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Reply #30 posted 06/09/04 9:43pm

sosgemini

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endeara said:

the word don't is missing out of the sentence above.

dang man try to be serious and there you go still miss a word. wink



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cute...
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Reply #31 posted 06/09/04 9:51pm

Zelaira

Shelia or Carmen. Definitely Carmen who is a SEX BOMB!
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Reply #32 posted 06/10/04 2:24am

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endeara said:

is it really so hard to believe or think maybe he just saw her somewhere like any other relationship starts and they started a convo and just clicked...

no offense to anyone....just a thought. biggrin


No offense taken biggrin

...but yeah, I find that a little hard to believe ..
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Reply #33 posted 06/10/04 4:53am

ChitChat

endeara said:

just a thought but.....

is it really so hard to believe or think maybe he just saw her somewhere like any other relationship starts and they started a convo and just clicked or when you do work for someone you do start to hang around them ya know especially being an assistant and all...

i mean they just met it happened and it can. i really don't think being a fan or not makes a difference she didn't make him buy her a ring and propose or get married you can't make that man do anything (i would suppose) anyway i just think it to be so distorted as some are making it .

he wouldn't marry someone he hated or thought wierd of i mean really think about it.


who would you all see him married to? wouldn't anyone find fault in whomever. what if it was you in those shoes....it isn't an impossible thing. and even so ... so she did it right i mean dang no offense to anyone....
he loves her that is the bottom line.

just a thought. biggrin



Well, what's weird about it is the way Mani was willing to be part of what broke up prince and Mayte's marriage. Not all women are that tacky, and her willingness to be the way she was does seem to indicate a certain, shall we say, 'dedication' on Mani's part. lol )

But even weirder than that is how Prince chooses women half his age, makes sure they're utterly dependent upon him as his employees, trains them in like little puppies for a few years and then marries them. He did it with Mayte and he's done it again with Mani. That's not love, that's control. That's not meeting and loving someone for who they are, that's finding someone who fits a particular fantasy and trimming off their personality edges until they fit the mold.

I wonder whether Prince would be able to have a normal relationship with a normal (non-stalker/obsessed fan) woman? A woman who's actually worked to have her own direction in life, who isn't employed at Paisley Park and who has enough self-respect not to surrender control over her own life?

Hopefully, Mani and Prince will work out. But, Prince does have a tendency to 'create' his true love and Mani sometimes seems less than sincerely her own self, and like she'd do just about anything to be 'The One'
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Reply #34 posted 06/10/04 6:41am

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ChitChat said:

endeara said:

just a thought but.....

is it really so hard to believe or think maybe he just saw her somewhere like any other relationship starts and they started a convo and just clicked or when you do work for someone you do start to hang around them ya know especially being an assistant and all...

i mean they just met it happened and it can. i really don't think being a fan or not makes a difference she didn't make him buy her a ring and propose or get married you can't make that man do anything (i would suppose) anyway i just think it to be so distorted as some are making it .

he wouldn't marry someone he hated or thought wierd of i mean really think about it.


who would you all see him married to? wouldn't anyone find fault in whomever. what if it was you in those shoes....it isn't an impossible thing. and even so ... so she did it right i mean dang no offense to anyone....
he loves her that is the bottom line.

just a thought. biggrin



Well, what's weird about it is the way Mani was willing to be part of what broke up prince and Mayte's marriage. Not all women are that tacky, and her willingness to be the way she was does seem to indicate a certain, shall we say, 'dedication' on Mani's part. lol )

But even weirder than that is how Prince chooses women half his age, makes sure they're utterly dependent upon him as his employees, trains them in like little puppies for a few years and then marries them. He did it with Mayte and he's done it again with Mani. That's not love, that's control. That's not meeting and loving someone for who they are, that's finding someone who fits a particular fantasy and trimming off their personality edges until they fit the mold.

I wonder whether Prince would be able to have a normal relationship with a normal (non-stalker/obsessed fan) woman? A woman who's actually worked to have her own direction in life, who isn't employed at Paisley Park and who has enough self-respect not to surrender control over her own life?

Hopefully, Mani and Prince will work out. But, Prince does have a tendency to 'create' his true love and Mani sometimes seems less than sincerely her own self, and like she'd do just about anything to be 'The One'
[This message was edited Thu Jun 10 4:56:52 2004 by ChitChat]


Not saying it's right, not trying to judge these folks 'cause I know nothing...

BUT when you look @ his life he really does need someone that's gonna fashion their life after his. He needs that kind of support - she's gotta tour w/ him, she's gotta support him emotionally, she's gotta deal w/ his schedule & know that the music is his real wife... she's kind of a mistress.

And if Mani does indeed fit that mold, loves the shit outta him & enjoys him & his music more than anything in her own life, wants to be w/ him & truly (after getting to know him past the fascination) loves him for the man he is, what's wrong w/ their arrangement? Seems to be working for them both. I hope it continues myself - he seems so happy right now & everybody needs love, control freak or not...

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Reply #35 posted 06/10/04 6:58am

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CalhounSq said:

music is his real wife... she's kind of a mistress.

everybody needs love, control freak or not...



Good points
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Reply #36 posted 06/10/04 11:56am

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ChitChat said:

endeara said:

just a thought but.....

is it really so hard to believe or think maybe he just saw her somewhere like any other relationship starts and they started a convo and just clicked or when you do work for someone you do start to hang around them ya know especially being an assistant and all...

i mean they just met it happened and it can. i really don't think being a fan or not makes a difference she didn't make him buy her a ring and propose or get married you can't make that man do anything (i would suppose) anyway i just think it to be so distorted as some are making it .

he wouldn't marry someone he hated or thought wierd of i mean really think about it.


who would you all see him married to? wouldn't anyone find fault in whomever. what if it was you in those shoes....it isn't an impossible thing. and even so ... so she did it right i mean dang no offense to anyone....
he loves her that is the bottom line.

just a thought. biggrin



Well, what's weird about it is the way Mani was willing to be part of what broke up prince and Mayte's marriage. Not all women are that tacky, and her willingness to be the way she was does seem to indicate a certain, shall we say, 'dedication' on Mani's part. lol )

But even weirder than that is how Prince chooses women half his age, makes sure they're utterly dependent upon him as his employees, trains them in like little puppies for a few years and then marries them. He did it with Mayte and he's done it again with Mani. That's not love, that's control. That's not meeting and loving someone for who they are, that's finding someone who fits a particular fantasy and trimming off their personality edges until they fit the mold.

I wonder whether Prince would be able to have a normal relationship with a normal (non-stalker/obsessed fan) woman? A woman who's actually worked to have her own direction in life, who isn't employed at Paisley Park and who has enough self-respect not to surrender control over her own life?

Hopefully, Mani and Prince will work out. But, Prince does have a tendency to 'create' his true love and Mani sometimes seems less than sincerely her own self, and like she'd do just about anything to be 'The One'
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no offense....how does one create their true love? Also, age is nothing but a number....especially with celebs....just ask Demi and Ashton, Justin and Cameron, Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas, Madonna and Guy. the list goes on and on and on.....
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Reply #37 posted 06/10/04 2:34pm

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Well, what's weird about it is the way Mani was willing to be part of what broke up prince and Mayte's marriage. Not all women are that tacky, and her willingness to be the way she was does seem to indicate a certain, shall we say, 'dedication' on Mani's part. )

But even weirder than that is how Prince chooses women half his age, makes sure they're utterly dependent upon him as his employees, trains them in like little puppies for a few years and then marries them. He did it with Mayte and he's done it again with Mani. That's not love, that's control. That's not meeting and loving someone for who they are, that's finding someone who fits a particular fantasy and trimming off their personality edges until they fit the mold.

I wonder whether Prince would be able to have a normal relationship with a normal (non-stalker/obsessed fan) woman? A woman who's actually worked to have her own direction in life, who isn't employed at Paisley Park and who has enough self-respect not to surrender control over her own life?

Hopefully, Mani and Prince will work out. But, Prince does have a tendency to 'create' his true love and Mani sometimes seems less than sincerely her own self, and like she'd do just about anything to be 'The One'



Excellent post ChitChat! So well said! smile

Unfortunately, age is a number, and a number that *means* something. A 24 year old has had half the life experience of a 46 year old -- period, a fact. And, Prince has been Around The World In A Day and thensome. Shared life experiences make up a lot of what most couples need to thrive in [daily] reality: compatibility. It's not just about favorite colors or jamba juices. Citing examples of other couples with similar age discrepancies is A) meaningless and B) sort of like having your kid come home from school and say "I did drugs, but it's cool cos everyone else is doing em too." Women have fought for centuries for some equality, and there is something really diminutive in the twisted view that "child" brides have power by virtue of their innocence -- they don't. This kind of imbalance only holds short-lived allure because difference is intriguing but not everlasting...
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Reply #38 posted 06/10/04 2:51pm

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ezinc said:

Citing examples of other couples with similar age discrepancies is A) meaningless and B) sort of like having your kid come home from school and say "I did drugs, but it's cool cos everyone else is doing em too."


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Im so glad you said it, cause I just couldn't muster the strength to - once again - explain that because something
is in a certain it doesnt have to be that way.

(Philosophers call it the Naturalistic Error of Inference) geek
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Reply #39 posted 06/10/04 4:00pm

ChitChat

CalhounSq said:

ChitChat said:




Well, what's weird about it is the way Mani was willing to be part of what broke up prince and Mayte's marriage. Not all women are that tacky, and her willingness to be the way she was does seem to indicate a certain, shall we say, 'dedication' on Mani's part. lol )

But even weirder than that is how Prince chooses women half his age, makes sure they're utterly dependent upon him as his employees, trains them in like little puppies for a few years and then marries them. He did it with Mayte and he's done it again with Mani. That's not love, that's control. That's not meeting and loving someone for who they are, that's finding someone who fits a particular fantasy and trimming off their personality edges until they fit the mold.

I wonder whether Prince would be able to have a normal relationship with a normal (non-stalker/obsessed fan) woman? A woman who's actually worked to have her own direction in life, who isn't employed at Paisley Park and who has enough self-respect not to surrender control over her own life?

Hopefully, Mani and Prince will work out. But, Prince does have a tendency to 'create' his true love and Mani sometimes seems less than sincerely her own self, and like she'd do just about anything to be 'The One'
[This message was edited Thu Jun 10 4:56:52 2004 by ChitChat]


Not saying it's right, not trying to judge these folks 'cause I know nothing...

BUT when you look @ his life he really does need someone that's gonna fashion their life after his. He needs that kind of support - she's gotta tour w/ him, she's gotta support him emotionally, she's gotta deal w/ his schedule & know that the music is his real wife... she's kind of a mistress.

And if Mani does indeed fit that mold, loves the shit outta him & enjoys him & his music more than anything in her own life, wants to be w/ him & truly (after getting to know him past the fascination) loves him for the man he is, what's wrong w/ their arrangement? Seems to be working for them both. I hope it continues myself - he seems so happy right now & everybody needs love, control freak or not...

twocents


Like he said. Good points. People do need love and prince does have a demanding, unique schedule. And, you're right we have no place judging the two of them from distances like ours. Because after all Maybe you're right. Maybe prince 'needs' a stalker type around to fall in line with what he does no matter what it is, obeying him completely every time. I would have thought he'd more enjoy a person with ideas of her own, like mayte's had her dance career, but I don't know for sure

But your response goes back to the original question of the thread: is she a stalker? or does she truly love him for him? I hope she does love him. I hope she didn't convert to jehovah just to get closer, I hope she occasionally says 'no' to the guy for his own good when it's necessary and I hope she brings more to the table than just compliance and the ability to breed. Because if she's a stalker at heart that might not be the healthiest foundation for lasting love

But, who knows? Hopefully it will work out
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Reply #40 posted 06/10/04 4:31pm

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ChitChat said:


Like he said. Good points. People do need love and prince does have a demanding, unique schedule. And, you're right we have no place judging the two of them from distances like ours. Because after all Maybe you're right. Maybe prince 'needs' a stalker type around to fall in line with what he does no matter what it is, obeying him completely every time. I would have thought he'd more enjoy a person with ideas of her own, like mayte's had her dance career, but I don't know for sure

But your response goes back to the original question of the thread: is she a stalker? or does she truly love him for him? I hope she does love him. I hope she didn't convert to jehovah just to get closer, I hope she occasionally says 'no' to the guy for his own good when it's necessary and I hope she brings more to the table than just compliance and the ability to breed. Because if she's a stalker at heart that might not be the healthiest foundation for lasting love

But, who knows? Hopefully it will work out


You know i can respect your opinion on this. I had never thought about it in this aspect of the situation. And what u said makes sense, there are some people in this world who have to have the "stalker/smother" type of person to love them b/c they feel that a person on their dick all the time fulfills their emotional needs. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Reply #41 posted 06/10/04 6:51pm

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missfee said:

ChitChat said:


Like he said. Good points. People do need love and prince does have a demanding, unique schedule. And, you're right we have no place judging the two of them from distances like ours. Because after all Maybe you're right. Maybe prince 'needs' a stalker type around to fall in line with what he does no matter what it is, obeying him completely every time. I would have thought he'd more enjoy a person with ideas of her own, like mayte's had her dance career, but I don't know for sure

But your response goes back to the original question of the thread: is she a stalker? or does she truly love him for him? I hope she does love him. I hope she didn't convert to jehovah just to get closer, I hope she occasionally says 'no' to the guy for his own good when it's necessary and I hope she brings more to the table than just compliance and the ability to breed. Because if she's a stalker at heart that might not be the healthiest foundation for lasting love

But, who knows? Hopefully it will work out


You know i can respect your opinion on this. I had never thought about it in this aspect of the situation. And what u said makes sense, there are some people in this world who have to have the "stalker/smother" type of person to love them b/c they feel that a person on their dick all the time fulfills their emotional needs. Thanks for pointing this out.


You know? Prince should thank us for psychoanalyzing him and his wife
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Reply #42 posted 06/11/04 1:04am

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what a shitty thread smile
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Reply #43 posted 06/11/04 1:12am

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ChitChat said:

CalhounSq said:



Not saying it's right, not trying to judge these folks 'cause I know nothing...

BUT when you look @ his life he really does need someone that's gonna fashion their life after his. He needs that kind of support - she's gotta tour w/ him, she's gotta support him emotionally, she's gotta deal w/ his schedule & know that the music is his real wife... she's kind of a mistress.

And if Mani does indeed fit that mold, loves the shit outta him & enjoys him & his music more than anything in her own life, wants to be w/ him & truly (after getting to know him past the fascination) loves him for the man he is, what's wrong w/ their arrangement? Seems to be working for them both. I hope it continues myself - he seems so happy right now & everybody needs love, control freak or not...

twocents


Like he said. Good points. People do need love and prince does have a demanding, unique schedule. And, you're right we have no place judging the two of them from distances like ours. Because after all Maybe you're right. Maybe prince 'needs' a stalker type around to fall in line with what he does no matter what it is, obeying him completely every time. I would have thought he'd more enjoy a person with ideas of her own, like mayte's had her dance career, but I don't know for sure

But your response goes back to the original question of the thread: is she a stalker? or does she truly love him for him? I hope she does love him. I hope she didn't convert to jehovah just to get closer, I hope she occasionally says 'no' to the guy for his own good when it's necessary and I hope she brings more to the table than just compliance and the ability to breed. Because if she's a stalker at heart that might not be the healthiest foundation for lasting love

But, who knows? Hopefully it will work out


That's hard to call. I hope & pray (for both of their sakes) that she truly loves HIM, not just the idea of him & all the trappings.

I hate to even participate on threads like this b/c it's all so gossipy BUT here I go rolleyes If it's true that she used to chat all the time on his site, eventually moved there to work for him, became his assistant & the rest is history - well, the behavior is certainly suspect. BUT (and this is about to get REAL corny) how do we know these 2 weren't meant to be? Maybe she took the steps she had to take to get to the man of her dreams. Yea, the initial intentions were far fetched infatuation BUT MAYBE (hopefully) it really did turn into something REAL.

We have no clue what's inside these people's hearts. Had Mani been famous herself we wouldn't question her intentions so much - do we call Rick Fox a stalker b/c he was a long time admirer of Vanessa Williams' long before he ever met & married her? NO, WE DON'T b/c he was able to meet her under circumstances we accept as normal & b/c he's famous too.

I just feel wrong for even commenting on Mani's intentions b/c I don't know what's in her heart, so I can't say whether she's a successful stalker or just another girlfriend who got a ring. I just know my man seems happy & I hope what he feels & is getting in return is REAL...

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Reply #44 posted 06/11/04 9:17am

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mrdespues said:

I am too stupid for this thread smile


I completely agree smile
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Reply #45 posted 06/11/04 10:11am

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CalhounSq said:

ChitChat said:



Like he said. Good points. People do need love and prince does have a demanding, unique schedule. And, you're right we have no place judging the two of them from distances like ours. Because after all Maybe you're right. Maybe prince 'needs' a stalker type around to fall in line with what he does no matter what it is, obeying him completely every time. I would have thought he'd more enjoy a person with ideas of her own, like mayte's had her dance career, but I don't know for sure

But your response goes back to the original question of the thread: is she a stalker? or does she truly love him for him? I hope she does love him. I hope she didn't convert to jehovah just to get closer, I hope she occasionally says 'no' to the guy for his own good when it's necessary and I hope she brings more to the table than just compliance and the ability to breed. Because if she's a stalker at heart that might not be the healthiest foundation for lasting love

But, who knows? Hopefully it will work out



That's hard to call. I hope & pray (for both of their sakes) that she truly loves HIM, not just the idea of him & all the trappings.

I hate to even participate on threads like this b/c it's all so gossipy BUT here I go rolleyes If it's true that she used to chat all the time on his site, eventually moved there to work for him, became his assistant & the rest is history - well, the behavior is certainly suspect. BUT (and this is about to get REAL corny) how do we know these 2 weren't meant to be? Maybe she took the steps she had to take to get to the man of her dreams. Yea, the initial intentions were far fetched infatuation BUT MAYBE (hopefully) it really did turn into something REAL.

We have no clue what's inside these people's hearts. Had Mani been famous herself we wouldn't question her intentions so much - do we call Rick Fox a stalker b/c he was a long time admirer of Vanessa Williams' long before he ever met & married her? NO, WE DON'T b/c he was able to meet her under circumstances we accept as normal & b/c he's famous too.

I just feel wrong for even commenting on Mani's intentions b/c I don't know what's in her heart, so I can't say whether she's a successful stalker or just another girlfriend who got a ring. I just know my man seems happy & I hope what he feels & is getting in return is REAL...

twocents


Thank you CS. You express what I was was trying to say, but couldn't convey it appropriately.

Obviously, I have offended some orgers and Mayteonliners, but as much as you guys get tired of some folks bashing Mayte. Some folks are tired of you guys bashing Mani. The truth of the matter is, like CS stated, this is all gossipy. NONE of us know the real story.... It doesn't matter that Cassandra is friends with Mayte (which I am happy for you). It doesn't matter what Dave has said. It doesn't matter what the tabloid print. And besides all that, it is the past. Why can't we all just move forward and be happy for Mayte, Prince AND Mani!!! They have moved forward why can't we. As their fans. We have all been in all sorts of relationships that ended for whatever reason, but we eventually got over them a nd moved on..

Personally, I have nothing against Mayte. I wish her the best. I certainly don't have anything against Prince and Mani, and I wish them the best. Prince is happy and it shows.....

Believe it or not, it takes more energy to hate. Once you forgive and forget, doesn't it feel much better?

So to all the orgers (CokeJohnson, if u want to orgnote me to resolve our issues, please feel free) and all the Mayteonliners, I apologize for offending or upsetting you guys. However, I will not apologize for speaking/and or defending Prince and Mani. The past is the past, let it go.

Thx all
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CalhounSq said:[quote]

ChitChat said:




he seems so happy right now & everybody needs love, control freak or not...

twocents


Well as much as I disapprove of adultery, I have to agree with this statement.
And, what is done is done. P has moved on as has Mayte.
And what will be, will be... (for you Mani,) ...sorry I can't help it.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #47 posted 06/12/04 10:52pm

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CalhounSq said:[quote]ChitChat said:[quote]



We have no clue what's inside these people's hearts. Had Mani been famous herself we wouldn't question her intentions so much - do we call Rick Fox a stalker b/c he was a long time admirer of Vanessa Williams' long before he ever met & married her? NO, WE DON'T b/c he was able to meet her under circumstances we accept as normal & b/c he's famous too.

nod nod nod

Good point.
BUT!!!
vanessa was DIVORCED when Rick met her. I think some of the criticism is because it is quite obvious that P was very much married when he met the new Mrs Nelson. So all those actions the Mani made to get close to P is suspect.

I don't know about y'all, but I find adultery as a pretty seriously bad thing to do. It is bad enough when 2 people work together or meet each other under some pretty innocent circumstances and find themselves in a mess of an affair and just have to follow their heart. It is a whole other deal when you are at a computer in your college dorm room or at home in Toronto and you start SCHEMING and PLANNING to meet a man that you say you are going to marry and DAMMMIT he is ALREADY MARRIED!!! To me that is inexcusable. And sorry I didn't mean to go this deep on this subject, but let me say this too.... if you will go that far to get your man, converting to JW just to get P is along the same lines.
And so is being nice to fans and putting out the persona of being a nice sweet girl. I believe if P told her to act like a B*tch to fans, she would be the BIGGEST B you have ever met, I bet if he said dress like a slut, she would put the costumes of V-6 to shame.
This may sound crazy, but I feel sorry for Mani ---- no NOT today, she is on top of her game today... but the day will come when it will be apparent to her, to her family, to the WHOLE FREAKING world that she has been cast aside by P. And when that day comes, she will then realize just what she has given up. Many people have this day of recognition and snap. Ask Betty Broderick, she shot her ex and new bunny wife dead as they slept in their bed. She said, she gave up and gave to him EVERYTHING and when he left, there was nothing left.
So sad.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #48 posted 06/13/04 1:10am

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prodigalfan said:

CalhounSq said:

We have no clue what's inside these people's hearts. Had Mani been famous herself we wouldn't question her intentions so much - do we call Rick Fox a stalker b/c he was a long time admirer of Vanessa Williams' long before he ever met & married her? NO, WE DON'T b/c he was able to meet her under circumstances we accept as normal & b/c he's famous too.


nod nod nod

Good point.
BUT!!!
vanessa was DIVORCED when Rick met her. I think some of the criticism is because it is quite obvious that P was very much married when he met the new Mrs Nelson. So all those actions the Mani made to get close to P is suspect.

I don't know about y'all, but I find adultery as a pretty seriously bad thing to do. It is bad enough when 2 people work together or meet each other under some pretty innocent circumstances and find themselves in a mess of an affair and just have to follow their heart. It is a whole other deal when you are at a computer in your college dorm room or at home in Toronto and you start SCHEMING and PLANNING to meet a man that you say you are going to marry and DAMMMIT he is ALREADY MARRIED!!! To me that is inexcusable. And sorry I didn't mean to go this deep on this subject, but let me say this too.... if you will go that far to get your man, converting to JW just to get P is along the same lines.
And so is being nice to fans and putting out the persona of being a nice sweet girl. I believe if P told her to act like a B*tch to fans, she would be the BIGGEST B you have ever met, I bet if he said dress like a slut, she would put the costumes of V-6 to shame.
This may sound crazy, but I feel sorry for Mani ---- no NOT today, she is on top of her game today... but the day will come when it will be apparent to her, to her family, to the WHOLE FREAKING world that she has been cast aside by P. And when that day comes, she will then realize just what she has given up. Many people have this day of recognition and snap. Ask Betty Broderick, she shot her ex and new bunny wife dead as they slept in their bed. She said, she gave up and gave to him EVERYTHING and when he left, there was nothing left.
So sad.


One thing you might be forgetting - you can't GET a man who don't wanna get GOT... Let's not act like P is all innocent in this - it's not Mani's "fault".

Maybe if it hadn't been Mani it would have been someone else, then there'd be a flood of shit about THAT woman (swap the blame!). Maybe his marriage had already fallen apart. Who knows? And why do people care so much? neutral Those 2 are sleeping WELL every night so what's the point in speculating endlessly & getting all dramatic? At the end of the day NONE of this talk matters - what went down went down, it takes 2, ALL that shit. I'm going to bed! smile
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #49 posted 06/13/04 7:23am

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CalhounSq said:

what's the point in speculating endlessly & getting all dramatic? At the end of the day NONE of this talk matters


Agreed. However, this is true for about 99% of the threads on the org. On the other hand, this being a discussion forum, people are free discuss any little detail they find interesting; that's the basic nature of a discussion.

Nobody forces people to read or even post on the threads if one doesn't find it interesting.

Peace peace!
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Reply #50 posted 06/13/04 11:29am

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One thing you might be forgetting - you can't GET a man who don't wanna get GOT... Let's not act like P is all innocent in this - it's not Mani's "fault".

No, I am not forgetting. But it seems to me that some people just sort of nod their head about "yeah P was bad but hey he is P" but will defend Mani to the end. Sorry there is no defending.

Maybe if it hadn't been Mani it would have been someone else, then there'd be a flood of shit about THAT woman (swap the blame!).

You are right about that.... but that doesn't absolve the guilt.

Maybe his marriage had already fallen apart. Who knows?

Maybe the marriage was falling apart. But if you have ever been married before, or if you are married now, you know that marriage is hard work and sometimes things are precarious and IF there is no interference, the couple has a chance to find their way back to each other. Mayte and Prince never got that chance. I am married and we got the chance and are still together, now have a beautiful daughter etc etc. But if there was a woman or man scheming to break us up, we would have broken up for sure. My point is this, one day Mani is going to need that same chance... and if she doesn't get that chance because another woman is waiting in the wings, well just remember this, there is a thing called Karma.
[This message was edited Sun Jun 13 11:36:54 2004 by prodigalfan]
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Reply #51 posted 06/13/04 7:40pm

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what goes around comes around...
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #52 posted 06/13/04 8:36pm

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missfee said:

what goes around comes around...



LIKE I SAID- MANI WILL LEAVE PRINCE WHEN SHE REALIZES SHE IS IN LOVE WITH MAYTE!!!!
All her hard work and dedication to win her man clouded her vision of what she really wants- Mayte!!! *giggle*

Once that happens- I will make my move! How exactly did she do it? I need to take notes- move to MN- no problem I am from there originally... get job selling T-shirts- well, I would hate it, but ok... *mental note, learn to accept retail sales job* then work way to being assistant- ok, seems like a MAJOR career jump... *practice jumping up and down in my bathroom mirror* then what? I just don't get it.... seriously-
It all does sound fishy..... She should write a book on winning the man of your dreams-I would buy it and try it! *smirk*

But- someone above said- you can't get what doesn't want to be got!!!! And who knows- MAYBE he pursued her!!!!! *giggle*
"It's only been an hour since you left me, but it feels like a million days...... I'd crawl on my belly and beg you but you're so far away." prince
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Reply #53 posted 06/13/04 9:50pm

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CokeJohnson said:

CalhounSq said:

what's the point in speculating endlessly & getting all dramatic? At the end of the day NONE of this talk matters


Agreed. However, this is true for about 99% of the threads on the org. On the other hand, this being a discussion forum, people are free discuss any little detail they find interesting; that's the basic nature of a discussion.

Nobody forces people to read or even post on the threads if one doesn't find it interesting.

Peace peace!


I understand the nature of a discussion forum neutral My point is that the folks who are REALLY passionate about Mani or Mayte or P's record of infidelity are... using their energy in interesting ways, LOL...

Peace right back @ you smile
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Reply #54 posted 06/14/04 12:04am

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you know i think basically and mind it is fun at times (unfortunately at Mani's exspence) to think of her as a fantasy type stalking situation but i really think it was just a matter of Prince and Mayte having problems or just not connecting anymore and maybe Mani was there for him, she listened and perhaps was just really understanding , maybe just being a friend.

i have to say for the record i have been to Paisley more times than i care to really admit wink and i never noticed Mani there at all. and trust after a while you know who or what is going to catch his eye or his interests (if you pay attention) he does have wonderful taste in women of all races and ages etc. he is just a man who loves beauty in its different forms.

i think they somehow met - got along really well connected so to speak and it just went from there. now i am sure she is no dumby and when realizing the feelings going where they were, she jumped right on the band wagon (as many would including me.... shoot !!! no shame here)

she may have simply listened, which for him is hard to find in someone. i am sure of it. it is hard to find someone you really trust i mean really trust yourself with, and i am sure given his pcelebrity status it is twice as hard. trust is a bigger thing than most don't even grasp. we forget the trivial things = which at the most important moments mean a whole lot in the scheme of things.

and like i have said before he is no naive little boy either....he knows what he wants and why and it plays out nicely for the time it is meant to. let each soul goes its path even if we stand on the side and try to give our own directions.... just wanted to open more thinking on the subject . it seems (and i am not all about Mani and Prince) there is just so much anger towards her and such negativity on how they got married. takes two to tango. biggrin
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Reply #55 posted 06/14/04 5:29am

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endeara said:

you know i think basically and mind it is fun at times (unfortunately at Mani's exspence) to think of her as a fantasy type stalking situation but i really think it was just a matter of Prince and Mayte having problems or just not connecting anymore and maybe Mani was there for him, she listened and perhaps was just really understanding , maybe just being a friend.

i have to say for the record i have been to Paisley more times than i care to really admit wink and i never noticed Mani there at all. and trust after a while you know who or what is going to catch his eye or his interests (if you pay attention) he does have wonderful taste in women of all races and ages etc. he is just a man who loves beauty in its different forms.

i think they somehow met - got along really well connected so to speak and it just went from there. now i am sure she is no dumby and when realizing the feelings going where they were, she jumped right on the band wagon (as many would including me.... shoot !!! no shame here)

she may have simply listened, which for him is hard to find in someone. i am sure of it. it is hard to find someone you really trust i mean really trust yourself with, and i am sure given his pcelebrity status it is twice as hard. trust is a bigger thing than most don't even grasp. we forget the trivial things = which at the most important moments mean a whole lot in the scheme of things.



When you meet someone, you really have to look at the circumstances of how and why you connected with them because that stuff could change later.






and like i have said before he is no naive little boy either....he knows what he wants and why and it plays out nicely for the time it is meant to. let each soul goes its path even if we stand on the side and try to give our own directions.... just wanted to open more thinking on the subject . it seems (and i am not all about Mani and Prince) there is just so much anger towards her and such negativity on how they got married. takes two to tango. biggrin
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Reply #56 posted 06/14/04 8:20am

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endeara said:


and like i have said before he is no naive little boy either....he knows what he wants and why and it plays out nicely for the time it is meant to. let each soul goes its path even if we stand on the side and try to give our own directions.... just wanted to open more thinking on the subject . it seems (and i am not all about Mani and Prince) there is just so much anger towards her and such negativity on how they got married. takes two to tango. biggrin


And this is so true. It is a little hard to accept that these things do happen, and as humans we all make mistakes. And sometimes people get hurt. Hey life isn't fair.
I guess it just burns me when people try to say that something that is wrong ( at least in our culture) is correct/moral.
I also know that the 2 partners in the marriage convenant have a moral and spiritual obligation to keep their union sacred, from other lovers, parents, friends, whatever. After all, it was Prince who stood up in church and married Mayte. Mani didn't pledge a thing and therefore really didn't betray Mayte unless they were somehow friends before all of this, which I doubt.

I just have a hard time accepting the line that Mani is really innocent, a real lady and Mayte is a skank gold digger. It seems to me the woman who sleeps with a married multimillionaire man is acting like the skank gold digger. I just can't help but feel bad for Mayte who spent her youth on a controlling older man, get married and have her baby badly deformed and die, (that would have sent me to the loony bin even if my husband was supportive). Then my husband starts to cheat on me, divorce me under some flim flam wanting to get out of contracts, ship me off to another country while his mistress lives in my house, wears my clothes, sleep with my man, give parties for my friends and associates. I mean it sounds like bad fiction.
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Reply #57 posted 06/18/04 2:56am

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MNlivingCA said:

LIKE I SAID- MANI WILL LEAVE PRINCE WHEN SHE REALIZES SHE IS IN LOVE WITH MAYTE!!!!

Interesting idea hmmm
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Reply #58 posted 06/22/04 12:26am

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charlottegelin said:

My favorite bit in the stalker fantasy is when Mani calls her boyfriend from Minneapolis where she moved to and he says "your're a crazy obsessesd fan, this will all blow over soon, why don't you just come on home", and she says "well, actually I am going to marry him". And she does and the look on his face? Priceless.


Skank schemer! lol
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Reply #59 posted 06/22/04 12:28am

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missfee said:

Mani just followed her obsessive fan routine by learning a few tips from mayte, cuz mayte was a fan too...but then she took her husband, she was a little too good at being "the perfect mistress" and thats why mani is where she is at now...don't u think?


What do u mean the perfect mistress?
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