Jimmy said:

cheers Jimmy - just being paranoid for a mo.

So the challenge for all is...what's the Prince connection in Ohio ?

freakyfeet said:

they might have a WB logo, but they were UNOFFICIALLY released. in this case, official means 'under contract', so unnofficial essentially means 'prince gets no money'.

hey, if you don't want to help...don't. no need to mouth off so much. Technically they could send police round every members house to pick up ur boots - this seems like a nice friendly request by comparison.

sinaplenty said:

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

That is the fucking funniest shit I've heard in ages

Please could you share your legal training with us all as I'd love to know where you learned that !!

sinaplenty said:

...and not respecting peoples differences is known as ignorance

i have to say i almost fell off my chair when i read this email.

they treat us like shit when it comes to ordering and receiving 'exclusive' material from the club (ONA Live, NEWS, ONA Piano for eg.) and now they want us to just give up our paid for CD's and vinyl?

R they INSANE?!!!

If I email them and ask them to return anything with a dollar sign on it that belongs to me since i've joined the NPGMC and been shafted I wonder how much of a response I will get? Hmmm?

Every1 should reply as follows-

Hi NPGMC,

If I send u back the items in question, items which over many years i've paid my hard earned cash 4. Will u compensate me with a share of whatever u gain back from WB?

A member

freakyfeet said:

well i've seen loads of episodes of columbo if that's any use...

boots are illegal - that bit's pretty easy. just being a member of prince's club maybe isn't a good enough reason to suspect u of owning illegal (stolen?) products, but posting a pic of ur collection is surely a bit of a giveaway?

"boots are illegal"
which warrants prince to 100% crack the shits about them.

the other stuff is a bit strange tho. would really love to know what this so called 'cause' is...

EvilWhiteMale said:

2 copies of everything actually ?!!!

freakyfeet said:

LOL

ally85 said:

The orginal theft, the manufacturing and the distribution maybe.

But owning them isn't.

I have over 600 unoffcial bootleg releases that cost me more than I want to mention. So Im suppose to just send them in and thats that? I will if he trades me for the car in the ride divine vid, its probably an even trade.

freakyfeet said:

ok. owning them may not be strictly illegal. but i also think its unfair to the artist. if they dont want that song out there, cant people respect that, regardless if its illegal or not?

suomynona said:

The japanese ones are dirt cheap, Ive seen Emancipation for under a dollar here.

Ok folks, chill out. A quick word to the wise about the business that is music.

First of all, the email from NPGMC was very poorly worded, lacking in explanation and a tad condescending. I concur with the above about Prince getting a decent manager again, or at least a NPGMC manager with a titter of wit and communication skills.

My reading of this, based on about 20 years in the music biz is that WB may have failed to submit returns for these specific releases on sales statements and in turn royalty payments; in effect inferring that they were never relesed. Thus to prove they were, Prince needs evidence.

They should explain the scenario, ask if anyone who has these recordings would be prepared to provide details of where they were obtained and when (if they can remember), a signed affidavit to that effect, and if some kind of re-imbursement is offered, would they be prepared to send them to Ohio, or wherever.

But CHEESUS what a way to ask for them!!

As for the bootlegs, well thats another matter, totally illegal but a waste of time even trying to enforce. "Crying after spilt milk" springs to mind.

Prince, relax about the boots man, fans are gonna buy your live releases no matter how many boots they have or are out there. The impact on your financial gains from this practice, albeit morally questionable and upsetting for an artist, is negligable and you could NEVER hope to make any major impact to deter it. All you would really be doing is persecuting real fans who enjoy hearing everything they can; YET STILL BUY THE OFFICIAL RELEASES. Casual record buyers dont buy, or have no clue where to buy bootlegs, and they make up the vast majority; so forget this insurmountable cruscade and concentrate on making records that those masses will once again wish to buy, OFFICIALLY.

Yours,

Maurice Jay

Cherry Moon Management

and yes P I will manage you if you ask nicely

ChristopherTracey967 said:

Well said

as to managing prince - you work for free then eh ?

Er, no thanks NPGMC. As tempting an offer as it is - I'd just love to spend more of my money on posting my music that I bought with my money, all the way from the UK to Minneapolis - I believe I'll pass. Thanks for the kind offer though!

I can however provide a very competitive price list, along with estimates of the costs of P&P. I accept all major credit cards.

Maybe he is just trying to get them all together to release them Officially through NPGMC on one BIG CD!


Somebody who has a large number of these should rip them all to MP3 somehow and burn them all to a CD and send it to them.

...Then put them all up on Kazzaa labeled really well so that people like me, who have none of them, can get them too!

I live not too far from this place... I should make a road trip to Vermilion! Just for shit's sake... is it possible that this message is a hoax from someone other than the club? I realize this is a stretch but Vermilion is about 40 miles straight west of Cleveland and there ain't shit there...?

Hello NPGMC,
Can I please keep my promo CDs and video's?

Regards,
Clown

Does anyone remember a bad trader from Vermillion Ohio? Is it possible that someone has the NPGMC trading list and is sending out this e-mail?

Dear Orgers,

I am undertaking a major study of the Little One's output and I need your help. I am looking for the following :

- The Work (all of Prince's circulating songs compiled chronologically)
- Studio Nights
- The 12" Collection (not sure of the title, but this is a collection of famous 12" that is absolutely essential to my study).
- Dream Factory (the latest version please -- it's very important that the data on which I base my findings be the best).
- Any recording of a live concert you may have, except One Nite Alone Live, which I have (though if you feel like sending your copy, I couldn't stop you).
- If you have extra copies of Sign O the Times, Parade, ATWIAD, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind and Controversy, you may also send them to me -- the ones I have are a little scratched.


Please contact me by Orgnote for my shipping address.

Many thanks for doing your bit for the advancement of musicology!

Is Prince serious?

The guy hasnt visited my country in over a decade...and that was the only time he came here...

I have official and unofficial recordings.. they are all i have.. and he wants them???

Does he really think he can rid the world of his bootlegs... i mean come on ... seriously...

You know those photo's of Michael Jackson in the sleeping chamber ... there is a rumor that he got someone to take a photo of that for publicity...

How the hell did sooo many unreleased Prince trax make it out to the public when he is such a private guy otherwise... makes U wonder??

Ill continue to dance on and errr... after all the money ive spent on making him rich... and not even getting a concert for my efforts... he wants me to pay international shipping for this... pffffft dream on!
[This message was edited Thu Jul 24 4:09:11 PDT 2003 by MamaLisa]

Go to the chat now and there is a clarification of this story.

i don't post here no more but this thing is the occasion to stop a misinterpretation.

A moderator told me 1 CD is enough it is just to show signs of efforts because those singles were released illegally even after a first request from Prince's staff that was unheard of.

Now the deal is over with Warner some are still released!!!

Also this mail was a test to check the reaction of the fans. NPGMC got many requests asking for CDs that don't excist, release the vaault etc... and they reversed the requests to check our own reaction which i think is pretty clever because NPGMC operators are not Prince and hey cannot take any decision to release the vault etc...

Anybody understands now?

I JUST SENT MY STUFF THIS MORNING. THE SHITY PART IS THAT I HAD 2 WAKE UP SO EARLY B4 WORK...WOW...WOW...

mmmhhh...,

maybe prince wants 2 decorate his new house in canada with my stuff

NO WAY !!!

unless he comes in person with his car, i would give him my collection.

dear prince, please come 2 germany and visit me if u want my boots

"i was dreaming if i wrote this, so 4give..."

lg

tafkaf

klaatu said:

Test? How are the fans going to know they need not send their copy, since they need just one?

Prince should move on. Enough of that obsession about getting robbed by Warner or bootleggers. Put out some good new stuff, and this time control it all. That would be the best revenge, not scratching the booboo for years and years.

In any case, if Prince wanted to know his fans' reaction, he's got it. They think this whole thing is weird and a waste of his time.

Aerogram said:

A PP moderator told meto tell you so on the chat to clarify this thing.

If one CD is sent by fans well that could help prince egt the masters back and have all the songs we so much dreamed about released!

klaatu said:

And how will fans know someone already sent a copy?

Wonder what the BBB will think of this one?

Anyone got the number handy? (hehhe LOL)

Prince ain't using Mayte or any of his other women,Is he gonna send them our way? Hell no!

What is Warner's take on all of this?

Once this is done, will NPGMC send out another e-mail saying fams passed or failed a test? "The Ways of the Pharaoh" sounds interesting, like it's a test.