The Velvet Underground made everyone who bought their first album

to pull up a rock band of their own, similarly Prince has brought a lot of kids to build a home studio (a drum machine and a 4-track tape recorder).

It's fair to say that most of the people who criticize here know a thing or two about music, and that they have eclectic music tastes.
So when we bash the guy, it's rightfully so.

Now I can understand why you need so badly to project yourself into Prince, and think that he's some kind of God
who is totally in charge and aware of what he's doing : Prince has become the definitive "what if" musician,

worse than Big Star, Love, or Karen Dalton and such.

I can't think of no one who spilled as much milk as he did.
And sadly he seems keen on following this path until the end.

It's sad because of outside of commercial issues, AOA would have deserve to get to the 2015 audience,

because it is an album of schizophrenia and paranoia disguised as pop songs.

There is some substance to it.


Marz has the same dull, vulgar, artificial taste of the Kraft Foods® chocolate bar.
Looks and tastes like shit.

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