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Thread started 06/16/03 5:04pm

billysparxxx

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TUPAC imitated PRINCE in childhood games.

This appears on Hip Hop web page allhiphop.com http://www.allhiphop.com/...al/?ID=124
It's told from one his Pac's cousin Jamilah Barnes:

"The Tupac Shakur that I knew was a family member, a cousin to be specific. He wasn’t a rapper, actor, gangsta or dancer – just the creative cousin of the family.

Some of my earliest memories of ‘Pac are of me staying the night on Greenmount Avenue in Baltimore, where he lived. In 1985, him and my older brother Kenny would hammer nails through sheets in the wall and make in-house tents during those simpler days.

They would draw spaceship windows on the wall and pretend it was their craft that soared the skyways. They would bang one side into the wall and then tuck the other side under one of their beds to create the rocket ship effect. I don’t know exactly where their imaginations took them, because neither Pac nor my brother would let me onboard their adventure since I (and some of my other relatives) was too young. Nevertheless, I was privy to be a member of their exclusive band.

I was a drummer, dancer, singer in the “Prince & The Revolution Band”…I was permitted to be everything BUT the lead. Our theme song was “1999,” a Prince song that crooned “I’m gonna party ‘til its 1999.” It was a lot of fun for all of us, but for Tupac, it was hard labor. He worked hard to “book” our shows, he would get mad if we missed our cues and nobody else could take that coveted lead. If we messed up, he would kick us out of the group. You could get your spot right back, because he didn’t have any replacements to fill in the band. It was fun though…

We were just cast members in his performance and we just didn’t know at the time. I didn’t know how serious it was for Pac until Set, his sister, later told me a funny story. She told me she once asked him angrily, “Why do you always get to be the lead (Prince)?” And, Pac furiously retorted, “Are you out here booking the gigs? Are you out here getting us work? I’m working hard for his group and that’s why I get to be the lead.” Set just gave up, but they had a serious argument. Now, understand, this was all fiction, since the name of the group was “Prince & The Revolution,” and it was a complete imitation of the real life act from Minneapolis. We only performed in the living room, but that’s when I realized that it wasn’t all fun and games. His destiny was in motion.

[That's pretty funny! I dig it. -Ben]
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Reply #1 posted 06/17/03 3:23pm

Neversin

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billysparxxx said:

*snipped crap 2Pac story*

How is this shit, some lame story about some dead crap rapper, considered as Prince news??

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Reply #2 posted 06/17/03 4:07pm

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Neversin said:

How is this shit, some lame story about some dead crap rapper, considered as Prince news??

Because it mentions Prince heavily, and is entertaining to me. And I edit the news smile So nyaahhh!
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Reply #3 posted 06/17/03 4:17pm

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Billy!!! Where you been man? I've missed you, welcome back! hug Cool story too. biggrin
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #4 posted 06/17/03 5:55pm

makavelli187

Some dead crap rapper? U obviously know nothing about music, oh wait, your from the "Nederlands", ok, that explains it, not much over there. If you kids know nothing about music, don't speak about it.
[This message was edited Tue Jun 17 17:55:46 PDT 2003 by makavelli187]
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Reply #5 posted 06/18/03 1:28am

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makavelli187 said:

Some dead crap rapper? U obviously know nothing about music, oh wait, your from the "Nederlands", ok, that explains it, not much over there. If you kids know nothing about music, don't speak about it.
[This message was edited Tue Jun 17 17:55:46 PDT 2003 by makavelli187]


It is more obvious that you are making assumptions without the factual
knowledge to back it. 2 Pac has been a major influence in the hip-hop
community, and that includes European countries like the Netherlands.

Neversin was merely stating his personal opinion.
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Reply #6 posted 06/18/03 3:01am

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"The Tupac Shakur that I knew was a family member, a cousin to be specific. He wasn’t a rapper, actor, gangsta or dancer – just the creative cousin of the family.

No shit? His whole "gangsta" image was nothing more than what Dr. Dre has been doing for years or what Dennis Rodman did. An act. Look back at the old Digital Underground albums. The guy was a joke then and even after he was made into a "gangsta" rapper by some corporate exec in a suit, he was even more of a joke.


makavelli187 said:

Some dead crap rapper? U obviously know nothing about music, oh wait, your from the "Nederlands", ok, that explains it, not much over there. If you kids know nothing about music, don't speak about it.


Yea, cant deny his influence over all the whites that think they are down with "real" hip hop. His influence was there. His talent was not. He is a "dead crap rapper". Just an overrated, dead crap rapper.
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Reply #7 posted 06/18/03 5:29am

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makavelli187 said:

Some dead crap rapper? U obviously know nothing about music, oh wait, your from the "Nederlands", ok, that explains it, not much over there.

I seem to have hurt your faggy feelings, but my opinion stays the same...
I listen to REAL Hip-Hop and Rap not these fags like 2Pac or dicks like Dr. Dre, who created the commercial Hip-POP and cRap everybody's so high about...
And "Nederlands"?? Don't start something you can't finish boy, you'll only show that you're some dumb American dude who probably thinks "Nederlands" is the capital of Amsterdam or say some other dumb shit and shame your American peers...

If you kids know nothing about music, don't speak about it.

Hey, you're the one listening to crap rap so don't lecture me about music, kiddo...
Now go away and rub one off on your Nelly and Ja Rule collection...

Neversin.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 5:35:26 PDT 2003 by Neversin]
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Reply #8 posted 06/18/03 7:36am

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Neversin said:

makavelli187 said:

Some dead crap rapper? U obviously know nothing about music, oh wait, your from the "Nederlands", ok, that explains it, not much over there.

I seem to have hurt your faggy feelings, but my opinion stays the same...
I listen to REAL Hip-Hop and Rap not these fags like 2Pac or dicks like Dr. Dre, who created the commercial Hip-POP and cRap everybody's so high about...
And "Nederlands"?? Don't start something you can't finish boy, you'll only show that you're some dumb American dude who probably thinks "Nederlands" is the capital of Amsterdam or say some other dumb shit and shame your American peers...

If you kids know nothing about music, don't speak about it.

Hey, you're the one listening to crap rap so don't lecture me about music, kiddo...
Now go away and rub one off on your Nelly and Ja Rule collection...

Neversin.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 5:35:26 PDT 2003 by Neversin]


well, regardless of what you think of tupac's music, his image was not completely fabricated. he represented a paradox in many ways. very intelligent and understood a lot of issues that plague society (in particular issues affecting the african american community). his mother and father i believe were part of the black panthers. at the same time, he was constantly falling into many of the traps that he rapped about. incidently, oakland is not some joke of a place. i would not say he was a gangsta, but he wasn't a punk either.

you say dr. dre is not real hip-hop? dre is a pioneer. even if he is not cutting edge at this time, dre has made a great deal of strong contributions to hip-hop. when n.w.a. first came out, they were saying something that represented the feelings and experiences of many african american males. plus, they did it over production that was unique to hip-hop at the time. hell, a lot of that stuff still stands out amongst current music. he also introduced snoop and eminem who are still regarded as top lyricists in the game. even if you don't agree, a majority of artists and fans would disagree with you. even the ones you do like would probably not deny that impact that tupac and dre have had. the problem is balance. a lot of groups do not get their chance to shine because they do not fit a certain image. but that is not necessarily the fault of those that are being recognized in the spotlight.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 7:39:38 PDT 2003 by dealodelandron]
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Reply #9 posted 06/18/03 7:05pm

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dealodelandron said:

Neversin said:

makavelli187 said:

Some dead crap rapper? U obviously know nothing about music, oh wait, your from the "Nederlands", ok, that explains it, not much over there.

I seem to have hurt your faggy feelings, but my opinion stays the same...
I listen to REAL Hip-Hop and Rap not these fags like 2Pac or dicks like Dr. Dre, who created the commercial Hip-POP and cRap everybody's so high about...
And "Nederlands"?? Don't start something you can't finish boy, you'll only show that you're some dumb American dude who probably thinks "Nederlands" is the capital of Amsterdam or say some other dumb shit and shame your American peers...

If you kids know nothing about music, don't speak about it.

Hey, you're the one listening to crap rap so don't lecture me about music, kiddo...
Now go away and rub one off on your Nelly and Ja Rule collection...

Neversin.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 5:35:26 PDT 2003 by Neversin]


well, regardless of what you think of tupac's music, his image was not completely fabricated. he represented a paradox in many ways. very intelligent and understood a lot of issues that plague society (in particular issues affecting the african american community). his mother and father i believe were part of the black panthers. at the same time, he was constantly falling into many of the traps that he rapped about. incidently, oakland is not some joke of a place. i would not say he was a gangsta, but he wasn't a punk either.

you say dr. dre is not real hip-hop? dre is a pioneer. even if he is not cutting edge at this time, dre has made a great deal of strong contributions to hip-hop. when n.w.a. first came out, they were saying something that represented the feelings and experiences of many african american males. plus, they did it over production that was unique to hip-hop at the time. hell, a lot of that stuff still stands out amongst current music. he also introduced snoop and eminem who are still regarded as top lyricists in the game. even if you don't agree, a majority of artists and fans would disagree with you. even the ones you do like would probably not deny that impact that tupac and dre have had. the problem is balance. a lot of groups do not get their chance to shine because they do not fit a certain image. but that is not necessarily the fault of those that are being recognized in the spotlight.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 18 7:39:38 PDT 2003 by dealodelandron]


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Reply #10 posted 06/19/03 7:29pm

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Reply #11 posted 06/20/03 10:36am

makavelli187

Faggy feelings?? LOL! There is a good comeback. What an idiot. If you know so much about hip hop, who do you think are pioneers??

Oh let me guess, someone like you would pick Vanilla Ice, 3rd Bass or MC Young. And yes, I am a dumb American. LOL!!! What an idiot.
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