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IrishEcho said: Who cares if he's black? That shouldn't matter at all - hello? So is Prince under all of his pretty makeup. My issues with LG (if I cared enough anymore to have issues with him) would be that he's BORING (you can fall asleep during his oft-repeated solo), PUSHY (remember that Tavis Smiley interview - how many times did he wave the GCS 2000 CD in front of the camera), the way his wife is always sort of "submissive" to him, his influence on Prince (no cussin anymore for "Baby Brother") and more than anything else, that white suit of his (his personal hygiene must be horrid - he wears that thing so often). Does he bathe?
oh come on, he probably has 14 of those suits. he has a job. | |
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IrishEcho said: the way his wife is always sort of "submissive" to him,
should she slap him around a little?  | |
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apollonia7 said: IrishEcho said: Who cares if he's black? That shouldn't matter at all - hello? So is Prince under all of his pretty makeup. My issues with LG (if I cared enough anymore to have issues with him) would be that he's BORING (you can fall asleep during his oft-repeated solo), PUSHY (remember that Tavis Smiley interview - how many times did he wave the GCS 2000 CD in front of the camera), the way his wife is always sort of "submissive" to him, his influence on Prince (no cussin anymore for "Baby Brother") and more than anything else, that white suit of his (his personal hygiene must be horrid - he wears that thing so often). Does he bathe?
oh come on, he probably has 14 of those suits. he has a job. You can't be sure of that...I've seen some nasty pit stains on it when he walks out into the audience to do his solo. | |
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apollonia7 said: IrishEcho said: the way his wife is always sort of "submissive" to him,
should she slap him around a little? I'd suggest repeated lashings with that silly towel. | |
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oceana said: I think larry is a great musician, he and Prince jam great together. JW or not... his personal life is none of mine (ours). Everybody needs somebody and if Prince chooses Larry as his friend then there is a reason. If Prince wants to be JW so be it, if Prince wants to be Catholic so be it, it Prince wants to be Mormon so be it. They are musicians and being great ones is all that should matter to anybody who Loves music, (not prince) but music!
Excellent point. The price you pay for being a Mega-Star; is everybody being all up in yo BIZNASS. I'm a Prince fan, I love him for his music. Whatever religion he decides to choose, that's him. Often times lately, you'll surely hear religious undertones in songs, if the entire song isn't religious. But he hasn't really said anything that I strongly disagree with. I don't like the whole women being inferior/servants/or submissive thing, but that is yet to be clarified by HIM. The main point I get from him is "Believe in God" As he said hear in Detroit @ the ONA Concert, "The Bottom line is: Love is God, and God is love..." (as Annastesia was playing) Blue Cashmere "Don't play me" Blue Cashmere "Don't play me" Blue  | |
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sniffin irishecho's avatar...my, that smells lovely. 
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IrishEcho said: apollonia7 said: IrishEcho said: Who cares if he's black? That shouldn't matter at all - hello? So is Prince under all of his pretty makeup. My issues with LG (if I cared enough anymore to have issues with him) would be that he's BORING (you can fall asleep during his oft-repeated solo), PUSHY (remember that Tavis Smiley interview - how many times did he wave the GCS 2000 CD in front of the camera), the way his wife is always sort of "submissive" to him, his influence on Prince (no cussin anymore for "Baby Brother") and more than anything else, that white suit of his (his personal hygiene must be horrid - he wears that thing so often). Does he bathe?
oh come on, he probably has 14 of those suits. he has a job. You can't be sure of that...I've seen some nasty pit stains on it when he walks out into the audience to do his solo. they don't call him funky for nuthin' | |
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Essence said: Notice you all chose to attack MileIsAlive and his poor spelling rather than register confessed Prince fan racists like "Funkbible" above. "Miles" was right at least in one case.
 his spelling is attacked because doing so is just as asinine as the point he is trying to make. not liking Larry does not qualify one as racist, just as liking larry does not mean someone is not. and in Funkbible's case, is he only a racist because he doesn't like Larry, or are there other factors at play? other factors is more likely, thus your point is invalid as well. at least you spelled it correctly. | |
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dumbass said: Essence said: Notice you all chose to attack MileIsAlive and his poor spelling rather than register confessed Prince fan racists like "Funkbible" above. "Miles" was right at least in one case.
his spelling is attacked because doing so is just as asinine as the point he is trying to make. not liking Larry does not qualify one as racist, just as liking larry does not mean someone is not. and in Funkbible's case, is he only a racist because he doesn't like Larry, or are there other factors at play? other factors is more likely, thus your point is invalid as well. at least you spelled it correctly. Well your speculating too, so rendering you equally invalid. You don't think a racist would dislike a dark skinned black male for that factor alone on some levels? Even if the name "Funkbible" is unfortunate... | |
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THAT IS NOT TURE !!!
I LOVE LARRY GRAHAM HE IS COOL!!! RACE DOSE NOT MATTER 2 ME ITS ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC!!! AND US WHITE FAMS ARE NOT CALLED FANS GET IT RIGHT IF U ARE A REAL FAM!!! U SO CALLED PRINCE FAN!!! life is a bitch .......Prince keeps me going every day ...pushing me 2 the top ....when i fill down and out .......he is all ways there on my side in his music | |
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Essence said: dumbass said: Essence said: Notice you all chose to attack MileIsAlive and his poor spelling rather than register confessed Prince fan racists like "Funkbible" above. "Miles" was right at least in one case.
his spelling is attacked because doing so is just as asinine as the point he is trying to make. not liking Larry does not qualify one as racist, just as liking larry does not mean someone is not. and in Funkbible's case, is he only a racist because he doesn't like Larry, or are there other factors at play? other factors is more likely, thus your point is invalid as well. at least you spelled it correctly. Well your speculating too, so rendering you equally invalid. You don't think a racist would dislike a dark skinned black male for that factor alone on some levels? Even if the name "Funkbible" is unfortunate... that's not speculation. undoubtedly, a racist does not like larry graham because he is black, but not liking larry graham does not automatically mean he is not liked because he is black and rendering the offender a racist, as milesisdead insinuated. maybe funkbible fits the description that miles set forth, but just because one perosn does does not mean the broad generalization is correct. in fact, it was a rather ignorant broad generalization that could not be any more false. it's the quivalent of my saying all people that don't like pizza are racist against italians, based on the fact that there is may be one person that does not like pizza and is in fact racist against italians. there could be many more factors at play, such as someone who is not racist againts italians but is allergic to tomato sauce or cheese. because they are allergic to tomato sauce and cheese makes them a racist? no, it means they don't like pizza. I for one have never listened top larry graham and personally don't give a shit about the man. I am a fan of Prince's music, not Larry's. does that make me a racist? hardly. your refutation to my point, while it may oppose what I said, is not a logical opposite, and shows no correlation between the factors in dispute. it is the equivalent of saying that because an oven does not work and will not heat food up it must be a refrigerator. it's called a "straw-man argument." | |
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dumbass said: Essence said: dumbass said: Essence said: Notice you all chose to attack MileIsAlive and his poor spelling rather than register confessed Prince fan racists like "Funkbible" above. "Miles" was right at least in one case.
his spelling is attacked because doing so is just as asinine as the point he is trying to make. not liking Larry does not qualify one as racist, just as liking larry does not mean someone is not. and in Funkbible's case, is he only a racist because he doesn't like Larry, or are there other factors at play? other factors is more likely, thus your point is invalid as well. at least you spelled it correctly. Well your speculating too, so rendering you equally invalid. You don't think a racist would dislike a dark skinned black male for that factor alone on some levels? Even if the name "Funkbible" is unfortunate... that's not speculation. undoubtedly, a racist does not like larry graham because he is black, but not liking larry graham does not automatically mean he is not liked because he is black and rendering the offender a racist, as milesisdead insinuated. maybe funkbible fits the description that miles set forth, but just because one perosn does does not mean the broad generalization is correct. in fact, it was a rather ignorant broad generalization that could not be any more false. it's the quivalent of my saying all people that don't like pizza are racist against italians, based on the fact that there is may be one person that does not like pizza and is in fact racist against italians. there could be many more factors at play, such as someone who is not racist againts italians but is allergic to tomato sauce or cheese. because they are allergic to tomato sauce and cheese makes them a racist? no, it means they don't like pizza. I for one have never listened top larry graham and personally don't give a shit about the man. I am a fan of Prince's music, not Larry's. does that make me a racist? hardly. your refutation to my point, while it may oppose what I said, is not a logical opposite, and shows no correlation between the factors in dispute. it is the equivalent of saying that because an oven does not work and will not heat food up it must be a refrigerator. it's called a "straw-man argument." Never said I agreed with sentiment of the message, the poster may just be trolling. The point that was made however was dismissed out of hand and intolerantly criticised for spelling rather than confronting it's content. "Funkbible" was just honest enought to admit what many here wouldn't... in one case AT LEAST the thread's message was proven correct. Also isn't it rather closed minded of you to critcise Larry when you know nothing of his musical merit? That's like saying you don't want to hear The NPG or any other Prince collaboration as your only in it for the man solo and a capella, no? | |
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JUST LIKE THAT PRINCE SONG MAD ! I AM GOING 2 GO MAD ! life is a bitch .......Prince keeps me going every day ...pushing me 2 the top ....when i fill down and out .......he is all ways there on my side in his music | |
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I'm so not a raceist!! I think Larry is cool!!! But I dont like the fact that HE WAS one of the reasons why Prince became a JW... I try not to care about Prince's religion but listen to TRC where is all the dirty talking?? :LOL: | |
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MilesIsAlive said: you always want to bash larty G one because he is black & JW.
First of all, i'm not white. Second of all, i've been bashing Larry since day 1. Larry almost single-handledly RUINED Prince. "Larry is a legend?" I don't think so. Larry used to be the bass player in one of the best funk bands of the 70's. He wasn't the BEST bass player from those days. Not even close. James Jamerson is a LEGEND. Louis Johnson is a LEGEND. That guy that made "One in a Million" is not a legend. And add Larry to that list of artists that did their best work when they were wacked out on drugs. Not saying that you have to be that way to be a good musician. But if you were when you were at your peak, then chances are better than average that you're not going to be that good when you sober up. Larry showed up and ruined the party for everybody else. He's not that good of a bassist anymore. Prince has had much much better. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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Larry is a great bassist IMO and I certainly do not hate Larry, or anyone for that matter. But, there are some things that puzzle me when it comes to Larry. For example, him coming on stage to "raise the roof" or to just walk around. He should come on stage to play bass. Maybe, for whatever reasons, Prince feels that is it important to Larry to come on stage to feel the crowd. It also puzzles me that Larry is always with Prince and attends almost all of his performances in every town. It is almost like he is watching every action of Prince's for certain reasons. Larry is a family man and I would think that he would want to spend a lot of his time with his daughter and wife.
Uncertain if true, I have heard of times when Larry would be upset with Prince for cursing in performances, and times where Prince would use curse words when Larry was not present. When I hear of such things, it does make me speculate about what Larry is telling Prince in regards to his past behavior and the impact it can have on him in the future. It is true that Larry cannot make or force Prince to do anything, but he could be using fear and guilt to strongly persuade Prince to change his actions and past, his beliefs, and/or his language. I hope Prince is changing because he feels he needs to be a "better" person inside, not because he feels guilty or fearful of what may happen to him in the future. I think Prince can and did find out on his own what needed to be changed in his life to make him feel better about himself, and he could have changed those areas on his own. If Prince wants to be a "better" person and example, he doesn't have to change his language (to an extent), his past (editing and such), and especially his beliefs (and how he goes about sharing his views). His actions from the past may not have been "saintly", but he was still a loving and beautiful person within, just as he will always be. | |
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LOL you guys are so funny! Personally i don't mind prince being a jw; he can come and convert me anytime . Anything to get him over here!! | |
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Essence said: Also isn't it rather closed minded of you to critcise Larry when you know nothing of his musical merit? That's like saying you don't want to hear The NPG or any other Prince collaboration as your only in it for the man solo and a capella, no?
and where have I criticized Larry? | |
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dumbass said: Essence said: Also isn't it rather closed minded of you to critcise Larry when you know nothing of his musical merit? That's like saying you don't want to hear The NPG or any other Prince collaboration as your only in it for the man solo and a capella, no?
and where have I criticized Larry? You declared no interest in him despite having done no research. Semantics. | |
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cloreenbaconskin said: You should all be ashamed of yourselfs!!! Putting down a living legend larry graham? The inventer of slap bass playing, and major figure in the development of funk music!
How can you be a fan of Prince's music and say such things? Are there any fans out there that agree with me? Usually when I read things on this Org. it seams like most of you have no idea about where Prince and his music have come from or its foundations I really have a hard time finding Prince fans that I can relate to. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I didn't mean to I just would like to meet someone I could relate to when it comes to talking about Prince's music. Please reconsider your understanding on L.G. No, I don't like his influence because he's black. Milesisalive told me so, and he speaks the truth! Guess I'll go throw all those Stevie Wonder, Sly Stone, jimi Hendrix, Marvin Gaye, Fishbone, Living Color, Miles Davis, Public Enemy, Otis Redding, Funkadelic, Tracy Chapman, Alicia Keyes, Prince, and James Brown CD's in the trash. HOLY SHIT! They're black? What the fuck was I thinking? (Insert rolling eyes and heavy sigh here). What a fucking cynical, counterproductive retard. I like LG as a bass player, and generally, I think Prince is too independent minded to be so easily brainwashed. I think a lot of his religous discoveries have to do with the death of both of his parents in sucj a short period of time. Reminders of one's own mortality can lead to such thoughts. Notice how many people turn to religion as they age? Probably out of fear. And while we're at it, MilesIsAlive, why don't you hop on here and tell me EVERYTHING you know about ME? I'm waiting. Shouldn't take long. [This message was edited Sat Jul 13 14:22:30 PDT 2002 by herbthe4] | |
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MilesIsAlive said: you always want to bash larty G one because he is black & JW.
Care to explain the massive admiration I have for John Blackwell or my disdain for Micheal Bolton and John Tesh? You're right. ALL black people are GREAT! Even you! I love EVERYBODY! Sheesh!!! We ARE ALL PREJUDICE, by definition. I could give a shit about Larry Graham or Prince's religion either way. What does that make ME???? [This message was edited Sat Jul 13 13:59:34 PDT 2002 by herbthe4] | |
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*racist...ya bonehead | |
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*toward...no "s" needed | |
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herbthe4 said: Notice how many people turn to religion as they age? Probably out of fear.
Or out of gaining wisdom as they age that most young folx don't have? | |
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Bladerunner said: herbthe4 said: Notice how many people turn to religion as they age? Probably out of fear.
Or out of gaining wisdom as they age that most young folx don't have? Perhaps. Touche. I still think it's fear of death. Maybe that's wisdom in and of itself. Nothing like realization of your own mortality to set you thinking. | |
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MilesIsAlive said: you always want to bash larty G one because he is black & JW.
Yawn I suppose my annoyance with your ignorance in such simple matters as spelling makes me a racist too... I know you're just trying to whip people up, but please get a life and drop tired subjects like this... | |
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Essence said: dumbass said: Essence said: Also isn't it rather closed minded of you to critcise Larry when you know nothing of his musical merit? That's like saying you don't want to hear The NPG or any other Prince collaboration as your only in it for the man solo and a capella, no?
and where have I criticized Larry? You declared no interest in him despite having done no research. Semantics. no, not semantics. criticizing someone and not having an interest is completely different. there are plenty of things in this world that are great that I have never experienced and have no desire to. one does not need to do research or seek out new things when they already have plenty of interests. I've heard the larry jahams that were inserted into the audio shows and they don't interest me. if they are not examples of his best work, too bad, I don't care. more than likely I will never be into larry, that does not mean I have criticized him. I do not mean to attack you in any way, but your continual responses to my posts have only exemplified your ignorance in these matters. let's recap. you have claimed coincidence equals correlation, which is not true. you defended this point by saying that I criticized Larry, which again is not true. then further defended that mistake as a matter of semantics, which, again, is not the case. if I were you, I'd cut my losses and retreat from this matter. [This message was edited Sat Jul 13 15:11:42 PDT 2002 by dumbass] | |
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apollonia7 said:[quote] EYESEEINSIDEU said: It's not that we dont like Larry because he is black...it wouldnt matter if he were black or white. It is the fact(in my opinion) that he is a JW. I see that not as a religion,but as a cult.
I am a christian and I believe in God. But I dont agree with the JW "rituals". They have convinced people that in order to save a place in heaven for themselves,they have to earn there way in,by recruiting people every week and that if they dont they are looked down on and are told the will lose their place in heaven. This is false. Only those who are saved go to heaven. It doesnt say you have a quota to fill before your time here on earth is over that will get you into heaven!
/quote] you do not know what yer talking about, babe. i do not go out and recruit people "every week" and do not even care about going to heaven... if you are going to insult us (including prince), at least know what you are insulting first. you sound so ignorant. [sigh] I am not going to start a fight here. What I wrote was what I was told about Jehovah Witnesses. If it is wrong, then I apologize. But with what I have seen of JW's and heard from people that know JW's...I only knew that of what I wrote. Just a question...why does it matter when you dont even practice the religion? I mean you said you dont even care if you go to heaven and all that. This is a question,not an attack. Its not the person I dont agree with, its the religion.  Eye see the amber ashes in your eyes... Left from the spark of luv inside u... It can't keep hidden... And won't be contained... This is the kind of spark that will 4ever remain...  | |
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Bibleteacher89 said: don't start dumb threads...I am White. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I am a Larry Graham fan as well as one of Prince. JWs or not, they are great musicians. What's all this racist crap? Quit playing that tired card. God is not partial, why should we be?
you're a tired sack of crap. your god is so partial that it's scary. don't give us the "god is not partial" shit. where are the black men on your board of directors? has there ever been a black head of your church? why were blacks seperated from whites in kingdom hall until the 70's? eat a stick of dynomite you ugly lump of rotten cabbage! | |
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