KCOOLMUZIQ said:

RODSERLING said:

Of course without a hit, you can't expect an album selling millions.

But the first weeks of sales should have been higher than 50 k AOA and 25 k PLEC. How explaining that D ANGELO, an obscure artist, much obscure than Prince, sold 115 k ex of BLACK MESSIAH in its first week in the US, without a hit, without a huge fanbase. That is more than AOA + PLEC three months of sales, in only one week.

Dude D'angelo has been missing for almost 15 YEARS! It's a no brainer, that he would have sold larger . His fans have been anxiously waiting for him to come back. , just up to a few short years ago released an album a year for over 35 years! His fans have never had to wait as long 4 new product. Even when didn't release a new album he was still throwing new cuts at us.

Not to mention the hundreds of bootlegz U people collect of him.

Stop downplaying 's legacy! D'angelo, although I'm a fan of his also, is NOWHERE near 's legacy. Even if he sold first week sales of over a million. He will never catch up with him.

It's already incredible that one guy, after releasing only 2 albums in his carreer and with being missing 15 years, and without promotion, has still a fanbase of 115.000 people in the USA. It's still more than Prince.

For the 100 th time, sales has nothing to do with quality : i'm not downplaying Prince at all, who is far more superior than D ANGELO. Why is it so hard to understand ? Why are people so upset when you're saying that such album was a flop ?

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

Fact is Prince lost many fans, to a dramatic point where he couldn't release a physical album anymore.

jaawwnn said:

RODSERLING said:

Of course without a hit, you can't expect an album selling millions.

But the first weeks of sales should have been higher than 50 k AOA and 25 k PLEC. How explaining that D ANGELO, an obscure artist, much obscure than Prince, sold 115 k ex of BLACK MESSIAH in its first week in the US, without a hit, without a huge fanbase. That is more than AOA + PLEC three months of sales, in only one week.

I wonder if Prince's back catalogue of core hits got a bump in sales/streams when he released the new albums? Be interesting to see if the figures were available. If Prince went away for 15 years then he'd probably sell a lot in week one, hit song or not. People are used to him having supposed 'comebacks' at this point. [Edited 12/30/14 9:52am]

Of course when an artist release an album, his catalogue sales is increasing.

But Prince's catalog sales of some albums (LOVESEXY, GRAFFITI BRIDGE) are already low.

His post-WB material is out of print, and not on I Tunes. Even BATMAN is a very bad catalog seller.

Only PR and TVBO entered the charts with the release of AOA. TVBO was certified 2*PLATINUM last month, but strangely not PR whic should be certified 14*P since 15 years, if not 15*P.

[Edited 12/31/14 1:09am]

linus4000 said:

This thread is about the R&B Charts..so here are the charts from 01/03/2015:

AOA is still going strong...and this is sales based;)

Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums Billboard

25 28 60 The Marshall Mathers LP 2 - Eminem - Web/Shady/Aftermath/Interscope | IGA
26 32 12 ART OFFICIAL AGE - Prince - NPG | Warner Bros.
27 30 18 Blacc Hollywood - Wiz Khalifa - Rostrum/Atlantic | AG

Congratulations, AOA sold 400 ex that week

[Edited 12/31/14 1:09am]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

RODSERLING said:

Well, let me think...Maybe because every thread I post are about charts and sales ?

Maybe because I'm answering to the posts adressed to me, in all honesty ?

And you, what is wrong with you ?

In my world, people that are nuts are the ones who insults other, say you are a racist because you tell them that AOA is a huge flop, talk only with a smiley, doesn't accept when they are wrong, have no sense of humour, etc.

If you don't know what to do here, if you are bored, there is numerous post based on a song "do you like it or not " as if it was interesting to know if somebody that you don't even know are liking a song or not.

There is also a new thread " learn me to know how to listen to Emancipation" or something like that, and several people are there to give their ideal tracklist from EMANCIPATION. As if the guy doesn't know how to listen an album, and is going to listen every tracklist that he is given to. How boring.

Tastes from people I don't know doesn't interesting me. If they like it, good for them. I prefer talking with unknown people about facts. If it's lame to you, then keep on talking on other threads about what song you like, about what are your top 10 favorite album besides the W1980/88 era, etc.

I don't like AOA especially, but I don't think that's the reason it flopped.

Stop calling A.O.A. a flop! It did not flop! It debuted @ number#1 & is still on the charts. It's only been out barely three months. The Wb & is obviously not finished with both projects.

AOA is a flop, and that is not depending on me ! Its stayed on the BB200 only seven weeks IIRC, with only one week on the top 20

Worst, AOA is not even on the top 250 bests elling album of 2014, according to SOUNDSCAN.

RNB charts is a sub charts, for the losers (like every sub charts) that can't even break the BB 200.

WB and Prince are done with AOA, PE and obviously PR, which was supposed to be the core of the new contract.

You can't seriously promote an album (or two !) that flopped on charts, many months after:-P . Not on the real world, only on the Twilight Zone.

[Edited 12/31/14 1:11am]

RODSERLING said:

RODSERLING said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Stop calling A.O.A. a flop! It did not flop! It debuted @ number#1 & is still on the charts. It's only been out barely three months. The Wb & is obviously not finished with both projects.

AOA is a flop, and that is not depending on me ! Its stayed on the BB200 only seven weeks IIRC, with only one week on the top 20

Worst, AOA is not even on the top 250 bests elling album of 2014, according to SOUNDSCAN.

RNB charts is a sub charts, for the losers (like every sub charts) that can't even break the BB 200.

WB and Prince are done with AOA, PE and obviously PR, which was supposed to be the core of the new contract.

You can't seriously promote an album (or two !) that flopped on charts, many months after:-P . Not on the real world, only on the Twilight Zone.

[Edited 12/31/14 1:11am]

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

AOA is a flop, and that is not depending on me ! Its stayed on the BB200 only seven weeks IIRC, with only one week on the top 20

Worst, AOA is not even on the top 250 bests elling album of 2014, according to SOUNDSCAN.

RNB charts is a sub charts, for the losers (like every sub charts) that can't even break the BB 200.

WB and Prince are done with AOA, PE and obviously PR, which was supposed to be the core of the new contract.

You can't seriously promote an album (or two !) that flopped on charts, many months after:-P . Not on the real world, only on the Twilight Zone.

[Edited 12/31/14 1:11am]

---- You are such a fucking moron. How is an RnB recording that charts high on the RnB chart a flop. It is an RnB CD- Asshat. How are subcharts loser charts since they track a specific genre of music? Many country and RnB singles do not make it high on the Pop chart because a portion of the rating is based on Pop Airplay. RnB and Country songs do not get significant airplay on Pop stations. You are taking your opinion of RnB music and making it law. Who the fuck died and gave you that right? You have an opinion and opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one and it really does not mean anything to anyone but you. Facts are facts

Your wasting your time. A lot of peeps on this site are very delusional . They want to fail @ everything. They get off on it. If U know the truth like me. Just keep it moving and move on to the next hater. It will be one on here to take his place. Especially in the Eye hate Rnb category.

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

AOA is a flop, and that is not depending on me ! Its stayed on the BB200 only seven weeks IIRC, with only one week on the top 20

Worst, AOA is not even on the top 250 bests elling album of 2014, according to SOUNDSCAN.

RNB charts is a sub charts, for the losers (like every sub charts) that can't even break the BB 200.

WB and Prince are done with AOA, PE and obviously PR, which was supposed to be the core of the new contract.

You can't seriously promote an album (or two !) that flopped on charts, many months after:-P . Not on the real world, only on the Twilight Zone.

[Edited 12/31/14 1:11am]

---- You are such a fucking moron. How is an RnB recording that charts high on the RnB chart a flop. It is an RnB CD- Asshat. How are subcharts loser charts since they track a specific genre of music? Many country and RnB singles do not make it high on the Pop chart because a portion of the rating is based on Pop Airplay. RnB and Country songs do not get significant airplay on Pop stations. You are taking your opinion of RnB music and making it law. Who the fuck died and gave you that right? You have an opinion and opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one and it really does not mean anything to anyone but you. Facts are facts

For the 100 th time,

You still don't get the difference between the rnrb album charts based on sales (where AOA is charting rather low) and the rnb single charts (where Prince does't have any entry from AOA), which is coupled with sales, streaming and, of course, airplay.

This is not a question of opinion. The examples you quoted are irrelevant when its concerning ALBUM SALES CHARTS.

When an album from such a well known artist fails to chart more than one week on the top 20, it's called a flop, that's not new.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

laurarichardson said:

---- You are such a fucking moron. How is an RnB recording that charts high on the RnB chart a flop. It is an RnB CD- Asshat. How are subcharts loser charts since they track a specific genre of music? Many country and RnB singles do not make it high on the Pop chart because a portion of the rating is based on Pop Airplay. RnB and Country songs do not get significant airplay on Pop stations. You are taking your opinion of RnB music and making it law. Who the fuck died and gave you that right? You have an opinion and opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one and it really does not mean anything to anyone but you. Facts are facts

Your wasting your time. A lot of peeps on this site are very delusional . They want to fail @ everything. They get off on it. If U know the truth like me. Just keep it moving and move on to the next hater. It will be one on here to take his place. Especially in the Eye hate Rnb category.

In only two posts, I was called :

- a fucking moron

- asshat

- peep

- "Eye hate Rnb category" (What ?!! My favourite Prince album is DIAMONDS)

- "Who the fuck died and gave you that right"

You are all crazy, insulting, and disrespectful.

I'm absolutely not a Prince hater. I'm in fact a Prince lover, and I absolutely love his music, performance, personnality, etc. if I suscribed here, it was because I loved Prince, not because I hated him, which is a silly idea. i know here some folks opêns a "what is your top 10" thread every day , but are you so out of your mind to think that way ? Get back to the real world, where people know what words mean.

Please tell me the relations between just seeing that AOA is a flop and being a Prince hater ? Complete nonsense.

[Edited 12/31/14 7:44am]

Peep is not a insult word. It's short for people...

Ok, for RODSERLING's sake let's just say that AOA is a flop, but to us a great record which happens to be a flop that went to Number 1 on the R&B chart, Happy? Great, let's move on from this broken record POS.

.

For the record Rod, I'm not bored of this thread, only of you, because you just keep saying the same thing over & over & over as if we didn't read your previous 50 posts which say virtually the same thing - repeating it won't convert us to your narrrow minded view of what is or isn't a flop. We get it, you think AOA is a flop with the current facts, well to some of us it's not, so you'll have to accept that whether you like it or not. We all see your argument, it didn't sell well - no sh!t! There's nothing that can be done about this, it is what it is, even if it's flop, it's a 'flop' that topped the charts!.

.

Also, I didn't call you any names (even though I wanted to) only that I'm bored with your repetitive posts, & you RODSERLING resorted to giving me the f u emoticon, while childish, pretty much shows your maturity level, also evident in your need to constantly remind us how you feel AOA is a flop. We hear you loud & clear.

.

Not even sure why I bother replying as this won't change your flow of negatively focused posts, in fact it will probably only fuel your resentment of other's input that is opposite of yours.

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

AOA is a flop, and that is not depending on me ! Its stayed on the BB200 only seven weeks IIRC, with only one week on the top 20

Worst, AOA is not even on the top 250 bests elling album of 2014, according to SOUNDSCAN.

RNB charts is a sub charts, for the losers (like every sub charts) that can't even break the BB 200.

WB and Prince are done with AOA, PE and obviously PR, which was supposed to be the core of the new contract.

You can't seriously promote an album (or two !) that flopped on charts, many months after:-P . Not on the real world, only on the Twilight Zone.

[Edited 12/31/14 1:11am]

---- You are such a fucking moron. How is an RnB recording that charts high on the RnB chart a flop. It is an RnB CD- Asshat. How are subcharts loser charts since they track a specific genre of music? Many country and RnB singles do not make it high on the Pop chart because a portion of the rating is based on Pop Airplay. RnB and Country songs do not get significant airplay on Pop stations. You are taking your opinion of RnB music and making it law. Who the fuck died and gave you that right? You have an opinion and opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one and it really does not mean anything to anyone but you. Facts are facts

hee hee

Rod, Some of us dig AOA!

[Edited 12/31/14 8:44am]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

laurarichardson said:

http://www.billboard.com/...d-b-albums

I know this will not warm the hearts of people on this board who hate this RnB recording but he is hanging on really well on the RnB chart with no radio airplay or promotion.

Take note this before you write this dude off.

It's a very strong R&b record.... Too bad he didn't seem to want to play these songs on snl. His treatment of Clouds was sad on that show. It's a fantastic song R&B be damned. Everyone I play it for is like... Uh why is this not played on the radio? The opening of Clouds is incredible

Darn right!

bonatoc said:

feeluupp said:

Total sales:

AOA- 200,000

Plectrum Electrum - 71,000

... Not a good look at all... Especially 4 a "comeback" album.

You must be over thirty.
The market has completely changed.
This is pretty high for a release that is less than 3 month old.

Consider Robbie Williams, who has been 2013's 4th biggest sell with 626,000 sales on an album.

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-artist-albums-of-2013-2708/

There's going to be the comet's tail. He's going to promote it over the year, and have peaks at 10,000~15,000.
If he has an average of 4000 a week (there's still circa 1.5 billion human beings with still some kind of buying capacity) during 2015 (another TV appearance, some live shows),

that makes 5,000 x 52 : +b260,000.

At 450,000~500,000, he's going to be in the top 10~20 of the best sales of 2015 (if we include 2014 1st quarter).

Let us not forget that usually, once you dicover Prince, you feel like buying at least another album. Add to that single songs downloads, whether recent or back-catalog.
No wonder he's referencing that stupid Meme, he needed an alibi to speak of Purple Rain.
He's as interested as Warner in selling some back-catalog.

Nice future projection.

Astasheiks said:

laurarichardson said:

---- You are such a fucking moron. How is an RnB recording that charts high on the RnB chart a flop. It is an RnB CD- Asshat. How are subcharts loser charts since they track a specific genre of music? Many country and RnB singles do not make it high on the Pop chart because a portion of the rating is based on Pop Airplay. RnB and Country songs do not get significant airplay on Pop stations. You are taking your opinion of RnB music and making it law. Who the fuck died and gave you that right? You have an opinion and opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one and it really does not mean anything to anyone but you. Facts are facts

hee hee

Rod, Some of us dig AOA!

[Edited 12/31/14 8:44am]

Astasheiks,

You still don't dig that rnb singles chart # rnb album charts.

MJ is the best selling rnb album act from the 2000/2014 era (Prince the #10, by the way !) and his records are not mostly bought buy afro american. This is the perfect counter-example of the "AOA is bought by afro amercian "theory.

By the way, I never said (for the 102th time) that AOA was a flop because of its quality. Why is it so hard to understand ?

nosajd said:

Ok, for RODSERLING's sake let's just say that AOA is a flop, but to us a great record which happens to be a flop that went to Number 1 on the R&B chart, Happy? Great, let's move on from this broken record POS.

.

For the record Rod, I'm not bored of this thread, only of you, because you just keep saying the same thing over & over & over as if we didn't read your previous 50 posts which say virtually the same thing - repeating it won't convert us to your narrrow minded view of what is or isn't a flop. We get it, you think AOA is a flop with the current facts, well to some of us it's not, so you'll have to accept that whether you like it or not. We all see your argument, it didn't sell well - no sh!t! There's nothing that can be done about this, it is what it is, even if it's flop, it's a 'flop' that topped the charts!.

.

Also, I didn't call you any names (even though I wanted to) only that I'm bored with your repetitive posts, & you RODSERLING resorted to giving me the f u emoticon, while childish, pretty much shows your maturity level, also evident in your need to constantly remind us how you feel AOA is a flop. We hear you loud & clear.

.

Not even sure why I bother replying as this won't change your flow of negatively focused posts, in fact it will probably only fuel your resentment of other's input that is opposite of yours.

My level of maturity ? Common, I don't talk only with smiley, i'm not insulting others, and I'm not dishonnest.

I'm only answering to others posts, it's hard to not answer in these conditions frankly. You say I'm posting 50 times the same thing, same could be said from others here, as I pointed out, from every topic.

Though, some still don't understand that I'm not downplaying Prince, nor AOA, but only telling facts, that will impact the future of Prince, his releases, and so his fans.

So I think it's important, and I'm not the kind of guy that doesn't anwer to others, even if they insult me, like you confessed you wanted to, showing your bad nature and your "level of maturity" to quote yourself.

[Edited 1/2/15 3:22am]

Astasheiks said:

bonatoc said:

You must be over thirty.
The market has completely changed.
This is pretty high for a release that is less than 3 month old.

Consider Robbie Williams, who has been 2013's 4th biggest sell with 626,000 sales on an album.

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-artist-albums-of-2013-2708/

There's going to be the comet's tail. He's going to promote it over the year, and have peaks at 10,000~15,000.
If he has an average of 4000 a week (there's still circa 1.5 billion human beings with still some kind of buying capacity) during 2015 (another TV appearance, some live shows),

that makes 5,000 x 52 : +b260,000.

At 450,000~500,000, he's going to be in the top 10~20 of the best sales of 2015 (if we include 2014 1st quarter).

Let us not forget that usually, once you dicover Prince, you feel like buying at least another album. Add to that single songs downloads, whether recent or back-catalog.
No wonder he's referencing that stupid Meme, he needed an alibi to speak of Purple Rain.
He's as interested as Warner in selling some back-catalog.

Nice future projection.

That's hilarious.

Robbie Williams was in fact the #35 best seller of 2013 (and surely not the #4 !).

AOA is currently selling something like 500 ex by week in the USA, it's completely unbelievable in the real world that AOA could sell 4000/5000 ex by week during 2015

This theory is completely silly, but worst is that some people here believe in it.

Prince.org is really the Twilight Zone !

It's difficult to reconcile the two statements "AoA went #1" and "AoA is a flop". It's not possible for both to be true. You can't have a #1 album which flopped. You can't flop by only reaching the top of the charts.

AoA hasn't sold well. It didn't spend long on the charts. Prince usually sells 300,000 - 500,000 fairly easily. So it's probably fair to say AoA has under-performed. I think it's untrue to say it was a flop. A flop is usually released and fails to perform at all/doesn't crack the top 10/top 20.

Noodled24 said:

It's difficult to reconcile the two statements "AoA went #1" and "AoA is a flop". It's not possible for both to be true. You can't have a #1 album which flopped. You can't flop by only reaching the top of the charts.

AoA hasn't sold well. It didn't spend long on the charts. Prince usually sells 300,000 - 500,000 fairly easily. So it's probably fair to say AoA has under-performed. I think it's untrue to say it was a flop. A flop is usually released and fails to perform at all/doesn't crack the top 10/top 20.

Yes, maybe we can say it underperformed...But as many have said before he was in many countries of the world in the Top Ten with AOA and even sometimes with PE...

Here are this weeks Billboard R&B Charts: (10/01/2015):

Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

1 1 2 The Pinkprint - Nicki Minaj - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
2 2 3 2014 Forest Hills Drive - J. Cole - Roc Nation | Columbia
3 New 1 The Young OG Project - Fabolous - Desert Storm | Def Jam
4 3 2 Black Messiah - D'Angelo And The Vanguard - RCA
5 4 3 Anybody Wanna Buy A Heart? - K. Michelle - Atlantic | AG
6 6 4 The London Sessions - Mary J. Blige - Capitol
7 7 5 ShadyXV - Various Artists - Shady/Interscope | IGA
8 8 55 Beyonce - Beyonce - Parkwood | Columbia
9 12 15 X - Chris Brown - RCA
10 13 36 The New Classic - Iggy Azalea - Turn First/Hustle Gang | Def Jam
11 11 5 Hood Billionaire - Rick Ross - Maybach/Slip-N-Slide | Def Jam
12 28 10 Under Pressure - Logic - Visionary | Def Jam
13 31 27 These Things Happen - G-Eazy - G-Eazy/RVG | BPG
14 27 19 Blacc Hollywood - Wiz Khalifa - Rostrum/Atlantic | AG
15 21 26 Trigga - Trey Songz - Songbook/Atlantic | AG
16 14 7 Live: Her Greatest Performances - Whitney Houston - Arista/RCA | Legacy
17 5 2 Luca Brasi 2: A Gangsta Grillz Special Edition - Kevin Gates - Bread Winners' Association/Gangsta Grillz/Atlantic | AG
18 15 18 Promise To Love: Album IV - Kem - Kemistry/Motown | Capitol
19 30 55 Because The Internet - Childish Gambino - Glassnote
20 9 3 Game Changer - Johnny Gill - J Skillz
21 16 10 Paperwork - T.I. - Grand Hustle | Columbia
22 25 61 The Marshall Mathers LP 2 - Eminem - Web/Shady/Aftermath/Interscope | IGA
23 19 69 Love In The Future - John Legend - G.O.O.D. | Columbia
24 20 43 G I R L - Pharrell Williams - i am other | Columbia
25 22 5 Reclassified - Iggy Azalea - Turn First/Hustle Gang | Def Jam
26 26 13 ART OFFICIAL AGE - Prince - NPG | Warner Bros.
27 18 10 Home For The Holidays - Anthony Hamilton - Mister's Music | RCA
28 29 10 Holiday - Earth, Wind & Fire - Legacy
29 24 10 Sings The Great Diva Classics - Aretha Franklin - RCA
30 36 10 Run The Jewels 2 - Run The Jewels - Productomart | Mass Appeal

Noodled24 said:

It's difficult to reconcile the two statements "AoA went #1" and "AoA is a flop". It's not possible for both to be true. You can't have a #1 album which flopped. You can't flop by only reaching the top of the charts.

AoA hasn't sold well. It didn't spend long on the charts. Prince usually sells 300,000 - 500,000 fairly easily. So it's probably fair to say AoA has under-performed. I think it's untrue to say it was a flop. A flop is usually released and fails to perform at all/doesn't crack the top 10/top 20.

AOA never went #1, he reached only #5, and the second week he was out of the top 20.

It's not a good performance with such low numbers to be in the top 5, when your name is Prince. Even D ANGELO sold more in the first week than AOA in 3 months.

linus4000 said:

Noodled24 said:

It's difficult to reconcile the two statements "AoA went #1" and "AoA is a flop". It's not possible for both to be true. You can't have a #1 album which flopped. You can't flop by only reaching the top of the charts.

AoA hasn't sold well. It didn't spend long on the charts. Prince usually sells 300,000 - 500,000 fairly easily. So it's probably fair to say AoA has under-performed. I think it's untrue to say it was a flop. A flop is usually released and fails to perform at all/doesn't crack the top 10/top 20.

Yes, maybe we can say it underperformed...But as many have said before he was in many countries of the world in the Top Ten with AOA and even sometimes with PE...

Here are this weeks Billboard R&B Charts: (10/01/2015):

Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums

26 26 13 ART OFFICIAL AGE - Prince - NPG | Warner Bros.
27 18 10 Home For The Holidays - Anthony Hamilton - Mister's Music | RCA
28 29 10 Holiday - Earth, Wind & Fire - Legacy
29 24 10 Sings The Great Diva Classics - Aretha Franklin - RCA
30 36 10 Run The Jewels 2 - Run The Jewels - Productomart | Mass Appeal

But what the point of being in such a top, when you know that out of the top 10 they're not even on the REAL top 200 ?

This week, Prince is not even charting on the top catalog album charts, but on the rnb top catalog...Prince is becoming more and more underground, it's very sad.

RODSERLING said:

Noodled24 said:

It's difficult to reconcile the two statements "AoA went #1" and "AoA is a flop". It's not possible for both to be true. You can't have a #1 album which flopped. You can't flop by only reaching the top of the charts.

AoA hasn't sold well. It didn't spend long on the charts. Prince usually sells 300,000 - 500,000 fairly easily. So it's probably fair to say AoA has under-performed. I think it's untrue to say it was a flop. A flop is usually released and fails to perform at all/doesn't crack the top 10/top 20.

AOA never went #1, he reached only #5, and the second week he was out of the top 20.

It's not a good performance with such low numbers to be in the top 5, when your name is Prince. Even D ANGELO sold more in the first week than AOA in 3 months.

This thread is about the RnB chart? AoA went #1 on the RnB chart.

Even so, if you want to look at the real chart. It still hit the top 10 with little to no promotion. I'm not saying it's performed well. Robin Thickes last album was a flop selling 500 copies in it's first week.

Not sure what you mean by "when your name is Prince". Very few artists are able to coast by purely on their name these days. The artists that do generally fall easily into a genre.

RODSERLING said:

laurarichardson said:

---- You are such a fucking moron. How is an RnB recording that charts high on the RnB chart a flop. It is an RnB CD- Asshat. How are subcharts loser charts since they track a specific genre of music? Many country and RnB singles do not make it high on the Pop chart because a portion of the rating is based on Pop Airplay. RnB and Country songs do not get significant airplay on Pop stations. You are taking your opinion of RnB music and making it law. Who the fuck died and gave you that right? You have an opinion and opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one and it really does not mean anything to anyone but you. Facts are facts

For the 100 th time,

You still don't get the difference between the rnrb album charts based on sales (where AOA is charting rather low) and the rnb single charts (where Prince does't have any entry from AOA), which is coupled with sales, streaming and, of course, airplay.

This is not a question of opinion. The examples you quoted are irrelevant when its concerning ALBUM SALES CHARTS.

When an album from such a well known artist fails to chart more than one week on the top 20, it's called a flop, that's not new.

[Edited 1/6/15 18:10pm]

[Edited 1/6/15 18:14pm]

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

For the 100 th time,

You still don't get the difference between the rnrb album charts based on sales (where AOA is charting rather low) and the rnb single charts (where Prince does't have any entry from AOA), which is coupled with sales, streaming and, of course, airplay.

This is not a question of opinion. The examples you quoted are irrelevant when its concerning ALBUM SALES CHARTS.

When an album from such a well known artist fails to chart more than one week on the top 20, it's called a flop, that's not new.

---- "rnrb album charts based on sales (where AOA is charting rather low" It is not charting low on the RnB album chart is up from 15 to 12 this week. I never said he was doing anything on the singles chart. You cannot force the radio to play the singles and if people do not hear the signles they will not buy. We all n

[Edited 1/6/15 18:10pm]

[Edited 1/6/15 18:14pm]

We can talk about it forever.

Fact is, AOA was Top 5 in the US Billboard charts and #1 on Billboards R&B/ Hip Hop Album chart, where it is still in the top 30, which is sales based...

So no flop, but a minor success...

Maybe not what P and Warner hoped, but good critics and Top Ten all around the world is definately not a flop:)...

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

For the 100 th time,

You still don't get the difference between the rnrb album charts based on sales (where AOA is charting rather low) and the rnb single charts (where Prince does't have any entry from AOA), which is coupled with sales, streaming and, of course, airplay.

This is not a question of opinion. The examples you quoted are irrelevant when its concerning ALBUM SALES CHARTS.

When an album from such a well known artist fails to chart more than one week on the top 20, it's called a flop, that's not new.

---- "rnrb album charts based on sales (where AOA is charting rather low" It is not charting low on the RnB album chart is up from 15 to 12 this week. I never said he was doing anything on the singles chart. You cannot force the radio to play the singles and if people do not hear the signles they will not buy. We all n

[Edited 1/6/15 18:10pm]

[Edited 1/6/15 18:14pm]

If AOA made a larger success on the first weeks, even without promotion, rnb radio would have played him, like with PLANET EARTH or LOTUS FLOWER. It's the first time ever that Prince doesn't chart anywhere.

The only good thing with AOA charting on rnb charts, is that it's still selling some amount (a very small amount) in the USA. But it's no proof at all that it's bought by afro american people.

linus4000 said:

laurarichardson said:

---- "rnrb album charts based on sales (where AOA is charting rather low" It is not charting low on the RnB album chart is up from 15 to 12 this week. I never said he was doing anything on the singles chart. You cannot force the radio to play the singles and if people do not hear the signles they will not buy. We all n

[Edited 1/6/15 18:10pm]

[Edited 1/6/15 18:14pm]

We can talk about it forever.

Fact is, AOA was Top 5 in the US Billboard charts and #1 on Billboards R&B/ Hip Hop Album chart, where it is still in the top 30, which is sales based...

So no flop, but a minor success...

Maybe not what P and Warner hoped, but good critics and Top Ten all around the world is definately not a flop:)...

If you add every sub charts offered by the Billboard, you have around 500 albums charting. Surely even more ! It's laughable. Even on the bottom of the real BB 200, sales are very low.

AOA is not even on the 300 best selling albums of 2014. It didn't reached the 100 k mark. It's a flop, mainly because he lost many fans on the way.

In 2 weeks, without even an rnb hit, D ANgelo sold 155.000 albums in the US only. And Prince is much more famous than a guy who only released 2 albums 15 years ago. I'm not enjoying that situation at all.