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Reply #60 posted 01/23/07 11:54am

Illustrator

UCantHavaDaMango said:

Oh well. He's still got .... the Super Bowl! woot!

Wouldn't it be cool if he won?
Can you imagine P with a Super-Bowl ring.?

That would be pretty awesome.
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Reply #61 posted 01/23/07 12:08pm

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To me, it isn’t about what’s Oscar worthy, since that’s so subjective. It does, however, make his absence from a Golden Globes acceptance speech a bigger deal, at least in terms of exposure (if that’s what he wanted). Still, in its own way, by winning a GG, the song represents yet another success for Prince.
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Reply #62 posted 01/23/07 12:15pm

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It doesn't surprise me that Prince wasn't nominated considering the song's placement in the context of the movie. It disappointments me as far as a performance opportunity, but it's not surprising.

What shocks me is the Dream Girls wasn't nominated for Best Picture.

Now that's shocking and disappointing. sad

some dude just out of the blue hit me up on aol and told me i wasnt a real man because i went to go see dreamgirls
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Reply #63 posted 01/23/07 12:32pm

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alandail said:

How do you win the golden globe and not even get nominated for the equivalent oscar? How many other golden globe winners had that happen?



Well Marilyn Monroe, Pia Zadora, and Madonna were already cited as examples in this very thread so that's 3 at least...

And the GGs are not equivalent to the Academy Awards. Golden Globes are voted on by the Hollywood Foreign Press where the Oscars are decided by SAG, I believe. If you read a few posts abour yours, you can see where this is being discussed...
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Reply #64 posted 01/23/07 12:37pm

theodore

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Quick question:
Beyoncé says:
I was so inspired by my character. I wrote songs of the things I wish she would've said... blah, blah, blah. And this appears right b4 Listen.
Then, why isn't she in the writing credits 4 the song?
She did this once with Irreplaceable.
I'm not hating. I'm just wondering.
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Reply #65 posted 01/23/07 12:50pm

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suomynona said:

laurarichardson said:


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Who the hell has not heard the song or at least knows about the film.

Maybe you do not realize that it is a children's film.

"An Inconvenient Truth" and "Dreamgirls" are children's films? Really?

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No "Happy Feet" is a animated movie and "Song of the Heart" is a children song. I think you were the one who stated that the tune was not deserving of a nomination.
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Reply #66 posted 01/23/07 12:53pm

2elijah

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Duggs said:


I agree "jimmy got soul!"- James "thunder" Early
i co-sign. eddie was great in DG and deserved both the golden globe as well as this oscar nomination. perhaps this will be the catalyst for mr. murphy to do higher quality work (ala, bill murray after his oscar nomination)



mul2std:
i co-sign. eddie was great in DG and deserved both the golden globe as well as this oscar nomination. perhaps this will be the catalyst for mr. murphy to do higher quality work (ala, bill murray after his oscar nomination)



You read my mind...I was just discussing this with someone the other day and I am so annoyed that he plays roles like that. Just like "Martin" it's almost like the 2 of them take any role out of desperation. It's not like they can't find overweight females to play the role, to the point that they now have Black men dressing up as overweight women just to make a comic scene out of it;besides it's insulting to overweight people. Not to mention he plays overweight men as well. It's just totally ridiculous that it has come to that. He deserves better roles than that. I'd like to see him in some dramatic roles for a change.
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Reply #67 posted 01/23/07 1:00pm

2elijah

I would have been happy if Prince did win the Oscar for the song, but he didn't and all is good. Doesn't change a thing though...Brother Prince is still the baddest musician out there!
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Reply #68 posted 01/23/07 1:04pm

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2elijah said:[quote]

mul2std said:




mul2std:
i co-sign. eddie was great in DG and deserved both the golden globe as well as this oscar nomination. perhaps this will be the catalyst for mr. murphy to do higher quality work (ala, bill murray after his oscar nomination)



You read my mind...I was just discussing this with someone the other day and I am so annoyed that he plays roles like that. Just like "Martin" it's almost like the 2 of them take any role out of desperation. It's not like they can't find overweight females to play the role, to the point that they now have Black men dressing up as overweight women just to make a comic scene out of it;besides it's insulting to overweight people. Not to mention he plays overweight men as well. It's just totally ridiculous that it has come to that. He deserves better roles than that. I'd like to see him in some dramatic roles for a change.
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we own the saturday night live - best of eddie murphy edition. when you watch that you know how brilliant this man used to be and can still be. just because he has matured past "delirious" or "raw" doesn't mean he has to stoop to making the fat-suit movies and/or dribble like dr. dolittle (or the biggest flop in movie history, pluto nash). i gave the example of bill murray. first of all, i don't think he ever made movies as pathetic as the ones mentioned above but he did make some goofy-ass, silly, slapstick movies (and yes, they were pretty funny). once he made lost in translation and got the oscar nod, he started making higher quality, funny movies. i just hope that eddie can kinda sorta take that road. he is so talented-- he should be showcasing it.
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Reply #69 posted 01/23/07 1:16pm

2elijah

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2elijah said:




You read my mind...I was just discussing this with someone the other day and I am so annoyed that he plays roles like that. Just like "Martin" it's almost like the 2 of them take any role out of desperation. It's not like they can't find overweight females to play the role, to the point that they now have Black men dressing up as overweight women just to make a comic scene out of it;besides it's insulting to overweight people. Not to mention he plays overweight men as well. It's just totally ridiculous that it has come to that. He deserves better roles than that. I'd like to see him in some dramatic roles for a change.
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we own the saturday night live - best of eddie murphy edition. when you watch that you know how brilliant this man used to be and can still be. just because he has matured past "delirious" or "raw" doesn't mean he has to stoop to making the fat-suit movies and/or dribble like dr. dolittle (or the biggest flop in movie history, pluto nash). i gave the example of bill murray. first of all, i don't think he ever made movies as pathetic as the ones mentioned above but he did make some goofy-ass, silly, slapstick movies (and yes, they were pretty funny). once he made lost in translation and got the oscar nod, he started making higher quality, funny movies. i just hope that eddie can kinda sorta take that road. he is so talented-- he should be showcasing it.


i just hope that eddie can kinda sorta take that road. he is so talented-- he should be showcasing it


Very true.
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Reply #70 posted 01/23/07 2:03pm

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I don't particularly like the song... and it doesn't really feature in the body of the movie which I think songs should to be eligible... but I did think it would get a nomination at the very least. It's pretty ridiculous that the song which WON the Globes isn't even nominated at the Oscars.


my sentiments exactly.
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Reply #71 posted 01/23/07 2:05pm

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Did Happy Feet (the movie) get nomimated for an Oscar? If not, then the song shouldn't either . . .

I still think Song Of The Heart won the Golden Globe in part because of the charity aspect.
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Reply #72 posted 01/23/07 2:07pm

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One thing, Prince clearly wanted an Oscar nomination, there was an ad 'for your consideration' placed in some industry mag and on his 3121 website, so clearly his people felt it was eligible. So they must be disappointed.

Secondly, the only reason the song wasn't in the body of the movie was because the movie was practically complete when he handed over the song. The producers showed him the movie when they were trying to convince him to let them alter words in Kiss.
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Reply #73 posted 01/23/07 2:08pm

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2elijah said:[quote]

mul2std said:



i just hope that eddie can kinda sorta take that road. he is so talented-- he should be showcasing it


Very true.


Clint Eastwood had a phase in the late 70's/80's where he made horrible movies. He shifted into directing and now consistently makes some of the best movies out there.
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Reply #74 posted 01/23/07 2:13pm

suomynona

metalorange said:

The producers showed him the movie when they were trying to convince him to let them alter words in Kiss.
apparently they hadn't seen "an evening with kevin smith." evillol
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Reply #75 posted 01/23/07 2:16pm

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audience1 said:

To me, it isn’t about what’s Oscar worthy, since that’s so subjective. It does, however, make his absence from a Golden Globes acceptance speech a bigger deal, at least in terms of exposure (if that’s what he wanted). Still, in its own way, by winning a GG, the song represents yet another success for Prince.


PRINCE WILL WIN AN BEST ACTOR OSCAR IN 2009 FOR THE LEAD ROLL IN THE MOVIE LIVING IN AMERICA! THE JAMES BROWN STORY!

I can feel it in my bones!
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Reply #76 posted 01/23/07 2:20pm

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jone70 said:

alandail said:

How do you win the golden globe and not even get nominated for the equivalent oscar? How many other golden globe winners had that happen?



Well Marilyn Monroe, Pia Zadora, and Madonna were already cited as examples in this very thread so that's 3 at least...

And the GGs are not equivalent to the Academy Awards. Golden Globes are voted on by the Hollywood Foreign Press where the Oscars are decided by SAG, I believe. If you read a few posts abour yours, you can see where this is being discussed...


It's not surprising that it's happened at some point in the history of the two awards. My question was if any other GG award winner this year was snubbed of an Oscar nomination in the relevant equivalent category in the specific cases where there is an equivalent category.

I can see getting the nomination and not winning the award, but it makes no sense to not even have gotten the nomination.
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Reply #77 posted 01/23/07 2:27pm

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As some have mentioned the song was written for an animated movie directed at kids (first and foremost). they could not have put Black Sweat or Love on there. Kids love the song and I think it fits the movie perfectly.

The bigger picture though is that the Oscars, the GG's and the Americans are shying away from the movie Happy Feet. I watched the movie and thought it was brilliant but then again I'm an environmentalist. The hierarchy are worried that the message of the film was too strong and may upset some people.

I don't think they can accept that an animated move can be also aimed at adults with an environmental message. It was a complete joke that Cars won best animated movie at the GG's. Seen it and doesnt compare to Happy Feet. Perhaps there should be a new category "Best Animated film for adults".

Maybe there is also some resentment that Happy Feet was made by Australians and we are losing that "flavour of the month" that has happened for a number of years. I hope I am proven wrong and it at least wins Best Animated film at the Oscars because as far as I can see it is the only nomination it received.
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Reply #78 posted 01/23/07 2:34pm

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Se7en said:

2elijah said:



Very true.


Clint Eastwood had a phase in the late 70's/80's where he made horrible movies. He shifted into directing and now consistently makes some of the best movies out there.


agreed. unforgiven is one of my favorite movies and i can't wait to see sons of iwo jima. he makes great movies but, like you said, he made some stinkers there for a while.
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Reply #79 posted 01/23/07 2:37pm

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funkyguitar2007 said:

audience1 said:

To me, it isn’t about what’s Oscar worthy, since that’s so subjective. It does, however, make his absence from a Golden Globes acceptance speech a bigger deal, at least in terms of exposure (if that’s what he wanted). Still, in its own way, by winning a GG, the song represents yet another success for Prince.


PRINCE WILL WIN AN BEST ACTOR OSCAR IN 2009 FOR THE LEAD ROLL IN THE MOVIE LIVING IN AMERICA! THE JAMES BROWN STORY!

I can feel it in my bones!


wow. i know that post was in fun but that made me think, what if prince really did star in a james brown biopic? how miscast could you get? i am just hoping that in actuality they don't go w/ usher. neutral
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Reply #80 posted 01/23/07 2:39pm

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Se7en said:

Did Happy Feet (the movie) get nomimated for an Oscar? If not, then the song shouldn't either . . .

I still think Song Of The Heart won the Golden Globe in part because of the charity aspect.


yeh, i think it was nominated for best animated feature along w/ cars and monster house.

is anyone else out there tired of CGI? whatever happened to traditional or stop motion animation? confused
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Reply #81 posted 01/23/07 2:49pm

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Hasn't Prince already won an Oscar for a song from "Purple Rain"?

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Reply #82 posted 01/23/07 2:49pm

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mul2std said:

Se7en said:

Did Happy Feet (the movie) get nomimated for an Oscar? If not, then the song shouldn't either . . .

I still think Song Of The Heart won the Golden Globe in part because of the charity aspect.


yeh, i think it was nominated for best animated feature along w/ cars and monster house.

is anyone else out there tired of CGI? whatever happened to traditional or stop motion animation? confused



I know! I am geting all of these CGI movies confused, because there are so many! Will they ever make hand drawn animated films ever again?
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Reply #83 posted 01/23/07 2:58pm

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UCantHavaDaMango said:

mul2std said:



yeh, i think it was nominated for best animated feature along w/ cars and monster house.

is anyone else out there tired of CGI? whatever happened to traditional or stop motion animation? confused



I know! I am geting all of these CGI movies confused, because there are so many! Will they ever make hand drawn animated films ever again?


Pixar films still start out using traditional 2-D hand-drawn images, then they make 3-D models, and then go to the computer to finish the animation. (I just learned this b/c Pixar is featured in an exhibition that I give tours on. geek)

Also, check out South African artist, William Kentridge. He makes short films out of charcoal drawings that he does on a single sheet of paper (instead of multiple 'cells'). He's not an animator, but his work is really fantastic. (I wrote my Master's Thesis on one of his films.)
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #84 posted 01/23/07 3:00pm

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mashedpotato said:

As some have mentioned the song was written for an animated movie directed at kids (first and foremost). they could not have put Black Sweat or Love on there. Kids love the song and I think it fits the movie perfectly.

The bigger picture though is that the Oscars, the GG's and the Americans are shying away from the movie Happy Feet. I watched the movie and thought it was brilliant but then again I'm an environmentalist. The hierarchy are worried that the message of the film was too strong and may upset some people.

I don't think they can accept that an animated move can be also aimed at adults with an environmental message. It was a complete joke that Cars won best animated movie at the GG's. Seen it and doesnt compare to Happy Feet. Perhaps there should be a new category "Best Animated film for adults".

Maybe there is also some resentment that Happy Feet was made by Australians and we are losing that "flavour of the month" that has happened for a number of years. I hope I am proven wrong and it at least wins Best Animated film at the Oscars because as far as I can see it is the only nomination it received.



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Reply #85 posted 01/23/07 3:03pm

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awww... neutral
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Reply #86 posted 01/23/07 3:16pm

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I wonder how many songs from Chicago got nominated? I bet it wasn't fucking three; plus one song is from a documentary?! You know those democrats in Hollywood gotta keep sucking on Al Gore's toes. And, hate to burst the hate bubble, but the song is very nice--better then all the crap from 3121.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #87 posted 01/23/07 3:46pm

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if he had stressed the "one world united" part in the song a bit more
then the Hollywood globalists would've been a little more accomodating
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Reply #88 posted 01/23/07 3:46pm

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the song is rather sucky. no surprise it didn't get nominated.
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Reply #89 posted 01/23/07 4:40pm

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I wonder if his nomination was hurt by his coming to the Golden Globe Awards late. I really thought he was going to get a nomination!!
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