Oh, I did buy "Crystal Ball," at the record store. I wasn't dependent on the computer back then. Can we get 2gether
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Hit Songs:
Maybe, once upon a time, they were a reflection of what the public was into and were an actual reflection of taste/rotations on the radio/caller requests.
However, for much longer they have been simply an indicator of exposure and successful promotion.
I suspect that this has been the case even early in Prince's career. It is no surprise that his albums with the most "hits" have been his most heavily promoted/funded.
The entire Purple Rain project certainly was a case of massive genius exploding on the world at the exact right time. However, it was also because WB wanted a monster album/machine. They wanted their own Thriller and they pushed/paid for one. Thus, Prince got a movie and WB films behind him as well as WB records.
Once Prince stopped playing nice/being easy with WB the "hits" stopped coming.
As a fan, I could give a shit. My favorite Prince songs are not usually the ones on the radio/tv anyways. "Lady Cab Driver" anyone? [Edited 1/31/11 9:56am] [Edited 1/31/11 9:57am] "New Power slide...." | |
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Well, he actually has to release them and promote them to begin with. You can't have a hit single if you don't release one.
The last song to actually have HIT potential was Chelsea Rogers. All we got was some sort of video and a website that came and went in an instant. No physical copies, nor remxes nor promotion. So....no Hit Single. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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I think all youneed is a decent video and promote it. Put the song on iTunes so people can buy it and you're pretty much done. Radio play doesn't really matter anymore. A good video and let it go viral (which he hates) and folks will tune in. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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And NC2U wasn't even his hit. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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For what it's worth I think the following had potential that was wasted...
Musicology Black Sweat Fury Love Chelsea Rogers Chocolate Box Lay Down Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Hit singles are not what they used to be for one thing. Prince has made some poor single choices for another.
Some fans may believe he is all about the dollar but he could certainly be ten times richer if he released the best obvious singles and stuck to business model that was in place for artists at the height of his popularity. But we knew way back he was not going to do that.
To me he has always walked a fine line between being a commercial artist and being an underground one. His competitive nature at times has made him want to "show" everyone what he is capable of but when you release a song like "I Wish U Heaven" you have to know some people are just not going to get it. I loved the song but hey I got great taste....lol
"Tell me to walk a straight line, I put on crooked shoes". That is Prince all day and night. I have had to accept that as a fan. With all of his "perceived" screw ups he is still a musical legend and that says something. | |
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Great analysis and an interesting read. But was it really necessary to mock the names of his Italian-American management team? Most of what you wrote makes a lot of sense though. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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It doesn't really have anything to do with Prince's songs being good or not. Most singers/bands over a certain age don't have hits. Ageism in radio has always existed. Look at Carlos Santana. Do you really think that Supernatural and the records after it would have sold if Clive Davis hadn't put the young acts that were popular on them? Some have some kind of gimmick to sell like The Isleys' Mr. Biggs. Aretha Franklin did a song with Jermaine Dupri. Charlie Wilson had to sing hooks on rap songs to make a comeback. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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Amazon and iTunes are the best places to get these. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Not to mention the frustrating track listing. You can't just say Crystal Ball and deliver outtakes that are recent or are remixes. Don't get me started about calling 1-800-New-Funk and it'd ring and ring and ring. The ONLY saving grace was The bonus The Truth. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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And Clive Davis was brought in for Rave and look what happened there. I agree that ageism exists, but it doesn't have to stop an artist from having a hit single or album. I think the older you get the chances of having a hit single get slimmer, but your chances of having a hit album remain. Like with everything, the right amount of promotion and publicity can get you far in the business. I just think Prince is very confused as to how he should put his music out there. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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The way that album was mixed, the guests weren't that noticable. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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prince doesn't have hits because he doesn't spend the money to do the proper promotion to generate hits. The one time in the last decade that he had a label set up to do the promotion (Rave), the guy who was behind the promotion was ousted from the company the week the album was released. It was Clive's project, nobody followed through.
It's perhaps worth noting that Prince won as many grammy awards this past decade as he did during his commercial peak in the 80s and his last 4 albums all made the top 3, including a 3121 hitting #1, which is as many top 3 albums as he had in the 80s.
Musicology was 2x platinum, the same as Around the World in a Day 3121 went gold, the same as lovesexy
I hear plenty of songs on his recent albums that are good enough to be hits. And far from being a washed up singer, his vocal work is better than ever. | |
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Is that because people bought it or because Prince had it set up that Billboard tracked the "giveaways" at his concerts? You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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ironically enough, I don't even think you could buy it from 1-800-NEW-FUNK over the internet at the time. I think you had to order it over the phone. | |
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Without the backing of a major label this is what happens. "Musicology & Call My Name" were all over the radio in 04' but I haven't heard SHIT on the radio from any album released after that & it's a sad cause A LOT OF IT IS BETTER THAN THAT CRAP THAT'S IN HEAVY ROTATION TODAY! | |
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He didn't have enough?! "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Because he's old!!! | |
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Thank You. I'm half Italian, but lacked maturity when I wrote that part. I have a complex on how great a writer I am when it comes to Prince. I think the best compliment I can ever get is when the weak minded here trash my posts. So in an odd way, I almost don't want the great compliment you gave me. I do have to give you major props for actually reading my post. I can't believe how much is taken out of context in the complaints some have given me...It is like they have no idea how to distinguish the sarcasm from the reality. | |
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I can't believe I forgot to mention this in my posts. When I was a youngin, Paul McCartney, The Stones, and Stevie Wonder were all still played on Pop Radio after 40. Despite Prince's stupid career moves, he might have had a few more hits if MTV and Radio had not just gone from worse to even worse than horrible awful...but any chance of a hit was taken care of by Prince's actions which were things to avoid hits at all costs, despite producing music that sounded like he was trying for hits. | |
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Could be a clever line if the Sopranos make a movie::
Mobster: "Hey Tony. Why the fuck does Prince not have some more Hit Singles??"
Tony: "Why the fuck are you asking me that for" org me mayrain i had a stroke | |
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"Lady Cab Driver", one of my all time favorites. Top 20 for sure, maybe even Top 10... | |
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if prince WROTE a hit it would BE a hit | |
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This makes no sense. Or does it? "New Power slide...." | |
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That's what I'm saying. Who cares if a song is a "hit" or not? "New Power slide...." | |
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If you're a fan of his work, why would you give fuck all whether he charts or not with hits for the masses? I have plenty of artists that I absolutely adore that no one who likes main stream music has ever heard of, and it doesn't bother me one bit. I'm secure in my musical taste and choices and don't need approval to validate what I consider to be good stuff. Besides, as it is, Prince has made more money than most people can imagine they would see in a lifetime, so as long as he's number one at the bank and has his devoted fan base, I doubt he gives a crap whether he makes Top 40 or not. | |
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Who decides or defines what a "Hit" is? Some idiot dj who thinks Justin Beiber would have a hot duet with Lady Gag?? LMAO
Real Prince fans think most of his songs are "Hits".
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