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Reply #30 posted 09/24/13 7:07pm

Poplife88

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IstenSzek said:

01. Interactive

02. Days of Wild

03. Endorphinmachine

04. Shhh

05. Acknowledge Me

06. The Most Beautiful Girl

07. Dolphin

08. 319

09. Ripopgodazippa

10. Now

11. Billy Jack Bitch

12. I Hate U

13. Gold

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calhoun sq belongs on Chaos and Disorder

if it has to go somewhere smile it just fits well

with the sound and vibe of that album

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01. Chaos & Disorder

02. I Like It There

03. Dinner With Delores

04. The Same December

05. Calhoun Sq

06. Zanalee

07. Into The Light

08. I Will

09. Da Bang

10. Empty Room

11. Had U

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guitar

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[Edited 9/24/13 16:28pm]

cool These are perfection cool

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Reply #31 posted 09/24/13 7:34pm

thanks2joniand
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Tremolina said:[quote]



thanks2joniandu said:


Agreed. We March and Now ruin it for me.


Agreed that CS and DOW should have been included?

[/quote



Yes. smile
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Reply #32 posted 09/24/13 9:40pm

BobGeorge909

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I say leve it the way it was seeing as how we got all those trax anyways.
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Reply #33 posted 09/24/13 9:40pm

funkomatic

Tremolina said:



funkomatic said:


Both songs were not thought through completely... [Edited 9/24/13 15:50pm]



CS and DOW?
If so, how so


You can clearly hear that the studio version of Calhoun Square is missing the finishing touches. DOW was arranged to death in order to find a definitive version which does the song actually justice.
[Edited 9/24/13 21:41pm]
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Reply #34 posted 09/24/13 10:10pm

callimnate

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thedoorkeeper said:

I always felt Calhoun Square fit into Chaos & Disorder. Has that stripped down sound.

yeahthat

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Reply #35 posted 09/25/13 1:19am

TheEnglishGent

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I love both P Control and Now. As much as I live the live versions of Days of Wild, if the studio version was meant to be on The Gold Experience it would have been very much out of place.

RIP sad
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Reply #36 posted 09/25/13 2:31am

sovembol

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Reply #37 posted 09/25/13 2:34am

SoulAlive

I guess I'm one of the few fans who actually prefers the studio version of "Days Of Wild" lol I see nothing wrong with it,at all.I like the stipped-down,hip hop feel of it.I think it's the most convincing rap song that Prince has ever done.

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Reply #38 posted 09/25/13 2:40am

SoulAlive

Days Of Wild instead of P Control

thumbs up! I also think the perfect opening track would be "Hide The Bone".Imagine if the album began with that hardcore funk masterpiece! And then he follows it up with "Days Of Wild"!! Release it in the summer of '94 and it would have created quite a ruckus!

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Reply #39 posted 09/25/13 8:36am

BobGeorge909

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If the difinitive sequencing for the gold exoerience is absolutely necessary for you...get the most out of the record...




...u better call saul....he knows.
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Reply #40 posted 09/26/13 11:13am

luvsexy4all

NOW is where it belongs...DAYS OF WILD shouldve replaced WE MARCH

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Reply #41 posted 09/26/13 6:08pm

BobGeorge909

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luvsexy4all said:

NOW is where it belongs...DAYS OF WILD shouldve replaced WE MARCH


ONLY if its the 7-8 minute fersion from "the dawn"
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Reply #42 posted 09/27/13 3:23am

LukeJamesGirl

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Crystal Ball is good enough. For me as is. But hey. You can always. Make your own mix. Which I'm known for doing. Should really look into. A DJ career. I just might wink.
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Reply #43 posted 09/27/13 5:09am

Marco81

Calhoun Square belongs to somewhere else:

1) come (outtake version)

2) interactive

3) endorphinmachine

4) space

5) what's my name

6) race

7) calhoun square

8) papa

9) peach

10) dark

11) dolphin

12) strays of the world / come (album version)

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Reply #44 posted 09/27/13 7:28pm

MonsterZeroTwo

Geez at all the hate for Pussy Control! I actually really like that song. Now, on the other hand, not so much. I love The Gold Experience. By the numbers, it is my favorite Prince album. That being said, I dont think its perfect. If you switch out the songs I dont like for ones I do which I believe were written around the same time and even considered for the album, that would take this album into the stratosphere. I know Im probably gonna get a lot of shit for this but:

Switch:
Shhh
Now
Eye Hate U

For any of these:
Acknowledge Me
Ripopgodazippa
Hide The Bone
Interactive
The Ride

And wow!

(Not that I would necessarily want to change it though. Its still my favorite Prince album and just suggestive edit.)
[Edited 10/13/13 21:12pm]
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Reply #45 posted 09/29/13 6:22am

SoulAlive

MonsterZeroTwo said:

Geez at all the hate for Pussy Control! I actually really like that song.

I just think it sounds silly lol the chorus is really annoying...

Aaaaoooooowwwwwww.....pussy control....ohhhwwwwww

falloff and the lyrics in the verses are terrible

"Days Of Wild" is a much more convincing hip-hop track

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Reply #46 posted 09/29/13 2:16pm

Tremolina

SoulAlive said:

MonsterZeroTwo said:

Geez at all the hate for Pussy Control! I actually really like that song.

I just think it sounds silly lol the chorus is really annoying...

Aaaaoooooowwwwwww.....pussy control....ohhhwwwwww

falloff and the lyrics in the verses are terrible

"Days Of Wild" is a much more convincing hip-hop track



Totally agree, and Calhoun Square is like a thousand times better than "Now".
It would have really made the album unforgetable.

Because I say so. smile

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Reply #47 posted 09/29/13 2:25pm

Tremolina

controversy99 said:

Why are we cutting tracks?!?! Calhoun Square and Days of Wild can both be added to the album, and it'll still easily fits within the 80 minutes CD time limit.

Now is the bomb!! Cut it and my opinion of the album drops.

For DoW, it all depends on what version would be included. The shorter live versions from that time (with the cursing included) blow the studio versions out of the water. I'd really only want DoW on the album if P had recorded a live version before the album was released and put that live version on there. The studio versions don't have much punch.


I disagree. Less is better. 10-11 tracks max, except when it's a double album.

All his 90's album were filled with too much filler.

There is also too much stuff on TGE that remains mediocre at best.

Like PC, WM, Now, BJB.


I like it like this:

  1. Endorphinmachine

  2. Days of wild

  3. Shh

  4. The most beautiful girl in the world

  5. Dolphin

  6. Calhoun square

  7. 319

  8. Shy

  9. I hate U

  10. Gold

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Reply #48 posted 09/29/13 2:32pm

Tremolina

Singles should have been:


  1. Endorphinmachine

  2. The most beautiful girl in the world
  3. Dolphin

    4. Calhoun square

Accompanied by the follwing"b-sides":

  1. Pussy Control

  2. Interactive

  3. Acknowledge me

  4. Now

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Reply #49 posted 09/30/13 12:55am

IstenSzek

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good stuff there, tremolina cool

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #50 posted 09/30/13 8:52am

MattyJam

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Tremolina said:

controversy99 said:

Why are we cutting tracks?!?! Calhoun Square and Days of Wild can both be added to the album, and it'll still easily fits within the 80 minutes CD time limit.

Now is the bomb!! Cut it and my opinion of the album drops.

For DoW, it all depends on what version would be included. The shorter live versions from that time (with the cursing included) blow the studio versions out of the water. I'd really only want DoW on the album if P had recorded a live version before the album was released and put that live version on there. The studio versions don't have much punch.


I disagree. Less is better. 10-11 tracks max, except when it's a double album.

All his 90's album were filled with too much filler.

There is also too much stuff on TGE that remains mediocre at best.

Like PC, WM, Now, BJB.


I like it like this:

  1. Endorphinmachine

  2. Days of wild

  3. Shh

  4. The most beautiful girl in the world

  5. Dolphin

  6. Calhoun square

  7. 319

  8. Shy

  9. I hate U

  10. Gold

Billy Jack Bitch is one of the best songs on TGE.

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Reply #51 posted 09/30/13 9:50am

MonsterZeroTwo

SoulAlive said:



MonsterZeroTwo said:


Geez at all the hate for Pussy Control! I actually really like that song.


I just think it sounds silly lol the chorus is really annoying...



Aaaaooooowwwww.....pussy control....ohhhwwwww



falloff and the lyrics in the verses are terrible



"Days Of Wild" is a much more convincing hip-hop track



Prince was never a convincing rapper anyways but the sheer awfulness of the lyrics and the delivery make it listenable for me. Its not a serious song nor do I take it that way.
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Reply #52 posted 09/30/13 4:50pm

controversy99

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MattyJam said:



Tremolina said:




controversy99 said:


Why are we cutting tracks?!?! Calhoun Square and Days of Wild can both be added to the album, and it'll still easily fits within the 80 minutes CD time limit.



Now is the bomb!! Cut it and my opinion of the album drops.



For DoW, it all depends on what version would be included. The shorter live versions from that time (with the cursing included) blow the studio versions out of the water. I'd really only want DoW on the album if P had recorded a live version before the album was released and put that live version on there. The studio versions don't have much punch.





I disagree. Less is better. 10-11 tracks max, except when it's a double album.


All his 90's album were filled with too much filler.


There is also too much stuff on TGE that remains mediocre at best.


Like PC, WM, Now, BJB.


I like it like this:



  1. Endorphinmachine




  2. Days of wild




  3. Shh




  4. The most beautiful girl in the world




  5. Dolphin




  6. Calhoun square




  7. 319




  8. Shy




  9. I hate U




  10. Gold






Billy Jack Bitch is one of the best songs on TGE.


Thank you!!!

How can you cut BJB?!?! This is a clear reason that less isn't always more. Consider 1999, my favorite album. If there was room, it'd be great to have Purple Music and Moonbeam Levels on there. Of course, there isn't room, so I wouldn't want it changed at all.

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[Edited 9/30/13 16:52pm]
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Reply #53 posted 10/01/13 1:33pm

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I think "Days of Wild" shouldve been on the "Gold Experience". "Calhoun Square" even though its a great track, it really doesn't flow with the album and wouldve been better suited either as a b-side or for "Chaos".If I had the power to influence that tracklist the 2 main songs that I wouldve included would be "Acknowledge Me" and "Love Sign" of off "1800NewFunk" by taking the song off of that comp and replacing it with "Snow Man" maybe. I would also place "Endorphinemachine"(in its original form) on "Come" where I think it fits better. "Love Sign" is a great song and I feel it wouldve worked better on the "Gold Exp." in its original form. I also feel that "Acknowledge Me" would of done really good as a single. I also wouldv'e regulated "319" and "We March" as some strong b-sides. Honestly "Rock and Roll is Alive" is a fun track but its not so much up to par with the other tracks that I've mentioned. Also I think he just should have released this album before "Come". That album had so much potential, but I think the politics , releasing the "Come" first and second guessing of the tracklist ultimately hurt the albium. But I stand that "Aknowledge Me","Days of Wild" and "Love Sign" wouldve made it a stronger album. What do you think ?

Big Chick

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Reply #54 posted 10/02/13 1:28pm

SoulAlive

BigChick said:

I think he just should have released this album before "Come". That album had so much potential, but I think the politics , releasing the "Come" first and second guessing of the tracklist ultimately hurt the albium.

This is an unpopular opinion,but here goes lol

Prince should have shelved Come...kept it in the vaults boxed

Instead,in the summer of 1994,he should have released The Gold Experience,with the original tracklist.It's a superior album in every way and it would have made more of an impact in 1994.People would have been going nuts over songs like "Days Of Wild" and "Acknowledge Me".And even "Love Sign" could have been included.Coming off a huge hit with "TMBGITW",there is no way that this album could have failed.

Come didn't make much of a splash.The mainstream ignored it.Prince would have been riding high in the summer/fall of 1994,if TGE had been out around that time.Most of these songs were still "new" to fans.When the album was finally released a year later (in late 1995),the only song most of us hadn't already heard was "Shy".

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Reply #55 posted 10/04/13 2:02pm

thanks2joniand
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thanks2joniandu said:

Tremolina said:

thanks2joniandu said:

Agreed. We March and Now ruin it for me.

Agreed that CS and DOW should have been included?

[/quote Yes. smile

Actually, I take that back. Interactive and Days of Wild should have been on Gold, but not Calhoun Square.
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Reply #56 posted 10/04/13 2:10pm

thanks2joniand
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Poplife88 said:

IstenSzek said:

01. Interactive

02. Days of Wild

03. Endorphinmachine

04. Shhh

05. Acknowledge Me

06. The Most Beautiful Girl

07. Dolphin

08. 319

09. Ripopgodazippa

10. Now

11. Billy Jack Bitch

12. I Hate U

13. Gold

.

calhoun sq belongs on Chaos and Disorder

if it has to go somewhere smile it just fits well

with the sound and vibe of that album

.

01. Chaos & Disorder

02. I Like It There

03. Dinner With Delores

04. The Same December

05. Calhoun Sq

06. Zanalee

07. Into The Light

08. I Will

09. Da Bang

10. Empty Room

11. Had U

.

guitar

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[Edited 9/24/13 16:28pm]

cool These are perfection cool

I LOVE this version of Chaos and Disorder!! Removing the total clunkers (I Rock...and Right the Wrong) and adding tracks 5, 9 and 10 wink

I don't think Acknowledge Me works on Gold, though. I would also try to add P.Control somewhere in your version.

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Reply #57 posted 10/05/13 3:51am

SoulAlive

If anything,this thread demonstrates that Prince had no shortage of great songs during this period (1993/94).That was a very productive time for him.

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Reply #58 posted 10/05/13 4:01am

funkomatic

Great songs? Where? lol
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Reply #59 posted 10/13/13 9:09pm

MonsterZeroTwo

@BigChick @SoulAlive re: summer of '94. Wow, I had no idea Prince second guessed the track list so much but it makes sense with how much of a perfectionist he is. Still, I agree The Gold Experience is far superior an album to Come. Its interesting to read that Prince wouldve probably left a more lasting impression had he shelved Come and gone with TGE instead initially. I was far too young to know about how much cultural impact it had at the time, but wasnt TMBGITW one of his biggest hits to date? If anything, Come or no Come, I think people were just freaked out about the name change alone. I think that spoke volumes more than any of his music at the time, but then again, its all my speculation; I wasnt around. '94-'96 is my favorite period in Prince history though.
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