VenusBlingBling said:

Your statement is probably the most precise and truthful EVER in this forum. It should receive a prince.org quote of the year or something like that.

AbucahX said:

or, maybe you just have bad taste.

stanleylieber said:

There IS a real difference. I some ways the new stuff is better, in some ways it's worse. He was more experimental back then, and his music was more ahead of its time. The times have caught up to him a bit.

But then, some stuff sounded a little unfinished to me back then.

Just one example...Forever In My Life is great, but it's so minimal. It's a very meandering melody over a totally sparse arrangement. I don't think he'd do a song like it today. Many people love it, I have mixed feelings about it musically speaking.

IN fact a lot of the Sign music feels really simple compared to his later music. It, I Could Never Take the Place, Hot Thing, Forever, Starfish & Coffee, If I Was Your Girlfriend are all really simple in places. I'm not putting them down, I like them, but they sound almost unfinished at times.

I hear that MPLSound is not exactly genius, but I like the rich arrangements, and I think the songs are genuinely catchy & fun.

NDRU said:

Is this the musician side of you or just the NDRU side?

it's definitely true he wouldn't do a song like that today.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

well, I don't really know that I can separate them. Part of me likes the song and part of me feels it never found it's way home.

But part of creating great stuff is taking chances like that, recording a song in such an unconventional way, and that's something I think he doesn't do as much of today.

skywalker said:

Now and again? Dude, that view is just as widespread now as it was then.



Just a few months ago there was a poll here to find out what people's favorite P albums were. Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic was way down at the bottom. Emancipation was down in the lower half too. The Top 5 consisted exclusively of 80s albums. IIRC there were only two albums in the whole Top 10 that weren't released in the 80s. This revisionism seems to be taking place more inside your head than anywhere in the real world.

NDRU said:

So true. I think Forever In My Life is a great song, but I really think it could have done with some damn chords. Even just a strumming guitar or a simple pad would've been nice. I actually think the minimism is perfect on Starfish & Coffee though. It's such a quirky song with such a charming story that it doesn't miss those extra layers imo. I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man is perfect to me. Hot Thing is cool, but it should've been a b-side. SOTT has some of his best material on it, but it's far from perfect. It's a rough, unruly overflowing of ideas.

In life it's all about growth and maturity and our musical taste mature. I didn't listen to slow jams before I started listening to Prince. I became a fan in 1996 when Jam of The Year came to South Florida. I love each album on it's own merit. There may be some songs on it that aren't my favorite and then there are songs, of course, you know that I love.

It's all about personal growth and our musical tastes change. The 1st 10 years of P's music is like when we were kids in school learning about life and girls (for me). I was girl crazy. LoL ...

I disagree with you on that view.

I am sure Wendy and Lisa brought in some of the (psychedelic) pop influences, but in the mid-eighties you also had a movement called 'the Paisley Underground' that was quite popular among (alternative) rockfans.
The name was used for a number of bands, mostly coming from LA, whose music harked back to the psychedelic pop of the sixties (using influences from the three B's: Beatles, Byrds, Beach Boys, among others) in their guitar-music.
I am talking about bands like: Dream Syndicate, the early Bangles, Rain Parade and Three'o'clock.
Its no coincedence Prince did write Manic Monday for, yes, the Bangles and that, yes, Three 'o' Clock became signed to Paisley Park.
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Very meandering melody? Its just a 'traditional' verse, chorus, verse, chorus composition.

skywalker said:

They are not attached to a blockbuster film release..

These people are getting older, and have a fondess of the music of their youth.

Riverpoet31 said:

Yeah someone else responded concerning the Paisley Underground

I'm researching it though,

But what I'm saying is how prevailent was that in 1980's pop culture
as far as music/movies were concerned I didn't remember much of a psychedelic influence on music

There was a lot of fusion going on in all genre of music back then
I look at the 80's music as Fusion influenced.
There was a lot of tight pants-leather jeans, breaker belts, skinny ties big hair, Michael Jackson, Poison, Van Hallen, Bruce Madonna & Janet Jackson
I still think Prince's music had a large impact on late 80's early 90's music
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Linn4days said:

Lazy and dishonest post.

Riverpoet31 said:

Forever In My Life has a chorus?

Riverpoet31 said:

so that means it doesn't have a meandering melody?

midnightmover said:

yeah, when that guitar comes in at the very end of Forever in my Life, I wonder why it wasn't there before. And again in the movie, he uses guitar to great effect.

I really like all those songs, though. Not trying to take away from them.