MrHappy said:

Zack, zack, zack! Dast kat mann zerten mast zerstoren!

JohnDoe

ps: like it

I hope he does not bring this piece-of-crap tour to the United States. I have had enough of the hit medleys.

For once, BVH is spot on.

Krid said:

This has to be one of the more mature approaches to the "pop"-ularity of artists that I have read. You cannot please all the people all the time. Hence, no one is on top forever.

Okay, okay, I'll stop with the cliches.

Important question to BVH (and yet god knows how much I hate the idea of a greatest hits tour):

DO YOU LIKE PRINCE ? IF NOT (or if not since the mid-1990s), WHY DO YOU ACTUALLY COME HERE ?

You seem like a young teenage girl who put too much faith in her boyfriend and then feels betrayed simply because he's not the 100% perfect guy she tought he was...

In a word: you are pathetic

I probably never loved Prince as much as you, and that's probably why I still like him very much even though I share your view that he has declined (well, like any other genius of the 20th century i know, and probably much less than most of them, so no big deal)

BartVanHemelen said:

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In the US Clear Channel owns a lot of the small venues that Prince performed at during the ONA tour. He did not seem to have any problem making anti-clear channel comments from their stages on the ONA tour.

Clear Channel sucks ass and should be critized.

BartVanHemelen said:

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This is the perfect example of the saying that you cannot please all the people all the time. If Prince does a greatest hits people like Bart get pissed off. If Prince does ONA with little or no popular hits people get pissed off.
In the end Prince has do what he feels is best. He really cannot continue to charge $100.00 for tickets and not play the hits. People get disappointed and will not come to back to see him perform.

I liked the hits tour and I liked ONA. I think he is one of the best live performers around right now and he should continue to tour as long as people want to see a great show.

So what is this? Another swan song for Prince? Ya know, I am so sick of him and his damn high horse!!! He needs to check himself and "get offa it!" "NEWS" is a suck ass CD and no one's feeling the DVD. Oh boy... what a f**king waste!

"Lemme give you give you some good advice, junior: no one digs ya music but yaself!"

Hmm...

Hi from Germany !!!

Please com 2 Frankfurt again...

greetings from...me

I don't understand some people's aversion to "the hits," like it's a bad thing to have a body of songs that people love. That's the whole point of making records, right? Prince is in an enviable position in that his catalog is so deep... he could actually play a whole gig minus his biggest radio hit -- which, I believe, is "Doves" -- and no one will miss it. The oft-maligned tours of '97-'98 had one great song after another. If he's too old to jump off the piano and would rather stand and play the whole night, then fine. If it's too expensive or too ridiculous to have the bed fly over the audience again, then fine. If he thinks he's too old to sing "Head" or "Little Red Corvette," or too sick of it to convincingly perform "Purple Rain" again, then fine. But I'll take the rest of "the hits" any day over meandering pseudo-fusion instrumentals or preaching about "one true God -- I know who he is and you don't," because that's not what Prince does best, that's not what his value is as a musician or pop star. His value lies in superior, idiosyncratic pop songwriting coupled with a devastating live presentation.

Krid said:

Add the Who and David Bowie to the list of artists who said many times they would "never play those old songs again " LOL

haha - hell never retire the hits! theyre his bread and butter now - and prob will be unless he stops making CDs like NEWS. i love the way artists always say that. i pray he does them justice though and doesnt give them the smooth jazz treatment. prince should be showing people he can rock again, given that rock is undergoing somehting of a revival right now. its a missed opportunity - hes one of the greatest guitarists out there - he should go and prove it. if he wrote some decent new rock/pop songs that wouldnt hurt either.

You are so right, chief. Prince has been saying he's gonna retire the hits forever, man... and I will believe it when I see it. I just think that Prince is going through a serious mid-life crisis right now and it's affecting everything. This jazz stuff: I'm not buying nor am I buying the whole "I am holier than thou" crap that he is pulling. I have said it a million times: just rock out, Prince! Just come with a serious rock album and like clockwork the fans will be back. Let's face it, he hasn't made a real great album since "The Gold Experience" and that was 1995! Basically, he is one step away from being a legends act.

thirstinhowlVIII said:

i sure hope this WORLD TOUR happens.as for his greatest hits, well, i could listen to them everyday of the week. and if he has a greatest hits concert every year, i will be the first to purchase a ticket.i go to EW&F concerts every 2 years and they haven't had a hit in ages, but their greatest hits kick ass.

Alrighty...he'll be bringing out all of his hits. What's so different about this tour than any other? I've seen this man 5 times since the show this date (Sept 18) in 1988 at the Rosemont Horizon in Chicago. The last time I saw him was on June 28, 2001 at the biggest music festival in the world, SummerFest, where he headlined the main stage that night. That was supposed to be the tour to start promoting TRC……..but he still did a number of “hits”. Yes, he mixed in a few songs that no-one, but his loyal followers, knew but he still did some for the masses.

Those of you complaining need to lighten up…..he’s no different from ANY other musician out there! He’ll do the songs that the masses love……and you love them too! And if he’s touring for money what’s wrong with that? Isn’t making music and touring his “job”? Is he not supposed to make a living?

Some people just have to complain about everything!

"Twas like THUNDER!"

ThaThunderCer

Bart,

Fine you can be the jackass that does not go to see Prince!!! I will continue to go see Prince!!! You Jackass!!!

realm said:

Funny how my opinion seems to get on the nerves of so many people. What's the problem, don't like it when someone points out that the emperor has no clothes?

TedW said:

People have something against Prince playing crap versions of songs he's sick of playing. Especially when he's clearly doing it for monetary reasons. Or is anyone gonna pretend this concert is going to be an artistic statement?

Krid said:

Heard Johnny Cash's last couple of albums? Seen Sonic Youth lately? Or what about those Cuban guys? Randy Newman?

Krid said:

Prince has changed, but not evolved. Instead he's become what he swore never to become (and even plays Vegas regularly). Do you really think it's a coincidence that few people care about him now, while so many did until he lost the plot?
[This message was edited Thu Sep 18 16:27:50 PDT 2003 by BartVanHemelen]

GustavoRibas said:

Nonsense. It was "look mum no hands" muso BS, pointless medleys, excerpts of songs as an excuse for more doodling, and the occasional speech.

GustavoRibas said:

The first part of the Lovesexy show is a medly for a reason, and the songs are played often with exciting new arrangements and never you get the feeling of "well the fans expect this so let's get through this quick".

GustavoRibas said:

And even despite the crappy stuff I still love plenty of the Nude show I saw. (D&P however is a disaster.)

GustavoRibas said:

Then you got a different set than me. The aftershow disc in particular is horrible and almost ruined "Joy In Repetition" for me.

GustavoRibas said:

He isn't. He's pretending he is, but it's just a pose. It's a marketing strategy, aimed at the neo-soul audience (because he realised the pop audience was lost for him, so was the r&b audience, etc.). The "we're musicians" thing is simply an attempt at creating exclusivity, and thus allowing him to charge more for concerts while at the same time not putting money in stage sets etc.

BartVanHemelen said:

You do this every single time, Bart.

Of course, I too don't believe this will be the last time he performs the hits, but he probably convinced himself it was really the last time. Trouble is... he'll have to change his mind unless he's absolutely dead serious and it has something to do with his spiritual views and what he wants to do later.

As for the cash flow thing, hmmm... You said that for the Hit n Run show and you panned the One Nite Alone tour as some cynical ploy. Now it's again about "cash flow"... And? Prince makes his living as a musician...

You colour everything he does Cynical Blue, like Prince sat in some room and said to himself : "I'm going to cash in on the fans again and I'm going to lie to them! Hahahahahahaha!!"

Relax... it's a tour, and Prince is a musician, not some kind of Pope of Pop with his own Ten Commandments to follow.

BartVanHemelen said:

Johnny Cash was in his seventies. Prince has plenty of time to come back if he wants to. As for Sonic Youth, thos "Cuban guys" and -- he of the hundreds of sappy movie songs -- Randy Newman, it hardly compares.

Nah... you're just pissing all over Prince's latest venture like you usually do. The ONA tour was GREAT -- it's not exactly what you dream Prince would do, so it's supposed to be alll bad. Come on now... Are you actually hoping Prince can make you happy ever again? You know you can't get over your intense dislike for everything he does, and it shows.

I wonder if he will b 2 busy with the tour 2 b at Sheila's
Family Jam benifit show in December...



Why does this Post sound Bogis?

BartVanHemelen said:

Gee Bart you certainly are well versed on someone you so readily attack..you seem to have a love/hate obsession for Prince..is there anything that he could do that u would be satified with?..its only MUSIC ..and not that serious...i am glad he is touring whether it be the hits, jazz whatever...

BartVanHemelen said:

Yeah right fuck nut! I'm pointing out your a complete jackass!! Say now are you saying Prince has no right to cash in to make some money? WTF nimrod.. thats fucking plain stupid. What jackasses do not understand is you pay and you get to go to a show. You pay you get a dvd. You pay you get music. You've never done shit for me why should I ever pay you? Well, look we pay Prince for the show, the music. Your opinion is if it sucks is your jackass opinion. Ohh, go ahead, tell me how it sucked to get into soundchecks, tell me the celebrations blow, tell me how TRC sucked big time, tell me how the DVD sucks shit. Jackass go ahead.. the hit n run tour was all about money.. etc.. etc.. You put together a show, you get a crew, you promote a tour, your take the time to put the show together, go ahead Bart you put together a good band go hire John Blackwell, you seem to know it all.. I'm sure you can find the money to finance the Bart tour jackass. Fucking for real. Tours take money to make money and ticket prices are higher and its not 1984 anymore. He's just cashing in..like he really needs to..like he is broke like the common people, yeah fucking right. Jackass.

BartVanHemelen said:

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Gosh, thanks for your narrow-minded perspective on this. We need the negativity - it really helps the world. I thought all that mattered was the music. If you want to vent, go to AOL and post something there, but please let us alone.

Huge world tour
great promotion company
breaking out the hits
20 year Purple Rain Celebration in 2004
Possible reunion with Revolution

oh, sorry don't mind me. I'm just making my list of reasons not to bitch about being a Prince fan ..now where was I...

X

BartVanHemelen said:

- Yes, but it still had those ´I am a showman´ moments. Remember Blues in C? It´s a nice song, he plays nice guitar...but there is a time where he only hits one note and starts making poses. He chose as a priority to do a showmanship thing instead of a great solo. There were other moments, but this one annoyed me most.


- yeah...I love Nude Tour too. I have the Japan video, and it was the greatest live version of ´When doves cry´ I ever saw. The heavy bass + Rosie + his piano solo worked real well. ´Do me baby´ and ´Question of U´ were great too.

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- I agree partly. The aftershow could have been a lot better. I love the first songs and Dorothy Parker, but there are some flat jams there. I wish they were replaced by more obscure songs like ´Question of U´ and ´Something in the water (does not compute)´. Disc 1 is fine for me. Disc 2 has those piano medleys that are boring, but great versions of ´Everlasting Now´ and ´Anna Stesia´.
About ´Joy in repetition´...I think it´s one of his finest guitar playing ever. Raw and emotional. True Prince.


- I honestly hope you are wrong. I think it´s time for Prince to reach maturity as a musician. Why hire another guitar player if he is able to handle the guitars pretty well? Why not put more dissonant chords in his songs? More intrincate harmonies? I agree that NEWS and Xpectations are not innovative/creative. But I am curious if he will some time mix his jazz influence with something more daring. Let´s wait and see.

Guys seriously... can you all relax, must we all get so technicial and political about what the concert is about and the motive behind the concert??

As an Aussie I am just grateful he is coming, whether he is here to sing "When Doves Cry" for the 1000th time or his own rendition of "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" I couldn't care less... he will always shine in my eyes, I love him as an artist unconditionally... I know this will most likely be my only chance to see him in the flesh and hear his beautiful voice live so I am going to savour every single second of it...

You are my saviour.. you are my light.. forever I want you, in my life... da da da da da da da da

BartVanHemelen said:

I don't think the old tunes on the ONA tour were "crap versions" at all. "Take Me With U" and "Strange Relationship" from the live record (and shows I saw) were played with total conviction. And "clearly doing it for monetary reasons" is a non-criticism: Prince has always conducted his career as that of a working musician. He plays gigs and makes records. That's what he does. That's what he's always done, since he was a teenager. Of course he goes on the road to make money -- but it's not like some "cash in" thing like Fleetwood Mac or Kiss or somebody.

I'm as critical of Prince as anybody, but you are clearly a troll.