paisleypark4 said:

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

Ebony and Jet are, to a certain extent, very tabloidy and in the same vein as the National Enquirer and US Weekly!!!

U obviously do not read Ebony or Jet and your views on these magazines are misjudged and irresponsibly reviewd as such in your evidence studied.

I have personally read both magazines. I will freely admit I haven't looked at one since the late 1990s, so I can't say much about their current content. Maybe they're better now. I wouldn't put them on the low-level of a tabloid, but they WERE extremely poorly written and and the level of writting reminded me of the level of my junior high and high school yearbooks. Very fluffy.

Perhaps they have some different writers now. I'm just relaying my past experience with them and the reason why it's been a lot of years since I bothered to waste money on one.

cool cant wait to read it

Reel said:

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

Ebony and Jet are, to a certain extent, very tabloidy and in the same vein as the National Enquirer and US Weekly!!!

My gosh at the genuine ignorance. Well this is a good time as ever to pick up Ebony and Jet and read those "National Enquirer" articles for yourself.

I swear, I don't know how "some of yall" who feel like this "justify" your love for this black man to yourselves. I guess those who feel this way just look at his skin complexion and say "heck he don't look that black too me" so he's "aiight" in my book.

Exactly!..........

[Edited 6/26/10 11:46am]

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

Ebony and Jet are, to a certain extent, very tabloidy and in the same vein as the National Enquirer and US Weekly!!!

Holy fucking shit. Now I have seen everything on the Org. This place is depressing.

Love ya'll makes no difference which mag cover he's on! u go big P!

SavonOsco said:

Has anyone else read this yet?...it's the usual stuff with pics from the "Ebony" photo shoot. I'm just glad he's still getting some shine..you go old man!!!

Hes not old

1960PurpleRain said:

squirrelgrease said:

Reverend said:

Now post Mork.

Gosh that was my first thought as well when I saw the Jet picture! Nanu-nanu!

[img:$uid]http://www.morethings.com/fan/robin_williams/mork-from-ork.jpg[/img:$uid]

serpan99 said:

I think it's cool he's on any magazine. Black, white, Puerto Rican ... Now why can't we all be freakin'? This is exactly what Prince spoke of in Ebony. How are any of us going to relate to one another when people say the first crazy thing on their minds? Look at the Universe. It is so big, and we are so small... is it too much to ask for people to get along? This planet will not be here forever, so whether you believe in God or not, just try to love one another so that if there is a God... we will all be together in one peaceful color.

bellanoche said:

Erika2k8 said:

Well considering I work for what you would label a "white magazine" I am a young woman of colour who sees that the images behind what you see are largely put together with white and black people and asian people etc

But I do agree those magazines dont put black people enough on magazines but its a growing progress. But its not fair to label it white magazine I think its stupid and ridiculous.

I respect your opinion, but I think it is, to quote you, "stupid and ridiculous" to assume that just because a multi-culti crew opts to reinforce images and ideologies of whiteness to the exclusion of all others that it somehow changes the cause and effect. I don't care who makes the decisions, the reason for it and the result is the same. I also think it is "stupid and ridiculous" to think that diversity on magazine covers should be a "growing" process or "progress," as you stated, in 2010.

I have worked as a journalist (mainly editing but also writing for magazines and newspapers) for more than 15 years for several publications, and I know what goes on behind closed doors as well as who the decision makers are. I have always fought in editorial meetings for more diverse covers and features in mainstream (white) publications. It is an ongoing struggle every month, and I haven't seen much growing in that area in the 15 years that I have been in the industry. Non-whites usually do not make covers unless they are mega stars who have large white fan bases. That's just a fact. How many mainstream/white covers did you see Taraji Henson on prior to "The Curious Case of Benjamin Buttons?" How many have you seen her on since that film and Oscar nomination?

Another thing that you should know since you are "a young woman of colour " (whatever that means) who works in the industry, is that magazines are often defined by their target audiences. That demographic also dictates who advertises in those magazines. Therefore, while today's PC world might not use terms like "white" or "black" to describe their focus or demographic, they do have terms that indicate the same thing. Instead of saying white or non-white, they say "mainstream" and "urban." However, the implication is the same.

[Edited 6/25/10 23:30pm]

More often than not, I don't put an entire quote in my reply, but bellenoche, you have stated your position so beautifully that I thought it should be repeated. I couldn't have done it as well so I thank you! Sometimes people just ignore reality unless it's right in front of them, and then.... many still refuse.

^ Thank you Rev.

Reverend said:

How do you guys do these things? What special equiptment or software does one need. That pic actually looked a bit legit for a quick second.

Reel said:

How do you guys do these things? What special equiptment or software does one need. That pic actually looked a bit legit for a quick second.

There's a special button in Microsoft Word you press and it does it all for you. Bit like the switch on P's guitar which he presses to make it play all those solos.

Reverend said:

Reel said:

There's a special button in Microsoft Word you press and it does it all for you. Bit like the switch on P's guitar which he presses to make it play all those solos.

Was only asking a genuine question.

Reel said:

Reverend said:

There's a special button in Microsoft Word you press and it does it all for you. Bit like the switch on P's guitar which he presses to make it play all those solos.

Was only asking a genuine question.

Ok, sorry for the sarcasim. It's just that it's not just a case of simply owning a certain piece of software which will magically do it for you. I recommend Adobe Photoshop, but it's a only a tool - you'll need to learn how to use it properly.

ladyleap2u said:

Desire2006 said:

First Ebony and now Jet magazine, what has he got against white magazines????

Wow, no wonder this world never gets past racism - just plain ignorant. I'll say a lil prayer for you.

PLease do because that was dumb as hell

Just got a copy of it from a friend... some interestiing spots but few too many inconsistencies

[Edited 6/26/10 16:37pm]

Reel said:

2elijah said:

You pretty much hit the target on that, because it certainly seems that way with some fans. Like Prince said in Ebony "We come in all colors and it should be reflected that way.." Judging from Desiree2006's ridiculous statement, proves some fans still need to be re-educated on the topic and various cultures/lifestyles/ethnicities of Black people around the globe.

[Edited 6/26/10 7:11am]

You know...I never ever suspected that Prince was anything other than black. I never ever thought that he was bi-racial not even after he put that "notion" into his movie. I was 13 when Purple Rain came out and I was like "yo what's with that white mother thing" cause he's black. Maybe because I'm black, I can just call them how I see them. But some of this is Prince's fault. He plays games with people regarding his race. He says one thing in Ebony, but recently in an article the interviewer (short version) said that he was black, and Prince held up his arm to the interviewer's arm and said "am I"? So he takes white folks on a ride and some of them fall for it.

I hear you. I've had many black friends that joked around and said that to one another, when comparing complexions. My niece does that all the time, because she is the same complexion as Prince, but she knows who she is as a black female, yet she is constantly mistaken for biracial or hispanic. I knew when I read what Prince said to that interviewer, when he said "Am I", that some fans would take it out of context, and misunderstood the comment.

It's obvious he said that in a joking manner, but it seems the interviewer was not amused. I'm sure over the years, he's used to that questioned being asked on fan websites, people in the media, and I believed he played along with that game, just like when people were curious about his sexuality. I believe it was to keep the mystery about him going, and this way it would keep his fans wondering and hold their interest. I think now that he is older, and have different beliefs, that he has embraced who he is as a black man in his own way. Just listening to some of the lyrics in some of the music over the years, pretty much hints that he is well aware of who he is. He really should not have to answer as to why he made a personal decision to be photographed or interviewed in any magazine, since it is his personal choice, and the fans don't own his being.

2elijah said:

Reel said:

You know...I never ever suspected that Prince was anything other than black. I never ever thought that he was bi-racial not even after he put that "notion" into his movie. I was 13 when Purple Rain came out and I was like "yo what's with that white mother thing" cause he's black. Maybe because I'm black, I can just call them how I see them. But some of this is Prince's fault. He plays games with people regarding his race. He says one thing in Ebony, but recently in an article the interviewer (short version) said that he was black, and Prince held up his arm to the interviewer's arm and said "am I"? So he takes white folks on a ride and some of them fall for it.

I hear you. I've had many black friends that joked around and said that to one another, when comparing complexions. My niece does that all the time, because she is the same complexion as Prince, but she knows who she is as a black female, yet she is constantly mistaken for biracial or hispanic. I knew when I read what Prince said to that interviewer, when he said "Am I", that some fans would take it out of context, and misunderstood the comment.

It's obvious he said that in a joking manner, but it seems the interviewer was not amused. I'm sure over the years, he's used to that questioned being asked on fan websites, people in the media, and I believed he played along with that game, just like when people were curious about his sexuality. I believe it was to keep the mystery about him going, and this way it would keep his fans wondering and hold their interest. I think now that he is older, and have different beliefs, that he has embraced who he is as a black man in his own way. Just listening to some of the lyrics in some of the music over the years, pretty much hints that he is well aware of who he is. He really should not have to answer as to why he made a personal decision to be photographed or interviewed in any magazine, since it is his personal choice, and the fans don't own his being.

i know what you mean, im probably the lightest full black person known to man

i get all types of people asking me... "what are you"?

i used to get teased in school they use to call me white girl and albino

i remember when i would go on vacation with my aunt and cousins

and she would say "we need to get you some damn sun so it doesn't look like we kidnapped you"

it used to bother me but now im like whatever im still a black girl when it boils down to it

Reverend said:

"Oh Baby your so good"

- Mindy circa 1978

Desire2006 said:

First Ebony and now Jet magazine, what has he got against white magazines????

u cannot be serious...

paisleypark4 said:

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

Ebony and Jet are, to a certain extent, very tabloidy and in the same vein as the National Enquirer and US Weekly!!!

U obviously do not read Ebony or Jet and your views on these magazines are misjudged and irresponsibly reviewd as such in your evidence studied.

clearly!

littlemissG said:

Does Prince look like he's Ming the Merciless in this picture.

It looks like what some evil space ruler would wear.

NOW THAT'S FUNNY! I could see it, too!

PicklesMcMillan said:

2elijah said:

I hear you. I've had many black friends that joked around and said that to one another, when comparing complexions. My niece does that all the time, because she is the same complexion as Prince, but she knows who she is as a black female, yet she is constantly mistaken for biracial or hispanic. I knew when I read what Prince said to that interviewer, when he said "Am I", that some fans would take it out of context, and misunderstood the comment.

It's obvious he said that in a joking manner, but it seems the interviewer was not amused. I'm sure over the years, he's used to that questioned being asked on fan websites, people in the media, and I believed he played along with that game, just like when people were curious about his sexuality. I believe it was to keep the mystery about him going, and this way it would keep his fans wondering and hold their interest. I think now that he is older, and have different beliefs, that he has embraced who he is as a black man in his own way. Just listening to some of the lyrics in some of the music over the years, pretty much hints that he is well aware of who he is. He really should not have to answer as to why he made a personal decision to be photographed or interviewed in any magazine, since it is his personal choice, and the fans don't own his being.

i know what you mean, im probably the lightest full black person known to man

i get all types of people asking me... "what are you"?

i used to get teased in school they use to call me white girl and albino

i remember when i would go on vacation with my aunt and cousins

and she would say "we need to get you some damn sun so it doesn't look like we kidnapped you"

it used to bother me but now im like whatever im still a black girl when it boils down to it

I hear you. Some of my nieces go through that all the time, but they just throw it over their shoulders and keep it moving, because when it comes down to it, they know who they are.

[Edited 6/27/10 12:10pm]

littlemissG said:

Does Prince look like he's Ming the Merciless in this picture.

It looks like what some evil space ruler would wear.

I was thinking the same

.

evil monster aliens! everybody run!

NewPowerSista said:

bellanoche said:

I respect your opinion, but I think it is, to quote you, "stupid and ridiculous" to assume that just because a multi-culti crew opts to reinforce images and ideologies of whiteness to the exclusion of all others that it somehow changes the cause and effect. I don't care who makes the decisions, the reason for it and the result is the same. I also think it is "stupid and ridiculous" to think that diversity on magazine covers should be a "growing" process or "progress," as you stated, in 2010.

I have worked as a journalist (mainly editing but also writing for magazines and newspapers) for more than 15 years for several publications, and I know what goes on behind closed doors as well as who the decision makers are. I have always fought in editorial meetings for more diverse covers and features in mainstream (white) publications. It is an ongoing struggle every month, and I haven't seen much growing in that area in the 15 years that I have been in the industry. Non-whites usually do not make covers unless they are mega stars who have large white fan bases. That's just a fact. How many mainstream/white covers did you see Taraji Henson on prior to "The Curious Case of Benjamin Buttons?" How many have you seen her on since that film and Oscar nomination?

Another thing that you should know since you are "a young woman of colour " (whatever that means) who works in the industry, is that magazines are often defined by their target audiences. That demographic also dictates who advertises in those magazines. Therefore, while today's PC world might not use terms like "white" or "black" to describe their focus or demographic, they do have terms that indicate the same thing. Instead of saying white or non-white, they say "mainstream" and "urban." However, the implication is the same.

[Edited 6/25/10 23:30pm]

More often than not, I don't put an entire quote in my reply, but bellenoche, you have stated your position so beautifully that I thought it should be repeated. I couldn't have done it as well so I thank you! Sometimes people just ignore reality unless it's right in front of them, and then.... many still refuse.

Thank you NewPowerSista. I hate to go off on tangents and get off topic when I visit these threads. Therefore, many times I choose not to attempt to wake the sleeping, but sometimes I just have to go there.

Peace!