I disagree totally. It's a funky piece, rhymes well, fits the song and album and Cat is /was one funky chick. She moved superbly, was super dry in body shape & the rap was perfect.

'Now run and tell your mama about that!'

It's just so unfortunate that Prince wanted to go near that genre. He should've left it totally alone.

robertlove said:

RodeoSchro said:

I think we've reached 100% total agreement that there's just no such thing as good rap.

Who's "we"? That's your opinion. I like rap, maybe not the modern version, but early rap is still good to me.

thepope2the9s said:

MartyMcFly said:

How's about: "Tony! Get on the mike"!

much worse.....

Cat's rap never bothered me .

[Edited 8/24/12 15:39pm]

KingSausage said:

Or TC Ellis on the Get Off maxi single: Kid! Kid! I got ta do this! I got tha noise!

this!

I like her rap

U kiss your enemies like you know U should

then U jerk your body like a horny pony would

SoulAlive said:

I like her rap

U kiss your enemies like you know U should

then U jerk your body like a horny pony would

yeah it is okay. I also love Prince's rap in Girls and Boys....

SoulAlive said:

how about P's rap from "Push"??? " u don't me on the mic...nah man...u dont want me on the mic??" your fuckin right we dont...sit your non rapping ass down!!!

MickyDolenz said:

RodeoSchro said:

I think we've reached 100% total agreement that there's just no such thing as good rap.

Who's "we"? That's your opinion. I like rap, maybe not the modern version, but early rap is still good to me.

I was never a fan, still not, nor an authority on rap but I've got to admit The Message is about as powerful a work as any I've heard, TI"s Whatever You LIke has some great music and production in it. I love some of Tupac's work but by and large, never been a fan of the genre and hate seeing it blow up like it did and usurp every other genre, nearly wiping out a lot music.

its much better than the one on beautiful night about the table and the chair that talk to each other and shit ... its better than ANY rap prince has ever done EVER .. plus ween thru it in their cover of shockadelica .. which makes it even super cooler

KingSausage said:

SoulAlive said:

I like her rap

U kiss your enemies like you know U should

then U jerk your body like a horny pony would

DE, you're looking for trouble.

TrevorAyer said:

petes2 said:

MickyDolenz said:

Who's "we"? That's your opinion. I like rap, maybe not the modern version, but early rap is still good to me.

I've got to admit The Message is about as powerful a work as any I've heard

One of the verses in The Message was recycled from an earlier 1979 Grandmaster Flash & Furious 5 song called Superrappin'.

MickyDolenz said:

petes2 said:

I've got to admit The Message is about as powerful a work as any I've heard

One of the verses in The Message was recycled from an earlier 1979 Grandmaster Flash & Furious 5 song called Superrappin'.

ok, it's one of the seminal works of hip hop, it's Johnny B. Goode of the form. Of course thats a hard example to use but I think you'd get my point.

Cat is just one more bit of clutter on an overly cluttered album with an overly cluttered sensibility.

PoorLonelyComputer said:

It's just so unfortunate that Prince wanted to go near that genre. He should've left it totally alone.

and how any adult at the time could take "spooky electric" seriously I don't know. The problem which happens to nearly all pop stars is that they go through a fixed adolescence because of their lifestyles, it's a problem for some fans because all of that mumbo jumbo which I loved at 15 was wearing thin at 20. And also, knowing Prince like I feel I knew him as an ardent fan who read about him, I was also getting used to him singing lyrics he clearly did not mean. He'd sing about peace and run his own little world like a tyrant, that's not so bad but I learned with him (and others) to seperate the artist from the art. Anyway, Spooky Electric, Anna Stesia, uhh....Lovesexy I know I'm missing some shit,, I never really thought of as any serious concept.

I like Cat on Alphabet St. Also liked her on Cindy C. (until it was revealed to be a complete rip off). Transmississippirap is untouchable in my opinion, it adds to the song and it is just burned into my expereince of that song and album (in a good way).

i never heard cindy c was a ripoff do tell

petes2 said:

i never heard cindy c was a ripoff do tell

Cindy C isn't the ripoff, but her rap is undeniably lifted (fast forward to 3:39 of the song)

[Edited 8/25/12 0:28am]

Topic starter has a context that is very in the 'now' and has no historical perspective.

Can't you hear a difference between Tony and Cat?

Can't you hear how they each fit in their time's music?

Can't you at least see some talent even if you do not like it?

Can't you enjoy music?

Well, it's been proven according to Todd Akin that you're at no risk for getting pregnant after a legitimate ear rape.

And I would consdier that rap legitimate ear rape if I ever heard it.

ufoclub said:

PurpleJedi said:

PoorLonelyComputer said:

It's just so unfortunate that Prince wanted to go near that genre. He should've left it totally alone.

As an old school true Hip Hop follower I could never take Prince´s attempts at rapping seriously, and he probably would get much more respect from many people if he had never dabbled in rap, and I know that he enjoys massive respect among rappers just for being Prince ( so he doesn´t really NEED to prove himself as a rapper) but....when talking about Prince´s attempts at rap, one should also keep in mind that Prince has ALWAYS incorporated current trends into his music, just like he did with New Wave, Synth Pop, Heavy Metal, Rock etc. etc., so it was basically inevitable that he would start to use rap elements in his music.

Sad, but inevitable.

udo said:

imago said:

kenkamken said:

petes2 said:

i never heard cindy c was a ripoff do tell

Cindy C isn't the ripoff, but her rap is undeniably lifted (fast forward to 3:39 of the song)

[Edited 8/25/12 0:28am]

yup blatant ripoff. thanks

OldFriends4Sale said:

Do you like the other one from Cindy C.? I think it was going to be a part of Positivity but not included(?)

The beat won't stop with the JM Jock.

If he jacks the box and the partyrocks.

The clock tick tocks and the place gets hot.

So ease your mind and set yourself free.

To that mystifying music they call the key". -Music Is The Key, JM Silk,

Music is the key 2 set yourself free
From depression, drugs and increasing poverty
The key is 2 the lock, the lock is on the door
The door has a knob that u've never turned before
The jack, use the jack, it opens up the lock
Cuz there's the key 2 unlock the body
Place it like that 2 open up the door
The door 2 the house full of people galore
The beat won't stop 'til the JM jocks
And he jacks the box 'til the party rocks
The clock tick-tocks and the place gets hot
And believe it or not, all the troubles u forgot
It's just that easy if u want it 2 be
For all the fellas, and the young ladies
So ease your mind and set yourself free
2 the mystifying music that we call Cindy C

Thank you, OF4S! But the Alphabet St. rap she does is schweet too.