zobilamouche said:

Omey said:

Never be done for me, because almost anything he releases is better than all the other crap out there. I mean even if for example 'Rock & Roll Love Affair' is no 'Little Red Corvette' it's still better than anything Bieber or Britney is going to put out. Also I was incredibly impressed with 2009's Lotusflo3er/MPLSound. Granted 20Ten wasn't the best, but we know he punches out music every year so we are bound to get some perfection and just some of what he wants to release just because.

The argument that whatever prince puts out is better then any other artists music is starting to run pretty thin. Especially as there are other people making music then the Biebers and Britneys of this world. Maybe you won't easely find artists of his stature but there is good music out there and RnR affair is nothing to get cheery about.

Prince has the advantage of having a large history of music making that is filled with wonderfull music but lately? Planet Earth is the first album of which I don't put any song in a play list, 20TEN was even worse... The Lotus set was a short improvement and then we got Hot Summer and this new single, which doesn't make a ripple in the water.

My current feel is that we 've seen the best of Prince and since 20Ten, I've been less and less curious about his new output as nothing impressive has been emerging.

So, I still love a lot of his music but nothing of recent date and I don't expect this to change soon.

I agree strongly on this, there are tons of artists & entertainers in many different genre that are putting out really good music that rivals albums Prince has put out in the last 10 yrs

I was on Timmy's NEW MUSIC THREAD (IV) in Music: Non-Prince and found some seriously good stuff

I'm still loving a lot of what Meschell NDegeochello is doing, I'm a HUGE jazz fan and that place is a deep well of good music, I'm into a lot of underground stuff etc

It just seems that there are Prince fans who just help Prince 'believe his own hype'

Toofunkyinhere said:

I lost the purple feeling for 4 or 5 years. Gotta go back to basics, and put on The Hits 1 & 2/b-sides package and be reminded how incredible this guy is, and why you got into him in the first place. It worked a treat for me;-)

U might not want to because it's mostly going to take you to a place (and people) we may not ever get again.

But my playlist are constantly from 1976-1988/89

I don't think a week goes by that I don't listen to Computer Blue any of those raw band workouts

Not completely. In one minute, I can go from "hating" the guy to being excited that he's playing Chicago again.

His newer stuff doesn't excite me like it used to but there is always one Prince song on an album that I dig. I think that will always be the case.

I don't expect to dig him like i did 20 years ago because, justlike with all of my other favorite artists, the line of really great music always stops. He is no exception to me.

I will always listen to Prince's music as long as I live.

OldFriends4Sale said:

zobilamouche said:

The argument that whatever prince puts out is better then any other artists music is starting to run pretty thin. Especially as there are other people making music then the Biebers and Britneys of this world. Maybe you won't easely find artists of his stature but there is good music out there and RnR affair is nothing to get cheery about.

Prince has the advantage of having a large history of music making that is filled with wonderfull music but lately? Planet Earth is the first album of which I don't put any song in a play list, 20TEN was even worse... The Lotus set was a short improvement and then we got Hot Summer and this new single, which doesn't make a ripple in the water.

My current feel is that we 've seen the best of Prince and since 20Ten, I've been less and less curious about his new output as nothing impressive has been emerging.

So, I still love a lot of his music but nothing of recent date and I don't expect this to change soon.

I agree strongly on this, there are tons of artists & entertainers in many different genre that are putting out really good music that rivals albums Prince has put out in the last 10 yrs

I was on Timmy's NEW MUSIC THREAD (IV) in Music: Non-Prince and found some seriously good stuff

I'm still loving a lot of what Meschell NDegeochello is doing, I'm a HUGE jazz fan and that place is a deep well of good music, I'm into a lot of underground stuff etc

It just seems that there are Prince fans who just help Prince 'believe his own hype'

I have been following a bit of a quirky path when it comes to listening to music and I have to agree that even older Jazz recordings sound way more adventurous then what Prince has put out lately. I think Betty Carter has been way more uncompromising in her career than Prince ever was. The result being that you can still play her music and feel surprised, challenged etc, in a good way.

What some here call prince his uncompromising artistry seems more like tunnelvision and stubborness. It's only worth being this unflexible if it's to do something new and challenging that no-one else would dare to do. His music of late is everything but challenging.

Maybe the only way in which he's been setting the mark a bit, is the way he does business and sells his music. But frankly, that now seems to present us with a pigheaded musician with not much new to say but tremendously uptight about copyrights and money and a focus on things that have very little to do with making awesome and inspiring music.

OldFriends4Sale said:

zobilamouche said:

The argument that whatever prince puts out is better then any other artists music is starting to run pretty thin. Especially as there are other people making music then the Biebers and Britneys of this world. Maybe you won't easely find artists of his stature but there is good music out there and RnR affair is nothing to get cheery about.

Prince has the advantage of having a large history of music making that is filled with wonderfull music but lately? Planet Earth is the first album of which I don't put any song in a play list, 20TEN was even worse... The Lotus set was a short improvement and then we got Hot Summer and this new single, which doesn't make a ripple in the water.

My current feel is that we 've seen the best of Prince and since 20Ten, I've been less and less curious about his new output as nothing impressive has been emerging.

So, I still love a lot of his music but nothing of recent date and I don't expect this to change soon.

I agree strongly on this, there are tons of artists & entertainers in many different genre that are putting out really good music that rivals albums Prince has put out in the last 10 yrs

I was on Timmy's NEW MUSIC THREAD (IV) in Music: Non-Prince and found some seriously good stuff

I'm still loving a lot of what Meschell NDegeochello is doing, I'm a HUGE jazz fan and that place is a deep well of good music, I'm into a lot of underground stuff etc

It just seems that there are Prince fans who just help Prince 'believe his own hype'

I find it extremely rare to find any artist that has been consistently good across the board for 30 years straight. Even you start name dropping people I'm sure you'll find people who disagree on what you consider to be excellent all the time. I'm a huge Mescell fan myself and I can clearly tell you not all of her output is great. I approach all artist with a realistic sense, not everyone is great forever. I simply like what I like and I don't like what i like.

as long as he feels he has put out the best he can offer artistically then we can't complain. the problem is we will never know the truth. by releasing an album, we should presume he feels it is worthy of his name. if his musical goals are not the same as what his fans are expecting, what should he do?

i can't believe somebody with so much drive earlier in his career has dried up. with access to easier recording methods, even a 10 minute jam can be made to sound like a single with a bit of editing by an eager co producer.

FragileUndertow said:

Is Your Prince Feeling Gone?

As for him shutting down sites, cease and desist, the youtube thing, being an asshole

Has no bearing how i feel for his music

I will always have love for the old stuff and some outakes, bootlegs

but musically as of 2006 and up there is little to get excited about

I think if he released a new album every year my intrest would still be there

but now a days i dont really care as much

all you have to do is see him live on an even halfway decent night and he'll bring that feeling right back again.

vainandy said:

2elijah said:

Nope. One of the things I respect about Prince, is that he never allowed anyone, regardless of any criticism from fans/media/music industry, etc., to prevent him from creating/playing music his way. He still doesn't allow anyone to pigeon-hole him into one category of music. He's still risky with his music, and doesn't try to jump on the bandwagon-of-all-artists-sounding-the-same, especially like many of the new artists today, which the industry promotes, where none so far, have revolutionized the sound of music, like Prince and other artists have done and are known for, in the past.

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I lost the Prince feeling years ago. It is absolutely true that he always did it his way and still continues to do so to this very day. Nobody else would dare to throwdown hard ass shaking funk in today's dull shit hop infested world but Prince still does to this very day so he gets my upmost respect and admiration for that. Even though it ain't as great as the funk he used to make, it's still funk and that is unheard of in this present day and age. Hell, even Rick James had to finally give it up before he died and give Prince props for being the only one keeping funk alive so that's saying a lot right there.

But as far as the not trying to jump on the bandwagon of all artists sounding the same part, that's not true. I've seen him do it many times with songs like "Laydown", "Valentina", "Incense and Candles", "Mr. Goodnight", "Illusion, Pimp, and Circumstance", etc. And while there has been some funk on the albums along with it, the mere presence of songs like these absolutely make me taste vomit in my throat if I hear even just a small snippet of them because they are definitely sellout songs that sound influenced by today's sound. It's songs like these that make me open my eyes and face reality that Prince is not perfect no matter how much he wants people to think he is. Not being perfect would be fine with me if it were someone else because I would just be grateful that they were still making funk at a time while nobody else has the guts, good taste, coolness, and rhythm to make it. But when you're someone like Prince who has preached against the music of today and then you turn around and put even one sellout shit hop sounding song on your album, it makes you look like a fake hypocrit and that just turns me off. I can respect putting things that I normally wouldn't care for such as Clare Fischer orchestras on a record becasue that is daring and taking chances but going the shit hop route, for even one song, is not taking chances or risks and is just selling out and is a complete turnoff. It's like he still wants to hang on to the old money from the longtime fans by making funk but also wants to gain fans of today's music by also putting some sellout songs on the album and I say fuck 'em because they've got the whole radio to listen to if they want to hear that type of shit. One sellout song from Prince takes the place of where a good song could have been placed on the album, plus it spoils the whole mood of the album by it's mere presence on the album. Prince just thinks he's a perfectionist but he's not compared to me and I'm a STRICT perfectionist.

Lawd Vain, how'd you find me over here? Anyway, although we agree on some of what I stated in my post, I have to disagree with you about Prince jumping on the bandwagon or selling out, as you stated that you feel some tracks within some of his albums, are what you consider as 'selling out'. The difference is, even though he may have 'dabbled' or tested the waters, with a little mainstream stuff, my point in my previous post, was that he never got 'stuck or pigeon-holed' in it, like by jumping on the bandwagon and having an entire album that sounded mainstream, as he never went 'full circle' with his music like that. All the tracks on his albums did not have the same 'sound', so-to-speak. There has always been a variety of various sounds on most of his albums, that I've listened to.

With Prince, you never know what you're getting next. That's what keeps him interesting as an artist. He may do an album with some r&b vibes, mixed with some blues rock or pop-rock, some latin-flavored tracks. Kind of like his 3121 album, where there was a mixture of various sounds on that album. You may get some r&b/latin-flavor, some spiritually-laced, funk-latin track, a very, deep, bluesy, soulful cornbread, rice and beans in-your-face Al Green track, a funk-rock heavy one, smooth jazz cafe vibe or a beautiful ballad. I like how he mixes different flavors in his music. That's what sets him apart from many other artists. That's what I'm talking about. He gives a little of everything musically, for the various, music tastes of his fans, especially when you have a fan base as large as his.

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My Prince feeling is gone too lately. He and his music used to be exciting, but it doesn't do it for me anymore of late. The old classic albums I have heard too much, and the new stuff doesn't excite me as much as the old music did. Too tired and formulaic, or trying too hard to sound "modern", or just plain boring songs/production.

And now some of you will say "you are just growing old", but there are other older artists that still manage to excite me with their new output. Take someone like Donald Fagen, 64 years old now, his latest album Sunken Condos is great! You hear familiar sounds to his older albums, so it is retro sounding in a way, but that doesn't matter because the songs are so good, with well written smart lyrics, attention to detail, fabulous performances by the musicians, and beautiful lush production. That is the way to do it I believe, Prince should take notice by artists like Donald. The difference might well be that Donald works with a producer, someone to give you some honest feedback and will help yo to get the best out of yourself.

I liked some tunes of "20Ten" actually quite a bit more than lots of his other output in the last decade, but that album was released over two years ago now. And although I really liked some of the tracks, I still feel lyrically there is lacking a lot. And I would like to hear a lusher production. Again, I would love Prince to work with a respectable producer outside of his own camp.

I think overall Prince has become too safe and too conventional, not experimental and sexy anymore. His live shows can get sloppy too these days. I believe he lost a lot of his funk in the studio since the nineties. I would love it if he would just do some of that "oldschool hardhitting funk" again that was his trademark in the early eighties. One can only dream, for now we have to do with that shitty derivative "RnR Love Affair" song...

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Oh it's definitely gone. I have very, very little faith that he'll ever release new music that I'll like. It's possible since Prince is full of surprises, but it's looking increasingly unlikely. I've mostly moved on. My favourite artist is actually Radiohead, and I've liked-loved every release from The Bends onwards and still do. They continue to give me everything Prince doesn't. I get excited when I hear news of a new upcoming album from them, I tend to love their new material each time, and that in turn makes me want to listen to their previous albums again to see if the new material has given me a new perspective on the old (and it usually has).

When I listen to a song like Rock & Roll Love Affair and then go back and listen to a random old song like I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man, I can't believe it's the same human being.

For me, what alienates me the most with Prince's new material is how simplistic and juvenile most of it is. Prince doesn't seem to sing about anything important most of the time, and then when he does he seems to have the same level of depth as he did in songs like Ronnie Talk 2 Russia! There is no growth or depth on display. It's sad and leaves me with little interest as I get older.

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I still respect him, he's a great musician, so i'll always be interested in what he's putting out. I don't worship the ground he walks on like back in the 80's, but then i'm not a teen anymore either.

There's nothing really that surprising in that Prince box anymore, He's somewhat been a parody of himself for awhile now.

Music moves on, and there's lots of it out there. Some far better than what he's capable of putting out now and that my friends, is a fact.

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The feeling is still part of me, as Prince's music is part of my mind..

His music has changed through the years, he has evolved, has tested, taken new directions..

I enjoy seeing and listenning to him live, because, he is for sure a very talented Artist, Musician; whenever he plays live past tracks, he makes me travel always through other dimensions..

Sometimes, many days pass by and I listen to other artists, then suddenly, a word, a note, a sound convey my mind to Prince's music and I come back to him with appetite and pleasure fullfills me entirely .

OldFriends4Sale said:

It just seems that there are Prince fans who just help Prince 'believe his own hype'

Wow! So you are saying that there is no possible way that some of us could actually like the recent music and that those of us who claim to like the bulk of what he has produced after 1999 are either liars or delusional. I tend to respect much of what you say. But, statements like this cause you to appear to be as biased and subjective as you are accusing others of being.

nursev said:

I mean do you feel it's a wrap for Prince? Has he gone as far as he can go as an artist? Do you still like his music? It's bothering me, but I think I'm over the purpleness I mean the music doesn't excite me anymore- I think I'm done.

So, when does that mean that you will be done creating these types of threads???????????

excited said:

yeah i feel the same, i'm no longer crushing on him.. i'm on the verge of changing my username, the purple dimension is VERY dull at the mo, what with predictable concerts, andy allo, r&r affair, those yellow trousers & now the petit prince.. prince is officially a boring old codger, unfunky & unsexy

to what? underwhelmed? tired? bore?

it comes and goes, if you read my Prince week report, you will see I still had mine very much and strongly in May

Since 1989 to be exact...lol! Lots of talent, but far too few satisfying or interesting results.

i lost the "feeling" years ago, the 98 wembley gig and rave era destroyed it for me. there have been the odd thing i like, rainbow children revived me for a while but still it hasn't got the love or sex of lovesexy. 80-88 are the years he was a nailed on genius freak. 20-30 years later and i still listen to that era and find something new to tune into. i listened to the controversy album the other day right through after a year or two of abstainence and i swear when i heard that tight chicken scratching rhythm guitar playing on top of the robotic drum and synth stabs i nearly spunked up in my pants.

he was a massive part of my formative years so for that i will always retain interest in him, but i'm at the stage where i think i'm done with him musically. hey no hard feelings, i appreciate the memories!

Nope! Just came back to him four years ago...so it's fresh all over again. Kinda like rediscovering an old flame.

Nope!! I don't think it will ever get to that point!

Hi Nursey!

Nope. I'm still buzzing over seeing him do The Dance Electric live. I got the same feelings that I always get I was jonesing. Just needed my fix, baby, and I got it.

*white, black, Puerto Rican, everybody just-a-freakin, good times were rollin'. She started dancin' in the street!* That's exactly what it was. I was groovin' the minute I heard the Dance Electric rehearsal. Baby boy is back to doing Dark too, one of my fave ever, and he tears that thing up.

I have come to realize that I will not like every single little thing Princey does. *shrug* What I DO like outweighs the very small amount that I don't like by far. I am thankful and grateful for the gems that I do have, my experiences, & my memories. Prince is my favorite of all time, the number one spot, and always will be. It's the soundtrack of my formative years, and well, my life.

I just listened to him singing on some rehearsal jams. Nope. It ain't over.

purplethunder3121 said:

Nope! Just came back to him four years ago...so it's fresh all over again. Kinda like rediscovering an old flame.

Just like old times!

I've lost the Pruple feeling

I never close my eyes anymore when I play your new shit.
And there's no innovation like before in songs like "Kiss."
I'm trying hard not to show it, (baby u were a star).
But Princey, Princy you know it...

I've lost that Purple feeling,
Whoa, that Purple feeling,
I've lost that Purple feeling,
Now it's gone...gone...gone...Ouah ah waaaa.

My Prince feeling is deeply ingrained within my heart, body, mind and soul. Everywhere I go, I carry his songs around with me. He is always in my hair. His music can speak to me no matter what the situation, he's made something that will cover it. He still manages to surprise and can still make me smile. My Prince feeling will only grow.

FunkySideEffects said:

I hate to bring up religion here but I feel that since he's become a JW he's been too restricted on what type of music he puts out. I enjoyed the freedom he had to swear or write whatever sexual lyrics he wanted to in order to express himself. TGE is my favourite album & there's no way he can release music like that now & it's just sad.

That's exactly my opinion, only The Gold Experience isn't my favorite album, though I like it a lot. Purple Rain and Sign o' the Times are my favorites, with Come and The Gold Experience right after them on the list.

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