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Are YOU talkin to ME? I don't see anybody else here excessex said: What? You think we have law and order in America NOW?
excessex said: I'm still 100% for this crusade. He's taking huge risk but is definitely ON THE MONEY. They once would have said that you could never have law and order in the Wild West. [Edited 9/14/07 5:55am] [Edited 9/14/07 5:57am] | |
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I've turned full circle on this argument. Prince is asking for all copyright material to be deleted, which by law is a fair request. What is being confused (as i did) is the demand for this material to be made available. Nobody can claim to know the reason for the lack of old video meterial, but at the end of the day this would be a privalige not a right.
At the end of the day all that is being removed is a few photos and some dodgy videos. This shouldnt really effect your overall perception of the man. Who knows once this material is removed, he might actually release official tour videos (if there are any). I need Prince tunes on the Rock Band game! PLEEEEEEASE, im prepared to beg. | |
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Does any1 know if NPGMC accounts will still b valid when it reopens?
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I just read this on another site.
Such bullshit. YouTube is such a great marketing tool. He should learn how to take advantage. | |
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excessex said: I authored the 23rd website...like EVER.
(Yes...there once was a directory of websites that was a short page of HTML) YouTube is nothing to do with sharing. They are sharing nothing because they HAVE nothing to share. YouTube is about creating stock market value from the offerings of others. Your post reflects your DESIRE and I back that desire. YouTube (I'm singling them out it would seem but only because they're top) is the capitalisation of that desire. They want to play it both ways. They act communistically in liberating copyrights yet coin it at the bank balance. This is so clever as to leave others going 'Duh. What can we do?' But Prince isn't an ostrich and he's one of six m3taverse said: Like Prince, you really seem to be lacking any type of clue of what the Internet is about and how it has changed our lives. Youtube has nothing whatsoever to do with money or consumption. It has to do with people living part of their lives on a global digital network, and what people like to do in real life, they like to do on this global network as well. This includes sharing things you care about, that amuse you or make you cry. Whereas my parents used to send postcards to people they care about, from locations they care about, now they just uploads their pics to Flickr, publish their vids on YouTube and pop everyone an email with the links. Back in the day, when I heard a piece of music that blew my mind, I wanted to share that experience and gave friends a tape. Now I drop an mp3 into MSN Messenger. It's only to those who fail to understand the greater mechanism at work that think they can somehow shape the way we behave and communicate. For an artist to take such a position is sad to say the least. Art is organic, it does not exist without a community that develops around it and that make it their own. All classic works of art trancend their creator, or they are simply not classic and perhaps not even art. Art is public property, people make it their own, or it is not art and irrelevant. I made the 17th website ever, fact. It was called ... ok nevermind what it was called, I'm not on a first name basis with 99% of people here and let's keep it that way. First of all, sites like Youtube and Flickr aren't very profitable at all, if at all. Their "worth" is established on the potential of their communities, not on their actual income. As someone who made the 20th website, my expectation is that you would know such things. You seem to be confusing the medium with the message, Youtube is completely interchangable within the context of the communication revolution that has taken place. Youtube is the medium, the message is about sharing experiences, on a global scale. You can sue the hell out of that site, but the cat will not get back in the bag. Besides, Flickr and Youtube offer their services completely free of charge to its global base of users. Your line of thought seems to be that because they are succesful, because people have created the largest communities we have ever seen in the history of the world, that somehow automatically makes them an evil corporation. Are you just jealous or do you simply dispise people making money. Your anti corporate rant is tired in any case, and i suspect disingenuous at the same time. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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Does this mean we'll have to rename with website "p*****.org?"
(meaning, of course, "prince" rather than "pissed.") Veni, Vidi, Funki. | |
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jontp said: I've turned full circle on this argument. Prince is asking for all copyright material to be deleted, which by law is a fair request. What is being confused (as i did) is the demand for this material to be made available. Nobody can claim to know the reason for the lack of old video meterial, but at the end of the day this would be a privalige not a right.
At the end of the day all that is being removed is a few photos and some dodgy videos. This shouldnt really effect your overall perception of the man. Who knows once this material is removed, he might actually release official tour videos (if there are any). I would not hold my breath on that!! This is about nothing more than Prince trying to get further into his JW beliefs! Which I didn't have a problem with as long as those beliefs did not infringe upon my rights to enjoy the Prince that I've always been able to enjoy! Now this shit is getting out of hand! If Prince doesn't want to be who the hell he is and will always be!! Then he should DO US ALL A FAVOR AND RETIRE ALREADY but you will NEVER be able to escape your past, pal!!! | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: jontp said: I've turned full circle on this argument. Prince is asking for all copyright material to be deleted, which by law is a fair request. What is being confused (as i did) is the demand for this material to be made available. Nobody can claim to know the reason for the lack of old video meterial, but at the end of the day this would be a privalige not a right.
At the end of the day all that is being removed is a few photos and some dodgy videos. This shouldnt really effect your overall perception of the man. Who knows once this material is removed, he might actually release official tour videos (if there are any). I would not hold my breath on that!! This is about nothing more than Prince trying to get further into his JW beliefs! Which I didn't have a problem with as long as those beliefs did not infringe upon my rights to enjoy the Prince that I've always been able to enjoy! Now this shit is getting out of hand! If Prince doesn't want to be who the hell he is and will always be!! Then he should DO US ALL A FAVOR AND RETIRE ALREADY but you will NEVER be able to escape your past, pal!!! I guess I don't care so much about seeing old Prince videos; fine if I do, fine if I don't. Keeping up with recent live performances is what interests me most, personally. But I think you might be on to something... he might be trying to get rid of all his old explicit videos that are still lying about. I mean, what's out in the public eye, at least. | |
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LordMarcusMont said: Does this mean we'll have to rename with website "p*****.org?"
(meaning, of course, "prince" rather than "pissed.") Been there, done that. This site is allowed to have "prince" in its name because it's a word that's in our dictionaries. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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A few years from now, we'll be huddled in little darkened caves, playing ukeleles or harmonicas...
"Gather round, fans, here's a little ditty The One Who May Not Be Named recorded in 1982 A.D., called 'Let's Pretend We're Married': "'Scuse me, but I need a-" One of the 'fans' jumps up, tearing off his cloak and revealing a huge machine gun. "Terminator! There's a Terminator in the cave! Run! RUUUUNNNN!!!!!" |
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Prince, why don't you take all your music, videos, pictures off the internet and out of the stores alltogether. Why don't you start suing all the fan-sites like prince.org for posting your pictures, and why don't you stop doing concerts alltogether? That way it will be exclusively your music and nobody else would have access to it and nobody would use your music or material in a way that you wouldn't approve of. That way you would have total control over your music.
A few questions remain: Why didn't you stay in your friend's basement with your music? Why did you sign a contract with the evil Warner Brothers to begin with. Nobody knew you or your music back then. Nobody paid to listen to your music before Warner Brothers. You could have remained one broke, unknown, nobody and your musical talent would have gone unnoticed. love the one who is Love! | |
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Imago said: ufoclub said: it would be funny for Prince to sue adobe photoshop...
 Being the jackass that he is about this stuff, it's plausible. Annnnnd his perfume stinks like shit.  | |
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His videos always disappear from YouTube anyway.
He doesn't want what on eBay exactly? | |
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GiGi319 said: Prince, why don't you take all your music, videos, pictures off the internet and out of the stores alltogether. Why don't you start suing all the fan-sites like prince.org for posting your pictures, and why don't you stop doing concerts alltogether? That way it will be exclusively your music and nobody else would have access to it and nobody would use your music or material in a way that you wouldn't approve of. That way you would have total control over your music.
A few questions remain: Why didn't you stay in your friend's basement with your music? Why did you sign a contract with the evil Warner Brothers to begin with. Nobody knew you or your music back then. Nobody paid to listen to your music before Warner Brothers. You could have remained one broke, unknown, nobody and your musical talent would have gone unnoticed. Listen 2 the NPGMC Ahdio Show#2 if u have it. | |
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excessex said: The haters' logic is so monomaniacal ('Boo Hoo! I can't do what I want and Prince hasn't released what I want therefore my human rights have been infringed. Waaaaah. I want me mam!') that the intelligent view of what Prince is ACTUALLY up to is all but obscured on the fan sites.
Here's a coupla points and patterns that others (more interested in Prince in all his machinations) will undoubtedly recognise. . Of course all you hater-geniuses out there will hear none of it. Prince is just the big bad man who thinks your photography sucks, isn't he? Well this just in: IT SUCKS [Edited 9/14/07 2:05am] [Edited 9/14/07 2:06am] yawn. stretch. (i guess we're back at it) If you want to look at it as Prince vs. Rupert Murdoch, fine. I don't see it that way. Because then this is going to turn into a debate on the internet and that's certainly part of this discussion, but will get us WAY off track. Guys like Tom invent something cool and it takes off like a rocket and becomes part of our everyday lives and THEN someone like Rupert Murdoch comes along and buys it and figures out a way to make some money off of it (AGAIN, mostly from advertising and setting up promotions with record labels, movie companies, etc). Most of which has NOTHING to do with FANS wanting to post music/videos on THEIR PERSONAL PAGES and NOT FOR PROFIT. I'll keep screaming this until i'm blue in the face, PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE AND MYSPACE AREN'T BOOTLEGGERS LOOKING TO MAKE A BUCK, THEY'RE FANS!!!!! THE PEOPLE WHO MADE YOU RICH IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!! 1. Prince likes to make a lotta stuff
No kidding. 2. In the WB bag, he made a lotta stuff which has remained unreleased because, as when WB had him, they still don't consider it worth releasing. This covers the past
Uh huh. Waiting for you to get to the good part(part we don't know). 3. Since WB, Prince has released a lotta stuff when he's in the mood
Yeah. A few bad albums and some vault stuff that he sold on NPGMC. Sure. And..... 4. Prince wants his masters back from WB
Again, I feel the need to say "duh". But he doesn't get a lot of sympathy from me on that one. He could've have had his masters back if he wasn't a dick about it and tried to go to war. Ultimately, he screwed himself on that one. Again that's another topic. Still waiting on where you get to the topic at hand. 5. Prince's market-value dropped right off the scale in the period since WB. This was entirely at Prince's discretion.
WHAT? His discretion? He CHOSE to drop his market value? So that's why he's been trying to manipulate Soundscan for the last few years to make it seem like he's selling more albums than he actually is. Gotcha. 6. A deal may have been done based upon the lower market-value. Go figure
Huh? A deal for what? You lost me. What are you talking about here? 7. We are waiting. And I, for one, am LICKING MY MF LIPS
Waiting for what? I guess you're waiting for the day when Prince opens up the vault and decides to sell everything. Sure we're all waiting for that day, and you know what? It ain't going to happen. New Jehovah's Witness Prince isn't going to open up the vault and let you have access to old bad ass heathen sexual Prince. Again, to re-state my original point. When and if Prince provides access to everything, then if he wants to sue go ahead. It's fine. Until then, he should leave it alone. All he's doing is alienating people that have put huge sums of money in his pockets over the years. the FANS. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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m3taverse said: excessex said: We're being railroaded (further) into conceiving of ourselves as nothing other than consumers.
Like Prince, you really seem to be lacking any type of clue of what the Internet is about and how it has changed our lives. Youtube has nothing whatsoever to do with money or consumption. It has to do with people living part of their lives on a global digital network, and what people like to do in real life, they like to do on this global network as well. This includes sharing things you care about, that amuse you or make you cry. Whereas my parents used to send postcards to people they care about, from locations they care about, now they just uploads their pics to Flickr, publish their vids on YouTube and pop everyone an email with the links. Back in the day, when I heard a piece of music that blew my mind, I wanted to share that experience and gave friends a tape. Now I drop an mp3 into MSN Messenger. It's only to those who fail to understand the greater mechanism at work that think they can somehow shape the way we behave and communicate. For an artist to take such a position is sad to say the least. Art is organic, it does not exist without a community that develops around it and that make it their own. All classic works of art trancend their creator, or they are simply not classic and perhaps not even art. Art is public property, people make it their own, or it is not art and irrelevant. Amen! http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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emesem said: Prince's model of the music biz....
Prince 99.998% of all revenues Bandmembers/managers/lawyers/accountants/cooks/wives/girlfriends/labels/webisites/retailers/concert venues/People/Rolling Stone/MTV/VH1 get .002%
FREAKING hilarious. WELL put. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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GiGi319 said: Prince, why don't you take all your music, videos, pictures off the internet and out of the stores alltogether. Why don't you start suing all the fan-sites like prince.org for posting your pictures, and why don't you stop doing concerts alltogether? That way it will be exclusively your music and nobody else would have access to it and nobody would use your music or material in a way that you wouldn't approve of. That way you would have total control over your music.
A few questions remain: Why didn't you stay in your friend's basement with your music? Why did you sign a contract with the evil Warner Brothers to begin with. Nobody knew you or your music back then. Nobody paid to listen to your music before Warner Brothers. You could have remained one broke, unknown, nobody and your musical talent would have gone unnoticed. Again, i say Amen! http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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gemini13 said: Imago said: Being the jackass that he is about this stuff, it's plausible. Annnnnd his perfume stinks like shit. I'm seriously starting to love some of you. freaking hilarious! http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: excessex said: The haters' logic is so monomaniacal ('Boo Hoo! I can't do what I want and Prince hasn't released what I want therefore my human rights have been infringed. Waaaaah. I want me mam!') that the intelligent view of what Prince is ACTUALLY up to is all but obscured on the fan sites.
Here's a coupla points and patterns that others (more interested in Prince in all his machinations) will undoubtedly recognise. . Of course all you hater-geniuses out there will hear none of it. Prince is just the big bad man who thinks your photography sucks, isn't he? Well this just in: IT SUCKS [Edited 9/14/07 2:05am] [Edited 9/14/07 2:06am] yawn. stretch. (i guess we're back at it) If you want to look at it as Prince vs. Rupert Murdoch, fine. I don't see it that way. Because then this is going to turn into a debate on the internet and that's certainly part of this discussion, but will get us WAY off track. Guys like Tom invent something cool and it takes off like a rocket and becomes part of our everyday lives and THEN someone like Rupert Murdoch comes along and buys it and figures out a way to make some money off of it (AGAIN, mostly from advertising and setting up promotions with record labels, movie companies, etc). Most of which has NOTHING to do with FANS wanting to post music/videos on THEIR PERSONAL PAGES and NOT FOR PROFIT. I'll keep screaming this until i'm blue in the face, PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE AND MYSPACE AREN'T BOOTLEGGERS LOOKING TO MAKE A BUCK, THEY'RE FANS!!!!! THE PEOPLE WHO MADE YOU RICH IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!! Huh? A deal for what? You lost me. What are you talking about here? 7. We are waiting. And I, for one, am LICKING MY MF LIPS
Waiting for what? I guess you're waiting for the day when Prince opens up the vault and decides to sell everything. Sure we're all waiting for that day, and you know what? It ain't going to happen. New Jehovah's Witness Prince isn't going to open up the vault and let you have access to old bad ass heathen sexual Prince. Again, to re-state my original point. When and if Prince provides access to everything, then if he wants to sue go ahead. It's fine. Until then, he should leave it alone. All he's doing is alienating people that have put huge sums of money in his pockets over the years. the FANS. 
I'm seriously feeling the need to boycott all things Prince...with of course the exception of Emancipation Radio tonight at 10pm, my time. That'll be about Mojo and not Prince and he can try in infringe upon that if he wants to! There'll be a bonfire of Prince related shit burning big enough to be seen from space!! | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: ButterscotchPimp said: Waiting for what? I guess you're waiting for the day when Prince opens up the vault and decides to sell everything. Sure we're all waiting for that day, and you know what? It ain't going to happen. New Jehovah's Witness Prince isn't going to open up the vault and let you have access to old bad ass heathen sexual Prince. Again, to re-state my original point. When and if Prince provides access to everything, then if he wants to sue go ahead. It's fine. Until then, he should leave it alone. All he's doing is alienating people that have put huge sums of money in his pockets over the years. the FANS.
I'm seriously feeling the need to boycott all things Prince...with of course the exception of Emancipation Radio tonight at 10pm, my time. That'll be about Mojo and not Prince and he can try in infringe upon that if he wants to! There'll be a bonfire of Prince related shit burning big enough to be seen from space!! Oh i for one wouldn't be surprised if he started going after internet radio and podcasts. He would definately do some crap like that. And Electrifying Mojo rules the universe. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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Ughhh he wants to control EVERYTHING!!! | |
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just like the cover to Planet Earth he wants It ALL!!!! | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: SexyBeautifulOne said:
I'm seriously feeling the need to boycott all things Prince...with of course the exception of Emancipation Radio tonight at 10pm, my time. That'll be about Mojo and not Prince and he can try in infringe upon that if he wants to! There'll be a bonfire of Prince related shit burning big enough to be seen from space!! Oh i for one wouldn't be surprised if he started going after internet radio and podcasts. He would definately do some crap like that. And Electrifying Mojo rules the universe.  See you tonight!
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christos7 said: GiGi319 said: Prince, why don't you take all your music, videos, pictures off the internet and out of the stores alltogether. Why don't you start suing all the fan-sites like prince.org for posting your pictures, and why don't you stop doing concerts alltogether? That way it will be exclusively your music and nobody else would have access to it and nobody would use your music or material in a way that you wouldn't approve of. That way you would have total control over your music.
A few questions remain: Why didn't you stay in your friend's basement with your music? Why did you sign a contract with the evil Warner Brothers to begin with. Nobody knew you or your music back then. Nobody paid to listen to your music before Warner Brothers. You could have remained one broke, unknown, nobody and your musical talent would have gone unnoticed. Listen 2 the NPGMC Ahdio Show#2 if u have it. I don't have that show and what has that to do with anything? Please explain! love the one who is Love! | |
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