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Reply #30 posted 10/28/12 12:49am

udo

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BartVanHemelen said:

So let's see: this was filmed, edited, artwork was designed, it was printed up and then Prince decided it wasn't good enough? ZERO quality control.

You imply that with proper quality control (down the line...) the quality would have been better in the first place?

So less chance for mr P (the man higher up) to decide against it.

Once again mr P fails.

Boots are still beating him.

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Reply #31 posted 10/28/12 2:38am

timmie

it is pretty good really - too much of that mini-interview crap with misc people he like to use to tell the viewer how great he is though - just show the performance !

however I think the live footage is from the final night in London which is great as I was there, even with too few songs on the dvd it was ok - but can see why he thought why bother releasing it biggrin

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Reply #32 posted 10/28/12 3:02am

jimino1

dunno why the live footage is such bad quality compared to the the interviews...compare this to lovesexy live or even the LA 2004 bootleg DVD and the live segments are just such terrible quality....even makes the ONA vegas dvd look professional.... weird...for that reason I'm glad he didn't release this...

man, he really needs to get his shit together... the quality control has gone downhill ever since leaving WBs...sad really....

other than the very vrey average picture quality of the live segments, this is a geat thing to have

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Reply #33 posted 10/28/12 3:15am

ottoegil

I like it - but in a TV-special kinda way...

Only wish there was more live footage...

I can see why it was never released, but still a cool thing to have. smile

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Reply #34 posted 10/28/12 4:19am

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I'm saying this without having seen the DVD. My guess is that it was meant as a promotional dvd for something, possibly that opus ipod thingie. But like many many many many other projects in the past, Prince sees a shiny metal object aaaaand he's gone.

I don't understand how Prince couldn't just print up a couple thousand of these, and sell them on a website. How many tiny bands are doing this now? Sure he won't make millions, but when he doesn't release them he makes zero dollars.

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Reply #35 posted 10/28/12 5:15am

chopingard

Just watched the trailer and i'm so looking forward to it.

I will say the only downer (and it's a very small complaint) Is that I know the live footage was filmed in HD and looked better then this. He's just overlit and blurred the whole thing so his crows feet don't show. I wish he would leave all the over airbrushing and blurring video to look younger.

His performance was awesome and since I'm not looking for this to be the definitive statement of the 21 nights I don't mind the Celebs and cut aways.

Is there any aftershow footage from the Indigo?

Also what's the full song list?

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Reply #36 posted 10/28/12 5:22am

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jimino1 said:

dunno why the live footage is such bad quality compared to the the interviews..

The live stuff is from the same feed(s) that goes onto the screens during the shows.

It is not stuff specially made for dvd or broadcast, if there's any difference.

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Reply #37 posted 10/28/12 5:31am

Soulstar77A

Does anyone know which date the footage is from?

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Reply #38 posted 10/28/12 5:35am

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Soulstar77A said:

Does anyone know which date the footage is from?

The 21 on his back -in a certain shot- suggests the final show?

(the final two weeks I did just the aftershows so I cannot confirm)

We cannot rule out that the live footage is from different dates.

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Reply #39 posted 10/28/12 5:57am

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What is the exact title of this?

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Reply #40 posted 10/28/12 6:04am

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udo said:

The 21 on his back -in a certain shot- suggests the final show?

(the final two weeks I did just the aftershows so I cannot confirm)

We cannot rule out that the live footage is from different dates.

Seeing the glowsticks in the crowd places all the concert footage from the last night as that was the only nght they were given out.

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Reply #41 posted 10/28/12 6:39am

udo

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swanny said:

udo said:

The 21 on his back -in a certain shot- suggests the final show?

(the final two weeks I did just the aftershows so I cannot confirm)

We cannot rule out that the live footage is from different dates.

Seeing the glowsticks in the crowd places all the concert footage from the last night as that was the only nght they were given out.

I even recall glowsticks being taken away from people because they could be thrown onto the stage. Oh horror...

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Reply #42 posted 10/28/12 6:45am

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udo said:

swanny said:

Seeing the glowsticks in the crowd places all the concert footage from the last night as that was the only nght they were given out.

I even recall glowsticks being taken away from people because they could be thrown onto the stage. Oh horror...

They get taken away from people attending the last night aftershow precisely because they were thrown at the stage during the main show. One hit Prince on the back while he was at his keyboard. Can't really blame them from trying to ban them at the aftershow really.

RIP sad
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Reply #43 posted 10/28/12 8:22am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

What is the exact title of this?

The actual promo dvd's only had "21" as the title.

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Reply #44 posted 10/28/12 8:23am

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BartVanHemelen said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

40 odd mins of concert footage spliced with various celebretards gushing over Prince. The actual footage that you want to see (ie Prince on stage) is poor quality, in fact it's shit, but it is pro shot. The interviews with the celebretards is in better quality. Worth the 5 year wait for this? Not for me, but I'm sure that many of you will love it.

Prince has zero quality control. ZERO.

Yeah, and not just with video.

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Reply #45 posted 10/28/12 9:58am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Prince has zero quality control. ZERO.

Yeah, and not just with video.

So what is the solution? biggrin

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Reply #46 posted 10/28/12 3:19pm

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udo said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Yeah, and not just with video.

So what is the solution? biggrin

Ro only release stuff after it's been ok'd with Bart.

RIP sad
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Reply #47 posted 10/28/12 3:41pm

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I see that the audio from this dvd has been released as a new FBG release. Nice artwork.

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Reply #48 posted 10/28/12 3:55pm

veronikka

Why would he allow SHOE to be in this? he sounds terrible! shake Agree that all the celebs blahblah should have been replaced with more concert footage but I did like the bit with the Twins. I dont think I will ever get tired of hearing Purple Rain live heart
Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul
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Reply #49 posted 10/28/12 4:27pm

jonylawson

its a now sad indictment on this site that i avoid ANY threads till i have seen or heard stuff.

it is so fucking negative now

whiny ass bitches (some...NOT ALL of you!)

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Reply #50 posted 10/28/12 4:31pm

Fonkyman

Best bit's the quote from the whinging mop. "He said 4 words on stage tonight: Real music by real musicians".

Abacus for Elton?

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Reply #51 posted 10/28/12 4:33pm

Fonkyman

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its a now sad indictment on this site that i avoid ANY threads till i have seen or heard stuff.

it is so fucking negative now

I wont mention the real sample set by real musicians then.

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Reply #52 posted 10/28/12 5:16pm

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Sounds like there was a lot of over-inflated hoopla involved in the anticipation for this release... lol

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Reply #53 posted 10/29/12 1:01am

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I've dl'd it twice and it keeps coming up with a corrupt VOB file. Anyone else having the same problem?

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Reply #54 posted 10/29/12 10:14am

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What is the 50-second audio from the 'menu'?

Please explain the naming or whatever.

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Reply #55 posted 10/29/12 10:21am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

I've dl'd it twice and it keeps coming up with a corrupt VOB file. Anyone else having the same problem?

Nope.

After I figured out how to unzip that weird stuff on a non-windoze platform the extraction was quite OK and appears to be not corrupted.

(the ZIP was 500 megs and the Z01 was 1900 megs yet the ZIP was supposed to be the END of the archive; which IDIOT erred from the age old convention of full size files first for ZIP, RAR, etc and at the end the remainder; i.e.: ZIP, Z01, etc in full size; final file is shorter)

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Reply #56 posted 10/29/12 10:22am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

What is the exact title of this?

The directory in the archive is named 'p21', maybe referring to the promo status of this 21 DVD.

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Reply #57 posted 10/29/12 10:49am

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udo said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I've dl'd it twice and it keeps coming up with a corrupt VOB file. Anyone else having the same problem?

Nope.

After I figured out how to unzip that weird stuff on a non-windoze platform the extraction was quite OK and appears to be not corrupted.

(the ZIP was 500 megs and the Z01 was 1900 megs yet the ZIP was supposed to be the END of the archive; which IDIOT erred from the age old convention of full size files first for ZIP, RAR, etc and at the end the remainder; i.e.: ZIP, Z01, etc in full size; final file is shorter)

I found a different link for the DVD which unpacked with no problems. I also found a link for an mp4 version which for some reason looks better in terms of quality but is only a fraction of the size of the DVD file. How is that possible?

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Reply #58 posted 10/29/12 10:55am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

I found a different link for the DVD which unpacked with no problems. I also found a link for an mp4 version which for some reason looks better in terms of quality but is only a fraction of the size of the DVD file. How is that possible?

MPEG2 versus H.264 codec.

Looks better? How can that be if it is sourced from the DVD?

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Reply #59 posted 10/29/12 10:57am

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udo said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I found a different link for the DVD which unpacked with no problems. I also found a link for an mp4 version which for some reason looks better in terms of quality but is only a fraction of the size of the DVD file. How is that possible?

MPEG2 versus H.264 codec.

Looks better? How can that be if it is sourced from the DVD?

i dont know enough to be able to explain it. but for some reason the mp4 looks clearer on my screen. too bad about the watermark on the screen tho. but that's a small quibble as it's free.

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