Tremolina said:

3chainsofgold said:

Blah...Blah...Blah. Boring filler music. Man I used to love hearing a new Prince tune. Now I just get a little depressed.

This ain't no Get Off, When Doves Cry, Little Red Corvette, Kiss, Rasberry Beret or even 7...just to name a few oldies.

I can relate. This new track isn't even that bad, but yesterday night I listened to 20ten for the first time and I think it didn't take me even 20:10 minutes to get through it. Wow, that's really bad and I am not saying this just to get nasty. 20 ten sounds like some kid playing with his guitar and synthezisers in his basement trying to sound like Prince but fucking it up completely.

He really doesn't seem to care what he puts his name under anymore and yeah that's depressing.

HOWEVER when I got the track "Everybody loves me" it hit me. The guy is really just joking, messing around with us, looking to give us a good laugh. This song is so incredibly childish; its composition, production and its lyrics, it's just a total laugh. And I laughed and laughed and laughed. I really couldn't stop laughing.

So I had a great time actually listening to 20ten, however short and depressing it first was.

I kinda got the same notion actually.

Prince does this alot, and I swears he's just been fucking around...

He does this a lot...

cause lets face it, the albums aren't all bad, your usually able to find 1 to 3 songs that are pretty damn good.

so maybe he's just having a laugh...

interesting...

EmbattledWarrior said:

Tremolina said:

I can relate. This new track isn't even that bad, but yesterday night I listened to 20ten for the first time and I think it didn't take me even 20:10 minutes to get through it. Wow, that's really bad and I am not saying this just to get nasty. 20 ten sounds like some kid playing with his guitar and synthezisers in his basement trying to sound like Prince but fucking it up completely.

He really doesn't seem to care what he puts his name under anymore and yeah that's depressing.

HOWEVER when I got the track "Everybody loves me" it hit me. The guy is really just joking, messing around with us, looking to give us a good laugh. This song is so incredibly childish; its composition, production and its lyrics, it's just a total laugh. And I laughed and laughed and laughed. I really couldn't stop laughing.

So I had a great time actually listening to 20ten, however short and depressing it first was.

I kinda got the same notion actually.

Prince does this alot, and I swears he's just been fucking around...

He does this a lot...

cause lets face it, the albums aren't all bad, your usually able to find 1 to 3 songs that are pretty damn good.

so maybe he's just having a laugh...

interesting...

I've thought the same thing several times also. He knows we're still going to buy it, analyze it, worship it, so he puts out whatever filler crap he throws together in his basement and laughs at us about how we'll eat it up anyway. Don't get me wrong, I think it's comical, and I still love him. I really enjoyed the LotuFlor3r and mplsound Discs overall, but the only song I thought he put any real genius thought into on 20ten was Laydown... And I am really not a fan of this new song, it seems comical.

is the song getting airplay in new york or elsewhere?

trickster said:

is the song getting airplay in new york or elsewhere?

I heard controversy today on an NYC station, but haven't heard Rich Friends yet...

Chiquetet said:

robinhood said:

maybe all we have to do is be content to accept that he cannot be understood, that life goes on, that his music will be whatever he wants it to be, and all he really needed from 'the world' was unconditional love.

maybe thats the test. can you accept him unconditionally?

"if you set ur mind free, baby, maybe you'd understand"

That one's dedicated 2 all the lovers

That was beautiful

This one's dedicated 2 the whores

What you just...

robinhood said:

please forgive my sarcasm, but i think he's definitely better off listening to his yes-people and silly girlfriends who offer 24-7 support propping up and maintaining his illusory bubble world.

he's comfortable in that bubble, he wouldnt dare consider common sense when limosines and cameras are calling his name. there'll never another like me me me me me.

its all about the place to be you see, what to wear and who to be seen with. these are vital considerations on this tiny spek of dirt called planet earth.

prince and reality just dont mix, just like music and money dont mix. better for him to remain as isolated and psychologically fractured as possible. it doesnt matter anyway. we're on tour baby! yeah!

shopping anyone? late night rendezvous in the back seat of my limo? do you like my suit? i'm on fire baby!

safe to say my compassion only extends so far. bullshit, i cant tolerate.

Quite frankly, I don't know who's the bigger enigma, Locksley

Yes, that's basically two ways of looking at the same coin.

To robin: Prince living in a bubble for 30 years and being psychologically fractured, as you put it, may be the case, but then I would be assuming things about him personally that I know nothing of wouldn't I? I just got attacked for doing that by a couple of people in here, but it seems it's okay when you do it.

30 years in a bubble is itself already reason enough to snap out of it for a change. Why would this be any reason for him to feel good? If this leads him to release more and more subpar music? How is this good for "music lovers", for the evolution of music itself?

I agree that Prince has made so much great music and of course he can really do whatever he wants to. I also agree that it can't be "easy" for him to change his thought patterns, his lifestyle and his outlook on the world.

However, I also feel that if music is Prince's GOD GIVEN TALENT then, in my opion, he has a whole lot of that talent and that he should not be LAZY with it, nor use that GIFT just to make a quick buck to finance his sometimes absurd lifestyle, nor to write songs that are only about his ego. Anybody can change their ways when they really want to.

Explore that talent as far and as deep as possible, treasure it, nurture it and SHARE it with the world as much as possible. Prince did that for many years and hell yeah, he should be thanked for all the great music that came out of that. But I don't think that's any reason whatsoever to sit back now and pretend it's all so good now when it's really not all that good.

There is a whole world out there, of music and other cultures that he hasn't explored yet. There is an endless well of inspiration to find. All it takes is snapping out of that bubble no?

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[Edited 10/22/10 6:27am]

I absolutely love the song, as I did with Hot Summer and 20Ten. I don't care who doesn't like it. They don't have to. Those looking for the old sounds Prince did in the eighties or the dirtier lyrics won't like his new funk. For those of us who have learned to change with the Prince tides will always enjoy his music. Of course, with all of his cd's since the beginning, there will be songs we do like better. Prince has not lost anything. He may have chosen not to do the same old same old all the time, which can understandably cause some "fans" to be upset, but that's what the true funk soldiers understand... each tune is different and unique. Prince has been around a long, long time and I find him as fascinating today as I did when I first heard "Still Waiting".

On a personal note, I have been caught up in other's opinions in a negative way. I understand that it is only their opinion. Heck, these people who say they totally hate some of his new music could be someone I would love to jam with or just have coffee with. It is unfortunate that I have been caught up in such a tempting, hateful web of trying to tell other people that they are wrong for disliking his music, or some of his music. For that, I am sorry to anyone that I offended. This is and should be a place for Prince fans to have fun... not to argue and bitch at each other. There is enough crap going on in the U.S. right now to bring us down. Economy, more job loss, no change we were promised, etc. We just have to be thankful that at Prince's age he has not stopped making music. Even if you find his music doesn't shake your money maker like back in the day, it is still better than 99.9 % of anything else on the radio. I see videos now that leave me shaking my head and asking WTF?

Have a Purple day, wherever you are. Hopefully Prince will find U a tune that pleases you.

Tremolina said:

Anybody can change their ways when they really want to.

some people cant. prince might be one of them. do you remember the movie the shawshank redemption? there was an old guy in it who had been in prison for something like 50 years.

when he was released, he hung himself, because he couldnt adapt to the outside world. he was too old, and the prison had become his home. he was institutionalized.

imo, prince is comfortable in his box. take it away, and he wont know how to relate to the world, or even be able to function in it properly.

the prison is not only a physical construct, it happens to the mind as well. the psyche becomes conditioned to living in those 'four walls'.

is it possible for prince to reverse 30 years of warped alternate reality conditioning? maybe. only time will tell, but i dont see him caring for it too much.

his mindset tells him he gets what he wants when he wants it. why change that? why go see a shrink when yes-people treat you like ur sane?

why tap back in to pure creative energy when you've done that already, to the extreme, and you can still sell records simply because of 'who you are', no matter what music you make ?

he has no incentive to be anywhere other than where he is, in his lifestyle, and in his head.

its just something you have to accept trem, ur not doing ur health any good by concerning urself with where he is at. why waste your time?

my sarcastic comments were to make a point, that point being: he will go wherever the applause is.

he doesnt care if the applause comes from his yes-people, his concert audience, his girlfriends or his fans. he will go there. he runs to it like shelter.

when things dont go the way he wants them to in his personal life, and when he is in situations which ask him to look at himself, he runs back on to the stage where 'everybody loves me'.

some people arent cut out for facing themselves trem. all they can come up with is defenses, excuses and blame.

he's quite childlike in that regard. let him be 12. feed the dog a bone. scratch his belly. getting upset over someone else's insanity, is insane. thats what i'm talkin about.

That's not a pretty picture you are painting there robin. Much less prettier than I even tried to present it. And very personal too. But I am alright with that, we have gone on that road already.

Let's just suppose what you say is basically true. Let's assume he in fact doesn't just live in a "VIP" bubble, but actually in some sort of mind prison, where the only way he can function is to be falsely "adored" by yes men, sycophants and gold diggers. A false world where he can run to the stage, whenever he feels bad, because there "everybody loves him". Or he could call the next music broker to pay him another million, to fullfill all his material desires. Desperately trying to fill that hole in his heart too, but failing every time more miserable than the last.

What kind of empty, lonely, unfulfilling, uninspiring and outright depressing existence is that robin? Why would he even want to live that kind of life and NEVER EVER SNAP OUT OF IT? You know, I know, everybody in here knows, that Prince may be "psychologically fractured", but he is not backwards, nor completely ignorant of "normal life", nor a coward who is afraid of new things and always sticks to the same old.

So why exactly do you ask me now, and thereby basically anybody else in here, to just sit back, watch and don't say anything when the forces of self destruction seem to be nearing in on him to put the final nail in there? Isn't it destructive what he has been doing for the last decades? Warring against his long time record company, against his band members, against his women, against his fans, against so many more people, including himself? The man even pronounced himself DEAD.

Doesn't Prince himself slowly but surely destroy all creativity that is in the man? What we are talking about here started somewhere in the 80's around Purple Rain: the destructive force of too much money and fame. Too much ego and a nasty addiction to always get whatever you want whenever you want it.

Whenever it exactly started I don't know, but I tell you this: by all means the deal with the devil was sealed, locked and finished when he signed that infamous 100 million contract. You can see it in all his work from that moment on: there was no more turning back from the money and ego game and it has only gotten worse over the years. Maybe that's why he fought it, but he never fought the underlying motives for singing that deal in the 1st place. Weren't those precisely money and ego?

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[Edited 10/22/10 17:50pm]

robinhood said:

almost as bad as Hot Summer.....

Vict0r said:

I don't care much for the lyrics but the song's not bad.

Could be a decent song--needs work--especially on instrumentation and arrangements...IMO

robinhood said:

Tremolina said:

Robin, I hear you too. I express my thoughts sharply, but they are not ill intended. On the contray even. I am simply a person that once was truly moved by the musical greatness of this artist. Now I am truly moved that it seems to be gone and I just want to express that.

As a long time fan I was there at the beginning of "the dawn". I experienced the Crystal ball and 1-800 NEW FUNK dramas, the fansite and fanmagazine lawsuits, the "love4oneanother" and "join the collective" phase and the controversial release of the Rainbow Children. I joined the first 2 years of the club, but year 2 ended in a fiasco. After that, I didn't join anymore but just watched how more and more fans were scared off with every new inception of his ideas of "freedom" and how to form a "fan community" on the web. When lotusflower was suddenly pulled after 6 months of no new material and "the internet dead", whose fault was it?

Layitdown is track no 77 on 20ten. It has the only really strong beat on the album, but is obivously only put there as a reference to the 77$ paid by thousands of his fans that expected some more for that kind of buck by the self proclaimed "Purple Yoda from the heart of Minnesota". An artist, that feels good about himself and his actions, doesn't reacts like that to his fans. Even when he strongly disagrees with their complaints and the tone used against him. Nopr does he do things like release an obligatory 4th album called C-note, nor "Xpectations" instead of the original "Xenophobia". Nor songs with anti fan themes like No more Candy and PFUNK.

There isn't any other artist out there, to my knowledge, that does these kinds of things. That uses his talent, his livelihood, his music, for such destructive matters of the ego.

This moves me because Prince is such a great musical talent. He may even be one of the few really great ever. His talent should not be wasted on ego centric songs used to battle his fans, that in the end have always supported him for so many years. Nor should it be flushed down the toilet with a quickly produced album of some scraped together songs, just to get a million dollar for it from some newspaper.

His talent deserves better. He deserves better. His fans deserve better. Music itself deserves better.

lets have a look at prince's public image. some might say its a false image which does not reflect his true identity. some might say the public prince does indeed bleed certain aspects of his real nature.

might be fair to assume the man behind the make-up is just a guy with his own demons, like the rest of us,

except his life has been mostly lived in the public eye, constantly scrutinized on the one hand, and hailed as god of the music kingdom on the other.

we've followed most of his career, some have been here from the start, literally buying into the illusion he created himself to be.

a short kind of fugly mischief making man who knew what to do to get attention and make his career work.

make-up, outrageous clothing, explicit songs about sex and heaven, god and the devil, murder and rape, vicitmization and triumph,

an anxiety-ridden genius finding moments of obsessive pleasure between the sheets, and his dreams of a love-filled paradise. "love me. love me."

a psychologically violent man, a gentle man, a patient man, a tempestuous man, an ignorant man, a wise man, a punk and an angel, a pure heart, a dark mind, worshipping flowers and nightclubs at the same time.

we buy into all this confusion, these contradictions, then wonder why he doesnt make sense, why his actions dont match his words, why he is aware of all his own rights, but oblivious to anyone else's.

point is, we buy into the artistic image he has created and we pin our hopes on it.

we hope he'll deliver the dawn, the promised land, the website of the century, the ultimate romance, the dirtiest sexual high, the lyric to end all other lyrics, the album to blitz them all...

we buy into it because he sounded convincing, we believed him, we believed the image was real, but logically, how is it possible for one man to deliver all the things he says he will?

he wrote a lot of songs that showed his wisdom, we took that and we assumed he was a guru, a prophet, a leader. people around him bought into it to and fed into his image of being 'the most high'. he believed it too.

he talked about the dawn, we bought into it and expected to see the sun shine out from his ass on a regular basis, then got disappointed when it didnt happen.

musically, we naively expected that a human being could continue to create works of gold until his dying day, oblivious to the reality of what it is to be human, not god, not a god, but just a human.

he's 52. he wears a mask. he wears a costume. he makes music. he creates worlds according to his own experiences and perspective.

he buckles under the pressure of his self-chosen life and lashes out at people from time to time. he has secrets. he has his own skeletons. there are things he doesnt want anyone to know about.

he took his crappy childhood and made it into something worthwhile. he took his warped human nature and poured it into his music, with extreme dedication and conviction, which is amazing for someone so lazy.

he made this thing work for 30 years. thats a long time to keep pushing the envelope. eventually it falls off the table and someone has to go pick it up so he can keep pushing it some more.

this man has an inexhaustible amount of energy, he is a constant series of reactions, pro-actions, negations, revelations, masturbations, denegrations and consummations.

step back. let him be. watch. whatever disappointment we might feel is our own responsibility.

he may have led us up the garden path believing in the romantic notion that the peak of his genius might last forever, but grown-ups dont believe that.

he's not santa. he doesnt come every christmas. but thats no reason for us to sulk because we didnt get a better present than last year.

maybe all we have to do is be content to accept that he cannot be understood, that life goes on, that his music will be whatever he wants it to be, and all he really needed from 'the world' was unconditional love.

maybe thats the test. can you accept him unconditionally?

"if you set ur mind free, baby, maybe you'd understand"

Tremolina said:

What kind of empty, lonely, unfulfilling, uninspiring and outright depressing existence is that robin?

exactly.

Tremolina said:

Why would he even want to live that kind of life and NEVER EVER SNAP OUT OF IT?

millions of people, all around the world, lead empty, lonely, uninspiring and outright depressing lives.

and look at all the things they do to distract themselves from venturing into the dark cave of their own helplessness.

money, sex, drugs, entertainment, food, jobs, social soirees, obssessing over the lives of celebrities etc..

escapism isnt just a word we throw around to laugh off our misery, it is a spiritual malignancy.

come be delighted by all the pleasures your five senses can bring. let them lead you further and further away from the peaceful silence of your true nature.

lets be abducted by everything external. the more distance we create between our essence and our flights of fancy, the longer the return path home.

venture as far as we possibly can into alternate realities, engage in futile and emotionally draining relationships, argue about politics with such authority we may as well be president,

vocalize our vain opinions on religion, piss in the wind around candlelit tables to the tune of alcohol and the empty promise of being truly understood by our 'friends'.

out we go, up up and away to the bitter-sweet paradise of physical gratifications, ego-boosts and the naive assumption that yes, we're having a throughly great time.

plonk. oops. did i just live a lie? was it a dream? who am i? whats it all for? is there something wrong with me? why do i suddenly feel so empty, lonely, uninspired and outright depressed?

i need a sleeping tablet. i hate it when i cant sleep. why cant i sleep? i dont even like those people. what am i doing? i want to kill myself. i cant stand it any longer.

no wait, tomorrow everything will be ok, if i can just get the still small voice within to be quiet, that way i wont have to SNAP OUT OF IT.

trem, layer upon layer, we pile upon ourselves, the layers of the world, of physical distraction, to the point where we think its all worth it, and none of our real, deep, inner needs EVER get met.

we try so many substitutes for love, for wholeness, for peace. they work temporarily, and when the effects wear off, we're back off to doing the same things all over again. anything to escape the utter terror of turning within.

turning within? whats this nonsense? this some new age shit? i love my life! I'M GREAT. i'm so into all my distractions, surely they must be real. i'm too smart to not know the ucking difference.

you spent a day in MY shoes? i'll live my life the way i want to! go preach on someone else's street corner. ur crazee. YOU DONT REALLY KNOW ME YOU JUST THINK YOU DO. badabing!

and on and on it goes. the silly little battle between our external self, (our ego self), and the delicate innocence of our true internal nature. we must not let our true nature win over the ego.

ego is supreme commander of this human being. EYE am in charge! how dare anyone suggest that i am anything less than supreme.

but i... but cant i... but what about... HUSH! I AM EGO. you will obey my every command.

and the still small voice within is silenced once again.

trem i dont even know if this post has anything to do with prince, but it might be safe to say that the issue of 'snapping out of it' is a global issue.

if prince needs to 'snap out of it', then so what? he's no different to a lot of other people in that regard, and even though he may appear to be the leader of the league of evil excess, its not really any of our concern, ultimately.

anyway, i think i'm starting to understand this song 'rich friends' a bit more.

Robin Hood stole from the 'rich', what they took from the 'poor', and gave it back to the 'poor'.

who needs money, when you've got rich friends?

off topic - how did Prince have a crappy childhood? I just don't see it, but somebody always has it worst so it can go on and on I guess.

robinhood said:

thanks for the link. not sure what to say. the music is classic prince '20ten' style, the lyrics i'm not sure what he's saying.

ich weiss Paula, aber man muss konkret was tun

was ist dein Vorschlag

LORILA said:

robinhood said:

thanks for the link. not sure what to say. the music is classic prince '20ten' style, the lyrics i'm not sure what he's saying.

ich weiss Paula, aber man muss konkret was tun

was ist dein Vorschlag

not sure who Paula is, but here's what i propose: put money in its proper context > it kills people. its been killing people for as long as its been around.

people say religion kills people. people say the medical profession kills people. politics kill people. have a look at what is behind religion and the medical profession and politics. money.

people say corporations kill people. everything from suicide from stress at work to mafia hits. whats behind it all? money.

money kills. it kills and kills and kills. everything from self-respect and friendship, to people and our planet.

its easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven on earth.

stock up on the riches you CAN take with you, like love, mercy, gratitude, sweetness, gentleness, humility, grace, honor, ethics. their value is worth more than gold.

who needs money when you've got 'rich' friends?

rich = spiritually wealthy.

"the issue of 'snapping out of it' is a global issue"

nicely said


"millions of people, all around the world, lead empty, lonely, uninspiring and outright depressing lives."

Yes, me too. I'm glad to hear I'm not alone on that one. That's consoling.


"and look at all the things they do to distract themselves from venturing into the dark cave of their own helplessness."

I distract myself with listening to Prince music. And praying 4 a concert.


"out we go, up up and away to the bitter-sweet paradise of physical gratifications, ego-boosts and the naive assumption that yes, we're having a throughly great time."

Unfortunately I don't experience that feeling of having a good time that often.Neither the rest you mention.


"plonk. oops. did i just live a lie? was it a dream? who am i? whats it all for? is there something wrong with me? why do i suddenly feel so empty, lonely, uninspired and outright depressed?"

Yep. Only it's never sudden with me, I sort of feel like that constantly, for as long as I can remember actually.

"i need a sleeping tablet. i hate it when i cant sleep. why cant i sleep? i dont even like those people. what am i doing? i want to kill myself. i cant stand it any longer."

Fortunately I picked up my sleeping tablets this afternoon with the farmacy. Would love to kill myself, however I would never do that to my parents, family nor friends. So, you know, I'll just stay alive.

"no wait, tomorrow everything will be ok, if i can just get the still small voice within to be quiet, that way i wont have to SNAP OUT OF IT."

I never think that. I realize tomorrow will be just another day in paradise or hell, whatever label you prefer.

"layer upon layer, we pile upon ourselves, the layers of the world, of physical distraction, to the point where we think its all worth it, and none of our real, deep, inner needs EVER get met."

Well, I never think it's worth it. I absolutely can't think of good reason why living is worth it. Accept the reason just mentioned: be there for the people who love me and therefore need me.

"we try so many substitutes for love, for wholeness, for peace. they work temporarily, and when the effects wear off, we're back off to doing the same things all over again. anything to escape the utter terror of turning within."

I'm turning within so often that it makes me sick. Really, have enough of it. Some distraction would be great. Where's the peace? Do you know? Have you found it? Please tell me where to find it.

And also tell me why we'r all entitled to complain so much about anything P does. And for that matter, of anybody who thinks different on any subject than you?

P's concert in Werchter last summer was enigmatic for me. The atmosphere felt extraordinary, my spirits were lifted. Those moments I feel peacefull and I cherish it.

I like my Prince music as a distraction of my inner self.....

Can't imagine that you all have that great inner selves that you want to be focused on it all the time?

I get depressed by the suffering of people, animals and nature around the world.

I get positively sentimental when I think of all these people around the world enjoying the same music of Prince (or Madonna, or any other band for that matter), seeking consolement and inspiration in music.

It makes me sad that so many people are convinced they are right and in their rightiousness offend, attack, degrade or even kill other people. Just as Anakin was rightious and convinced himself he was doing the right thing and was oblivious to his harmfull actions.

Just like all of us; the Jews and Palestines, the Islam fanatics vs atheists, man vs woman, pale vs colored skinned, abused children vs denying adults, exploited (child) labors vs blinbling wearing show offs, abused diamond digging children in the mines of Africa vs perverse stars showing of their diamond jewelry, enthousiastic prince fans vs dissapointed prince fans, tea party vs democrats, the great Chinese leaders vs Liu Xiaobo, economic refugees vs violently protective natives, victims of war vs initiators of war....and so on.

No one knows what is the right way, we can only try not to hurt anybody by not doing to them what you don't want to be inflicted by yourself. Don't say or judge in a way you don't want to be judged.

Therefore, I don't think ventilating all that negativity on Prince his songs is very constructive for anybody. I appreciate P's voice on "rich friends", to me the lyrics sound bitter, dissapointed and emotionally blank. However, that might just be the mood I'm in. I long for listening to "the grind" or "solo" . I also like "style" allthough lyrics to me sound bitter, shallow and powerless. Just as I feel

Well, so much for my positive and constructive contribution to world and inner peace.

Have purple good time, and let's try to at least be nice to eachother.

Cheerio

dJJ said:

Where's the peace? Do you know? Have you found it?

i went thru several different kinds of excruciating hells to get to where i am. i lived several different kinds of excruciating lives in one life time to get to where i am.

listen: most people suck. the world sucks. but when you realize that everyone else out there is going through hell too, it helps to change your perspective.

i spent most of my life putting up with shit from people, really asshole people, liars, fakes, frauds, people who deceive, abuse, denegrade and belittle.

arrogant asses who are so blind to all their own faults. spiritual fakers who talk loud about all their beliefs and deceive people in the very next breath. users who walk over anyone to get what they want.

liars who pose in public pretending to be something they are not, mocking other people, using other people, hearts of stone with no conscience whatsoever.

all those utter asses of people are living in hell too. they have a pain so deep they dont even know its there and they are mostly too cowardly to bother to even ask the right questions.

i decided years ago to leave it all behind. i became a hermit and focussed on my own spiritual growth. i am no longer the same person i was 10 years ago. literally.

day after day, 10 years of utter hell. wanting to kill myself, i forget how many times the thought crossed my mind, but i never did it because i didnt want to die. i only FELT like i wanted to die.

i couldnt see the point in living in a world that didnt want me, or love me. but you know what? fuck that. this world and the people in it dont need to meet your expectations for you to be happy in yourself.

i found joy in very simple things, bit by bit, flower by flower. sunlight, a gentle breeze, walks thru parks, good books, poetry, music.

i read about other people who had felt the way i did, i read books about what other people think, how other people put their lives back together,

how abused people found the strength to keep going and forgive their abusers.

i am not very good at forgiveness i can tell you that much. but i try. these days, i value every second of my life so much, i have no time to waste on bullshit.

i can have compassion for myself and other people and sit back and just breathe when things gets rough and realise hey - this too will pass.

everything is always changing, morphing into something new, a new mix, a new day, a new way of perceiving things,

and no matter what your spiritual beliefs are, there really is a love in this life that comes from nowhere else but inside you and it is the best thing ever.

people look for love outside, in other people, in hobbies and careers, in audiences and fame, in jobs and social events, but its not there.

it is inside you and the more you let the outside world go, and just focus on all the love you have to give, and you just do what you can to give it, it multiplies. love mutliplies the more you give it away.

i've put up with a lot of hell on this earth. heaven? we have to make it for ourselves. there is no other way.

so no matter how tired you get of going within, keep doing it, just keep it in balance. have some fun. do things you really enjoy. listen to prince's music. its good music.

but dont ever think for a minute that you are alone in how you feel. you never, ever, ever, will be alone in that.

your heaven on earth is inside you, but we have to go thru hell to get there my friend, at least that was my experience.

in regards to what people say about prince, let that be the least of your worries. he's heard it all before for 30 years.

cheers and love to you

streaming? more like steaming!

Thanx 4 your caring response

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I'll try to just SNAP OUT OF IT,

however, first I'll take a

Just for the record, I don't think the world or anybody 'owes me anything' or is obliged to fullfill my needs or offer me happiness....I just don't understand why we all cause suffering to eachother.

dJJ said:

Thanx 4 your caring response

thats okay. re why people cause so much suffering to each other, the reasons are endless i guess, but mostly i think we're all here on earth to learn and remember who and what we really are.

we have the choice of living in a state of forgetfulness or waking up to our true nature. worrying about the rest of the world is noble but it can also be a distraction to concentrating on your own health and peace of mind.

when i feel down i focus on all the good things in my life that i am grateful for. feeling a true appreciation for what we already have is sometimes the key to neutralizing our 'woes'.

in the end its a choice. we're in control of our own minds. how we use it is up to us. imo.

Grazie assai.............

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