Bohemian67 said:

Where did I suggest this?

Bohemian67 said:

You were responding to my comment when posting this. Why would I think otherwise?

Bohemian67 said:

Ummm...I'm not angry. I said I was a pissed off consumer.
Why is your wording dodgy?

Bohemian67 said:

Christ enough with the hyperbole please. Of course not. Your comeback here is ridiculous.

Bohemian67 said:

Your use of capitals aside, a businessman who was aiming to look after his customers, when selling them a product that required maintenance from a server, would maintain the server. I'll elaborate but only because I think you're still missing my point. The DRM in the downloads was programmed in a way that if the music was transferred from one pc to another, it would contact the server to verify it was a valid copy. Upon verification, the download would then be playable on the new computer. When I transferred to the new computer, Media Player was unable to verify the download as being legitimate (as it was, since I have the email receipts) because the server was no longer valid ie it had been removed. Of course it's not my fault. It was DESIGNED that way. In effect, it was designed to ONLY be playable after verification. The fact that the NPG Music Club was shut down without maintaining the server shows a lack of customer care. How can you not see that people would have a gripe with that?

If you don't understand the reasoning behind those who are frustrated with the above situation, perhaps a little bit of reading into the Sony JP/DefSTAR Labelgate debacle back in 2003 would open your eyes a little to the lack of business ethics behind DRM and other such backfired attempts to control the usage of purchased media.

Bohemian67 said:

Why do you disagree? Logically the sale of tickets for a concert or series of concerts is not a business model (obviously only a portion thereof)...tell me how I'm wrong....

Bohemian67 said:

Umm.....this is a little silly. What has this got to do with anything?

Honestly, how many threads do we need on the same subject over and over again? Do people really not know if you ignore people they will go away? Instead of focusing on the negative and letting it ruin your time here, ignore those posts and keep on keepin' on. When I read people going on being negative, I just roll my eyes and skip over those posts. I used to hate when people said you should have a thicker skin but now I am a firm believer in it. Prince does not need defending.

I hate he even acknowledged the "haters" on the internet. He is even feeding the negativity.

Vendetta1 said:

Yeah, you're right. I normally just ignore these types of threads but this one started out well and I thought I'd contribute.
It would be nice to be understood and be able to have a discussion about it, but yet again it seems to have veered to the "extreme" side.

CONNORHAWKE - your posts are nothing but agressive and therefore not worth taking the time to answer.

Bohemian67 said:

Yup. An abusive relationship is what they call that. Those relationships can go on and on and on. Must have something to do with the past.

Tremolina said:

Yes... and not being able to let go.

Tremolina said:

goody this thread will be lock soon !

Bohemian67 said:

Not my intention at all. If you take it as aggressive that's entirely up to you, of course.

I did use the words 'silly' and 'ridiculous'. Hardly aggressive but fairly truthful when faced with a lack of logic.

I'm truly sorry you think so.....

Your sunglasses are beyond pink.

Bohemian67 said:

huh?

connorhawke said:

xlr8r said:

I honestly don't get it.....don't understand the term

Bohemian67 said:

And with that, I think this conversation has run it's course.

connorhawke said:

I think it had something to do with the phrase 'looking at the world through rose-colored glasses' but I was just laughing at you reaction, regardless of what was said lol.

xlr8r said:

Oh I see.....

But still slightly

Just to confirm, my comments were not regarding people upset over some dubious buisness practices and feeling ripped off or what have you. It was mainly about online fans (which in general I don't think he has a fond affintity for, for whatever reasons lol) and the non objective attitudes. Most have been big Prince freaks but try to fit in with those who are down on Prince to belong to something. They know who they are and you know who they are. Peace out lol.

Tremolina said:

Shut up Tremolina.

Bohemian67 said:

Indeed, not being able to let go of the past.

Vendetta1 said:

Why? It's true.

Fams... I dunno. i dont understand you lot. I come to this forum maybe 2 or 3 times a year just to catch up and find out if there is anything new I may wanna download. I used to buy everything but these days, with Prince, I try before I buy and the last thing I tried and went on to buy was 3121.

Prince's music has been rubbish for many years now. Im surprised that he still has so many blinded sheep following his every move. I guess that is the nature of celebrity.

Personally, I will continue to download his music for free until I find something worthy of paying for. In the meantime I will follow the progress of other artists whom I find much more creative and compelling than Prince.

To the fams - Prince is not god. He is not the second coming. He is a talented musician who lost his mojo with age, as do most artists. Live with it and stop crying every time someone comes out and says it. It really does make you look insane when you blindly defend the man in such a consistently tedious way. Its called obsession and should be dealt with by a proffessional.

To Prince - just do what you do (did) best and write some good fucking tunes and distribute them in a simple and coherent manner. Scrap this misguided idea that people are willing to pay to join a premium website. those days are over. Put it all on iTunes and go with the flow. You will get enough sales and enough concert goers to keep you in the lifestyle you have become accustomed to, so forget about the stuff that slips through the net.

To the haters - Try before you buy. The more people that do that, the more an artist would be pressured to releasing a product worth buying. To get Prince out of his auto-pilot mode we should all apply a try before you buy policy. His shit records will not be bought by many, his good ones would. This is the beauty of the internet - like clothes stores, you can try on whatever you want before you part money for it.

Rebeljuice said:

Aaaahhh...you're like a breath of fresh air or to me!

Tremolina said:

No, it isn't true. Some of you guys forget there are people that had no problem with NPGMC. I had a ball there. I got front row tickets there and aftershow tickets and had a soundcheck and even met the guy because of there. People coming and complaining over not being able to still play files from there baffles me because the kind of files they were was said from the get-go. Now, I joined the new site not knowing what I was getting and I was fine with that BUT don't turn around and offer what I paid for to someone for free. His business models suck. Not opening your mouth to your customers sucks. Why people excuse that, I have no idea but I think if it were anyone else than Prince, they'd be pissed the hell off.

And, it's not like I'm one of those people still pissed off about the Crystal Ball fiasco.

Vendetta1 said:

The only people IMO who have a license to bitch about the NPGMC would be those who joined shortly before it just went and closed down. It was gone before they really had a chance to take advantage of anything other than the song downloads. Otherwise, if you had all those song files for so long...was it not possible to burn them to a cd? Even if he used some sort of funky DRM encryption thing...c'mon! There's a way around damn near everything, all ya gotta do is google it

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Tremolina said:

Fuck Crystal Ball...I'm still waiting for the rest of my NPG Magazine subscription!

Nikademus said:

Yeah the audio files weren't the problem. The video files were. Just my opinion though. I get my knickers in a knot at having to go googling and fiddling with something when I've already paid for it

OH good Lawd!

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Vendetta1 said:

What happened with the NPG magazine?

You ever notice the people who start these type of threads never ever post on them after their intial post? lol

xlr8r said:

you make my two stomachs hurt.

...and therefore reaffirming the topic of the post.
Isn't not following your own post a sign of bad, bad famitude ?