rwn said:

Tremolina said:

Funny jab. Not. Prince has never been a commercial artist that didn´t care about the quality of his output.

That was one of the great things that set him apart from most other artists. Always real quality music. Now he just sells that all out while sycophants cheer him for it.

That´s sad and depressing. Not just for most of his fans, but also for him and music in general.

And that needs to be said.

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[Edited 10/17/10 13:29pm]

How does the fact that you don't like Prince's current music prove that he doesn't care about it ?

Obviously you can only come up with silly questions as some sort of retort.

Face it man, this song is bad and so is 20ten. Only the fammiest of the fammybots disagree but they would even like it when Prince released a fart.

But he got paid, so he's happy.

Tremolina said:

rwn said:

How does the fact that you don't like Prince's current music prove that he doesn't care about it ?

Obviously you can only come up with silly questions as some sort of retort.

Face it man, this song is bad and so is 20ten. Only the fammiest of the fammybots disagree but they would even like it when Prince released a fart.

But he got paid, so he's happy.

Ok let me get this right. Nobody can enjoy this song because you don't enjoy it and consider it a bad song? What are u like 10 years old? U can hate the song and I can love it. That doesn't tell you anything about the song other then we have different opinions. Why insult other fans because they actually like 20ten? When did God make you the arbitrator of what is good or bad?

Also like someone else stated when did you take up residence in Prince's head so that u have a direct hook-up to what he thinks and feels. I personally have no idea what Prince's thinking is about money or his art. Only what I can gleem from his interviews and lyrics. Even then prince always leaves room for interpretation. That you have the arrogance to state exactly why Prince does what he does with such conviction without really knowing say something really unpleasant about you.

rwn said:

Tremolina said:

Funny jab. Not. Prince has never been a commercial artist that didn´t care about the quality of his output.

That was one of the great things that set him apart from most other artists. Always real quality music. Now he just sells that all out while sycophants cheer him for it.

That´s sad and depressing. Not just for most of his fans, but also for him and music in general.

And that needs to be said.

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[Edited 10/17/10 13:29pm]

How does the fact that you don't like Prince's current music prove that he doesn't care about it ?

the way he promotes the new material and the lack of doing the new material live could very much be the proof u need

KoolEaze said:

PurpleKnight said:

I'm listening to Splash right now, and I always feel so shocked by the obvious difference in quality between his older and newest tracks. Old Prince would find new Prince appalling.

I´ve asked myself the very same question and also posted it on a couple of threads over the years.

It´s one thing for Prince to have lost the "feel" and the ear for how his music sounds today and how it used to sound, even if he used the very same instruments, but what I don´t get is why some of his longtime bandmembers don´t feel what the fans feel. Seems to me that it´s not because they´re "Yes" men, but because they genuinely believe that the music is great when they´re in the studio and the music is blasting from the loudspeakers.

The same goes for those music journalists and certain fans who first hear his music during a press conference or even in his studio and write about how it is " a return to form" when it´s actually pretty forgettable and bland after a couple of repeated listening sessions.

Really....how would 1985 Prince feel about 2010 Prince´s current output? And shouldn´t Prince himself know best that just using an old Linn drum computer ( or a plug-in Linn sound) does not equal his brilliant ideas and creativity and magic that he used to come up with in the studio in the past?

To be honest, there are a couple of songs on 20Ten that I really like, but some of the songs are so embarrassingly bad that it´s hard to believe that they are composed by the same man who gave us 1999, Purple Rain, Around the World in a Day, Parade, Sign of the Times etc.

Sure, many artists before him lost their spark after a certain point in their career but this is an artist who still delivers great shows with passion and energy but who, despite being a musical genius, genuinely seems to think that his recent use of the old tricks is on par with the masterpieces that he created back in the day.

the passion live could be because his shows now are more greatest hits than new music

L4OATheOriginal said:

rwn said:

How does the fact that you don't like Prince's current music prove that he doesn't care about it ?

the way he promotes the new material and the lack of doing the new material live could very much be the proof u need

1. There are many writers who hate promoting their books. Does that prove they don't care about them ?

2. The majority of people at the concerts want the old music from him. Prince just understands that. It proves nothing at all about Prince liking his current music or not.

tricky99 said:

Tremolina said:

Obviously you can only come up with silly questions as some sort of retort.

Face it man, this song is bad and so is 20ten. Only the fammiest of the fammybots disagree but they would even like it when Prince released a fart.

But he got paid, so he's happy.

Ok let me get this right. Nobody can enjoy this song because you don't enjoy it and consider it a bad song? What are u like 10 years old? U can hate the song and I can love it. That doesn't tell you anything about the song other then we have different opinions. Why insult other fans because they actually like 20ten? When did God make you the arbitrator of what is good or bad?

Also like someone else stated when did you take up residence in Prince's head so that u have a direct hook-up to what he thinks and feels. I personally have no idea what Prince's thinking is about money or his art. Only what I can gleem from his interviews and lyrics. Even then prince always leaves room for interpretation. That you have the arrogance to state exactly why Prince does what he does with such conviction without really knowing say something really unpleasant about you.

Oh shees it's tyricky, the most childish fambot of them all.

Listen here kid: open your eyes and take a good look on these two threads about this new song.

Then come back and tell me how many people like it and how many do not.

I bet you won't come back with that, but just with another hateful retort.

Tremolina said:

tricky99 said:

Ok let me get this right. Nobody can enjoy this song because you don't enjoy it and consider it a bad song? What are u like 10 years old? U can hate the song and I can love it. That doesn't tell you anything about the song other then we have different opinions. Why insult other fans because they actually like 20ten? When did God make you the arbitrator of what is good or bad?

Also like someone else stated when did you take up residence in Prince's head so that u have a direct hook-up to what he thinks and feels. I personally have no idea what Prince's thinking is about money or his art. Only what I can gleem from his interviews and lyrics. Even then prince always leaves room for interpretation. That you have the arrogance to state exactly why Prince does what he does with such conviction without really knowing say something really unpleasant about you.

Oh shees it's tyricky, the most childish fambot of them all.

Listen here kid: open your eyes and take a good look on these two threads about this new song.

Then come back and tell me how many people like it and how many do not.

I bet you won't come back with that, but just with another hateful retort.

What does it matter how many people like or dislike it? None of that effects how I feel about it. I have never taken a poll to determine if I like something or not. If anyone is childish its you. Running around talking about "fambots" and what not how silly. My only point is that you seem to pretend to know things about Prince's state of mind that u can't possibly know. U complain alot but seem to be obsessed with Prince. That is strange behavior.

tricky99 said:

Tremolina said:

Oh shees it's tyricky, the most childish fambot of them all.

Listen here kid: open your eyes and take a good look on these two threads about this new song.

Then come back and tell me how many people like it and how many do not.

I bet you won't come back with that, but just with another hateful retort.

What does it matter how many people like or dislike it? None of that effects how I feel about it. I have never taken a poll to determine if I like something or not. If anyone is childish its you. Running around talking about "fambots" and what not how silly. My only point is that you seem to pretend to know things about Prince's state of mind that u can't possibly know. U complain alot but seem to be obsessed with Prince. That is strange behavior.

It matters because you claimed that I am saying that nobody can enjoy this new song because I can't enjoy it.

You are so wrong on that and you know it.

For the rest, I know you have been on this site for several years and that every post is the same: defend Prince always and attack every critic, ESPECIALLY those who make sense.

Tremolina said:

Tremolina said:

Truth444 said:

With so many "fans" who are totally disgusted with Prine and his new mature music, would you not be willing to make more money if you can? As far as his new music is concerned: If you don't like it, leave it to others who do. Rants and whining by the usual suspects here are not going to stop many of us from continuing to dig Prince.

As far as him making music for money, what do record companies do with these young acts? They push them for a certain sound or image. Remember Dr. Dre used to wear makeup and the balloon pants.

Why do syncophants always think that people who tell the truth on this site are trying to stop them from digging Prince?

Me expressing my opinion has nothing to do with people like you whatsoever. You are not that important. Really.

Nothing like missing the point. And, of course, you are not a second thought to me. Have a nice life.

rwn said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

the way he promotes the new material and the lack of doing the new material live could very much be the proof u need

1. There are many writers who hate promoting their books. Does that prove they don't care about them ?

2. The majority of people at the concerts want the old music from him. Prince just understands that. It proves nothing at all about Prince liking his current music or not.

yes it does. cause if he didn't like it himeself he would perform them more and he simple doesnt

Tremolina said:

rwn said:

How does the fact that you don't like Prince's current music prove that he doesn't care about it ?

Obviously you can only come up with silly questions as some sort of retort.

Face it man, this song is bad and so is 20ten. Only the fammiest of the fammybots disagree but they would even like it when Prince released a fart.

But he got paid, so he's happy.

On the other hand, you have people who love coming here and dissing everything and everyone and expect no one to respond. Your opinions are fine, but do not put down others who think his music is great. It is called having different tastes.

Truth444 said:

Tremolina said:

Obviously you can only come up with silly questions as some sort of retort.

Face it man, this song is bad and so is 20ten. Only the fammiest of the fammybots disagree but they would even like it when Prince released a fart.

But he got paid, so he's happy.

On the other hand, you have people who love coming here and dissing everything and everyone and expect no one to respond. Your opinions are fine, but do not put down others who think his music is great. It is called having different tastes.

Are you first saying have a nice life and then still trying to bait me?

Talk about missing the point...

Heard it once and I am not feeling it yet. Maybe it´ll grow on me as most Prince music did over time.

with the inspiration he's had recently and jumping up and down over janelle's album,

i'd say he's got enough good ideas but he puts them in lame songs.

he's finally got a bag full of new sounds and sounds somewhat searching, using some

new vocal techniques/fx and lots of other studio tricks. great.

but he's sprinkling those things over songs that have a half life of about a week )

when you claim that janelle's album is so good, why not try making song that are in

that vein?

or better yet, hold up, switch off the engine full stop, and listen to some albums that

have actual SONG on them songs with melodies and great, great lyrics. early albums

by stevie wonder, neil young, joni mitchell.

i'd rather hear prince make a grown up album these days. stripped all the way the fck

down and just beautiful songs, simple with gorgeous melodies and truly great lyrics. a

folk album, in essence, but with an r'n'b undertone and just for indulgence's sake some

weird tripped out fx. but not those plastic ones, some good ones. get matmoz or some

guys like marius de vries in or something. geez.

and if he feels he does have to be current, at least strive to make an album that is as

good or surpasses stuff like "the archandroid", "the miseducation" or "the love below",

"voodoo" etc etc.

enough already of these songs that don't fit anywhere and don't hold any appeal beyond

the first two weeks of novelty.

this song reminds me of Glam Slam Escape, I guess Prince used to release songs like this as B Sides, but there are no such thing as b-sides anymore, so ....

IstenSzek said:

with the inspiration he's had recently and jumping up and down over janelle's album,

i'd say he's got enough good ideas but he puts them in lame songs.

he's finally got a bag full of new sounds and sounds somewhat searching, using some

new vocal techniques/fx and lots of other studio tricks. great.

but he's sprinkling those things over songs that have a half life of about a week )

when you claim that janelle's album is so good, why not try making song that are in

that vein?

or better yet, hold up, switch off the engine full stop, and listen to some albums that

have actual SONG on them songs with melodies and great, great lyrics. early albums

by stevie wonder, neil young, joni mitchell.

i'd rather hear prince make a grown up album these days. stripped all the way the fck

down and just beautiful songs, simple with gorgeous melodies and truly great lyrics. a

folk album, in essence, but with an r'n'b undertone and just for indulgence's sake some

weird tripped out fx. but not those plastic ones, some good ones. get matmoz or some

guys like marius de vries in or something. geez.

and if he feels he does have to be current, at least strive to make an album that is as

good or surpasses stuff like "the archandroid", "the miseducation" or "the love below",

"voodoo" etc etc.

enough already of these songs that don't fit anywhere and don't hold any appeal beyond

the first two weeks of novelty.

Well, ya know, that's the truth. I think that's one of the reasons I was so into his Rainbow Children/ONA/NEWS period. Despite my disagreement with most of his religious beliefs, the music was organic and he was uncompromising in his beliefs! I don't need Prince to tell me to go to church but if the music is lovely and emotional and organic I'll enjoy it thoroughly.

IstenSzek said:

with the inspiration he's had recently and jumping up and down over janelle's album,

i'd say he's got enough good ideas but he puts them in lame songs.

he's finally got a bag full of new sounds and sounds somewhat searching, using some

new vocal techniques/fx and lots of other studio tricks. great.

but he's sprinkling those things over songs that have a half life of about a week )

when you claim that janelle's album is so good, why not try making song that are in

that vein?

or better yet, hold up, switch off the engine full stop, and listen to some albums that

have actual SONG on them songs with melodies and great, great lyrics. early albums

by stevie wonder, neil young, joni mitchell.

i'd rather hear prince make a grown up album these days. stripped all the way the fck

down and just beautiful songs, simple with gorgeous melodies and truly great lyrics. a

folk album, in essence, but with an r'n'b undertone and just for indulgence's sake some

weird tripped out fx. but not those plastic ones, some good ones. get matmoz or some

guys like marius de vries in or something. geez.

and if he feels he does have to be current, at least strive to make an album that is as

good or surpasses stuff like "the archandroid", "the miseducation" or "the love below",

"voodoo" etc etc.

enough already of these songs that don't fit anywhere and don't hold any appeal beyond

the first two weeks of novelty.

why do you keep wishing what he would make

Tremolina said:

robinhood said:

sure ok. do you live inside prince's head?

Excuse me but you are the one who is imagining how he must feel and how hard life must be for him. You constantly blame me doing things you do yourself because it hurts to let the truth sink in.

not at all - if you'd understood my original post to you - you'd know i already agree with you - but you missed that part - cuz you were more focussed on my critique of your approach

i suggested compassion and understanding instead of derision - but if derision is your true nature then so be it.

guess all i can say to you at this point is - if you dont like prince's ego - check ur own.

ur opinion of him isnt automatically fact and neither is anyone else's - including mine.

money talks and bullshit walks - but whether that is what prince has become - we dont know for sure.

he's doing a mini tour right now - lots of people are going to see him perform - because they love and enjoy his music - and yeah he's getting paid - more than what you earn in a year.

what are you doing today?

Tremolina said:

IstenSzek said:

with the inspiration he's had recently and jumping up and down over janelle's album,

i'd say he's got enough good ideas but he puts them in lame songs.

he's finally got a bag full of new sounds and sounds somewhat searching, using some

new vocal techniques/fx and lots of other studio tricks. great.

but he's sprinkling those things over songs that have a half life of about a week )

when you claim that janelle's album is so good, why not try making song that are in

that vein?

or better yet, hold up, switch off the engine full stop, and listen to some albums that

have actual SONG on them songs with melodies and great, great lyrics. early albums

by stevie wonder, neil young, joni mitchell.

i'd rather hear prince make a grown up album these days. stripped all the way the fck

down and just beautiful songs, simple with gorgeous melodies and truly great lyrics. a

folk album, in essence, but with an r'n'b undertone and just for indulgence's sake some

weird tripped out fx. but not those plastic ones, some good ones. get matmoz or some

guys like marius de vries in or something. geez.

and if he feels he does have to be current, at least strive to make an album that is as

good or surpasses stuff like "the archandroid", "the miseducation" or "the love below",

"voodoo" etc etc.

enough already of these songs that don't fit anywhere and don't hold any appeal beyond

the first two weeks of novelty.

why do you keep wishing what he would make

because i don't want to give up just yet

i'm still interested in his music and his new music is always, at the very least entertaining.

plus, every prince album is worthy of multiple spins, even those few that i absolutely can't

stand (musicology/planet earth).

and whilst i listen to his patchy recent releases, i keep my fingers crossed for something a

bit more honest, real and perhaps 'fitting' for prince. he seems stuck in a rut, a bad one.

me? perhaps i'm stuck in a repetitive groove too, on this subject, but hey, it's a discussion

board and i just say what i think he should do.

daPrettyman said:

Is it me, or has Prince finally figured out how to slow down piracy and make you anticipate a new album? The site must be being hit pretty hard, I'm having to hear it in bits and pieces.

He could have done it a long time ago by making outtakes and live shows available for purchase. I'm sure mopst of us here would line up to buy things from him as opposed to a bootlegger or a download but he's blown that oppotunity.

IstenSzek said:

Tremolina said:

why do you keep wishing what he would make

because i don't want to give up just yet

i'm still interested in his music and his new music is always, at the very least entertaining.

plus, every prince album is worthy of multiple spins, even those few that i absolutely can't

stand (musicology/planet earth).

and whilst i listen to his patchy recent releases, i keep my fingers crossed for something a

bit more honest, real and perhaps 'fitting' for prince. he seems stuck in a rut, a bad one.

me? perhaps i'm stuck in a repetitive groove too, on this subject, but hey, it's a discussion

board and i just say what i think he should do.

I am sorry if that came across as saying you should not post that.

robinhood said:

Tremolina said:

Excuse me but you are the one who is imagining how he must feel and how hard life must be for him. You constantly blame me doing things you do yourself because it hurts to let the truth sink in.

not at all - if you'd understood my original post to you - you'd know i already agree with you - but you missed that part - cuz you were more focussed on my critique of your approach

i suggested compassion and understanding instead of derision - but if derision is your true nature then so be it.

guess all i can say to you at this point is - if you dont like prince's ego - check ur own.

ur opinion of him isnt automatically fact and neither is anyone else's - including mine.

money talks and bullshit walks - but whether that is what prince has become - we dont know for sure.

he's doing a mini tour right now - lots of people are going to see him perform - because they love and enjoy his music - and yeah he's getting paid - more than what you earn in a year.

what are you doing today?

My true nature is not derision.

When I feel it's needed I can be derisive tho', I will give you that.

But I can be compassionate and understanding too.

It all depends on the circumstances.

If you feel compassion and understanding is what is needed now in our discussion as well as towards Prince, then this should come from both, all sides.

To you personally that means that you shouldn't blame me for things like 'slander', when I have not posted anyhting like that. That's not a fair judgement, nor is it staying objective in this debate. It's a personal attack rather.

As for Prince. When I listen to his new work, even including the new song 'Compassion' I really don't hear that. I don't hear no soul, no true emotion in it. What I do hear tho' more and more, is an artist reacting to his fans. And it's mostly not positive, as in songs like No more candy and PFunk. Actually rather derisive itself, as well as arrogant, pompeous and contemptuous. You can hear it too in Rich Friends and some songs on 20ten like Everybody loves me.

It's that bloated ego, which you can blame me for having too, but that's then another personal assessment of me, instaed of the topic that we are discussing.

What I have been saying all along in this thread is that it has become apparant that Prince values money and that ego more than putting really great art out. The art has become the gimmick, not the price itself, like Threadbare said.

That's the way it is now and I wish it wasn't. It's sad.

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[Edited 10/19/10 8:09am]

Tremolina said:

Truth444 said:

On the other hand, you have people who love coming here and dissing everything and everyone and expect no one to respond. Your opinions are fine, but do not put down others who think his music is great. It is called having different tastes.

Are you first saying have a nice life and then still trying to bait me?

Talk about missing the point...

Nah... of course not. I don't bait those who are truely fishermen themselves.

Tremolina said:

robinhood said:

not at all - if you'd understood my original post to you - you'd know i already agree with you - but you missed that part - cuz you were more focussed on my critique of your approach

i suggested compassion and understanding instead of derision - but if derision is your true nature then so be it.

guess all i can say to you at this point is - if you dont like prince's ego - check ur own.

ur opinion of him isnt automatically fact and neither is anyone else's - including mine.

money talks and bullshit walks - but whether that is what prince has become - we dont know for sure.

he's doing a mini tour right now - lots of people are going to see him perform - because they love and enjoy his music - and yeah he's getting paid - more than what you earn in a year.

what are you doing today?

My true nature is not derision.

When I feel it's needed I can be derisive tho', I will give you that.

But I can be compassionate and understanding too.

It all depends on the circumstances.

If you feel compassion and understanding is what is needed now in our discussion as well as towards Prince, then this should come from both, all sides.

To you personally that means that you shouldn't blame me for things like 'slander', when I have not posted anyhting like that. That's not a fair judgement, nor is it staying objective in this debate. It's a personal attack rather.

As for Prince. When I listen to his new work, even including the new song 'Compassion' I really don't hear that. I don't hear no soul, no true emotion in it. What I do hear tho' more and more, is an artist reacting to his fans. And it's mostly not positive, as in songs like No more candy and PFunk. Actually rather derisive itself, as well as arrogant, pompeous and contemptuous. You can hear it too in Rich Friends and some songs on 20ten like Everybody loves me.

It's that bloated ego, which you can blame me for having too, but that's then another personal assessment of me, instaed of the topic that we are discussing.

What I have been saying all along in this thread is that it has become apparant that Prince values money and that ego more than putting really great art out. The art has become the gimmick, not the price itself, like Threadbare said.

That's the way it is now and I wish it wasn't. It's sad.

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[Edited 10/19/10 8:09am]

But you really don't know what Prince motives are. U keep stating these things as if they are facts when they aren't. Is Prince's ego any more "bloated" then its always been? Or did you overlook his ego when you were enjoying the music?

Prince shouldn't need to bare his soul to you. And its not your place to ask or expect him too. Many of us are still interested in what he has to say. U seem to have taken an antaginistic (sp) approach to your "relationship" with Prince. That is apparent by name-checking those particular songs which you seem to feel are aimed at his fans. Aren't you taking the messages of those songs kind of personally?

Prince has written many songs in the past few years yet its those two that u named that seem to be your focus. Maybe you are not really listening to Prince anymore since you seem to view him as a rival instead of a musician to enjoy.

Instead of harping on how Prince is leading his life wouldn't you be better going and leading your own without expecting Prince's life to conform to some mythical life that you are holding on too? Prince is just a talented person not the second coming of jesus. He seems to be fairly content with his life and music. And if that music doesn't move u why not move on instead of being mad?

So you are telling me that I shouldn't worry about Prince's life but my own, yet you worry about me and engage me again to tell me to sot off? You think you are being 'positive' now?

My God... the contradictions.

Look here tricky, you should stop worrying about me and not put words into my mouth. I am not worrying about Prince's life. I am just saddened that he doesn't value putting quality music out there above money and ego anymore. You love it that he is like that now? Cool. You just care about being a sycophant that spends his time scrolling the org for fans to hate on? Cool. Doesn't change one bit of the fact that the quality is gone for the sake of money and ego and that I have every right to say that.

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[Edited 10/19/10 11:33am]

Tremolina said:

So you are telling me that I shouldn't worry about Prince's life but my own, yet you worry about me and engage me again to tell me to sot off? You think you are being 'positive' now?

My God... the contradictions.

Look here tricky, you should stop worrying about me and not put words into my mouth. I am not worrying about Prince's life. I am just saddened that he doesn't value putting quality music out there above money and ego anymore. You love it that he is like that now? Cool. You just care about being a sycophant that spends his time scrolling the org for fans to hate on? Cool. Doesn't change one bit of the fact that the quality is gone for the sake of money and ego and that I have every right to say that.

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[Edited 10/19/10 11:33am]

Ha! Who said I hated you? You are the one calling people "fambots" and "sycophants". I guess the defintion of those words is anybody who is not disapointed in Prince like you are. Don't you think that is rather childish? How is it that u know Prince doesn't value the quality of his music?

What arrogance u have to make that assumtion and spew it as facts. Common sense tells us that Prince would not release it if he didn't like it. Isn't that all we can expect? U are not the arbitrator of what qualifies as quality music. Its only your "bloated ego" that allows you think that your opinion trumps the so-called "fambots'.

You really have no idea what prince's financial situaion is. yet you assume to know its about the money. So was it about the money in 1978? how about 1993? when exactly did it become about the money? You keep yelling about "ego" and "money" and lack of quality but here u sit waiting patiently for every sound that emantes from Prince. What do you expect to change? Are you just going to moan until either he or you are in the grave? When exactly was the last time Prince created something of "quality"?

tricky99 said:

Ha! Who said I hated you?

I didn't say that you hated me. You love to hate on fans tho'. That's for sure. That's all you do in here.

manci said:

http://www.ktu.com/iplayl...tist/5182/

IF YOU NEED COMPASION,

GO BACK IN YOUR LIITLE WORLD ,WITH SKYSCRAPERS FOR TOURISTS

THE MELODIES CAN YOU FIND ON THE RADIO ,

(THE HOLLY MAN = THE OTHER HOLLY MAN WITH HIS TRIKS BOX)

YOU HAVE ALL YOU HEED MY DEAR FRIEND.

LORILA said:

manci said:

http://www.ktu.com/iplayl...tist/5182/

IF YOU NEED COMPASION,

GO BACK IN YOUR LIITLE WORLD ,WITH SKYSCRAPERS FOR TOURISTS

THE MELODIES CAN YOU FIND ON THE RADIO ,

(THE HOLLY MAN = THE OTHER HOLLY MAN WITH HIS TRIKS BOX)

YOU HAVE ALL YOU HEED MY DEAR FRIEND.

Finally, someone on the org who talks sense.