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Reply #30 posted 04/16/09 11:13pm

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

I think it is the worst song Prince has ever done. In my opinion, he is the greatest musician of all time. That doesn't give him the privilege to "educate" people by making statements about science that are just plain ignorant or making statements about politics that show a lack of understanding.

Prince, please stick to music and stay away from politics or (especially) science. There is nothing thought provoking about it; it is just plain silly!


Hear hear, he is a fantastic musician but intellectually challenged.
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Reply #31 posted 04/16/09 11:26pm

PEJ

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xlr8r said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Love this song.


eek

lol
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #32 posted 04/17/09 4:06am

LondonStyle

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:[quote]I think it is the worst song Prince has ever done. In my opinion, he is the greatest musician of all time. That doesn't give him the privilege to "educate" people by making statements about science that are just plain ignorant or making statements about politics that show a lack of understanding.

Prince, please stick to music and stay away from politics or (especially) science. There is nothing thought provoking about it; it is just plain silly![/quote]

oh boy there's always one on the org...Music ....Please..... music

Oh yeah
In France a skinny man
Died of a big disease with a little name
By chance his girlfriend came across a needle
And soon she did the same
At home there are seventeen-year-old boys
And their idea of fun
Is being in a gang called The Disciples
High on crack, totin' a machine gun

Time, time

Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling of a church
And killed everyone inside
U turn on the telly and every other story
Is tellin' U somebody died
Sister killed her baby cuz she could afford 2 feed it
And we're sending people 2 the moon
In September my cousin tried reefer 4 the very first time
Now he's doing horse, it's June

Times, times

It's silly, no?
When a rocket ship explodes
And everybody still wants 2 fly
Some say a man ain't happy
Unless a man truly dies
Oh why
Time, time

Baby make a speech, Star Wars fly
Neighbors just shine it on
But if a night falls and a bomb falls
Will anybody see the dawn
Time, times

It's silly, no?
When a rocket blows
And everybody still wants 2 fly
Some say a man ain't happy, truly
Until a man truly dies
Oh why, oh why, Sign O the Times

Time, time

Sign O the Times mess with your mind
Hurry before it's 2 late
Let's fall in love, get married, have a baby
We'll call him Nate... if it's a boy

Time, time

Time, time

©1987 Controversy Music - ASCAP


lol
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Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #33 posted 04/17/09 4:36am

lottielooloo19
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colonized mind is epic! it's sung from his heart & captures his genuine brilliance!
the lyrics are wanky & obvious, & a wholelotta other stuff all at the same time...makes this song very interesting.
it's his opinion....he's 'just sayin'..!
it's dadrock approach & the tuffprince attitude he's giving out always does it 4 me.
his vocals are just stunning, take me 2 another place
it's a stunner, loved it immediately heart
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Reply #34 posted 04/17/09 4:43am

garganta

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ernestsewell said:

It's just you.


judging by the responses on this thread, it´s definitely not just him neutral
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Reply #35 posted 04/17/09 7:30am

xlr8r

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I love the bass going off at the very last 30 second chorus.

And the live sound is what Ive been craving for.
It's so Hendrixian yet still Prince to me too.

Sounds truly inspired and not like the recent material i.e. searching to make pop hits. He stretched a bit here.
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Reply #36 posted 04/17/09 7:35am

1sexymf

This is my favorite on Lotusflow3r.
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Reply #37 posted 04/17/09 7:37am

Dsoul

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LondonStyle said:[quote]Darwintheorgangrinder said

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I think it is the worst song Prince has ever done. In my opinion, he is the greatest musician of all time. That doesn't give him the privilege to "educate" people by making statements about science that are just plain ignorant or making statements about politics that show a lack of understanding.

Prince, please stick to music and stay away from politics or (especially) science. There is nothing thought provoking about it; it is just plain silly![/quote]

oh boy there's always one on the org...Music ....Please..... music

Oh yeah
In France a skinny man
Died of a big disease with a little name
By chance his girlfriend came across a needle
And soon she did the same
At home there are seventeen-year-old boys
And their idea of fun
Is being in a gang called The Disciples
High on crack, totin' a machine gun

Time, time

Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling of a church
And killed everyone inside
U turn on the telly and every other story
Is tellin' U somebody died
Sister killed her baby cuz she could afford 2 feed it
And we're sending people 2 the moon
In September my cousin tried reefer 4 the very first time
Now he's doing horse, it's June

Times, times

It's silly, no?
When a rocket ship explodes
And everybody still wants 2 fly
Some say a man ain't happy
Unless a man truly dies
Oh why
Time, time

Baby make a speech, Star Wars fly
Neighbors just shine it on
But if a night falls and a bomb falls
Will anybody see the dawn
Time, times

It's silly, no?
When a rocket blows
And everybody still wants 2 fly
Some say a man ain't happy, truly
Until a man truly dies
Oh why, oh why, Sign O the Times

Time, time

Sign O the Times mess with your mind
Hurry before it's 2 late
Let's fall in love, get married, have a baby
We'll call him Nate... if it's a boy

Time, time

Time, time

©1987 Controversy Music - ASCAP


lol
[Edited 4/17/09 4:07am]


Maybe the poster could tolerate Prince's political and religious musings back in the 80s. He's a very different beast now, in fact you could make a case for intellectual regression.
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Reply #38 posted 04/17/09 8:39am

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I love this song and it comes across so natural, like he didn't even need to try hard. A classic for sure and one that will be loved for years to come.
I'm hot and I don't care who knows it...I got a job to do. cooked
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Reply #39 posted 04/17/09 8:58am

timmie

I am a big fan of all of his music and have been for a long time (since 79)

this song is my favorite since the first time I heard Anna Stesia - I really think it is that good!
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Reply #40 posted 04/17/09 9:24am

johnny2000

It's an updated 'Sign O' The Times' !!

except.....

'Sign of the times' had a super cool bass line, drum beat, lyrics, guitar playing and sound, melody and vocal delivery, overall track mix.

No comparison
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Reply #41 posted 04/17/09 11:47am

Darwintheorgan
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Maybe the poster could tolerate Prince's political and religious musings back in the 80s. He's a very different beast now, in fact you could make a case for intellectual regression.[/quote]


I don't care if he puts his religious or political feelings in songs. I am an atheist, but I really enjoy some of his religious stuff (including "The Cross"). Here is my problem with Colonized Mind:

1. First of all, he is making false scientific statements. I guarantee that Prince knows nothing about evolution except that it contradicts his religious beliefs. He is not qualified to discuss science, so he should leave it alone.

2. In terms of his political statements, I don't care if he makes them, but he should stick to opinions. I doubt that Prince understands the difference between 2 party systems, multi-party systems, or any time of system for that matter. The fact that he equated it with fascism proves this. Fascism actually means something. There is no correlation between 2 party systems and fascism. I have a background in political science, so this is a pet peeve of mine.

BTW, Prince has been able to make an awful lot of money (doing some pretty racy stuff) in this supposedly fascistic society.
I abdicated the throne in Ithaca, but now I am...
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Reply #42 posted 04/17/09 12:12pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Love this song.

hug u took the words right out my mouth wink
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Reply #43 posted 04/17/09 1:07pm

janecarol

The song is great 2 me! The guitar is awesome and the chorus is fantastic. Great song IMO, Peace and Love
Love is whatever u want it 2 b
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Reply #44 posted 04/17/09 1:15pm

janecarol

Just one more quick note, Prince is alot smarter than some of u think. Just because you know alot doesnt mean ur a good song writer. I just feel some of u so called fans have nothing better to do than criticize somebody other than doing good for others or just being a positive person. Treat people as u wish to b treated is what I was taught. I just hate to hear all this bull about somebody people obviously are intrigued with or they wouldnt b here. God is Good! Its no wonder there will b no chat or forums in Lotus. Peace and love
Love is whatever u want it 2 b
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Reply #45 posted 04/17/09 1:57pm

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janecarol said:

Just one more quick note, Prince is alot smarter than some of u think. Just because you know alot doesnt mean ur a good song writer. I just feel some of u so called fans have nothing better to do than criticize somebody other than doing good for others or just being a positive person. Treat people as u wish to b treated is what I was taught. I just hate to hear all this bull about somebody people obviously are intrigued with or they wouldnt b here. God is Good! Its no wonder there will b no chat or forums in Lotus. Peace and love


stop admonishing people if you don't want to be admonished. you're bringing the negativity and it's likely to be reflected back at you.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #46 posted 04/17/09 3:44pm

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

I think it is the worst song Prince has ever done. In my opinion, he is the greatest musician of all time. That doesn't give him the privilege to "educate" people by making statements about science that are just plain ignorant or making statements about politics that show a lack of understanding.

Prince, please stick to music and stay away from politics or (especially) science. There is nothing thought provoking about it; it is just plain silly!

i agree with this. he's too saturated with his religion. he basically also says in this song (in jw fashion) that ppl are idiots for voting. his lil purple ass wouldn't have what he has now if it wasn't for the rights we all have VOTED for! punkass.
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Reply #47 posted 04/17/09 3:54pm

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The song is little more than plodding, easy listening dad rock with capable guitar work by Prince. The lyrics are uninformed and removed from reality. The great humor in this song comes from the title as Prince is the epitome of a colonized mind. He's been herded by his religious elders and now thinks, acts and says what they deem permissible. Fine enough, it's up to the individual, but to then write a song called Colonized Mind where you display a feeble grasp of the world at large and not only are willingly following new rules set down for you, as well as attempt to preach to your fans that they should do the same, the results are nothing short of laughable.
No hard feelings.
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Reply #48 posted 04/17/09 4:07pm

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rejinald said:

Darwintheorgangrinder said:

I think it is the worst song Prince has ever done. In my opinion, he is the greatest musician of all time. That doesn't give him the privilege to "educate" people by making statements about science that are just plain ignorant or making statements about politics that show a lack of understanding.

Prince, please stick to music and stay away from politics or (especially) science. There is nothing thought provoking about it; it is just plain silly!

i agree with this. he's too saturated with his religion. he basically also says in this song (in jw fashion) that ppl are idiots for voting. his lil purple ass wouldn't have what he has now if it wasn't for the rights we all have VOTED for! punkass.


Yep his two party criticism is disingenuous as his underlaying JW motivation is for no voting at all. Then theres the anti-single parent stuff about children with no respect for authority etc, leans havily on "The theocratic order".

Every last utterance is filtered through and attached with dogmatic propaganda these days. Who genuinely gets behind this religio-conservative babble? The praise for the lyrics is astounding.
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Reply #49 posted 04/17/09 4:41pm

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Dsoul said:

rejinald said:


i agree with this. he's too saturated with his religion. he basically also says in this song (in jw fashion) that ppl are idiots for voting. his lil purple ass wouldn't have what he has now if it wasn't for the rights we all have VOTED for! punkass.


Yep his two party criticism is disingenuous as his underlaying JW motivation is for no voting at all. Then theres the anti-single parent stuff about children with no respect for authority etc, leans havily on "The theocratic order".

Every last utterance is filtered through and attached with dogmatic propaganda these days. Who genuinely gets behind this religio-conservative babble? The praise for the lyrics is astounding.


the lyrics are vague enough that people are able to inject their own beliefs into it. prince sounds confident so when they see themselves in the lyrics they get to feel confident like prince.

it's how pop music works in general, but in this case we have the added insight into what we think prince really means (jw stuff).
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #50 posted 04/17/09 5:03pm

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Wall said:

The song is little more than plodding, easy listening dad rock with capable guitar work by Prince. The lyrics are uninformed and removed from reality. The great humor in this song comes from the title as Prince is the epitome of a colonized mind. He's been herded by his religious elders and now thinks, acts and says what they deem permissible. Fine enough, it's up to the individual, but to then write a song called Colonized Mind where you display a feeble grasp of the world at large and not only are willingly following new rules set down for you, as well as attempt to preach to your fans that they should do the same, the results are nothing short of laughable.


Damn. You make me hot(in a good way).
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Reply #51 posted 04/17/09 9:14pm

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xlr8r said:

I love the bass going off at the very last 30 second chorus.

And the live sound is what Ive been craving for.
It's so Hendrixian yet still Prince to me too.

Sounds truly inspired and not like the recent material i.e. searching to make pop hits. He stretched a bit here.

nod

From the 4:00 mark on, this good song turns great.
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Reply #52 posted 04/17/09 9:38pm

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Is it just me or is this song one of the best things he has recorded in the last twenty years? It's got that rare combination of cool guitar, a memorable melody and chorus/refrain, thought-provoking lyrics focusing on the wider world and it builds to a powerful crescendo. Although many have said they find the lyrics a bit hypocritical at least he seems to have crafted a meaningful SONG as opposed to a cool groove that he just jams on and apparently improvises some lyrics (Bria anybody?).

It's a bit of an updated 'Sign O' The Times', only slightly more judgemental and shows Prince to be quite an articulate guy.

Btw who's playing drums on 'Colonised Mind,'Wall of Berlin' and 'Dreamer'?



It's so true that this happens to be one of the best songs that he has done in awhile. The whole thing is great. Someone said it was honest and I agree.
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Reply #53 posted 04/17/09 10:33pm

SEXYMF2002

This song is amazing biggrin

I love the textures in it and how the guitar is subtle at times and rips later.

One of my fav tracks from the set
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Reply #54 posted 04/17/09 10:59pm

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bleh i think it's dreadful. the lyrics are so unbelievably terrible that it completely ruins the entire song.

but more power to you if you like it
cream.
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Reply #55 posted 04/18/09 1:23am

thebiscuit

I didn't know it until I heard it, but I've been waiting a long time for this song. even though I don't agree with all of its philosophical debate, it provokes thought, and the music is sublime. Def a Sign o' Today.
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Reply #56 posted 04/18/09 3:44am

dawn74

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My girlfriend said after hearing the song for the first time:

"Why is Prince singing about Rob Lowe?"

Rob Lowe, the two party system eek

(We're watching The West Wing)

Now everytime I hear the song, I hear Rob Lowe in stead of Upload...

.
Hope I didn't infect you too! wink
Love you till you're dead

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Reply #57 posted 04/18/09 7:51am

ThreadBare

dawn74 said:

My girlfriend said after hearing the song for the first time:

"Why is Prince singing about Rob Lowe?"

Rob Lowe, the two party system eek

(We're watching The West Wing)

Now everytime I hear the song, I hear Rob Lowe in stead of Upload...

.
Hope I didn't infect you too! wink

falloff
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Reply #58 posted 04/20/09 2:12pm

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PEJ said:

xlr8r said:



eek

lol

Nope folks, there was no follow up lol
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #59 posted 04/26/09 3:02pm

2elijah

I'm still loving this track. Has so much blues/rock intertwined in this song.
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