CandaceS said:

CandaceS said:

robertlove said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

When Certain Fans Don't Like The Truth. They Attack! When In Reality. The Truth Is Gonna Help The Artist Grow & Sell More................

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Sweetie, he is selling nothing these days, I don't think most poeple know there is even a website with new songs.

"LotusFlow3r" sold half a million copies through one retailer. 20T3N(Shipped a million & a half copies).....Both independent releases.....The new songs out are not on an album & r experimental "MasterPieces"....

Dalia11 said:

Prince's Music/videos and all things related belong to him. People have to create their own music, videos, etc. Not use Prince's music/videos for their 1 minute of FAME! " />

They do NOT belong to him.

Only for life plus 70 or so or whatever the current (USA) copyright law is.

violectrica said:

CharlieRise said:

I don't think he's crazy or mentally ill, just extremely susceptive to what other people, he views as knowledgable, say.

Some industry asshole probably told him about how piracy was stealing and how every instance was lost profit and, instead of questioning it like a normal person, he accepted it. Now he has a team of laywers he probably doesn't even talk to doing these ridiculous takedowns that are PR poison.

He asks a Rolling Stone interviewer how to get his new music out and when he gets the answer of "you're Prince, just put it online", all of the sudden 20pr1nc3 and 3rd Eye Girl pop up out of nowhere.

Larry Graham talks to him for two years and gets him to convert over to being a Jehovah's Witness. No cursing. Completely changed his persona. And Prince unironically used a fucking Matrix reference when referring to why he chose to do it.

He travels to Islamic countries, gets the VIP treatment and says later "It's fun being in Islamic countries, to know there's only one religion. There's order. You wear a burqa. There's no choice. People are happy with that." when that clearly isn't the case to anybody who follows the news in those areas.

Who knows how many decisions of his were influenced by various people whispering in his ear.

"Why doesn't he listen to his fans?" A) probably everything is filtered through various assistants before reaching him and B) there's no definitive voice coming from everybody regarding the future. Everybody has thoughts on what he should do with the vault or remastering old work but nobody has any real comments on where he should go forward (which is kind of ridiculous to expect from fans in the first place)

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Sooo what you are saying is...its not mental illness, he is gripped by a cultic control?

That is sad I always though he was an "I'm in charge" kinda person. When did that die?

I wouldn't say that. It's more like he's easily influenced by other people he respects or views as an equal.

That would explain why he's so back and forth on everything.

musicology54 said:

Aaaaaaand we are back in the bi-polar state.

so very true

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laurarichardson said:

CandaceS said:

Proof?

The prices for these recent concerts are much higher than his previous tour. It was mentioned in the media that he gets a million a show and that he got a mill from Samsung for the Edsel test. Do the math on the 250 tickrts

Link? I'm not searching for it.

Multiplying 250 x a few hundred tickets does not bring in anywhere near $1 million. Nor will the bar in the club sell enough drinks to make up the difference, not to mention leave a profit margin for the promoter. And if the tickets don't all sell (most of the cities on this tour still have tickets available), there's another shortfall.

Let’s just hope the estate of Whitney Houston doesn’t get in on the DMCA action. I wouldn’t want to lose this classic:

Yes I know it is a joke:

But Weird: the song was clearly "I Will Always Love You" written by Dolly Parton. Even if it was sang as Whitney did... Still not near enough of the song is done to even begin to be a violation.

If that was the kind of thing prince has his purple panties in a knot over he will just end up looking stupid....er.

CandaceS said:

laurarichardson said:

CandaceS said: The prices for these recent concerts are much higher than his previous tour. It was mentioned in the media that he gets a million a show and that he got a mill from Samsung for the Edsel test. Do the math on the 250 tickrts

Link? I'm not searching for it.

Multiplying 250 x a few hundred tickets does not bring in anywhere near $1 million. Nor will the bar in the club sell enough drinks to make up the difference, not to mention leave a profit margin for the promoter. And if the tickets don't all sell (most of the cities on this tour still have tickets available), there's another shortfall.

Prince does inded have one of the highest performance guarantees in the business. Its reported to by 7 figures per show.. I'm sure these small dates arent part of that deal. The real question is why woould another mna /woman care about what someone else is making if it doesn;t affect your life?

Some genuinley care about his art and his legacy, others just worry about his bank and his business.

I bet he secretly hates having to trade on his old self.

That toure book interview video, old Prince, Purple Rain and Lovesexy (The female anchor suddenly looked blank and clueless at Lovesexy, good job the Rainbow Children didn't come up. Didn't hear a peep from her after that)

That's how it is now.

Because he hates the internet, he loved it once. Funny that.

Marrk said:

Some genuinley care about his art and his legacy, others just worry about his bank and his business.

I bet he secretly hates having to trade on his old self.

That toure book interview video, old Prince, Purple Rain and Lovesexy (The female anchor suddenly looked blank and clueless at Lovesexy, good job the Rainbow Children didn't come up. Didn't hear a peep from her after that)

That's how it is now.

Because he hates the internet, he loved it once. Funny that.

What utter nonsense. Prince's art and legacy is not going away becasue he is not on YouTube. And let's not pretend this is about anything but someone's childish sense of entitlement..other than Prince's..

'Oh noes, Prince has disappeared from my Facebook, he must not exist anymore' or was it becasue of MySpace, AOL, Netscape..it's a wonder he was relevant in the 80's without the internet. SMH

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lwr001 said:

CandaceS said:

Link? I'm not searching for it.

Multiplying 250 x a few hundred tickets does not bring in anywhere near $1 million. Nor will the bar in the club sell enough drinks to make up the difference, not to mention leave a profit margin for the promoter. And if the tickets don't all sell (most of the cities on this tour still have tickets available), there's another shortfall.

Prince does inded have one of the highest performance guarantees in the business. Its reported to by 7 figures per show.. I'm sure these small dates arent part of that deal. The real question is why woould another mna /woman care about what someone else is making if it doesn;t affect your life?

I only brought it up because everyone keeps in implying that not being on YOUTUBE or some other social network with free content will hurt his concert sales. This is just not true for Prince and I see no evidence that is true for any other performer. People on this site simply want free music or at least they want P's music to be free and P does not see it that way and that is his right.

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I've been on the org for years....Folks have been plotting his demise or saying he is over since this place started. There were those who actually believed or questioned whether or not he was going to even get inducted into the RRHOF let alone be a first round selection

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V10LETBLUES said:

Marrk said:

Some genuinley care about his art and his legacy, others just worry about his bank and his business.

What utter nonsense. Prince's art and legacy is not going away becasue he is not on YouTube.

It's evidenced in this thread.

Where is the Montreux video he trailed on his OWN website? not here yet. Don't expect it either. Luckily i have it being a studious, naughty bootleg collector, with hard drives filled with stuff money can't buy but that's not the point. I would buy it. It's nothing to do with my self-entitlement, or selfishness. i own that shit anyway.

Joe Blogs who might just have gotten fully in to Prince had he seen Montreux now has no chance of seeing or buying it, and going on past history, never will. So he walks away scratching his head at the lack of product available. Well that equals another potential lost Prince fan right there. You could multiply that example over and over.

How many years is it since his last official DVD release? How many tours has he done since then? Waste opportunities at every turn. Thank fuck for bootlegs.

Prince is an idiot and frankly anyone that doesn't see that is the follower of an idiot.

Don't worry he's still a millionnaire. Apparently that makes him relevant still. Wrong.

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Marrk said:

V10LETBLUES said:

What utter nonsense. Prince's art and legacy is not going away becasue he is not on YouTube.

It's evidenced in this thread.

Where is the Montreux video he trailed on his OWN website? not here yet. Don't expect it either. Luckily i have it being a studious, naughty bootleg collector, with hard drives filled with stuff money can't buy but that's not the point. I would buy it. It's nothing to do with my self-entitlement, or selfishness. i own that shit anyway.

Joe Blogs who might just have gotten fully in to Prince had he seen Montreux now has no chance of seeing or buying it, and going on past history, never will. So he walks away scratching his head at the lack of product available. Well that equals another potential lost Prince fan right there. You could multiply that example over and over.

How many years is it since his last official DVD release? How many tours has he done since then? Waste opportunities at every turn. Thank fuck for bootlegs.

Prince is an idiot and frankly anyone that doesn't see that is the follower of an idiot.

Don't worry he's still a millionnaire. Apparently that makes him relevant still. Wrong.

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hear that montreux 2009 will come out in december just before xmas....montreux 2013 takes another 4 years. by that time Prince starts his 21st hits tour in europe....

rafael said:

hear that montreux 2009 will come out in december just before xmas....montreux 2013 takes another 4 years. by that time Prince starts his 21st hits tour in europe....

I now know when to plan my holiday....

rafael said:

Marrk said:

It's evidenced in this thread.

Where is the Montreux video he trailed on his OWN website? not here yet. Don't expect it either. Luckily i have it being a studious, naughty bootleg collector, with hard drives filled with stuff money can't buy but that's not the point. I would buy it. It's nothing to do with my self-entitlement, or selfishness. i own that shit anyway.

Joe Blogs who might just have gotten fully in to Prince had he seen Montreux now has no chance of seeing or buying it, and going on past history, never will. So he walks away scratching his head at the lack of product available. Well that equals another potential lost Prince fan right there. You could multiply that example over and over.

How many years is it since his last official DVD release? How many tours has he done since then? Waste opportunities at every turn. Thank fuck for bootlegs.

Prince is an idiot and frankly anyone that doesn't see that is the follower of an idiot.

Don't worry he's still a millionnaire. Apparently that makes him relevant still. Wrong.

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hear that montreux 2009 will come out in december just before xmas....montreux 2013 takes another 4 years. by that time Prince starts his 21st hits tour in europe....

"Prince is an idiot and frankly anyone that doesn't see that is the follower of an idiot." You collect bootlegs so you are a follower [Name calling snip - luv4u].

He can put out whatever he wants to put out. You do not get to decide and the attiude of I am booting something because I have a right to it is idiotic. I am sorry you

Socialist do not understand the concept of free market. Since P is a millionaire meaning someone likes paying to see him perform and actually buy his music he is relevant. You stop being relevant when the marketplace stops buying your stuff not because 2,000 memebers of Prince.org are angry at the lack of free goodies.

Joe Blogs is free to go to ITUNES and buy some music.

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laurarichardson said:

He can put out whatever he wants to put out.

He can't; he failed last time. Did you forget his excuse?

You do not get to decide and the attiude of I am booting something because I have a right to it is idiotic.

We have no rights but we got it via different ways.

I am sorry you Socialist

You must be american. Still not garbbing the real menaing of `socialist`. Please reread. Also check the meaning of capitalism and how the anglo-saxons have perverted capitalism into socialism for the rich.

do not understand the concept of free market.

Show me a market that is truly free. You can't.

I can. Maybe bicoin comes close at this moment in time.

Since P is a millionaire meaning someone likes paying to see him perform and actually buy his music he is relevant.

What does his stash of cash have to do with attending shows and buying records?

You stop being relevant when the marketplace stops buying your stuff not because 2,000 memebers of Prince.org are angry at the lack of free goodies.

People, aftera while, do get an idea of how the person behind the musician is.

That idea migth backfire.

laurarichardson said:

rafael said:

hear that montreux 2009 will come out in december just before xmas....montreux 2013 takes another 4 years. by that time Prince starts his 21st hits tour in europe....

"Prince is an idiot and frankly anyone that doesn't see that is the follower of an idiot." You collect bootlegs so you are a follower [Name calling snip - luv4u].

He can put out whatever he wants to put out. You do not get to decide and the attiude of I am booting something because I have a right to it is idiotic. I am sorry you

Socialist do not understand the concept of free market. Since P is a millionaire meaning someone likes paying to see him perform and actually buy his music he is relevant. You stop being relevant when the marketplace stops buying your stuff not because 2,000 memebers of Prince.org are angry at the lack of free goodies.

Joe Blogs is free to go to ITUNES and buy some music.

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He's an idiot in only one aspect, marketing. That's all i was saying. You as usual are an idiot in many. Always missing the point entirely and start spouting irrelevant nonsense as per usual.

Seeding Work It 2.0 right now. I'm just being social.

Free the music.

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Damn, That is a Really Fucking ugly white man!

My Favorite scene from Purple Rain! " />

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I was tempted to start spending money on this music because for the most part I have really liked what I have heard but now I'm glad I didn't spend the money

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

robertlove said:

Sweetie, he is selling nothing these days, I don't think most poeple know there is even a website with new songs.

"LotusFlow3r" sold half a million copies through one retailer. 20T3N(Shipped a million & a half copies).....Both independent releases.....The new songs out are not on an album & r experimental "MasterPieces"....

Thanks KCoolMuziq with your facts, you just robertlove!

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