Holy shit, look at the travesties on this fuckin' list!!...

Kurt Cobain, at #10, is listed higher for his contributions, impact, and influence on rock than:

The Beach Boys(#20)
Davie Bowie(#36)
Sly & the Family Stone(#44)
Led Zeppelin(#55)
The Sex Pistols!!!(#58 )
Marvin Gaye(#68 )
George-fuckin-Clinton!!(#92--SHOW me how Cobain's influence just eclipse's Clinton's...)


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[This message was edited Mon Mar 18 9:40:26 PST 2002 by wellbeyond]

my bad
[This message was edited Mon Mar 18 9:47:19 PST 2002 by bigdprod]

Who decided this stupid list? Any and all interested in an explaination of how stupid this list is should read all of WELLBEYONDS posts,he has it in a nutshell. And KellyAnne....if u hate Prince so much , why do u come 2 the ORG day after day???? Seems like ur not getting enuff attention in ur everyday life so ya wanna irritate folks here. Cute pic Kelly, but ur an ugly-ness shows from the inside out. Posivity-YES!Have u had ur plus+sign 2day?

kellyannemcclure said:

What a bitch! I'm glad I don't personally know anyone like you! I wouldn't wish for the death of anyone, not even Hitler if he was still alive! I think you must be really stupid to be talking like this about another person!

You are an ignorant piece of shit.


this actually shows dumbass's ignorance.


furthemore, we're not talking truth here, were talking about being judged by a majority of people. what makes your statement true, that only a few thousand people agree with it. your argument is facetious. you defend your point for the very same reasons that you criticize mine. use some fucking sense, and you would have realized not to challenge the awesone power of the dumbass. in the immortal words of Apu; thank you, come again.[/quote]

My opinion is merely my opinion. But I would have thought among other folks whom I presume all that are sharing their opinion have listened at least to all of the released music by this artist. My opinion is this, the music that Prince is putting out these days is better, on average, than what he produced in the 80's. Some of HIS BEST WORK has been created in the past 12 years. The symbol album, The Gold Experience, Emancipation, these are excellent complete albums. I like TRC very much. Prince turned his world on the Pop scene years ago. In fact he has crafted a career to moreso take himself out of the top ten lists than to get himself into them. The dood hit it big then retreated to his "fortress of solitude". if you remember the vibe he put out as far back as Around The World In A Day, he was thumbing his nose to the entire pop music world.

Dumbass..... you try to speak as though you have some 'GREATER UNDERSTANDING'. You come across as quite shallow to me. Just my opinion.

wellbeyond said:

Well said,

IMO Nirvan comes in behind Pearl Jam and even Soundgarden in the seattle sound.

Did either of those two bands rank?

Your comments on JB and Jimi Hendrix are right on just as well.

ALL I can say is: "it figures!"
They probably got their info from MTV or something!!
WHATEVA - We all know he is worthy of much more than #50!!

Sup and aaawwwwhhhh! to everybody...

>again fam why the hell we need to be worried about what these commericalized industry insiders say...who stroke each other if u obey the master...and of course whoever is at the top of the list has stroked the master most...basically been a yes'sah boss types...In my opinion P has just played the game, got a few bruises along the way, but still retained some sense of what he sees fit to do with his art. So why get all trippy about where they put P on "their" list...come on fam...we know P is #1 on our list...aaaiiight then...and as always love life and lovesexy....

SexyMutaphuca

yes, i second what the above poster to eloquently stated.

but seriously... i just dont get why people get soo freaked out by these polls. i respect the choices and the order they were given. not that i agree with em.....

your opinion is the only one that matters....just like the collective opinions from life were all that mattered when they made the list...post your own damn list if u disagree. or listen to a prince album if thats all you care about.

Vh1's top100 of all time saw him at #18. Pretty Good! And it was voted on by the artists themselves. I'm sure there are some lists that have him much lower than the 50 spot given by Life.
Either way, when it comes down to it, these types of lists are always arguable(so have fun). Actually, given his current state of popularity I'm impressed he actually made it on the list that high.
Anyway, whoever is offended by this list because P's not high enough, consider this quote from the article.

"And it's safe to say that no two Top 100s are alike. The fun is in the fighting. What do you mean Jimi's not No. 1?"

And from the mouth of the immortal Homer J. Simpson,
"Yeah, but whaddaya gonna do?"

Uh, wellbeyondthechanceofevergettingaclue, why would James Brown be in the top 5 rock and rollers of all time? He was all about funk, was he not?

kisscamille said:

I only wish to "shit disturb?" Sorry, but my shit comes wrapped in a little blue ribbon. If Prince's music means anything more to you than a batch of decent songs, you're in trouble with or without me.

littleman said:

Lighten up, pipsqueak. Learn to relax just a bit & you might see that I might not have meant that to be taken entirely seriously.

kellyannemcclure said:

Sorry, kellyanne...but Life listed James Brown at #4...so once again, your philosophy of "talk first, think never" lifts you to a new height of stupidity...

Life magazine prefaced their list by stating "No two lists are alike . . . " and their list includes artists from every genre of music, so top 100 Rock n Rollers is used very loosely. Their order, however, is quite laughable considering its coming from the "prestigious LIFE magazine" . . . .

EML3 said:

Prince is hardly Mozart! Let's be realistic.

& where are The Pixies ( far better than Nirvana IMO), The Smiths ( Morrissey one of the greatest singer of pop history) & The Clash ( far mor interesting than The Sex-Pistols)?

Dumbass..... you try to speak as though you have some 'GREATER UNDERSTANDING'. You come across as quite shallow to me. Just my opinion.[/quote]

Not a greater understanding, you moron, I can just be unbiased in my opinions. I'm here because Prince is my favorite musician, but I understand that just because I think he's great doesn't mean everyone else has to. that's the opposite of shallow.
[This message was edited Mon Mar 18 14:30:22 PST 2002 by dumbass]

I would have liked to have seen him in the top 20 at least.

wellbeyond said:

Let's talk about stupidity, you knuckle draggin schmuck. It took you how many times to understand that I joined in 2002 for the full year 2002 membership & I still got the Rave Special Edition CD, despite the content of the e-mail stating otherwise? That is, if you even understand it now, which is unlikely. Maybe I need to explain it to you in baboon?

James Brown left his mark and went away quietly. Now doesn't he just set up cameras in womens' restrooms and get sued by people? His musical output barely attracts enough attention to be critiqued. Prince on the other hand made his mark, yet even though his star lost its shine long ago, he still wants to be treated like he's happening. He's not. He's nothing. His place on the lower end of polls like this is fitting. You know you'd be thrilled if he were near the top, and you and many others on this site would celebrate it like it was a fucking national holiday. You'd praise the journalist like he was worthy of the damn Nobel Prize. Prince is a has-been. A tosser. Yet you're one of his most avid supporters. Go you!

So, I've reached a new height of stupidity...well, I still have a way to go before I reach where your relatives are swinging around up in the trees.

Wow I'm loving all the swearing!!. I've never seen m.j.playing 27 instruments

kellyannemcclure said:

What the hell are you babbling on about...lol...first you attempt to say JB wouldn't be considered a top 5 rock and roller since he's primarily funk, so it's a mistake for me to feel he should be listed there...then I come back and let you know that he is indeed in Life's top 5, so it wasn't a mistake on my part at all, it seems...and you respond by rambling on about the topic of another thread..lol..AND about Prince...neither of which have anything to do with where JB landed on this list and his deserving a top 5 spot...Holy shit, the monkeys are on fire today, KA...

Too funny Kelly.Some people just are not worth argueing with.P.S. What the hell is that new addition at Paisley supposed to be? I pulled into the parking lot and they told me to leave

kisscamille said:

I believe you're absolutely right. I had no idea she was the Troll under the P.org bridge. She looked like a nice girl to me.

Peace,
P-Dogz

dumbass said:

Not a greater understanding, you moron, I can just be unbiased in my opinions. I'm here because Prince is my favorite musician, but I understand that just because I think he's great doesn't mean everyone else has to. that's the opposite of shallow.
[This message was edited Mon Mar 18 14:30:22 PST 2002 by dumbass]
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So popularity breeds greatness?

I can be unbiased as well without calling names nor being argumentative nor condescending.

Ability and accomplishment doesn't always bring popularity. This dood that we all admire takes many more steps towards being disliked than he does toward being liked. Prince has for years attempted to become the black sheep.


I am not gonna argue with you.

later

Life Magazine

Time Life

Time Warner

Warner Bros. Records.



Can you really expect a better ranking from this company?

Do the math.

So popularity breeds greatness?

No, but in Prince's case his popularity coincided with his best music. when the music declined, so did his popularity. and I am not saying all of the music has been bad. since chaos and disorder, each of his cd's has had at least one song that is among his best: I like it there, joint 2 joint, Come on, prettyman, and the everlasting now. the problem is the albums haven't been as good as his albums were in the past.

furthermore, if Prince were to have started his career in the 90's, he would never have became as popular as he had with his 80's output. while the symbol album and gold are great, everything else, from diamonds and pearls to the rainbow children have just been lacking in one area or another, unlike the brilliant albums he produced starting with dirty mind all the way to lovesexy, which is the basis for the brilliance of Prince.


Ability and accomplishment doesn't always bring popularity.

no, but when ranking musicians for their greatness, one neccesity is for the musician to be known so as to be able to be compared to other known musicians. there may as well be musicians funkier than Prince and James brown put together out there in the world who may deserve to be number one on the list, but if they never achieved a level of popualrity no one would know them and thus they could never be on a list. in some cases, popularity is a major factor when judging and comparing people.

and one last thing. at one time Prince was pop music, as were everyone from the Beatles to Otis Redding. pop is not a bad word thus being popular is not bad either. only those who are not are bitter at it.

wellbeyond said:

Listen up, you chump --- [obs. deleted -Ben]. So sorry I didn't stay "on topic," it's so obvious that you ALWAYS do. In your original post, you said:

Not to mention this list seems to somewhat devalue R&B contributions...please put James Brown in the top 5, for he was the flashpoint for 4 decades of funk...unless, of course, the writers who came up with this idiotic poll don't value funk as a genre as much as, let's say, grunge or alternative or punk...

So the way I see it, after you bitched that James Brown MUST be included toward the top of this poll, you went and found yourself a copy of the magazine article and decided you'd feel vindicated after the fact. Personally, I think that's pretty fucking sad. Even more pathetic is that you're now here gloating about what amounts to nothing but dumb luck as he actually did appear in the poll.

And as for my comments relating to the subject of another post, of course, I just wanted to make sure it sunk in with you, Mustafa. Want that banana now? Eek eek.

Cut the racist bullshit, or someone's account is getting deleted.
Flame on, disagree, debate, fine, but personal (especially racial) attacks won't be tolerated. You've been warned.

ben said:

AMEN!