AMEN! BraVo Batdance!! Well spoken and honorable...
This kind of evaluation has nothing to do with Mayte per se, folks -- it's not the Mayte vs. anti Mayte fans -- it's about ethics and moral (turpitude!) and character. I would feel that way about Mani even if I never knew Mayte existed.

No need to state the hackeneyed adage about 'no one really knowing what happened' because people *do* know (unless you are talking Sartre here, which I highly doubt) or my other favorite: 'who cares. it's only about the music' when A) it's usually spewed by someone posting in a non-music related topic/thread; B) it was *never* just about the music...Prince is, was, and always will be a LifestYle!!

Shorty said:

And I am beginning to think with all this noise you are making defending an adulteress that you like to sleep with other women's husbands too.
And this time I am not editing.

i dont see how anyone can hate a person without knowing them personally















Dan

prodigalfan said:

good! there you go! show your true colors...that a girl! Your husband would be so proud of your christian like ways!
You got yourself so wrapped up in this you've convinced yourself that I am defending mani when all I ever said was if you want to be mad at someone...be mad at Prince. lunatic.

Shorty said:

Well is it true? Ask me that question... I have no problem answering that. And THAT is why what I said stands true in my book. Because I am a wife and have seen several friends families broken up by opportunist homewreckers and you know what, I don't care if it was the #1 rock star or the neighborhood mailman. Cheating is wrong! and for some reason you have a problem with that. Can you at least admit that cheating is wrong? o

prodigalfan said:

Oh and my husband supports me 100% about fidelity. He thinks and has even told his best "friend" that "if a man will do that to the woman he lives with day in and day out, is the mother of his children, the woman that (blanks) him, and washes his underwear, if that man can betray his woman, then you know he doesn't give a shyt about betraying me... and I really don't want anything to do with him."
And he also thinks you protest too much. My motivation is crystal clear. I am a married woman who doesn't like infidelity. what is yours?

prodigalfan said:

No, it's not true! Not even close! I've been with ONE man in my entire life! what about you? huh? I don't know why you are trying to turn this personal? and I don't know how many times I have to tell you that I'm NOT defending mani. I just put a lil more blame on Prince, which is a fact you seem to ignore completely.

prodigalfan said:

ugh! so now you think I don't support fidelity? ok, you completely misunderstand everything I say to you. Your husband thinks I protest too much? and you don't? LOL ok
I'm a married woman too who doesn't like infidelity (I mean der! what married woman would say she does like infidelity?) But if my "friend's" husband cheated on her with another woman, I'd be more pissed at the cheating husband than I would at the other woman....Now please don't misunderstand that as I support and commend that women..cause ofcourse I wouldn't but like I said (for the umpteenth time) I'd be more pissed at the husband. I mean geesh is that so wrong? Try knocking prince off that big pedestal you put him on for one second, and put atleast a little blame on him.

hey Hey HEy HEY!! i didn't make this thread 4 yall to do a bunch of personal bashin k?

So tired of all the Mani Hatin stuff .....

Well, IMO – it is as if people really think that the changes in Princes life are because of his relationship with Mani. He is 47 – he is and always has been very capable of making up his own mind on things. Look at how he has been the only one controlling his career. He has made decisions good and bad regarding his career, but no one questions that they were his decisions. But in his relationship with Mani – everyone is giving her all the power. Do you really think so little of Prince?

Is it possible that he is growing and changing and it doesn’t really have anything to do with Mani? We are more than willing to accept the things he has done regarding his career in the past as his decisions – but now that Mani is in the picture she is getting the blame for many things. He became a JW – he met LG – he changed his view on life and God. Hey why are you giving her(Mani) so much power. He is running his show.

Mayte, and Prince did not workout. The marriage is over. Did Prince make mistakes in the marriage? Did Mayte make mistakes in the marriage? Did Mani get involved and have an effect? Will we really ever know? NO it is all speculation. They all have come to terms with it. They have given it closer. We need to.

SOOOO now after all of this – I guess I am just trying to say Prince is a person who seems happy and at peace, he had found joy in his life. He welcomes us in by sharing his music with us – but it really is still his life, lets not judge him or second guess what choices he makes. We would not want people to judge us or second guess our personal choices.

Again this is all IMO.

cocogrille said:

Me too!



Dude, don't rush him - he's 46

CalhounSq said:

opps - sorry - but he still is old enough to make up his own mind.

kisscamille said:

yep, that's just it.

if it were anyone else, people would hate her as much.

yea i agree with someone on here who said "IT'S TIME TO LOCK THIS ONE UP" and its way overdue...

"...MAYBE hearing her say it stayed w/ him for whatever reason & he thought about it more once they got together. OR JUST MAYBE he said that in the interview b/c it sounds good & he's really full of shit - WHO KNOWS??"



My thoughts exactly!!!

Moonwalkbjrain said:

Hey Gang. Sorry, this is totally off the topic, but SHYRA are you a dancer from N. Cali?? If so, then I know you If not, sorry about the interruption...
Peace, e xox

ezinc said:

Last time I checked, nooooo. No problem. You're excused.

LOL!
It's just such a pretty -- and unique -- name!
Best, e

Prince has had so many muses, so who's to say that Mani is the real deal. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't, but every girl he's with, I'm wishing it was me (ha-ha-ha!). I am just wondering what made Mani want to really get at him. I have been obsessing about PRINCE since I was in junior high (when all my cousins were calling him "shaky"), and I said, "I'll dream about him for my whole life." I wonder what stopped ME from moving to Minneapolis (as some say Mani did) -- oh, I had strict parents. Anyway, good luck with Prince and Mani. Maybe this will be his last muse...

The Dreaming Peasant
[This message was edited Sat Jul 24 8:53:41 2004 by TheDreamingPeasant]

.....And, one more thing, was PRINCE that "bad" that he needed church to make him monogamous? I haven't been to church since I was six and I know (and knew since I was young) that "cheating" was a "bad thing to do."

I don't need church to make me "good," I am good naturally. It's one thing to be "good" because you went to church and confessed your sins, but it's ANOTHER to be "good" all on your own without the help of the church.

THAT's the TRUE GOOD; that's the good that _needs_ to be praised. That's the good I've been since I was a young girl.

Ah, well

The Dreaming Peasant

As much as I think Prince is a total babe, he's WAAAY too short for me (I'm 5'9") so I don't want people thinking any of my comments are out of jealousy.

I don't know Mayte OR Mani and so I won't hate on either or them. But it seems like most people are defending Mayte, feeling sorry for her because Mani supposedly stole Prince from her or something. But Mayte should have seen the signs. If anyone read Essence magazine when they interviewed Nona Gaye, she said that she had been with Prince for three years and found out that THEY were over when she went to one of his concerts and saw Mayte wearing an engagement ring. Now I don't condone any woman going through drama or getting her heart broken, but people need to stop and realize when the writing's on the wall. I'm sure she had some knowledge of Nona, but they got involved anyway so what went down came back to haunt her. Now it seems as though Mani has won his heart for the long run, but who knows??? Prince has reinvented himself so many times that if the monagamous Jehovah's Witness image tires him, she might find herself in Mayte's shoes.

aminah80 said:

I didn't even know that P and Nona Gaye were an item. And 3 years! The way Nona found out, was cold! and I am starting to see what Shorty was saying... P is a cold blankey blank. Ah well, I enjoy listening to his music. I would not want to be in love with him. You are just setting yourself up for a heart break.

TheDreamingPeasant said:

It's been reported that Mani was dedicated to making Prince her husband since her high school days. Before she ever met him, she decided to marry him. And I do wonder if Mani stayed 'determined' throughout Prince's marriage to Mayte. Another muse may not have had the boldness, intentions or the connections that she had. But Mani took over fast with her youth intact, she knew how to get what she wanted so she made her move. [This message was edited Sun Jul 25 5:27:25 2004 by Vital]
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[This message was edited Sun Jul 25 6:52:45 2004 by Vital]

prodigalfan said:

Broken hearts sometimes happened because the signs aren't easy to see by the one in love. Mayte might have held so much faith and love in her heart that although it may have been obvious to an outsider, she didn't see the signs. Being cheated on or lied to behind your back while you believe in your partner's love is devastating.

IF -- and this is a big IF because I don't think he'll ever leave Mani: he's 46 and a "changed man." whatever-- anyway, if he left Mani or if Mani left him, I think P would remain solo for the rest of his life. I think he'd finally realize that no one can compete with his true love-- music. When you think about it, he is only dating because he can't take MUSIC to bed and MUSIC can't say: PRINCE, I LOVE YOU. I think you are great in every possible way.

Vital said:

things happen fora reason in life, she was meant to be with him, she went for her dream....she didnt force him, he fell for her
she did her part in chasing him like all fans...BUT HE NOTICED HER
dont come down on mani for that
shes loved him since she was a kid...shes dedicated


Dan

Moonwalkbjrain said:

i no that i'm about a month late on this thread. i truly don't understand who prince is with is anyone's damned business. 4 real, i wouldn't appreciate anybody discussing who i'm sleeping with, married 2, or whatever. that is my business, and if i want 2 tell u about it, then it could b up 4 discussion. yeah, prince is older, wiser, and more religious, and i am happy he found something that makes him feel whole. if that made hi realize monogamy is the bestthing, more power 2 him. i am a prince fan, because of his music, not because of who he is boning at the moment. can u feel me? so don't hate, congradulate. peace, and be wilder

things happen fora reason in life, she was meant to be with him, she went for her dream....she didnt force him, he fell for her
she did her part in chasing him like all fans...BUT HE NOTICED HER
dont come down on mani for that
shes loved him since she was a kid...shes dedicated



Yes -- not _all_ fans get noticed, but since she's "pretty," of course she's going to get a double glance. I used get so mad (inside) when I saw Prince's girlfriends because I'd think, "How did they get _that_ look?" But now I don't think like that cos I'm "filthy cute" and I know it. But Mani happened to be a fan with the kind of look that he likes, I guess. But he noticed me and my twin at a concert and said, "We have twins in the house tonight," and that made me happy enough (well, kind of).