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Reply #390 posted 06/16/07 10:16am

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Can we all tip our heads and pray that this CD isn't another dud?
pray
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Reply #391 posted 06/16/07 10:20am

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my lord..i am so sick of the whole "i hate that fans give w&l so much credit" argument...for the love of humanity, if you feel they contributed...super...if you feel they didn't...even better.

MOVE ON!!!!
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Reply #392 posted 06/16/07 11:06am

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sosgemini said:

my lord..i am so sick of the whole "i hate that fans give w&l so much credit" argument...for the love of humanity, if you feel they contributed...super...if you feel they didn't...even better.

MOVE ON!!!!


What do u think? I'm just curious to know u can orgnote me if u don't want to say it here.
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Reply #393 posted 06/16/07 11:07am

sexxydancer

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He is one of those who convinced Prince to get rid of W & L.


I've never heard that but if true.....I really DIG Miko now.

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Reply #394 posted 06/16/07 1:43pm

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Mozorro said:

Can we all tip our heads and pray that this CD isn't another dud?
pray


TRC, Musicology, and 3121 are quality albums. I like more songs on those albums than I do on "Parade," which only has 3 good songs on it. I love most of the songs on them.I'm so glad I don't have the bad taste of some Prince "fans." smile
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Reply #395 posted 06/16/07 1:58pm

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Graycap23 said:

ian said:

It's gotta suck for Wendy and Lisa, to be still referred to as "Prince proteges" after all these years.

PS Yay!

PPS Bah, that means we're all gonna have many many copies of the album by the time the London shows are over...

When they work with Prince, what would u call them?

musicians? biggrin
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Reply #396 posted 06/16/07 2:02pm

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lspear76 said:

Mozorro said:

Can we all tip our heads and pray that this CD isn't another dud?
pray


TRC, Musicology, and 3121 are quality albums. I like more songs on those albums than I do on "Parade," which only has 3 good songs on it. I love most of the songs on them.I'm so glad I don't have the bad taste of some Prince "fans." smile


why do you feel "glad"? its as if your saying your so insecure in your own musical taste that you have to belittle others.

just be.
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Reply #397 posted 06/16/07 2:08pm

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lspear76 said:

Mozorro said:

Can we all tip our heads and pray that this CD isn't another dud?
pray


TRC, Musicology, and 3121 are quality albums. I like more songs on those albums than I do on "Parade," which only has 3 good songs on it. I love most of the songs on them.I'm so glad I don't have the bad taste of some Prince "fans." smile


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Reply #398 posted 06/16/07 2:41pm

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superspaceboy said:

EmancipationLover said:



Just out of interest - do you know the people responsible for Prince's covers personally?


I think I know who has done them for the past few albums. Correct on the crappy photoshop skills and designing. But incorrect on the lame-ass fan. That "lame ass fan" is acually a HUGE supporter of the Prince Community who deserves props regardless of his design skills.





" a huge supporter of Prince Community"


I think I know who you are talking about.
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Reply #399 posted 06/16/07 3:05pm

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Raze said:

sarkozyiszeman said:



Yes I'm. I'm sorry you're not aware Miko assisted Prince on every project at some stage. He even made him manager of his label.
Then the two men ended their collaboration and were not in good terms at all when it happened.
I spent one hour talking about Prince with Sonny T in 1995 and he told me Prince only trusted Miko at some stage for musical ideas and in the production process. He is one of those who convinced Prince to get rid of W & L.



Um, W&L left (twice) and the first time, Prince tracked them down at the airport and begged them to stay.


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Reply #400 posted 06/16/07 4:13pm

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YES, YES, YES! WOO-HOO! PRINCEY!
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Reply #401 posted 06/16/07 6:52pm

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hiccup.
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Reply #402 posted 06/16/07 9:41pm

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blacksweat said:

The soundtrack to Heroes is pure Wendy and Lisa....


I totally flipped out when I saw their names in the credits!!! It took me a few episodes to notice it.....
Gotta love the Purple One......
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Reply #403 posted 06/16/07 9:44pm

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Reply #404 posted 06/16/07 9:45pm

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adorable2 said:

sosgemini said:

my lord..i am so sick of the whole "i hate that fans give w&l so much credit" argument...for the love of humanity, if you feel they contributed...super...if you feel they didn't...even better.

MOVE ON!!!!


What do u think? I'm just curious to know u can orgnote me if u don't want to say it here.


what do i think? i think they motivated prince to think outside the box and not to repeat himself...and to my ears, thats a plus. but i don't begrudge others for feeling otherwise...or for not sharing the same view that i do.

life's to freakin short.
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Reply #405 posted 06/17/07 5:57am

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I still remember that onstage video spot running over and over again before the European Diamonds & Pearls tour gigs startet. It was a commercial for the forthcoming symbol album. And it ended with this:"Wendy and Lisa: Please phone home." I think, Prince knows about the benefits of the collaboration with Wendy and Lisa. He always did. And the girl bros know as well. There are many non-productive collaborations in Prince's carreer (like Ingrid Chavez for example). W&L are among those who contributed to the Prince sound - just like Clare Fisher did.I don't think "Mountains" could have been done like this without the girls. I'm looking forward to their new collaboration.
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Reply #406 posted 06/17/07 7:35am

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purplecam said:

As cool as it is to see that Prince is working with Wendy and Lisa I won't be shocked one bit if the worst songs on the CD are the ones that Wendy and Lisa had a part in. Who's going to get slammed like a motherfucker if the song is a dud and not the bomb?



Prince of course, even if they wrote and produced the entire track(s). lol

I just think it's funny that someone, I can't recall who, posted that they (W&L) introduced Prince to funk. neutral falloff
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Reply #407 posted 06/17/07 7:36am

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Raze said:

sarkozyiszeman said:



Yes I'm. I'm sorry you're not aware Miko assisted Prince on every project at some stage. He even made him manager of his label.
Then the two men ended their collaboration and were not in good terms at all when it happened.
I spent one hour talking about Prince with Sonny T in 1995 and he told me Prince only trusted Miko at some stage for musical ideas and in the production process. He is one of those who convinced Prince to get rid of W & L.



Um, W&L left (twice) and the first time, Prince tracked them down at the airport and begged them to stay.


LOL!. To stay and do the Parade tour.
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Reply #408 posted 06/17/07 7:56am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

purplecam said:

As cool as it is to see that Prince is working with Wendy and Lisa I won't be shocked one bit if the worst songs on the CD are the ones that Wendy and Lisa had a part in. Who's going to get slammed like a motherfucker if the song is a dud and not the bomb?



Prince of course, even if they wrote and produced the entire track(s). lol

I just think it's funny that someone, I can't recall who, posted that they (W&L) introduced Prince to funk. neutral falloff


falloff
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Reply #409 posted 06/17/07 8:02am

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sosgemini said:

adorable2 said:



What do u think? I'm just curious to know u can orgnote me if u don't want to say it here.


what do i think? i think they motivated prince to think outside the box and not to repeat himself...and to my ears, thats a plus. but i don't begrudge others for feeling otherwise...or for not sharing the same view that i do.

life's to freakin short.


ok i see.
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Reply #410 posted 06/17/07 8:26am

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adorable2 said:

sosgemini said:



what do i think? i think they motivated prince to think outside the box and not to repeat himself...and to my ears, thats a plus. but i don't begrudge others for feeling otherwise...or for not sharing the same view that i do.

life's to freakin short.


ok i see.


coolio.

i find it fascinating that there are certain individuals here who take glee in ridiculing other's opinions or speculations...it's silly and immature.

the fact is we will probably never learn the truth of their relationship (both professionals and personal) so what should be a fun game of speculation always turns into adults acting like children in a playground. i guess it should be expected (and the hints of sexism, racism and homophobia don't help matters) but good grief folks, give it a rest.

(just a general rant here...not directed at anyone's specific comment.)
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Reply #411 posted 06/17/07 11:59am

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sosgemini said:

adorable2 said:



ok i see.


coolio.

i find it fascinating that there are certain individuals here who take glee in ridiculing other's opinions or speculations...it's silly and immature.

the fact is we will probably never learn the truth of their relationship (both professionals and personal) so what should be a fun game of speculation always turns into adults acting like children in a playground. i guess it should be expected (and the hints of sexism, racism and homophobia don't help matters) but good grief folks, give it a rest.

(just a general rant here...not directed at anyone's specific comment.)


i totally agree with u. what's funny is i also agree with ur assessment of W&L's contribution to P's music. I just wasn't sure where u stood. But i think it is a good thing to be respectful of eachother's opinion.
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Reply #412 posted 06/17/07 12:37pm

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sosgemini said:

i find it fascinating that there are certain individuals here who take glee in ridiculing other's opinions or speculations...it's silly and immature.

the fact is we will probably never learn the truth of their relationship (both professionals and personal) so what should be a fun game of speculation always turns into adults acting like children in a playground. i guess it should be expected (and the hints of sexism, racism and homophobia don't help matters) but good grief folks, give it a rest.

(just a general rant here...not directed at anyone's specific comment.)



I agree ridiculing other's opinions or speculations is kinda silly now disagreeing in a profesional creative manner is ok though
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Reply #413 posted 06/18/07 12:50am

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eek Uses people???? wow. I think not...wendy lisa, wheres their empire??? built on what they have accomplished. Sorry...but, i don't think so. far as they got lately is myspace. he is the one who gave them a career, and the chance to later ''talk behind his back'' the greatess musicians in the world, must want to work with him. he doesn't need them, he wants to share, and give them something. yeah, i think he has more heart than people say. in the entertainment world it's a cruel lonely place. probably, they had songs on the album already, so it was convienent.
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Reply #414 posted 06/18/07 2:09am

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CAMERANEWS said:

eek Uses people???? wow. I think not...



there are many incidents where he's used other people's ideas (or almost complete songs) for his own without crediting them, or giving them minimal credit. Wendy & Lisa. Morris Day. Andre Cymone. Levi Seacer. David Z.


Personally, I don't really care. I'm there to listen to Prince. If what he took enhances his music, I'm fine with it. The other stuff is between them, and not really something that I'm bothered about one way or the other. A cynical view, probably, but oh well.
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Reply #415 posted 06/18/07 2:54am

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Every time a new album comes up, this discussion about his new/old work also comes up smile

What you think of an album depends on where you stand in taste then and now. I was pretty young during his early albums, and things I dig then, might sound to used up today, and vise versa.

Parade was a good album, but not "the bang" ANHIYH and Mountains loud on your stereo, perhaps the extended versions, kicks butt compared to Kiss and G&B smile.

N.e.w.s, and TRC is 2 of his best albums ever in terms of music. In terms of hits, and popularity, they are ofcause not. All this also depends on how free you are in your mind to resive and prosess new impulses and ideas. Art shall and needs to test limits to evolve,

Wanna hear music uncut, without any sensurship and produsers who polish the sound, then take a lissen to Captain Beefheart, he is insane :p

I think we are in for a treat with Prince`s new album, just dont think you know what to expect before you GET it. (get it?)
>Peace and B WilD!!!
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Reply #416 posted 06/18/07 3:05am

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Umm. I think NEWS would have to be one of PrinceĀ“s worst albums, Ive tried so many times to listen to it after recommendations on this site, but it just gets more and more tedious... I do agree the TRC is underrated though, although I dont care about the message.

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Reply #417 posted 06/18/07 9:53am

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i just came in my pants redface


PMSL!!

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Reply #418 posted 06/18/07 10:06am

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sarkozyiszeman said:

EverlastingNow said:



wacky you ain't right... lol


Yes I'm. I'm sorry you're not aware Miko assisted Prince on every project at some stage. He even made him manager of his label.
Then the two men ended their collaboration and were not in good terms at all when it happened.
I spent one hour talking about Prince with Sonny T in 1995 and he told me Prince only trusted Miko at some stage for musical ideas and in the production process. He is one of those who convinced Prince to get rid of W & L.


Is it possible that you mix up Miko with Levi Seacer Jr.?
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Reply #419 posted 06/18/07 11:38am

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EmancipationLover said:

sarkozyiszeman said:



Yes I'm. I'm sorry you're not aware Miko assisted Prince on every project at some stage. He even made him manager of his label.
Then the two men ended their collaboration and were not in good terms at all when it happened.
I spent one hour talking about Prince with Sonny T in 1995 and he told me Prince only trusted Miko at some stage for musical ideas and in the production process. He is one of those who convinced Prince to get rid of W & L.


Is it possible that you mix up Miko with Levi Seacer Jr.?


That must be it. Either that, or he's talking out of his ass.
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