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july

Minneapolis Star Tribune Book Review By Jon Bream: 'Possessed: The Rise and Fall of Prince'

'Possessed: The Rise and Fall of Prince'
Jon Bream, Star Tribune http://www.startribune.co...09887.html
Published April 9, 2003

From Prince's legal adversary to his biographer. That's the leap that Alex Hahn is trying to make.

The Boston lawyer's claim to fame is that he successfully defended Uptown, the respected Prince fanzine, in a 1999 lawsuit brought by the Purple One. He handled that case pro bono for the Sweden-based magazine, which is still publishing. Now he's looking for his payday with "Possessed: The Rise and Fall of Prince."

The book reads like an in-depth fanzine written by a voracious researcher/fan: Lots of facts (most of them previously reported, some new, including Prince being hospitalized at Fairview Southdale in April 1996 for heart palpitations and vomiting); lots of gossip (including women Prince bedded, according to "a knowledgable source," Hahn writes) and tabloid-like coverage of the death of Prince's deformed baby in October 1996.

Hahn interviewed several key figures in Prince's life and career, including former managers Bob Cavallo and Arnold Stiefel; former band members Dez Dickerson, Matt Fink and Rosie Gaines; publicists Howard Bloom and Bob Merlis, and road manager and Paisley Park executive Alan Leeds.

Hahn also relied heavily on interviews conducted by others, chiefly Per Nilsen, Uptown contributor and author of the 1999 book "DanceMusicSexRomance: Prince, the First Decade." (Nilsen is credited with interviewing 30 sources, Hahn with 19.) In his introduction, Hahn cited Nilsen's book and my 1984 biography, "Prince: Inside the Purple Reign," as sources. Hahn never contacted me.

In the first noteworthy Prince book by a U.S. author in two decades, the Boston lawyer/writer also lists people who turned down his interview requests, including Vanity, Wendy Melvoin, Lisa Coleman, Sheila E., Morris Day and Madonna. Apparently, he did not seek an interview with Prince.

"Possessed" does not offer a serious analysis of Prince's art. Rather, this book chronicles the ups and downs of his career, with plenty of pseudo-psychoanalysis of the shortcomings that eventually toppled him from the top of the pops. Hahn portrays Prince as a self-indulgent, obsessive, demanding, capricious, promiscuous, uncaring, petulant, spoiled brat/genius/workaholic.

This is not a Kirby Puckett-type situation where the public and private images don't jibe. Prince-ophiles have known of these dubious qualities. It's just that no book author has gone where lawyer Hahn has: printing the rumors and whispers.

With all his digging, Hahn tells us that a trip on the drug Ecstasy is what prompted Prince's short-notice cancellation of the release of "The Black Album" in 1987.

The author's unnamed sources suggest that Prince's use of the prescription painkiller Percodan contributed to his erratic behavior circa 2000.

"Possessed" too often seems secondhand and gossipy. Reading it, you wonder if Hahn has ever seen Prince in concert. Could he see the purple through the pain?
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Reply #1 posted 04/09/03 3:16pm

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In regaurds to the hospital stay part of this thread... my mother's friend who is a dietician said that Prince had a stay at the hospital she works at here in central Cali. It turns out that he suffers from hepetitas C. She told my mom that she has to let every patient know what to eat the get them back to good health. She came across Prince's name and thought she had to see for her-self if it was him. She went on to say that he had security out side his door and they wouldn't let her in. She demanded that she speak with him cuz it was her job to visit every patient. They let her in and she said he was small, big head, no make-up and all lips! Not to mention the fact that he was sleeping so she never got to speak with him. The trippy thing about it was that this took place around the time this thread mentions his hospital stay. Only it was right before he announced his Jam of the Year world tour. I remember that press conference also. He was like out of it! He even had shades on which he always wears, but there was one or two times someone to the side of him had to remind him what to say. This was days after his stay in central Cali. My mom's friend said that they moved him to a hospital closer to home and that the only reason he was here in cental Cali was cuz they wanted to keep it on the down low. I dont know. By the way, it was in Visalia, Ca., 40 miles south of Fresno, Ca.
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Reply #2 posted 04/09/03 4:26pm

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OMG -- Prince had Hepatitis C? Poor guy! ~going onto the internet do some research ~.
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Reply #3 posted 04/09/03 4:34pm

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Just did a search on Yahoo for Hepatitis C, there is a TON of information about it out there! omg For instance:

How could a person have gotten hepatitis C?

HCV is spread primarily by direct contact with human blood. For example, you may have gotten infected with HCV if:

you ever injected street drugs, as the needles and/or other drug "works" used to prepare or inject the drug(s) may have had someone else's blood that contained HCV on them.
you received blood, blood products, or solid organs from a donor whose blood contained HCV.
you were ever on long-term kidney dialysis as you may have unknowingly shared supplies/equipment that had someone else's blood on them.
you were ever a healthcare worker and had frequent contact with blood on the job, especially accidental needlesticks.
your mother had hepatitis C at the time she gave birth to you. During the birth her blood may have gotten into your body.
you ever had sex with a person infected with HCV.
you lived with someone who was infected with HCV and shared items such as razors or toothbrushes that might have had his/her blood on them.

What's even scarier is that I learned that 80% of people who are infected with Hepatitis C have NO symptoms. At least Prince got the problem under control.

omfg Make you wonder how Prince contracted the disease. confuse And please don't say that Prince got it from Mayte, or I'll have to find out where you live, come over, and bitch-slap some sense into you. lol
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Reply #4 posted 04/09/03 5:12pm

july

"Possessed" does not offer a serious analysis of Prince's art. Rather, this book chronicles the ups and downs of his career, with plenty of pseudo-psychoanalysis of the shortcomings that eventually toppled him from the top of the pops. Hahn portrays Prince as a self-indulgent, obsessive, demanding, capricious, promiscuous, uncaring, petulant, spoiled brat/genius/workaholic.


Actually that is how the media has portrayed Prince most of the time. But this time the author Alex Hahn may indeed have an axe to grind, and if the title of the book alone does not key you in, as towards it's contents. Then most undoubtedly the authors name will or should. If you know anything about the Prince Vs Uptown Magazine lawsuit. I think everyone should read it and judge for themselves... It's obvious that it was written by the lawyer who was representing the fanzine Uptown Magazine after Prince sued them. So it was written under those conditons and after the fact... It's a book take it or leave it. smile... I got an email from amazon.com the other day... The book should arrive this week or next week... Hope it is fair and complete. Actually i just bought it for the pictures... lol! I hope to read it at some point. lol! smile... To some fans just knowing the book is about Prince is enough, as they want more and more insight into the closed door side of Prince the man. Will Prince ever write his own book? Only Prince knows for sure. I feel these types of books do not do anything to harm Prince's status as a legendary musican, or him personally, but actually just reveal a living, breathing, freeminded spirit. Who is all so human, and he is... as are we all... smile... 8) wink
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Reply #5 posted 04/09/03 7:42pm

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psychodelicide: "Make you wonder how Prince contracted the disease. And please don't say that Prince got it from Mayte, or I'll have to find out where you live, come over, and bitch-slap some sense into you."

why would you be so judgemental and weird about this? all he had to do is sleep with one chick who has it, and he could get it from that. the fella's pretty endowed, we've all kinda seen that i think, so maybe there'd be some minor bleeding, which would make transmission much more likely.

it's no secret that prince has had a very diverse and abundant selection of delicacies from the female species...i don't think most of us would be here if his raw sexuality didn't appeal to us.

but then you hear an unconfirmed rumor that he has hepatitis c and you think he must've been slamming heroin into his jugular or something. and it's much more likely that he would give mayte something than the other way around. this is a subject i'd LOVE to discuss with him personally...on songs like "props and pounds" he says "safe sex campaign, touted by the gun - with Con as the prefix, suffix be the dumb, what's in the trojan horse lubrication..."

anyway, just sayin'...
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #6 posted 04/10/03 12:38am

TonyC

Whatever happened to patient/doctor confidentiality? Anyway, the whole Hep-C story sounds suspect for a number of reasons. There's no way to tell if it is true, or not but it just rings false.
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Reply #7 posted 04/10/03 12:46am

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For those that simply rushed off to find out about Hep C GET A LIFE YOU SAD SAD people, when it gets to a point where anyone can post any old rubbish about Prince and you guys think you go off researching something that "possibly" is a load of bullshit then I would question your healthy obsession with Prince.

Why do obsessed Prince fams make me feel sick, am I the only one that feels this way?
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Reply #8 posted 04/10/03 1:14am

NME

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Why do obsessed Prince fams make me feel sick, am I the only one that feels this way?


NO. i feel the same. i use this site to find out if there's any new releases rumoured. NOT to freakin discuss his hair gel or call my self 'the rainbow child'. the only character here who's value for money is "gainsbrough" - he is hillarious!!!
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Reply #9 posted 04/10/03 5:39am

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starbass said:

For those that simply rushed off to find out about Hep C GET A LIFE YOU SAD SAD people, when it gets to a point where anyone can post any old rubbish about Prince and you guys think you go off researching something that "possibly" is a load of bullshit then I would question your healthy obsession with Prince.

Why do obsessed Prince fams make me feel sick, am I the only one that feels this way?

:LOL:
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #10 posted 04/10/03 8:20am

psychodelicide

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theblueangel said:

psychodelicide: "Make you wonder how Prince contracted the disease. And please don't say that Prince got it from Mayte, or I'll have to find out where you live, come over, and bitch-slap some sense into you."

why would you be so judgemental and weird about this? all he had to do is sleep with one chick who has it, and he could get it from that. the fella's pretty endowed, we've all kinda seen that i think, so maybe there'd be some minor bleeding, which would make transmission much more likely.

it's no secret that prince has had a very diverse and abundant selection of delicacies from the female species...i don't think most of us would be here if his raw sexuality didn't appeal to us.

but then you hear an unconfirmed rumor that he has hepatitis c and you think he must've been slamming heroin into his jugular or something. and it's much more likely that he would give mayte something than the other way around. this is a subject i'd LOVE to discuss with him personally...on songs like "props and pounds" he says "safe sex campaign, touted by the gun - with Con as the prefix, suffix be the dumb, what's in the trojan horse lubrication..."

anyway, just sayin'...


I'm not "being judgemental and weird about this", I'm just saying what I said because I know how SOME of you people on the org are; you read a story without knowing all the facts and then you post your opinion like you know all the details when you don't. I'm not directing this comment at you personally, blueangel, but I have been around enough on the org to know that that's how some people are. Also, I made this remark in a kidding manner, hence the laughing emoticon after my last sentence.

I don't really give a hoot about how Prince lives his life, that's his business. People who know me on the org know that I am not judgemental, but very honest and factual, which was what I was being in my original post. Hopefully that will clear up any misunderstanding. smile
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Reply #11 posted 04/10/03 9:38am

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klick2me said:

In regaurds to the hospital stay part of this thread... my mother's friend who is a dietician said that Prince had a stay at the hospital she works at here in central Cali. It turns out that he suffers from hepetitas C. Klick2me


Something about the fact that you felt the need to share this bothers me. Maybe it's the fact that, whether true or not, it is not your business to share. And shame on your mother's friend, who as a professional in the medical field should know better than to share such information with you or anyone else for that matter.

The org is grounds for lots of false and gossipy information, but really, there needs to be some boundaries.
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Reply #12 posted 04/10/03 2:11pm

SonnySixkiller

Erratic behavior around 2000? Such as?
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Reply #13 posted 04/10/03 2:34pm

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dickiepotter said:

klick2me said:

In regaurds to the hospital stay part of this thread... my mother's friend who is a dietician said that Prince had a stay at the hospital she works at here in central Cali. It turns out that he suffers from hepetitas C. Klick2me


Something about the fact that you felt the need to share this bothers me. Maybe it's the fact that, whether true or not, it is not your business to share. And shame on your mother's friend, who as a professional in the medical field should know better than to share such information with you or anyone else for that matter.

The org is grounds for lots of false and gossipy information, but really, there needs to be some boundaries.


Amen, dickie!

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Reply #14 posted 04/10/03 3:56pm

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I was going to buy this book, but now I'm not so sure.
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Reply #15 posted 04/10/03 5:37pm

july

I got the book today and read most of it. The book went into the Anna Fantastic situation, but not all that much. Actually alot is missing from the book. But the overall feel of this book is to make Prince look as moody as possible. batting eyes mushy lol! lol Which he is, wink as is his right. It's a clean book and not as negative as i thought it would be. It attempts to piece together Prince the man against the common Prince persona. All i can tell them. The ones digging so hard. He's male. He is human. He makes music for the true spirit of expression and has the right to make mistakes, change his mindset and his discussions, as he sees them. Just as anyone would hope to have those rights also. Prince is Prince... dancing jig Think about it... smile... wink 8)
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Reply #16 posted 04/10/03 7:25pm

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Yes, I am wrong for sharing this info and the dietician is wrong also. But, he is a celeb and not that he is open game, but c'mon, when one comes across somthing like this, can u really expect them to just stay quite? I dunno. I have held this info for many years now and all it is is just an illness. If he really believes in God like he says he does and stands on God's word then all is cool. Besides, aint nothing stoppin him!!! Sorry if I have pissed anyone off with this info but it is juicy, aint it? C'mon, admit it. All I know is that Im not lying and this lady is an older lady. Why would she lie? Goodness!
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Reply #17 posted 04/11/03 3:47am

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klick2me said:

Yes, I am wrong for sharing this info and the dietician is wrong also. But, he is a celeb and not that he is open game, but c'mon, when one comes across somthing like this, can u really expect them to just stay quite? I dunno. I have held this info for many years now and all it is is just an illness. If he really believes in God like he says he does and stands on God's word then all is cool. Besides, aint nothing stoppin him!!! Sorry if I have pissed anyone off with this info but it is juicy, aint it? C'mon, admit it. All I know is that Im not lying and this lady is an older lady. Why would she lie? Goodness!
Klick2me


Gossip is gossip... Whether you know something about Prince or some other celeb, it's your responsibility to ponder the ethics of revealing something that personal. Personally, I'd never do it. Think about it... is there something about you that you prefer people not to know? Is it ok if I can come here and say "Whoa... so he's got Hep C... you've got AIDS, don't you?" After all, you are sort of a public figure in your own small way on this site, and you made a comment about someone's illness that I could rationalize in such a way I think it's relevant to reveal your deepest secret.

Yet at the end of the day, I would only have let myself down by taking a big chunk of your privacy away, just for the thrill of showing what I know. Fortunately, you most probably don't have AIDS and I most certainly don't need to "showcase" my "knowledge" that way. I only hope Prince really does not have this terrible disease and that tattle tale of a dietician is not as unprofessional as I think she is.

It's a cheap shot. I try not to read any gossip about people, especially those who are still living. Which is why I don't think I'll read Possessed.
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Reply #18 posted 04/11/03 9:24am

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klick2me said:

Yes, I am wrong for sharing this info and the dietician is wrong also. But, he is a celeb and not that he is open game, but c'mon, when one comes across somthing like this, can u really expect them to just stay quite? I dunno. I have held this info for many years now and all it is is just an illness. If he really believes in God like he says he does and stands on God's word then all is cool. Besides, aint nothing stoppin him!!! Sorry if I have pissed anyone off with this info but it is juicy, aint it? C'mon, admit it. All I know is that Im not lying and this lady is an older lady. Why would she lie? Goodness!
Klick2me



your mom's friend deserves to lose her job for that shit.

there is NOTHING okay about violating the law pertaining to doctor/patient confidentiality

i can't believe you proudly posted this crap. hope someone in the prince camp follows this up and files charges against the hospital
[This message was edited Fri Apr 11 9:27:56 PDT 2003 by XxAxX]
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Reply #19 posted 04/11/03 4:10pm

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XxAxX said:

klick2me said:

Yes, I am wrong for sharing this info and the dietician is wrong also. But, he is a celeb and not that he is open game, but c'mon, when one comes across somthing like this, can u really expect them to just stay quite? I dunno. I have held this info for many years now and all it is is just an illness. If he really believes in God like he says he does and stands on God's word then all is cool. Besides, aint nothing stoppin him!!! Sorry if I have pissed anyone off with this info but it is juicy, aint it? C'mon, admit it. All I know is that Im not lying and this lady is an older lady. Why would she lie? Goodness!
Klick2me



your mom's friend deserves to lose her job for that shit.

there is NOTHING okay about violating the law pertaining to doctor/patient confidentiality

i can't believe you proudly posted this crap. hope someone in the prince camp follows this up and files charges against the hospital
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I agree. The friend is a asshole. I have been deathly ill and I cannot imagin being sick and worried about the whole world knowing about it.

I hope Prince sues the hell of the publisher of this book.
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Reply #20 posted 04/13/03 8:44am

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dickiepotter said:

klick2me said:

In regaurds to the hospital stay part of this thread... my mother's friend who is a dietician said that Prince had a stay at the hospital she works at here in central Cali. It turns out that he suffers from hepetitas C. Klick2me


Something about the fact that you felt the need to share this bothers me. Maybe it's the fact that, whether true or not, it is not your business to share. And shame on your mother's friend, who as a professional in the medical field should know better than to share such information with you or anyone else for that matter.

The org is grounds for lots of false and gossipy information, but really, there needs to be some boundaries.
Being a healthcare professional, the new HIPAA law which goes in affect April 14, 2003. Will allevite leaking out patient confidetiality...Alex Hahn, have some respect!!!
u & me, we got mad chemisty
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Reply #21 posted 04/13/03 8:48am

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dickiepotter said:

klick2me said:

In regaurds to the hospital stay part of this thread... my mother's friend who is a dietician said that Prince had a stay at the hospital she works at here in central Cali. It turns out that he suffers from hepetitas C. Klick2me


Something about the fact that you felt the need to share this bothers me. Maybe it's the fact that, whether true or not, it is not your business to share. And shame on your mother's friend, who as a professional in the medical field should know better than to share such information with you or anyone else for that matter.

The org is grounds for lots of false and gossipy information, but really, there needs to be some boundaries.
Being a healthcare professional, the new HIPAA law which goes in affect April 14, 2003. Will allevite leaking out patient confidetiality...Alex Hahn, have some respect!!!
Alleviate, I now there are some spell/edit police on the org.
u & me, we got mad chemisty
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Reply #22 posted 04/13/03 12:45pm

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klick2me said:

In regaurds to the hospital stay part of this thread... my mother's friend who is a dietician said that Prince had a stay at the hospital she works at here in central Cali. It turns out that he suffers from hepetitas C.


Does your mother's friend realize how much of a violation of patient confidentiality this is?!!! Does she realize she can lose her job over these statements?! Regardless of the veracity, the fact that she stated Prince was even in the hospital is grounds for dismissal and grounds for a lawsuit!

*TSK TSK*
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Reply #23 posted 04/13/03 12:51pm

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klick2me said:

Yes, I am wrong for sharing this info and the dietician is wrong also. But, he is a celeb and not that he is open game, but c'mon, when one comes across somthing like this, can u really expect them to just stay quite?


YES, I do expect them to stay quiet. I have done so in regards to high profile patients where I've worked! This is about being a professional and adhering to the law. There is NO excuse EVER for disregarding patient confidentiality in the manner that this woman has done.
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Reply #24 posted 04/13/03 11:57pm

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I can't believe some people. disbelief

Of course none of this would give the fanatics a clue as to why Prince is such a private person when it comes to his personal life.

Unfortunately some people don't have a conscience to be ashamed, regardless of whether it's true or not.

Appalling, just appalling.


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This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #25 posted 04/14/03 7:39am

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First off, I'm sceptical aboout 99% of the rumours I hear about celebs (and I'm sorry klick2me, I don't know you, or anything about you, so I have to take it as rumour. In fact, I know nothing of your sources, so I have to take anything like that with a grain of salt).

Hepatitis B and C are two of the most commonly spread diseases around. Sure, its possible Prince has it. Millions of people do, and don't realise it. My best friend is a PA, and he sees Hepatitis cases constantly. It is far more easily transmitted that AIDS or other STDs. One patient of my friend contracted it from snorting cocaine only once(many coke users have sores in their nasal cavities. The blood from the sores gets on the straw, and then the next user has that blood absorbed by the mucus membranes in their nose). It is useless to speculate on how Prince could have gotten it, because (A) we don't know if he even has it, and (B) he ain't talkin'! Besides, how does any of this hearsay change your opinion of Prince, or his music? If it does, then you are entirely too wrapped up in the life of someone you don't even know.

The same can be said of books like Hahn's. I'm not saying that it doesn't contain factual information, just that said information should be taken with a grain of salt. I like to read biographies of musicians as well, since it gives some insight into their creative mindset. That doesn't mean that I believe every word that is printed. Use the mind God gave you, and take it for what it is.
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Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #26 posted 04/14/03 5:36pm

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JUST A THOUGHT IN REGARDS TO THE HEPATITUS C THING

Didn't PAM ANDERSON Accuse TOMMY LEE of giving Pam Anderson Hepatitis C?

Maybe MAYTE was involved with Tommy Lee while she was married to PRINCE and transferred the Hepatitis to Prince….

(If any of this gossip be true……Gossip be damned!!!)
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Reply #27 posted 04/14/03 5:50pm

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Im trippin. Ain't no one complaining about what this book reveales in regaurds to his hospital stay!
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