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Reply #240 posted 12/23/08 4:58am

lagantest

wouldnt you just love it if now we have heard these 4 new rock songs that an album of like 12 songs and he has 8 massive uptempo guitar screaming rock songs. wouldnt that be amazing!
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Reply #241 posted 12/23/08 6:12am

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love2thenines2003 said:

For your knowledge & pleasure!

Again, the Director of Indie 103 has heard the entire CD, the tracks had transitions. He explains that the album begins by four minutes and explosive instrumental intro & the song Crimson & Clover emerges from nowhere from this instrumental intro.
He added that all the tracks are very "heavy" on guitar from beginning to end. That themselves have been surprised by this very spirit Rock and, to their enthusiasm, Prince has released four pieces.
[b]Prince said they have scheduled a series of concerts for the release of the CD. [/b]

Very cool mews.
I love transitions in music. It will give the project a conceptual feel. cool
Judging by the "sound" of the tracks, TWNBALM not included, it will also be a very live band affair as well. These four songs remind me of The Undertaker project mixed with the What's My Name/Calhoun Square stuff from Crystal Ball.Add some cool transitions/instrumental stuff and you got N.E.W.S. as well
Which would be cool. As a fully realized project,this would be something kinda new for a Prince.
Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
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Reply #242 posted 12/23/08 6:24am

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More exact. Like a stripped down TRC/N.E.W.S. (love both) without the overt religious themes and proselytizing. With an Undertaker project approach.
It's fun guessing. cool
Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
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Reply #243 posted 12/23/08 8:17am

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daPrettyman said:

NuPwr319 said:



Good post. clapping

Agreed.

The thing that gets me about today's music business is that they overlook the older singers and musicians.

I was thinking the other day when I was listening to the 80s channel on XM. They played "Cocomo" from the Beach Boys, "Susudio" from Phil Collins, and "I've Had The Time of My Life" from Dirty Dancing. I, then remembered that the majority of those artists wouldn't get any radio play now. In the 80s, it seemed that we actually paid homage to our musical icons. In the 80s, you had LOTS of people on the charts that were over 40 making hits and getting LOTS of radio play along with the youngsters of the time (Prince, Madonna, etc.). Hell, even James Brown managed to get a few hits out of the 80s.
I wish times would be like that again, but I know it won't happen. The youngsters now have no respect for their elders.



That's because the labels do NOT want to pay royalties. That is the reason why Hip-Hop is so huge now because these rappers are throw away and will not have a career that will span decades.Then after people like James Brown and Rick James are dead you start to hear their music everywhere.
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Reply #244 posted 12/23/08 9:07am

jaypotton

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[snip] Is it all great - no, but it never was. That's the beauty of art, you never know what you are going to create until you create it. I am just thankful that he continues to create and SHARE it with us because I dig what I'm hearing overall. biggrin


So true. Many of us long term fans have got our rose coloured spectacles on when we think back to the 80s. What we forget includes:

1. The musical landscape was very different and what Prince did was NEW and EXCITING

2. We were all much younger and going along on a musical journey of discovery that, for most of us, coincided with us going through puberty/teenage and all those amazing changes you experience as you grow up

3. We had not yet become cynical spoilt adults (been there, heard that, got the t-shirt)

4. And finally, perhaps controversially for any of the FAMS, I would argue that pretty much every single Prince album contains at least one DUD TRACK!

Okay define DUD. Well that is of course going to depend on your personal taste but by way of example; for me Purple Rain's dud track is I Would Die 4 U - I hate it and just cannot listen to it, ever! Strangely my wife, who is not a Prince fan, loves that track - go figure!

Prince is 50. The world is a different place. So much musical ground has been covered (both by Prince and by others) since the 80s that there is simply no way he could continue to be "original" or "ground-breaking".

As said before...I just hope he continues to deliver good solid music that *I* enjoy!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #245 posted 12/23/08 9:49am

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jaypotton said:

bellanoche said:

[snip] Is it all great - no, but it never was. That's the beauty of art, you never know what you are going to create until you create it. I am just thankful that he continues to create and SHARE it with us because I dig what I'm hearing overall. biggrin


So true. Many of us long term fans have got our rose coloured spectacles on when we think back to the 80s. What we forget includes:

1. The musical landscape was very different and what Prince did was NEW and EXCITING

2. We were all much younger and going along on a musical journey of discovery that, for most of us, coincided with us going through puberty/teenage and all those amazing changes you experience as you grow up

3. We had not yet become cynical spoilt adults (been there, heard that, got the t-shirt)

4. And finally, perhaps controversially for any of the FAMS, I would argue that pretty much every single Prince album contains at least one DUD TRACK!

Okay define DUD. Well that is of course going to depend on your personal taste but by way of example; for me Purple Rain's dud track is I Would Die 4 U - I hate it and just cannot listen to it, ever! Strangely my wife, who is not a Prince fan, loves that track - go figure!

Prince is 50. The world is a different place. So much musical ground has been covered (both by Prince and by others) since the 80s that there is simply no way he could continue to be "original" or "ground-breaking".

As said before...I just hope he continues to deliver good solid music that *I* enjoy!

Everything you said is the truth but the bolded part in particular speaks to me the most. All I've ever wanted from Prince was good, solid music. I didn't care if the music was experimental or sounded like it came from another world. All I cared about was that I liked the music or not. I cared that Prince's music made me dance and that I felt the music. It'll be 25 years of me being a fan next year and as young as I was when I became a fan and now, I can say that I still care and I'm still excited about what the future brings for Prince and for us fans. These 5 new tracks solidify why I'm still excited about Prince. As long as I still have that excitement, I will always remain a Prince fan. Real talk.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #246 posted 12/23/08 9:49am

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Prince doesn't want to use record labels etc.....Jeez, if these songs were a demo from a new band there wouldn't really be much of a choice as no label would touch these songs. If they did it would be to make money out of his established name. Lame lame lame. He's not even treading water anymore, just sinking into some awful safe middle ground of blues-lite college band level jams.
I wish he'd stop for a while. Go trekking in India or something. It's really starting to ruin my enjoyment of his good stuff.
"Prince don't hear Ravel when he wanna make love to his woman. He hears drums and shit." Miles Davis
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Reply #247 posted 12/23/08 10:17am

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williammelvinhicks said:

Prince doesn't want to use record labels etc.....Jeez, if these songs were a demo from a new band there wouldn't really be much of a choice as no label would touch these songs. If they did it would be to make money out of his established name. Lame lame lame. He's not even treading water anymore, just sinking into some awful safe middle ground of blues-lite college band level jams.
I wish he'd stop for a while. Go trekking in India or something. It's really starting to ruin my enjoyment of his good stuff.


If he does stop, I still want new material every year. It is hard to get through a year without something new from him.
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Reply #248 posted 12/23/08 10:23am

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daPrettyman said:

williammelvinhicks said:

Prince doesn't want to use record labels etc.....Jeez, if these songs were a demo from a new band there wouldn't really be much of a choice as no label would touch these songs. If they did it would be to make money out of his established name. Lame lame lame. He's not even treading water anymore, just sinking into some awful safe middle ground of blues-lite college band level jams.
I wish he'd stop for a while. Go trekking in India or something. It's really starting to ruin my enjoyment of his good stuff.


If he does stop, I still want new material every year. It is hard to get through a year without something new from him.

How will we get new material if he stop recording? The Vault? Please, people will shit all over that too, so it's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #249 posted 12/23/08 1:12pm

bellanoche

purplecam said:

jaypotton said:



So true. Many of us long term fans have got our rose coloured spectacles on when we think back to the 80s. What we forget includes:

1. The musical landscape was very different and what Prince did was NEW and EXCITING

2. We were all much younger and going along on a musical journey of discovery that, for most of us, coincided with us going through puberty/teenage and all those amazing changes you experience as you grow up

3. We had not yet become cynical spoilt adults (been there, heard that, got the t-shirt)

4. And finally, perhaps controversially for any of the FAMS, I would argue that pretty much every single Prince album contains at least one DUD TRACK!

Okay define DUD. Well that is of course going to depend on your personal taste but by way of example; for me Purple Rain's dud track is I Would Die 4 U - I hate it and just cannot listen to it, ever! Strangely my wife, who is not a Prince fan, loves that track - go figure!

Prince is 50. The world is a different place. So much musical ground has been covered (both by Prince and by others) since the 80s that there is simply no way he could continue to be "original" or "ground-breaking".

As said before...I just hope he continues to deliver good solid music that *I* enjoy!

Everything you said is the truth but the bolded part in particular speaks to me the most. All I've ever wanted from Prince was good, solid music. I didn't care if the music was experimental or sounded like it came from another world. All I cared about was that I liked the music or not. I cared that Prince's music made me dance and that I felt the music. It'll be 25 years of me being a fan next year and as young as I was when I became a fan and now, I can say that I still care and I'm still excited about what the future brings for Prince and for us fans. These 5 new tracks solidify why I'm still excited about Prince. As long as I still have that excitement, I will always remain a Prince fan. Real talk.


I cannot agree more! Every album that Prince has released has had music on it that reaffirmed why I have been a fan for so long. There are songs that cover the range of my emotions and life experiences on every album. I am 33 and I have been listening to Prince since I was about 6 or 7 years old. As a longtime fan, I really cannot complain about his overall output.

Like you, that is all I have ever wanted - good, solid music that I can enjoy. He has never had to reinvent the wheel for me. I never imagined life without my Prince music playing in the background, and the great thing is that I do not have to. What's even better is that I do not have to have the same songs playing in the background! I can count on something new to add to the mix every year or so without fail. How many fans of other artists can say that? He still continues to create good music.

As JP says, there have always been "duds," but the "duds" are relative. For example, off of PR, I LOVE "I Would Die 4 U," but I was never keen on "Take Me With U." The wonderful thing is that the garden is so beautiful overall that a weed or two doesn't disturb its beauty - those weeds are just parts of nature.
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Reply #250 posted 12/23/08 2:01pm

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bellanoche said:

purplecam said:


Everything you said is the truth but the bolded part in particular speaks to me the most. All I've ever wanted from Prince was good, solid music. I didn't care if the music was experimental or sounded like it came from another world. All I cared about was that I liked the music or not. I cared that Prince's music made me dance and that I felt the music. It'll be 25 years of me being a fan next year and as young as I was when I became a fan and now, I can say that I still care and I'm still excited about what the future brings for Prince and for us fans. These 5 new tracks solidify why I'm still excited about Prince. As long as I still have that excitement, I will always remain a Prince fan. Real talk.


I cannot agree more! Every album that Prince has released has had music on it that reaffirmed why I have been a fan for so long. There are songs that cover the range of my emotions and life experiences on every album. I am 33 and I have been listening to Prince since I was about 6 or 7 years old. As a longtime fan, I really cannot complain about his overall output.

Like you, that is all I have ever wanted - good, solid music that I can enjoy. He has never had to reinvent the wheel for me. I never imagined life without my Prince music playing in the background, and the great thing is that I do not have to. What's even better is that I do not have to have the same songs playing in the background! I can count on something new to add to the mix every year or so without fail. How many fans of other artists can say that? He still continues to create good music.

As JP says, there have always been "duds," but the "duds" are relative. For example, off of PR, I LOVE "I Would Die 4 U," but I was never keen on "Take Me With U." The wonderful thing is that the garden is so beautiful overall that a weed or two doesn't disturb its beauty - those weeds are just parts of nature.

Post like yours bellanoche that show me that I'm not crazy for digging all parts of Prince's music. highfive

Of course, there are duds on all of his CD's but the majority has been pure treasure and I value the treasure. Every now and then the dull songs or albums start to shine and it's beautiful when it does. This is not ass kissing, this is the truth for me. Prince rocks, PERIOD!
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #251 posted 12/23/08 2:32pm

FrankieDJ

Prince is buggin' again tho yall! Forget the record companies, people are sellin' their music on MySpace, itunes etc. and the singles are free downloads now! Prince is still awesome from what I'm hearin', I'll buy the album only if it's a download, I do agree, however, that Prince is nuts to hold his new music back when there are all these options and avenues. And no more Prince vinyl? What up wit that?

LondonStyle said:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/12/18/prince-premieres-four-new-songs-on-las-indie-103-new-album-on-the-way/ biggrin

Los Angeles’ rock radio station Indie 103 was “summoned” to go up to Prince’s home this past week to preview his new album. According to the station’s “Mr. Shovel,” Prince doesn’t have a record label and “wants nothing to do with record labels, so he’s meeting with people to figure out how to operate at his level without a record label.” Following a long conversation with the Purple Rain star, the radio reps were played the new album in Prince’s home entertainment theatre. “It’s heavy, rockin’, and our enthusiasm was immediate,” Mr. Shovel said. Prince then said the station could preview a few of the new songs on Indie 103, so that’s where we were today at 3 p.m.

The album kicks off with an explosive, four-minute instrumental before launching into the first song that was played on the radio… Prince covering Tommy James & the Shondells’ “Crimson & Clover,” with the Purple One altering the lyrics as he’s been known to do during his cover performances. Keeping with the original, the vocals sound like Prince is submerged under water. Things deviate at the chorus, however, as Prince belts out the “ooh baby, I think I love you” part of Jimi Hendrix’s “Foxy Lady.”

“Colonized Mind” was the second song played. Another laid-back guitar joint, it seems like Prince’s intention on this album is to make people stop dancing and just chill. More aquatic layering on Prince’s voice as he sings politicized lyrics with lyrics along the lines of “Did you know your record deal was another way for ‘The Man’ to steal.” Yeah, we don’t think Prince wants anything to do with record labels. The guitar solo is killer, out-guitaring the entirety of Planet Earth’s “Guitar,” before the chorus returns.

“Wall of Berlin” was the third song played. Again, more guitar virtuosity by Prince. If he’s aiming to make an album similar to Side C of Electric Ladyland, he’s off to a good start. The songs also sound more intimate, like the Artist recorded these songs without any Revolution and New Power Generation behind him. “4ever” is the ballad, with Prince busting out the piano before being joined by backup singers. It’s not “Free,” “Ballad of Dorothy Parker” or “Sometimes It Snows In April,” but it’s still a solid, latter-day Prince slow dance as he ruminates about marriage and being with someone, well, 4ever.

And that’s all we get. For now, at least. Again, according to the DJs, Prince’s new album is finished and he’s just looking for a non-record label vessel in which to release it. We’ll keep you posted in what promises to be a busy year for Prince.

Daniel Kreps
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Reply #252 posted 12/23/08 2:38pm

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daPrettyman said:

williammelvinhicks said:

Prince doesn't want to use record labels etc.....Jeez, if these songs were a demo from a new band there wouldn't really be much of a choice as no label would touch these songs. If they did it would be to make money out of his established name. Lame lame lame. He's not even treading water anymore, just sinking into some awful safe middle ground of blues-lite college band level jams.
I wish he'd stop for a while. Go trekking in India or something. It's really starting to ruin my enjoyment of his good stuff.


If he does stop, I still want new material every year. It is hard to get through a year without something new from him.



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Reply #253 posted 12/23/08 2:39pm

Anxiety

Reading this thread, I think perhaps I might have evolved in my fammyness over the years.

The extreme opinions - both the extremely positive and the extremely negative - register as little more than static, whereas in the old timey days such highly polarized opinions used to get my goat and gripe my ass.

The wildly negative comments aren't making me like the new tracks any less, and the frothy fam freakouts aren't in any way influencing me to like the new tracks any more than I already did.

The most interesting comments on this thread, to me, honestly, are the ones that seem genuinely balanced. "I liked this, didn't like that, not sure what I think of the other." Cuz, I don't know, in my experience, that's how real people really respond to art the first time around.

Which is not to say the haters aren't genuinely hatey or that the fams aren't genuinely fammy. It's just that, this time around, those extreme screaming opinions don't seem to mean as much, and they aren't getting in the way of me forming my own opinion in my own time. shrug

I hope other people are able to take some of the louder voices on this thread with a grain of salt and honor your own opinions and responses, cuz at the end of the day, it's what YOU think that really matters. nod

Anyway, that's my rant. I'm gonna go find Romy and fold scarves now. wave
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Reply #254 posted 12/23/08 2:39pm

FrankieDJ

Oh snap, Prince should sell the new cd on ebay 4 $9.99 buy it now and burn them/sell them himself! Who's gonna stop him if he owns the master copy! LOL! Pissin' my pants over here!

FrankieDJ said:

Prince is buggin' again tho yall! Forget the record companies, people are sellin' their music on MySpace, itunes etc. and the singles are free downloads now! Prince is still awesome from what I'm hearin', I'll buy the album only if it's a download, I do agree, however, that Prince is nuts to hold his new music back when there are all these options and avenues. And no more Prince vinyl? What up wit that?

LondonStyle said:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/12/18/prince-premieres-four-new-songs-on-las-indie-103-new-album-on-the-way/ biggrin

Los Angeles’ rock radio station Indie 103 was “summoned” to go up to Prince’s home this past week to preview his new album. According to the station’s “Mr. Shovel,” Prince doesn’t have a record label and “wants nothing to do with record labels, so he’s meeting with people to figure out how to operate at his level without a record label.” Following a long conversation with the Purple Rain star, the radio reps were played the new album in Prince’s home entertainment theatre. “It’s heavy, rockin’, and our enthusiasm was immediate,” Mr. Shovel said. Prince then said the station could preview a few of the new songs on Indie 103, so that’s where we were today at 3 p.m.

The album kicks off with an explosive, four-minute instrumental before launching into the first song that was played on the radio… Prince covering Tommy James & the Shondells’ “Crimson & Clover,” with the Purple One altering the lyrics as he’s been known to do during his cover performances. Keeping with the original, the vocals sound like Prince is submerged under water. Things deviate at the chorus, however, as Prince belts out the “ooh baby, I think I love you” part of Jimi Hendrix’s “Foxy Lady.”

“Colonized Mind” was the second song played. Another laid-back guitar joint, it seems like Prince’s intention on this album is to make people stop dancing and just chill. More aquatic layering on Prince’s voice as he sings politicized lyrics with lyrics along the lines of “Did you know your record deal was another way for ‘The Man’ to steal.” Yeah, we don’t think Prince wants anything to do with record labels. The guitar solo is killer, out-guitaring the entirety of Planet Earth’s “Guitar,” before the chorus returns.

“Wall of Berlin” was the third song played. Again, more guitar virtuosity by Prince. If he’s aiming to make an album similar to Side C of Electric Ladyland, he’s off to a good start. The songs also sound more intimate, like the Artist recorded these songs without any Revolution and New Power Generation behind him. “4ever” is the ballad, with Prince busting out the piano before being joined by backup singers. It’s not “Free,” “Ballad of Dorothy Parker” or “Sometimes It Snows In April,” but it’s still a solid, latter-day Prince slow dance as he ruminates about marriage and being with someone, well, 4ever.

And that’s all we get. For now, at least. Again, according to the DJs, Prince’s new album is finished and he’s just looking for a non-record label vessel in which to release it. We’ll keep you posted in what promises to be a busy year for Prince.

Daniel Kreps
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Reply #255 posted 12/23/08 6:53pm

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of course my Mac froze and was in the shop while all this was happening!
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Reply #256 posted 12/23/08 7:06pm

Anxiety

FrankieDJ said:

Oh snap, Prince should sell the new cd on ebay 4 $9.99 buy it now and burn them/sell them himself! Who's gonna stop him if he owns the master copy! LOL! Pissin' my pants over here!


that would be a riot. falloff

if prince sold a bunch of EPs as homemade burned CD-rs on eBay, complete with poorly photographed product pic and a description full of typos (all done completely on purpose to mess with everyone)...of course, with a disclaimer stating the EP was 100% legit...i'd be interested to see who'd actually believe it was a joke.

do it, prince - do it! lol
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Reply #257 posted 12/23/08 7:08pm

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Anxiety said:

FrankieDJ said:

Oh snap, Prince should sell the new cd on ebay 4 $9.99 buy it now and burn them/sell them himself! Who's gonna stop him if he owns the master copy! LOL! Pissin' my pants over here!


that would be a riot. falloff

if prince sold a bunch of EPs as homemade burned CD-rs on eBay, complete with poorly photographed product pic and a description full of typos (all done completely on purpose to mess with everyone)...of course, with a disclaimer stating the EP was 100% legit...i'd be interested to see who'd actually believe it was a joke.

do it, prince - do it! lol



makes me think of Ice Cubes Bootlegs and B-Sides cd....that piece of tape had me goin for a sec.
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Reply #258 posted 12/23/08 10:30pm

Billmenever

4Ever
Stop looking at me like that
less your wanting me
to bite dat
4Ever
4Ever
Eternity is just one kiss away
What you say?



Has to love in the need nod
Thanks for all the music P.
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Reply #259 posted 12/23/08 11:28pm

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All in all, the new material has evoked the worst possible reaction from me: near apathy.

Aside from the genuinely atrocious There'll Never Be Another Like Me, this batch of new songs is simply not all that memorable.

The lyrics aren't offensively bad, but they're mostly ineffectual (aside from maybe Colonized Mind). The melodies themselves seem to take a wrong turn into something forgettable and generic just as they sound like they had the potential to turn really catchy.

If the late 90's was the era of bad Prince music, this is the era of mediocre Prince music.

On the one hand, I'm grateful that he hasn't recorded a bunch of new songs as bad as Hot Wit U or Push It Up. On the other hand, it's starting to seem more and more likely that the new Prince album will be yet another that I'm compelled to play only a few times and then forget about before I throw on Sign 'O' the Times for the millionth time.
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Reply #260 posted 12/24/08 6:59am

BrianM

I must laugh at the part in the article that states Prince is looking for a non-label outlet for the CD. He already had it and shut it down, www.npgmusicclub.com. Put it out there for digital download. Bring back the club or put in on iTunes. Did he not set the net on fire when he was one of the first to do this?

As for the songs, add Turn Me Loose and it could be a very interesting release.

Brian
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Reply #261 posted 12/24/08 7:44am

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Anxiety said:

Reading this thread, I think perhaps I might have evolved in my fammyness over the years.

The extreme opinions - both the extremely positive and the extremely negative - register as little more than static, whereas in the old timey days such highly polarized opinions used to get my goat and gripe my ass.

The wildly negative comments aren't making me like the new tracks any less, and the frothy fam freakouts aren't in any way influencing me to like the new tracks any more than I already did.

The most interesting comments on this thread, to me, honestly, are the ones that seem genuinely balanced. "I liked this, didn't like that, not sure what I think of the other." Cuz, I don't know, in my experience, that's how real people really respond to art the first time around.

Which is not to say the haters aren't genuinely hatey or that the fams aren't genuinely fammy. It's just that, this time around, those extreme screaming opinions don't seem to mean as much, and they aren't getting in the way of me forming my own opinion in my own time. shrug

I hope other people are able to take some of the louder voices on this thread with a grain of salt and honor your own opinions and responses, cuz at the end of the day, it's what YOU think that really matters. nod

Anyway, that's my rant. I'm gonna go find Romy and fold scarves now. wave



Prince has done plenty of stuff that I don't like I just happen to like these four demos, its just fits my taste really well, so how do we distinguish positive feed back from fammy? And what makes positive feedback extreme? I mean the new tracks are not perfect but i like stripped down jamming ( just trying to make sure i am not in the fammy family ) I hate that term lol
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Reply #262 posted 12/24/08 7:57am

Anxiety

Meloh9 said:

Anxiety said:

Reading this thread, I think perhaps I might have evolved in my fammyness over the years.

The extreme opinions - both the extremely positive and the extremely negative - register as little more than static, whereas in the old timey days such highly polarized opinions used to get my goat and gripe my ass.

The wildly negative comments aren't making me like the new tracks any less, and the frothy fam freakouts aren't in any way influencing me to like the new tracks any more than I already did.

The most interesting comments on this thread, to me, honestly, are the ones that seem genuinely balanced. "I liked this, didn't like that, not sure what I think of the other." Cuz, I don't know, in my experience, that's how real people really respond to art the first time around.

Which is not to say the haters aren't genuinely hatey or that the fams aren't genuinely fammy. It's just that, this time around, those extreme screaming opinions don't seem to mean as much, and they aren't getting in the way of me forming my own opinion in my own time. shrug

I hope other people are able to take some of the louder voices on this thread with a grain of salt and honor your own opinions and responses, cuz at the end of the day, it's what YOU think that really matters. nod

Anyway, that's my rant. I'm gonna go find Romy and fold scarves now. wave



Prince has done plenty of stuff that I don't like I just happen to like these four demos, its just fits my taste really well, so how do we distinguish positive feed back from fammy? And what makes positive feedback extreme? I mean the new tracks are not perfect but i like stripped down jamming ( just trying to make sure i am not in the fammy family ) I hate that term lol


by "fammy" i mean those who will shoot anyone down for posting any comments that are in the least bit critical, as if prince is incapable of creating anything that is ever less than perfect. i think prince is brilliant, but anyone as prolific as him is bound to toss out a few clunkers now and then. it doesn't make him a bad artist - it just means some of the things he throws out there stick for some people, and some of those things don't stick for others.

i happen to think all the new songs he recently previewed are just fine. they're not the greatest tracks ever, but i don't think they're rotten either. i like them better than anything from "planet earth", but i really disliked that album, so i'm not setting the bar very high, lol.

but if other people are honestly getting an immense amount of pleasure from the new songs, god bless 'em. and if other people are deeply disappointed by the songs, well, i guess bless them too, ha.

it's just those people who confuse their personal responses and opinions with objective fact who i'm tuning out.
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Reply #263 posted 12/24/08 9:38am

AGNTHVC

The new music is where he needs to be. I have been crying and complaining that this is where he needed to get back to for years. . my friends can vouch for that. . . now that he realizes this i hope he continues to do songs in the formula he is doing now. taking us on wonderful imaginative rides of enjoyment in stead of all the personal ego rides. i pay for music and you make the music i pay for. i dont care about riffs with your record company and what you think about fans being upset with you or posting a video of their kids dancing to your old hits and you filing a law suite. i want to go on my ride that you provide and i will pay the money to stand in line to see you jam under the hot stage lights.

prince will not find a major money load from a new CD if the music aint slamming. I dont care who you are and what you have done inthe music game. he is up against garbage artist that make a senseless killing with record companies that overlaod us with their garbage artery clogging music and they are making a killing because we buy that crap. So Prince is first goign to ahve to put together a killer project again and then he can shatter the record company methods of making a profit from artists. Also you arent going to sign a 50/50 deal and get the marketing you need unless you are doing half or most the marketing you need to make the killing you are trying to make with an alternative record venture ( without a major record company).

So since this is all about who is getting the most money,(greed) it is going to be hard for him to hit the top again without a major deal and i mean the top as in number 1 for months not just 2 or 3 weeks. To come to the USA and sell out every STADIUM he book for mutiple shows like you once did. that is prince's goal but with the way the industry ( record or internet ) is today he wont be able to do it without a record company. but he ca andwill have to start with a smashing new project. without that . . he's got no leverage. none.
THIS IS A BIDNISS, AND YALL AINT TO FAR GONE TO SEE DAT YET. love the new tracks. sorry about typos. . peace
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Reply #264 posted 12/24/08 9:46am

AGNTHVC

FrankieDJ said:

Prince is buggin' again tho yall! Forget the record companies, people are sellin' their music on MySpace, itunes etc. and the singles are free downloads now! Prince is still awesome from what I'm hearin', I'll buy the album only if it's a download, I do agree, however, that Prince is nuts to hold his new music back when there are all these options and avenues. And no more Prince vinyl? What up wit that?

LondonStyle said:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/12/18/prince-premieres-four-new-songs-on-las-indie-103-new-album-on-the-way/ biggrin

Los Angeles’ rock radio station Indie 103 was “summoned” to go up to Prince’s home this past week to preview his new album. According to the station’s “Mr. Shovel,” Prince doesn’t have a record label and “wants nothing to do with record labels, so he’s meeting with people to figure out how to operate at his level without a record label.” Following a long conversation with the Purple Rain star, the radio reps were played the new album in Prince’s home entertainment theatre. “It’s heavy, rockin’, and our enthusiasm was immediate,” Mr. Shovel said. Prince then said the station could preview a few of the new songs on Indie 103, so that’s where we were today at 3 p.m.

The album kicks off with an explosive, four-minute instrumental before launching into the first song that was played on the radio… Prince covering Tommy James & the Shondells’ “Crimson & Clover,” with the Purple One altering the lyrics as he’s been known to do during his cover performances. Keeping with the original, the vocals sound like Prince is submerged under water. Things deviate at the chorus, however, as Prince belts out the “ooh baby, I think I love you” part of Jimi Hendrix’s “Foxy Lady.”

“Colonized Mind” was the second song played. Another laid-back guitar joint, it seems like Prince’s intention on this album is to make people stop dancing and just chill. More aquatic layering on Prince’s voice as he sings politicized lyrics with lyrics along the lines of “Did you know your record deal was another way for ‘The Man’ to steal.” Yeah, we don’t think Prince wants anything to do with record labels. The guitar solo is killer, out-guitaring the entirety of Planet Earth’s “Guitar,” before the chorus returns.

“Wall of Berlin” was the third song played. Again, more guitar virtuosity by Prince. If he’s aiming to make an album similar to Side C of Electric Ladyland, he’s off to a good start. The songs also sound more intimate, like the Artist recorded these songs without any Revolution and New Power Generation behind him. “4ever” is the ballad, with Prince busting out the piano before being joined by backup singers. It’s not “Free,” “Ballad of Dorothy Parker” or “Sometimes It Snows In April,” but it’s still a solid, latter-day Prince slow dance as he ruminates about marriage and being with someone, well, 4ever.

And that’s all we get. For now, at least. Again, according to the DJs, Prince’s new album is finished and he’s just looking for a non-record label vessel in which to release it. We’ll keep you posted in what promises to be a busy year for Prince.

Daniel Kreps


PRINCE WANTS ALL THE MONEY HE CAN GET FOR HIS MUSIC WITHOUT SPLITTING IT WITH ANYONE ELSE- (GREED)
HE WONT TO MYSPACE ETC BECAUSE OF PIRACY. YOU CAN GET ANY MYSPACE PLAYED MUSIC FREE. IF YOU CAN HEAR IT YOU CAN STEAL IT. SO HE WONT GO THAT WAY. DOWNLOADS TO. I DOWNLOAD IT/ BURN TO DISC/ GIVE MY FRIEND A COPY / PRINCE DONT LIKE DAT NIEVER. . . HE WANTS A WAY THE HE CAN SELL YOU A COPY AND THEN YOU CAN FORWARD IT ON AT ALL. . . HE WILL DIE WAITING FOR A WAY TO DO THIS.
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Reply #265 posted 12/24/08 9:54am

AGNTHVC

Anxiety said:

Meloh9 said:




Prince has done plenty of stuff that I don't like I just happen to like these four demos, its just fits my taste really well, so how do we distinguish positive feed back from fammy? And what makes positive feedback extreme? I mean the new tracks are not perfect but i like stripped down jamming ( just trying to make sure i am not in the fammy family ) I hate that term lol


by "fammy" i mean those who will shoot anyone down for posting any comments that are in the least bit critical, as if prince is incapable of creating anything that is ever less than perfect. i think prince is brilliant, but anyone as prolific as him is bound to toss out a few clunkers now and then. it doesn't make him a bad artist - it just means some of the things he throws out there stick for some people, and some of those things don't stick for others.

i happen to think all the new songs he recently previewed are just fine. they're not the greatest tracks ever, but i don't think they're rotten either. i like them better than anything from "planet earth", but i really disliked that album, so i'm not setting the bar very high, lol.

but if other people are honestly getting an immense amount of pleasure from the new songs, god bless 'em. and if other people are deeply disappointed by the songs, well, i guess bless them too, ha.

it's just those people who confuse their personal responses and opinions with objective fact who i'm tuning out.



i agree . . anyone that thinks he cant do worng at all is a worshipper. they hold him as a god os sorts. he has been off musically and he knows it because he is doing things like letting the radio guys hear his new stuff so he can create a buzz and such to get the money in our pockets ready to shell out. planet earth in my opinion was not good, but average demo jams. but i will be hunted and crucified for typing prince blasphemy. this is my opinon. good to see you are your own prince fan
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Reply #266 posted 12/24/08 11:06am

Hutchi

Crimson & Clover and 4ever are probably the best 2 Prince songs in a decade, easily infact. Cant get enuff of those 2 tunes at the moment. The other 2 r good aswell.

New album should be good!
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Reply #267 posted 12/24/08 3:47pm

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All in all, the new material has evoked the worst possible reaction from me: near apathy.

Aside from the genuinely atrocious There'll Never Be Another Like Me, this batch of new songs is simply not all that memorable.

The lyrics aren't offensively bad, but they're mostly ineffectual (aside from maybe Colonized Mind). The melodies themselves seem to take a wrong turn into something forgettable and generic just as they sound like they had the potential to turn really catchy.

If the late 90's was the era of bad Prince music, this is the era of mediocre Prince music.

On the one hand, I'm grateful that he hasn't recorded a bunch of new songs as bad as Hot Wit U or Push It Up. On the other hand, it's starting to seem more and more likely that the new Prince album will be yet another that I'm compelled to play only a few times and then forget about before I throw on Sign 'O' the Times for the millionth time.


Well said. As I noted in my review of the tracks, there are moments, such as when he plays guitar that are certainly capable, but as a whole this is another batch of songs that are incredibly bland. But even the guitar lines he plays sound exactly like the same tired lines he's been playing for years. There's nothing fresh here and the fact that the songs sound perfect for adult rock stations isn't helping their cause. There no sense of excitment, urgency or experimentation, just dull music with naive lyrics that are as deep as a puddle.

Forever in particular is painful to listen to. As I've noted, hearing a 50 year old man who's been married twice singing lyrics that sound more fitting for a teen pop star is nothing short of tragic. It's as if Prince is in a state of arrested development. I thought perhaps one plus of his conversion to a religious zealot was that his lyrics might mature past the lustful come ons of his earlier material, but instead of becoming more reflective and mature, he simply sounds like a 14 year old going through a bout of intense puppy love. Pathetic, comical songwriting.

In the end, whatever album these songs come from, will likely have one, or possibly, two, tracks that might fit for a late era Prince 'sorta best of' collection, but if what we've been given is any indication, this will be yet another release of throw away, limp music.
No hard feelings.
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Reply #268 posted 12/25/08 12:05am

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Bfunkthe1 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

For your knowledge & pleasure!

Again, the Director of Indie 103 has heard the entire CD, the tracks had transitions. He explains that the album begins by four minutes and explosive instrumental intro & the song Crimson & Clover emerges from nowhere from this instrumental intro.
He added that all the tracks are very "heavy" on guitar from beginning to end. That themselves have been surprised by this very spirit Rock and, to their enthusiasm, Prince has released four pieces.
[b]Prince said they have scheduled a series of concerts for the release of the CD. [/b]

Very cool mews.
I love transitions in music. It will give the project a conceptual feel. cool
Judging by the "sound" of the tracks, TWNBALM not included, it will also be a very live band affair as well. These four songs remind me of The Undertaker project mixed with the What's My Name/Calhoun Square stuff from Crystal Ball.Add some cool transitions/instrumental stuff and you got N.E.W.S. as well
Which would be cool.
As a fully realized project,this would be something kinda new for a Prince.


YUP headbang
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Reply #269 posted 12/25/08 7:18am

datdude

these whiny ass b%#$es on this site are making it unbearable. less than 10 posts in, and they're already moaning like some stuck pigs. cre8 a new section on the site for such types already geeez!
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