Found this rather odd message in the News Section of the NPGMC website:

"Xcerpt from the 4thcoming:
"Modern technology has given us the means 2 produce an endless supply of nearly perfect copies of an original. But it cannot reproduce INSPIRATION — and neither can it produce perfect copies of the sensations u felt in ur body, mind and soul the last time u found urself in tune with a work of art that u were xperiencing. This is something u need 2 constantly work on, and u also need 2 learn 2 accept the fact that such sensations r never twice the same." -NPGMC 2003"

Does any orger have a clue?

Thanks

Right, but following this logic to the end, there should be no recorded music at all, as all records surely are "copies" of the music performed live.

And - gotta say - my copy of SOTT still let's me feel the inspiration in the record...

And - you don't need to constantly work on finding yourself in tune with a work of art - either the work of art hits you or not, but it is not the other way around.

yeah, it's his lame excuse about the poor quality of the ona dvd.

it must be embarrassing for him knowing that that dvd is one of the worst quality dvds of all time in regards to the quality of the video...

actually "quality" and "ona dvd" should never again be used in the same sentence.

and for you sheep out there who are about to waste your keystrokes typing "i don't see what's so bad! it's better than nothing!", try buying a few more dvds first.

out of my 912 dvds, this is easily the worst looking one. prince AND universal should be ashamed for releasing it...

p.s. thanks to DaFunkFreak and others for continuing to check the npgmc website so that the rest of us don't have to.

Having read the World Tour news, is this a cryptic message about the upcoming tour? Is he gonna perform "the hits" for the last time? (sensations are never twice the same) ie playing the same tunes at concerts over and over, loses the sensation, the inspiration. Sensations felt through your body - you get more of that in concert than from a recording - even with SOTT! And technology capable of making perfect copies - are we gonna get concert by concert releases through NPGMC that we all say we want?
Whatever it is, there'll be comments made, rumours passed etc as there usually is. Until we find out more, it passes the time!

912 dvd's? Damn, do you ever leave the house? When U R old, you'll be able to look back and say that you sure watched a lot of TV. Good for U. But, on the other hand, the ONA dvd is the worse I've seen. Just razzing 'ya.

He's right. I'm glad he can say the same thing over yet in a slightly different way. I think that's all that is being said.

@ the drama queens...

suomynona said:

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Sharpen your reading skills. This message has nothing to do with the DVD. It is about retiring the hits.
If you do not like the DVD then that is your opinion. Don't try to speak for everyone else or get upset because Prince is putting some money in his pocket.

laurarichardson:

it is everyone's opinion except for those that only have prince dvds to judge the quality. anyone that has more than 5 dvds knows that this is one of the worst dvds in regards to video of all time. any respected publication that has reviewed the disc has commented on it's poor video quality... so wake up

as for prince putting money in his pocket? i'm not upset at that. i don't think anyone is. we're all here to support him... it's just some of us are capable of supporting while being able to be critical of such glaring poor decisions as this one...

it's unfortunate too, because with prince cutting out all of the swearing and lewdness at this stage of his career, the dvd could be being played as a reference disc across the country... but you will not see the ONA dvd being played *anywhere* because only an imbecile would play this to show off the quality of hdtv... hell... you won't even see this being played on $149 televisions at wal-mart, that's how poor the quality is.

well at least the sound quality is reference. gotta love that dolby digital 5.1 and dts...

oh wait. no it's not. it's no better sounding than the ONA 3cd set.

eventually prince will learn. then again, it's all about the money for him, or else he wouldn't have allowed "purple rain" to have been released on dvd the way it was...

kind of makes you wonder about the "bootleg" dvd of "sign o' the times" that's being sold everywhere...
"#1 at the bank."

It sounds (to me) like he's finally re-recorded his old stuff, and is going to re-release the material. Moreover, it sounds like some of the new material may have a uniquely different flavor than the originals. Say, instead of Wendy and Lisa backing him up, we have have Rosie Gains. Instead of SHeena Easton signing "U got the Look", it may be Larry Graham. Perhaps he'll even turn Jughead (From Diamonds N Pearls) into a sprawling 15 minute epic adventure we have to live through again. Who knows. At leaste when I get news from PRince.org it means something. NPMC is just a place I order songs from--and lately, it's been slim pickins.

AsianBomb777 said:

that's what I thought it meant also. heard he was re-recording all the old stuff and re-releasing it. that's a more plausible explanation for the message and when you look at it this way it hardly seems cryptic.

that's great news... hopefully it's as good/well received as "1999: the new master"

4 some, it is still about "hits", "popularity", & "being in touch with what's currently considered "hot". 4 others, it goes a lot deeper. It's as it should b.

I think this means he has re-recorded Purple Rain and or a collection of hits and has plans to release it. But I do my best to translate.

"Modern technology has given us the means 2 produce an endless supply of nearly perfect copies of an original"

Translation:I sampled a bunch of tracks, it was just easier to do so.

"But it cannot reproduce INSPIRATION — and neither can it produce perfect copies of the sensations u felt in ur body, mind and soul the last time u found urself in tune with a work of art that u were xperiencing"

Translation: You're not 16 anymore so at this enlighten age you're going to compare this rerecording to the original and bitch and moan that it's not as good.

"This is something u need 2 constantly work on, and u also need 2 learn 2 accept the fact that such sensations r never twice the same."

Translation: I can never give you that Cherry Moon high again, get over it!

Anyway that's my take.
X

READ THIS PASSAGE VERY CAREFULLY! It will certainly answer any questions:

Inspiration is an internal phenomenon - it's something that happens inside a person. Though people will, and have, argued that there are external things that can "make" you feel a certain way, this is not so. Nothing external can "make" you a person do, say or feel anything. (A good example of this is that no one can make an alcoholic stay clean.) The song can be there, but it takes the person to get inspired behind it, and one person gets inspiration in a different way than another.

Case in point: Take the song Purple Rain - there is nothing in and of the song itself that makes me feel inspired (there is no innate value or force contained in this song. At first, I really didn't like the song. Then, one day, I was listening to the coda on a little radio, and boom! it happened. The only difference was that I wasn't inspired by the song until that moment. How this happened was that I had to let the song get inside my listening, otherwise I would still dislike this song. The song was there, and it took me getting inspired by the song before it had any effect.

I know that some of you will disagree with me, and such disagreement will only go to prove the point. In just the same way, it's so that this is my perspective, I can't make you see things my way. I would also speculate that this is a main reason why Prince was so pro-organic music for a time.

It is everyone's opinion except for those that only have prince dvds to judge the quality. anyone that has more than 5 dvds knows that this is one of the worst dvds in regards to video of all time. any respected publication that has reviewed the disc has commented on it's poor video quality... so wake up

Just because everyone says this doesn't mean it's true, and I've not yet seen the dvd. Agreement that it's poor quality doesn't make it true - that's not a reality-based test.

and for you sheep out there who are about to waste your keystrokes typing "i don't see what's so bad! it's better than nothing!", try buying a few more dvds first.

out of my 912 dvds, this is easily the worst looking one. prince AND universal should be ashamed for releasing it...[/quote]

I just bought the "ona" dvd, and it's clear to me that this was in the same vein as Sign Of the Times, except that Prince kept it true to the experience.

So, yes, I DON'T SEE WHAT'S SO BAD (ya wanna make something of it?). As for calling us sheep, what reward were you hoping to get by saying this? Why don't you do us a favor, and get off it.

I just bought the "ona" dvd, and it's clear to me that this was in the same vein as Sign Of the Times, except that Prince kept it true to the experience.

I agree! The first thoughts I had were of the Sign o the Times movie. It had that same look and feeling which I think a lot of people jsut didn't get. Anyway it worked for me and my 13 bucks.

Never let bitter people paint your perception...they only know green and blue.

X

adorable2 said:

nahhh, no wayyy,

why would prince spend more energy on the old stuff...
I'm hoping he's only saying "U've been playing my stuff over and over, now come see it live.

suomynona said:

"is everyone's opinion except for those that only have prince dvds to judge the quality. anyone that has more than 5 dvds knows that this is one of the worst dvds in regards to video of all time. any respected publication that has reviewed the disc has commented on it's poor video quality... so wake up "
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Unless you have taken a poll from all of the people who purchased the DVD than you have no way of knowing how people feel about the quality of the picture. There are people on this thread who are quite happy with the DVD.

The picture quality is not great but, there are lots of bootleg DVDs that suck and I bet that does not bother you.
Prince made this thing with his own money. He is not WB and he is going to try and make a profit off of the DVD by keeping the production cheap. It is not anything new that fans are not aware of. You are the only person that acts surprised and offended. Get a life !!!

---it's unfortunate too, because with prince cutting out all of the swearing and lewdness at this stage of his career, the dvd could be being played as a reference disc across the country... but you will not see the ONA dvd being played *anywhere* because only an imbecile would play this to show off the quality of hdtv... hell... you won't even see this being played on $149 televisions at wal-mart, that's how poor the quality is."

Is swearing and lewdness more important than the music to you. I brought the DVD for the music not to see lewdness. I do not want to see Prince's 45 year old ass hanging out. It looks like Prince finally grew up and decided to act his age. It is too bad that some of his fans are still stuck in the 80's.

"or else he wouldn't have allowed "purple rain" to have been released on dvd the way it was..."

How would the quality of the Purple Rain cd have anything to do with Prince. The movie is owned by Warner Brothers.
There is nothing stopping them from improving the sound quality.

laurarichardson said:

once again, you're showing your qualities that should get you nominated as head sheep of the org.

1. you couldn't possibly be more correct. the overwhelming response on the org is that the video quality is fantastic

2. i don't own any bootleg dvds. not one... and as for your making excuses of having a low budget, whatever. all of those people worked for peanuts. i guess you've never heard of kevin smith's story at the celebration either. kevin must be "a bitter fucker that needs to get a life" too, according to you...
p.s. nice of you to add your usual "get a life" comment at the end. it's always extra satisfying when you add that on to let me know that the truth was really starting to bother you...

3. re-read what i said about the swearing and lewdness. i'm not even going to bother answering your question because you didn't read it. (which isn't that surprising... you were busy finishing off that gallon of purple kool aid... we all understand

4. lastly, movies aren't released on cds. once again laura, you've stuck your foot in your mouth by showing that you don't really have a clue what you're talking about.

next time, come prepared, or don't come at all.

poetbear68 said:

when you actually buy a dvd player and watch it on your television, get back to me. kthx

HombreX said:

and for others it's about owning the masters so he can be number one at the bank.

hits & popularity? you mean... like what he tried to accomplish with "rave unto the joy fantastic" and "1999: the new master"? haha. you guys are killing me this morning.

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[This message was edited Fri Sep 19 7:48:55 PDT 2003 by suomynona]

suomynona said:

1. you couldn't possibly be more correct. the overwhelming response on the org is that the video quality is fantastic "
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I never said the picture quality was great. It is not as bad as you are making out to be. If you took the time to read some of the comments on some of the other theads you would find their are people who are satisfied with it. Do they think the picture quality is great no they do not but, they love the music.
Of course you would not take the time to read anything positve because your opinion is law (LOL) It is called an opinion you could save us all the boredom and keep yours to yourself.

"i don't own any bootleg dvds. not one... and as for your making excuses of having a low budget, whatever. all of those people worked for peanuts. i guess you've never heard of kevin smith's story at the celebration either. kevin must be "a bitter fucker that needs to get a life" too, according to you...
p.s. nice of you to add your usual "get a life" comment at the end. it's always extra satisfying when you add that on to let me know that the truth was really starting to bother you... "

Since you do not own any bootleggs I will let you in on a little secret. The picture and sound quality sucks on most of them yet that does not seem to stop people from buying them or signing their praises. In my opinion the Vegas DVD is better than having a bootleg. It my not have occured to you that Prince may have been trying to mimic the quality of bootlegg recordings with this DVD.

I think Kevin Smith a fool for working for free. Just my opinion. You can only be taken advantage of if you want to be taken advantage of. Of course you know this because you keep buying Prince merchandise and coming to this board.
Dispite the fact that you dislike everything he puts out.
I am sorry I really do think you do not have a life.

re-read what i said about the swearing and lewdness. i'm not even going to bother answering your question because you didn't read it. (which isn't that surprising... you were busy finishing off that gallon of purple kool aid... we all understand :lol"

I re-read what you typed and I did misunderstand your comments. However, you are wrong about the video losing a chance at being aired. The DVD will be shown on Direct TV.
Just maybe people will tune in because they want to hear the music and not sit around being tech-geeks worrying about the picture quality.



"lastly, movies aren't released on cds. once again laura, you've stuck your foot in your mouth by showing that you don't really have a clue what you're talking about.

Please explain your silly ass comment below. I was under the impression we were discussing DVD's not cds.

"eventually prince will learn. then again, it's all about the money for him, or else he wouldn't have allowed "purple rain" to have been released on dvd the way it was... "

The last time I looked the DVD for Purple Rain as well as the cd are under the control of WB not Prince.

Your so busy being a negative nay sayer that you do not pay attention to what you are knocking.

Like I said before everybody has their own opinion but, when you try to speak for everyone else you come off as being obnoxious.

AsianBomb777 said:

what a terrible nightmare
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[This message was edited Fri Sep 19 9:01:06 PDT 2003 by jn2]

aw laura, what does my having a life or not have to do with your hero releasing dvd with the worst video quality of all time?

when the people that say there's nothing wrong with the video get an actual dvd player and watch it on their television rather than on a computer screen, only then will i actually listen to what they have to say... and that's only if they don't have a purple tongue.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY 9/12/03
(NPG/Hip-O) It seems "Money Don't Matter 2 Night" when it comes to paying for a pro filming job: Live looks like it was shot by fans who snuck Super-8s into the Aladdin and had their tapes confiscated. But the music nearly makes the visual shoddiness 4-givable. Even with his dirty stuff banished from the set, Prince works up a good, dry sweat, his current favoring of James Brown-style big-band soul revue and jazz fusion broken up by occasional blasts of rock-guitar heroism (including a "Whole Lotta Love" cover!).
yeah. that person must not have a life either.

I think, it's pretty obvious he is talking about the inspiration, and events that went into making many of his classics, such great material... and I am really glad he does understand how important the music is to the millions of people, that his music has influenced in one way or another...

I thought he was talking cloning being unnatural, and that the person who wrote is against it.