purplecam said:

Last night was good, but last year's was just as historic. First time there was a black coach, let alone two, in the big game, plus the rain, that was a first too. And it was in Miami, which is obviously P's kinda town. I loved that his suits were in the colors of the University of Miami and Dolphins colors. He pimped out that Superbowl in Miami! Somehow, Glendale Arizona doesn't seem as glamarous and lacks flava.

I know this is probably abit off topic, but there is some great debate going on about live performances. To those of you that have not seen U2 live, next time they are in location near to you, make sure to get a ticket, they will blow you mind. I first saw U2 in 87, it was the last show of the Joshua Tree tour, and it was in my hometown, Cork. At the time I was totally anti-U2, basically coz everyone was into them, there would be major arguements and discussions about Joshua Tree Versus SOTT. This even prompted one of P´s most famous quote´s after the grammy awards, where U2 had just taken the award for best album, P´s reply was to say, "OK, I can do that, but U2 cant do the Housequake" . In 95 P put U2 lead singer Bono to the test, at an aftershow in Dublin, they sang The Cross together, which of course was the song which P had made reference to back at the grammy awards. I have heard the version they did, Bono kept forgetting the lyrics

Anyway, in 87, after the dissappointment of SOTT london show´s being cancelled, I went to the U2 concert, I was expecting it to be similiar to basically listening to U2´s music on a loud stereo, but boy was I wrong, from the moment they came on stage, it was a total party, one of the best show´s I was ever at. I have since seen them two more times, 2001 & 2005, both in Vienna. Again, I have never witnessed any band that can get an audience into such a frenzy. I have seen alot of concerts in Vienna, including Springsteen and The Stones, and an Austrian audience is very difficult to get on their feet, but both times U2 had the place jumping from start to finish. The 2005 concert was extra special, as it was on the same day that Live 8 was done, and the show started late, as U2 had to fly in from London.

If I was to look at it from a neutral perspective, U2 are probably the best live act in the world, they sure know how to get people into a complete frenzy. BTW, U2 3D is probably at a cinema near you, from what I have heard, it is almost as good as the real thing

my apologies for Hi-jacking the thread

RodeoSchro said:

That was nice, but didn't that appear weeks later during the grammys? I don't think it was right after the performance.

I know this is probably abit off topic, but there is some great debate going on about live performances. To those of you that have not seen U2 live, next time they are in location near to you, make sure to get a ticket, they will blow you mind. I first saw U2 in 87, it was the last show of the Joshua Tree tour, and it was in my hometown, Cork. At the time I was totally anti-U2, basically coz everyone was into them, there would be major arguements and discussions about Joshua Tree Versus SOTT. This even prompted one of P´s most famous quote´s after the grammy awards, where U2 had just taken the award for best album, P´s reply was to say, "OK, I can do that, but U2 cant do the Housequake" . In 95 P put U2 lead singer Bono to the test, at an aftershow in Dublin, they sang The Cross together, which of course was the song which P had made reference to back at the grammy awards. I have heard the version they did, Bono kept forgetting the lyrics

Anyway, in 87, after the dissappointment of SOTT london show´s being cancelled, I went to the U2 concert, I was expecting it to be similiar to basically listening to U2´s music on a loud stereo, but boy was I wrong, from the moment they came on stage, it was a total party, one of the best show´s I was ever at. I have since seen them two more times, 2001 & 2005, both in Vienna. Again, I have never witnessed any band that can get an audience into such a frenzy. I have seen alot of concerts in Vienna, including Springsteen and The Stones, and an Austrian audience is very difficult to get on their feet, but both times U2 had the place jumping from start to finish. The 2005 concert was extra special, as it was on the same day that Live 8 was done, and the show started late, as U2 had to fly in from London.

If I was to look at it from a neutral perspective, U2 are probably the best live act in the world, they sure know how to get people into a complete frenzy. BTW, U2 3D is probably at a cinema near you, from what I have heard, it is almost as good as the real thing

my apologies for Hi-jacking the thread

SCNDLS said:

You are absolutely right. After I wrote that, I was listening to the one of the sports radio station here in NYC (It's NOTHING but Giants here obviously) they were playing clips from the game with Tom Petty's song, "Running Down a Dream" I think it's called, and as I was listening, I realized Prince played when he was supposed to. What SCNDLS said was on point and thank you for spelling it out for me with those stats. Plus, no one here is talking about the halfime show because of the big win so it's all good. I'm still ecstatic over the win.

A Perfect win.....for the GIANTS!!!!!

I know this is probably abit off topic, but there is some great debate going on about live performances. To those of you that have not seen U2 live, next time they are in location near to you, make sure to get a ticket, they will blow you mind. I first saw U2 in 87, it was the last show of the Joshua Tree tour, and it was in my hometown, Cork. At the time I was totally anti-U2, basically coz everyone was into them, there would be major arguements and discussions about Joshua Tree Versus SOTT. This even prompted one of P´s most famous quote´s after the grammy awards, where U2 had just taken the award for best album, P´s reply was to say, "OK, I can do that, but U2 cant do the Housequake" . In 95 P put U2 lead singer Bono to the test, at an aftershow in Dublin, they sang The Cross together, which of course was the song which P had made reference to back at the grammy awards. I have heard the version they did, Bono kept forgetting the lyrics

Anyway, in 87, after the dissappointment of SOTT london show´s being cancelled, I went to the U2 concert, I was expecting it to be similiar to basically listening to U2´s music on a loud stereo, but boy was I wrong, from the moment they came on stage, it was a total party, one of the best show´s I was ever at. I have since seen them two more times, 2001 & 2005, both in Vienna. Again, I have never witnessed any band that can get an audience into such a frenzy. I have seen alot of concerts in Vienna, including Springsteen and The Stones, and an Austrian audience is very difficult to get on their feet, but both times U2 had the place jumping from start to finish. The 2005 concert was extra special, as it was on the same day that Live 8 was done, and the show started late, as U2 had to fly in from London.

If I was to look at it from a neutral perspective, U2 are probably the best live act in the world, they sure know how to get people into a complete frenzy. BTW, U2 3D is probably at a cinema near you, from what I have heard, it is almost as good as the real thing

my apologies for Hi-jacking the thread

SCNDLS said:

I could be wrong - I often am - but I thought it was shown in the second half of the Super Bowl.

purplecam said:

As for the game itself, last night's was 1000 times better than last year's. I'm so excited for the Giants but I kinda feel like a traitor cuz I live in Dallas and they beat us. But I can't help but smile every time I see Eli's goofy lil face. He was always classy even when the media, New York fans, and his own teammates questioned his heart. And in this day and age where most of these athletes are complete selfish pricks, that's saying alot.

SCNDLS said:

So true. The paper's here have ripped him a new one since he came here, epecially this year but the tide changed after the Giants met with the Patriots last month or December. Eli is a good guy and I'm very happy for him. If I wasn't temping, I'd go to tomorrow's parade.

Whitnail said:

No problem, I do it all the time. Unfortunately, I go off on a tangent sometimes but to me this is an organic discussion so it's kinda natural to digress a bit.

As for U2, I agree, that as a band they are probally the best touring act around that's still putting out relevant music and knows how to rock an audience. Unlike The Stones and Paul McCartney who are still trading on their success from the 60s and 70s and rely heavily on the baby boomers' nostalgia for their touring success.

However, Prince and U2 are two totally different animals in my opinion. I went to see U2 a few years back, great show, lots of fun, and I'll never forget it. And I would definitely go see them again because it's a great, high energy show. But it will never compare to any Prince show I've ever been to, even an average, by Prince's high standards, performance. Much less ANY Prince aftershow.

There's just something special about how prolific Prince is and the fact that he embodies so many talents and skills. He doesn't need the pyrotechnics he can just sit at a keyboard and rattle off a medley of some of his songs and hold the audience in his palm without blowing them through the back of the arena. The frenzy can be nice but to me it takes away from the music. Not to mention how funky Prince is. Bono is a lot of great things but I wouldn't call him funky. LOL! At least not the good kind.

purplecam said:

You should go and enjoy it cuz this will be the LAST time ya'll get past the Cowboys!!! Okay, I think I've redeemed myself as a true Dallas fan. LOL!

Whitnail said:

I accept ur apology because this is about more than Prince's performance to Tom Petty's... its about the acts b4 them and also has become about the game.
The Colts were awesome last year, but in the end, I think this game was a helluva lot sweeter... the Giants are a local team and they took THE titan of the NFL... let's just see what happens 2 the Patriots after this defeat.

But on the matter of U2, would u recommend any other albums aside from The Joshua Tree? I keep hearing how great U2 is, but I need to see proof u understand. I'm more than willing to give them a chance.

SCNDLS said:

I could be wrong - I often am - but I thought it was shown in the second half of the Super Bowl.

L4OATheOriginal said:

I LOVE U2 and yes the performance was moving but THAT was because of the September 11 tragedy so they had a lot of extra emotion and patriotism working for them. That was an extraordinary circumstance and by no means a normal Superbowl. However, IMO if we base it solely on sheer excitement, fun, and thrills, which is what the halftime show is supposed to be about, Prince is STILL and "always will be (pussy control)" err I mean number 1 and MJ is in the top 5.
[Edited 2/4/08 8:17am]

L4OATheOriginal said:

U2 were incredible at the superbowl, Where the streets have no names, is one of my fav songs of all time, especially live. I remember when I saw the superbowl version, I was totally confused as to how they managed to get a stage and all those people out on the field in such a short space of time, I actually thought it was some sort of broadcast from a concert. I personally would not be able to put one show over the other. P´s performance was definitely hampered by the weather conditions, which added a certain flare to the show. To be fair, not many would have delivered such a captiviting show in such conditions.

Has Springsteen ever did the halftime superbowl show?

SCNDLS said:

and in ur opinion, aren't u basing it solely just because u r a prince fan? if so then it would b a biased opinion not on a music level xperience.

as a prince fan, it was very very subpar with the best part being the sequence of proud mary-best of u[Edited 2/4/08 10:49am]

SCNDLS said:

You are absolutely right. After I wrote that, I was listening to the one of the sports radio station here in NYC (It's NOTHING but Giants here obviously) they were playing clips from the game with Tom Petty's song, "Running Down a Dream" I think it's called, and as I was listening, I realized Prince played when he was supposed to. What SCNDLS said was on point and thank you for spelling it out for me with those stats. Plus, no one here is talking about the halfime show because of the big win so it's all good. I'm still ecstatic over the win.

A Perfect win.....for the GIANTS!!!!!

Whitnail said:

No problem, I do it all the time. Unfortunately, I go off on a tangent sometimes but to me this is an organic discussion so it's kinda natural to digress a bit.

As for U2, I agree, that as a band they are probally the best touring act around that's still putting out relevant music and knows how to rock an audience. Unlike The Stones and Paul McCartney who are still trading on their success from the 60s and 70s and rely heavily on the baby boomers' nostalgia for their touring success.

L4OATheOriginal said:

I watched it again last night or early this morning and I agree with this, but as i said in an earlier post, i think the weather conditions affected the performance.

L4OATheOriginal said:

I watched it again last night or early this morning and I agree with this, but as i said in an earlier post, i think the weather conditions affected the performance.

SCNDLS said:

and in ur opinion, aren't u basing it solely just because u r a prince fan? if so then it would b a biased opinion not on a music level xperience.

as a prince fan, it was very very subpar with the best part being the sequence of proud mary-best of u
[Edited 2/4/08 10:49am]

Whitnail said:

I would also add, that P´s performances like "Baby I´m a Star" grammies 85, "Peach" 94 MTV awards, RNRHOF and the Alma awards are examples of far better performances, there are many others, but these ones stick in my head

SCNDLS said:

isn't that what prince is doing as well as evident by that setlist during the superbowl?

L4OATheOriginal said:

Sure my bias plays into it some, but I performed in a couple of Superbowls when I was in high school, I'm a huge sports fan so I always watch the game, and I'm always eager to see the halftime show. Therefore, I'm very familiar with the halftime shows for the last 15 years or so and the feeling of excitement and anticipation this show is SUPPOSED to generate. And IMO all paled in comparison to Prince's. I'm not saying there weren't some good ones, but Prince was more of a complete package instead of being one-dimensional in his perforfance like most other acts.

As I clearly stated in my post (in the part YOU highlighted) I based my opinion on the fun and thrill factor, not even musicianship cuz that's not really a big deal in the halftime show, but with Prince it was a bonus. All I'm saying is that comparing his performance to other halftime shows, NOT other Prince shows, it was the best all-around performance for a halftime show with the broadest appeal. You may think it was subpar, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

His show appealed across racial, generational, and musical genre lines unlike any other performer they've ever had. There was something for Prince fans young and old, rock fans young and old, fans of rock, pop, blues and r&b. Tom Petty didn't do that, and U2 as great a show it was under special circumstances didn't do that. And IDEALLY appealling to a broad audience of football fans IS the goal of the Superbowl halftime show.

L4OATheOriginal said:

Sure my bias plays into it some, but I performed in a couple of Superbowls when I was in high school, I'm a huge sports fan so I always watch the game, and I'm always eager to see the halftime show. Therefore, I'm very familiar with the halftime shows for the last 15 years or so and the feeling of excitement and anticipation this show is SUPPOSED to generate. And IMO all paled in comparison to Prince's. I'm not saying there weren't some good ones, but Prince was more of a complete package instead of being one-dimensional in his perforfance like most other acts.

As I clearly stated in my post (in the part YOU highlighted) I based my opinion on the fun and thrill factor, not even musicianship cuz that's not really a big deal in the halftime show, but with Prince it was a bonus. All I'm saying is that comparing his performance to other halftime shows, NOT other Prince shows, it was the best all-around performance for a halftime show with the broadest appeal. You may think it was subpar, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

His show appealed across racial, generational, and musical genre lines unlike any other performer they've ever had. There was something for Prince fans young and old, rock fans young and old, fans of rock, pop, blues and r&b. Tom Petty didn't do that, and U2 as great a show it was under special circumstances didn't do that. And IDEALLY appealling to a broad audience of football fans IS the goal of the Superbowl halftime show.

purplecam said:

i'm waiting 4 ur response 2 my bullentin on myspace my friend :tapping my foot:

L4OATheOriginal said:

That post had NOTHING to do with the Superbowl, which I think was pretty obvious. I was talking about touring acts in general. Prince has consistently put out new music and performed it live.

Besides, halftime acts are supposed to do easily recognizable sing along, audience participation-type songs. It woulda been plain stupid for Prince to get up there and do his favorite cuts from the Black album or Lovesexy. Fans may have loved that but it woulda alienated the audience at home and in the arena.

Doing the Superbowl is strictly a mass-marketing opportunity for any artist. Prince had a product to sell, 3121 Las Vegas, Planet Earth album, shows at the O2, and it made perfect sense for him to get his name and face back out there on the largest stage on Earth. The halftime producers have been asking Prince EVERY year to do the show and he always declined. There's no coincidence in the fact that he kicked off one of his most active years in long time with a Superbowl halftime show which is the most viewed event on the Planet.

L4OATheOriginal said:

Sure my bias plays into it some, but I performed in a couple of Superbowls when I was in high school, I'm a huge sports fan so I always watch the game, and I'm always eager to see the halftime show. Therefore, I'm very familiar with the halftime shows for the last 15 years or so and the feeling of excitement and anticipation this show is SUPPOSED to generate. And IMO all paled in comparison to Prince's. I'm not saying there weren't some good ones, but Prince was more of a complete package instead of being one-dimensional in his perforfance like most other acts.

As I clearly stated in my post (in the part YOU highlighted) I based my opinion on the fun and thrill factor, not even musicianship cuz that's not really a big deal in the halftime show, but with Prince it was a bonus. All I'm saying is that comparing his performance to other halftime shows, NOT other Prince shows, it was the best all-around performance for a halftime show with the broadest appeal. You may think it was subpar, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

His show appealed across racial, generational, and musical genre lines unlike any other performer they've ever had. There was something for Prince fans young and old, rock fans young and old, fans of rock, pop, blues and r&b. Tom Petty didn't do that, and U2 as great a show it was under special circumstances didn't do that. And IDEALLY appealling to a broad audience of football fans IS the goal of the Superbowl halftime show.

I know this is probably abit off topic, but there is some great debate going on about live performances. To those of you that have not seen U2 live, next time they are in location near to you, make sure to get a ticket, they will blow you mind. I first saw U2 in 87, it was the last show of the Joshua Tree tour, and it was in my hometown, Cork. At the time I was totally anti-U2, basically coz everyone was into them, there would be major arguements and discussions about Joshua Tree Versus SOTT. This even prompted one of P´s most famous quote´s after the grammy awards, where U2 had just taken the award for best album, P´s reply was to say, "OK, I can do that, but U2 cant do the Housequake" . In 95 P put U2 lead singer Bono to the test, at an aftershow in Dublin, they sang The Cross together, which of course was the song which P had made reference to back at the grammy awards. I have heard the version they did, Bono kept forgetting the lyrics

Anyway, in 87, after the dissappointment of SOTT london show´s being cancelled, I went to the U2 concert, I was expecting it to be similiar to basically listening to U2´s music on a loud stereo, but boy was I wrong, from the moment they came on stage, it was a total party, one of the best show´s I was ever at. I have since seen them two more times, 2001 & 2005, both in Vienna. Again, I have never witnessed any band that can get an audience into such a frenzy. I have seen alot of concerts in Vienna, including Springsteen and The Stones, and an Austrian audience is very difficult to get on their feet, but both times U2 had the place jumping from start to finish. The 2005 concert was extra special, as it was on the same day that Live 8 was done, and the show started late, as U2 had to fly in from London.

If I was to look at it from a neutral perspective, U2 are probably the best live act in the world, they sure know how to get people into a complete frenzy. BTW, U2 3D is probably at a cinema near you, from what I have heard, it is almost as good as the real thing

my apologies for Hi-jacking the thread

SCNDLS said:

isn't that what prince is doing as well as evident by that setlist during the superbowl?