thecloud said:

Erika2k8 said:

Ok , do you not get the sarcasm or are you joking?

Nah, just having a little fun with this topic, but indeed it is sad! But i'm not shocked at all.

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no problem

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

Ebony and Jet are, to a certain extent, very tabloidy and in the same vein as the National Enquirer and US Weekly!!!

Most of the "white" magazines won't give him a cover.

prime said:

Tavis Smiley is a dumbass.

bellanoche said:

Erika2k8 said:

White magazines? Quite ignorant to call the majority of the magazines that arent ebony which is blatently aimed at african-americans WHITE magazines.

While I disagree with the Desdire2006's ignorant assertions about Prince and Ebony/Jet magazines, I think there is truth in the description of the other mags as largely white. Have you really taken a look at the magazine/news stands lately?

When I was looking for the Prince Ebony issue, I took a moment and just looked at the sea of magazines with nothing but white faces on them in each store that I went to - Target, Borders, Walgreens, CVS, etc. The only mags that had non-whties on the cover or as features where Ebony, Jet, Latina, Sister 2 Sister, Oprah and a few other "niche" publications. People was the only mainstream (white) magazine that had a non-whtie on the cover, and it was Gary Coleman because he just died. Non-whites are rarely featured on covers of white magazines unless they are Beyonce/Halle/Wil Smith types, which are very few.

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Exactly! U are so right on that............& U forgot Rhianna...lol

Desire2006 said:

I am talking about at this present time!! It would b nice 2 see him again on covers of Mojo Magazine, Q Magazine, Rolling Stone, etc.!!!

Why do you think those mags do not have P on the cover? Jan Werner the owner of Rolling Stone said a few years ago that covers with black artist do not sell well. Don't you think it is better for P to be on the front of some mag than none because someone thinks his face effects sales.

I think some of the white fans need to understand that the black community has been behind P since the begining of his career. His music current and old still gets play on urban stations. He is not going to turn his back on black music so you need to accept it and move on with your life.

http://www.myjet247.com/E..._of_Prince

Kool pix....The promotion is on.........

the man looks hella juicy fruit on the Ebony cover there had to be better photos from that shoot.

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cheer up Prince, everybody loves you.

Does Prince look like he's Ming the Merciless in this picture.

It looks like what some evil space ruler would wear.

lamusica2000 said:

Tavis Smiley is a dumbass.

R U Kidding? Why would you say such a thing?

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

http://www.myjet247.com/E..._of_Prince

Kool pix....The promotion is on.........

What's up with the hat? Yikes! Kind of reminds me of the Gold era.....no thanks

Erika2k8 said:

bellanoche said:

While I disagree with the Desdire2006's ignorant assertions about Prince and Ebony/Jet magazines, I think there is truth in the description of the other mags as largely white. Have you really taken a look at the magazine/news stands lately?

When I was looking for the Prince Ebony issue, I took a moment and just looked at the sea of magazines with nothing but white faces on them in each store that I went to - Target, Borders, Walgreens, CVS, etc. The only mags that had non-whties on the cover or as features where Ebony, Jet, Latina, Sister 2 Sister, Oprah and a few other "niche" publications. People was the only mainstream (white) magazine that had a non-whtie on the cover, and it was Gary Coleman because he just died. Non-whites are rarely featured on covers of white magazines unless they are Beyonce/Halle/Wil Smith types, which are very few.

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Well considering I work for what you would label a "white magazine" I am a young woman of colour who sees that the images behind what you see are largely put together with white and black people and asian people etc

But I do agree those magazines dont put black people enough on magazines but its a growing progress. But its not fair to label it white magazine I think its stupid and ridiculous.

I respect your opinion, but I think it is, to quote you, "stupid and ridiculous" to assume that just because a multi-culti crew opts to reinforce images and ideologies of whiteness to the exclusion of all others that it somehow changes the cause and effect. I don't care who makes the decisions, the reason for it and the result is the same. I also think it is "stupid and ridiculous" to think that diversity on magazine covers should be a "growing" process or "progress," as you stated, in 2010.

I have worked as a journalist (mainly editing but also writing for magazines and newspapers) for more than 15 years for several publications, and I know what goes on behind closed doors as well as who the decision makers are. I have always fought in editorial meetings for more diverse covers and features in mainstream (white) publications. It is an ongoing struggle every month, and I haven't seen much growing in that area in the 15 years that I have been in the industry. Non-whites usually do not make covers unless they are mega stars who have large white fan bases. That's just a fact. How many mainstream/white covers did you see Taraji Henson on prior to "The Curious Case of Benjamin Buttons?" How many have you seen her on since that film and Oscar nomination?

Another thing that you should know since you are "a young woman of colour " (whatever that means) who works in the industry, is that magazines are often defined by their target audiences. That demographic also dictates who advertises in those magazines. Therefore, while today's PC world might not use terms like "white" or "black" to describe their focus or demographic, they do have terms that indicate the same thing. Instead of saying white or non-white, they say "mainstream" and "urban." However, the implication is the same.

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squirrelgrease said:

Not this shit again.

Yep

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

UK mags ain't gonna put him on the cover. Prince on the cover = your magazine having its worst month in ages. Dido is also killer.

And in-depth interviews? Ain't gonna happen.

BartVanHemelen said:

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

UK mags ain't gonna put him on the cover. Prince on the cover = your magazine having its worst month in ages. Dido is also killer.

And in-depth interviews? Ain't gonna happen.

You mean like when the Mail carried Prince's album and had their best circulation figures ever? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, you only deal in facts, eh?

Prove your statements! An indisputable fact about why UK mags won't put him on the cover. A fact which shows a magazine having "its worst month" by having Prince/Dido on the cover. And a fact supporting why an in-depth interview is never going to happen. You demand this of everyone else - now its your turn

Dreamer2 said:

Desire2006 said:

First Ebony and now Jet magazine, what has he got against white magazines????

I hope this is a poor joke.....

What a silly think to say, how many magazines has Prince been in over the years ?

Crazy talk...

Exactly, what Dreamer2 says!

squirrelgrease said:

Not this shit again.

prime said:

lamusica2000 said:

Tavis Smiley is a dumbass.

R U Kidding? Why would you say such a thing?

It seemed like the comment belonged in this topic. And I'm not kidding. I get so embarrassed just watching Tavis "pontificate" with his psuedo-intellectuality lol

Desire2006 said:

First Ebony and now Jet magazine, what has he got against white magazines????

Can't a black man do interviews for 2 black magazines? Hot damned....not this topic again. We just went through this crap with the whole Ebony issue. If I was Prince's manager, I'd have him do interviews for every last black magazine out there, that way non-blacks will pick them up and read a thing or two about black culture.

Heck Prince will make his rounds to non black mainstream magazines as well.

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

Ebony and Jet are, to a certain extent, very tabloidy and in the same vein as the National Enquirer and US Weekly!!!

My gosh at the genuine ignorance. Well this is a good time as ever to pick up Ebony and Jet and read those "National Enquirer" articles for yourself.

I swear, I don't know how "some of yall" who feel like this "justify" your love for this black man to yourselves. I guess those who feel this way just look at his skin complexion and say "heck he don't look that black too me" so he's "aiight" in my book.

Reel said:

If I was Prince's manager,

interesting thought, being prince's manager. i'd give it a go.

Erika2k8 said:

bellanoche said:

While I disagree with the Desdire2006's ignorant assertions about Prince and Ebony/Jet magazines, I think there is truth in the description of the other mags as largely white. Have you really taken a look at the magazine/news stands lately?

When I was looking for the Prince Ebony issue, I took a moment and just looked at the sea of magazines with nothing but white faces on them in each store that I went to - Target, Borders, Walgreens, CVS, etc. The only mags that had non-whties on the cover or as features where Ebony, Jet, Latina, Sister 2 Sister, Oprah and a few other "niche" publications. People was the only mainstream (white) magazine that had a non-whtie on the cover, and it was Gary Coleman because he just died. Non-whites are rarely featured on covers of white magazines unless they are Beyonce/Halle/Wil Smith types, which are very few.

[Edited 6/25/10 9:55am]

Well considering I work for what you would label a "white magazine" I am a young woman of colour who sees that the images behind what you see are largely put together with white and black people and asian people etc

But I do agree those magazines dont put black people enough on magazines but its a growing progress. But its not fair to label it white magazine I think its stupid and ridiculous.

I don't think it's stupid or ridiculous at all. Those magazines are not owned by black people, and they cater to white mainstream America. Obviously blacks fit into mainstream America so they can identify with the articles etc. But they are white mainstream magazines. Shoot we see the finished product of the magazines both whats on the cover and behind it and we dont gotta work for the magzine to see it's contents...and those magazines are white mainstream mags. Sorry. Some may tend to be a little bit more "inclusive" than others but that's all behind the front cover and the story remains the same.

Mindflux said:

BartVanHemelen said:

UK mags ain't gonna put him on the cover. Prince on the cover = your magazine having its worst month in ages. Dido is also killer.

And in-depth interviews? Ain't gonna happen.

You mean like when the Mail carried Prince's album and had their best circulation figures ever? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, you only deal in facts, eh?

Yes, free new album = cover story. Got any other imbecilic comparisons in that bag of yours?

Prove your statements!

Read the mags. Word did an overview on one of their anniversaries, and said the Prince and Dido covers were newsstand poison. Read the same thing in another UK mag. Or look at the facts: how many times has Prince had a cover story in those mags. If he was selling mags, they'd put him on every other month. Just look at the back issues of mags like Mojo and Uncut: I wouldn't be surprised there's at least one Beatles cover and one Pink Floyd cover for each mag in the past year. Why? Because those copies sell. Prince doesn't, in fact he does the opposite.

An indisputable fact about why UK mags won't put him on the cover. A fact which shows a magazine having "its worst month" by having Prince/Dido on the cover. And a fact supporting why an in-depth interview is never going to happen. You demand this of everyone else - now its your turn

One of the Word back issues. Go look it up. It's in print. Maybe I've got the mag here somewhere, if I ever come accross it I'll take a pic and post it.

In-depth interviews ain't gonna happen because they've never happened. And certainly not recently. Princ einterviews = Prince babbling on about a handful of prepared topics. Go read the interviews he did over the course of two days to promote Emancipation: same shit over and over. A few reporters complained that Prince kept saying things that in no way answered their questions. Same deal with pics: always the same poses.

The reason I say "prove it", is when people post proven lies and nonsense. I don't lie.

lamusica2000 said:

Tavis Smiley is a dumbass.

I've lost tremendous respect for Tavis. Not sure why you even mentioned his name though.

Reel said:

Desire2006 said:

Perhaps I should have put it another way!!!! How about a really IN DEPTH interview in a SERIOUS music magazine like Mojo, Q, Rolling Stone, Uncut, Word magazine, etc.????

Ebony and Jet are, to a certain extent, very tabloidy and in the same vein as the National Enquirer and US Weekly!!!

My gosh at the genuine ignorance. Well this is a good time as ever to pick up Ebony and Jet and read those "National Enquirer" articles for yourself.

I swear, I don't know how "some of yall" who feel like this "justify" your love for this black man to yourselves. I guess those who feel this way just look at his skin complexion and say "heck he don't look that black too me" so he's "aiight" in my book.

You pretty much hit the target on that, because it certainly seems that way with some fans. Like Prince said in Ebony "We come in all colors and it should be reflected that way everywhere around the globe." Judging from Desiree2006's ridiculous statement, proves some fans still need to be re-educated on the topic and various cultures/lifestyles/ethnicities of Black people around the globe. Secondly, there's no reason why Prince has to be questioned or answer to anyone, as to why he agreed to be interviewed by a magazine highlighting the lifestyles/culture/historic information about Blacks in general. Quite frankly, I think some fans have this strange impression that they own him, and that he has to answer to them for everything that he does in his life.

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2elijah said:

Reel said:

My gosh at the genuine ignorance. Well this is a good time as ever to pick up Ebony and Jet and read those "National Enquirer" articles for yourself.

I swear, I don't know how "some of yall" who feel like this "justify" your love for this black man to yourselves. I guess those who feel this way just look at his skin complexion and say "heck he don't look that black too me" so he's "aiight" in my book.

You pretty much hit the target on that, because it certainly seems that way with some fans. Like Prince said in Ebony "We come in all colors and it should be reflected that way.." Judging from Desiree2006's ridiculous statement, proves some fans still need to be re-educated on the topic and various cultures/lifestyles/ethnicities of Black people around the globe.

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You know...I never ever suspected that Prince was anything other than black. I never ever thought that he was bi-racial not even after he put that "notion" into his movie. I was 13 when Purple Rain came out and I was like "yo what's with that white mother thing" cause he's black. Maybe because I'm black, I can just call them how I see them. But some of this is Prince's fault. He plays games with people regarding his race. He says one thing in Ebony, but recently in an article the interviewer (short version) said that he was black, and Prince held up his arm to the interviewer's arm and said "am I"? So he takes white folks on a ride and some of them fall for it.

Desire2006 said:

First Ebony and now Jet magazine, what has he got against white magazines????

Wow, no wonder this world never gets past racism - just plain ignorant. I'll say a lil prayer for you.

WisdomNLove said:

SavonOsco said:

Has anyone else read this yet?...it's the usual stuff with pics from the "Ebony" photo shoot. I'm just glad he's still getting some shine..you go old man!!!

he is not OLD, and Prince has always gotten shine maybe you were too blinded by it to notice

My thoughts exactly...Prince continues to get shine. Good for him.