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Reply #60 posted 05/16/04 9:02pm

PrimordialOoze

preciosa863 said:

Cassandra said:

I agree wholeheartedly with ezinc.

I have friends close to Paisley and Mayte - and friends from Paisley told me about Mani's conquests towards Prince. WHILE HE WAS MARRIED she stayed at Chanhassen hotels going to Paisley parties until Prince noticed her, she became a teeshirt seller at shows, then an assistant. She was the last straw for MAYTE TO LEAVE PRINCE.

Basically a crazy Fanatic Homewrecker.

What is funny to me is that y'all who bash Mayte - who is trained in the Art of Dance... "love" Mani who has done what? Nothing but getting with a married man and eventually marrying him. What does anyone know of this woman?

To each his own I guess.....


no such thing as a homewrecker....If one is taking care of their home, there is nothing to WRECK!!!


See, now that's a philosophy I can't understand. Maybe the 'home' is bad or the marriage is close to ending, but the marriage STILL EXISTS. It is still a union that another outside woman has NO PLACE involving herself in or adding to.

A woman of class, character, and self-respect will stay far away from another woman's husband - no matter HOW terrible the marriage is - until that married man takes care of his unfinished business with his wife, obtains a legal divorce, and becomes available as a single man again.

*Obviously* the married man plays his part in the whole shady scenario if he opts to cheat on his wife with another woman, but the 'other woman' has, in my opinion, a moral and ethical obligation to 'do the right thing' and NOT GET INVOLVED IN ANOTHER'S MARRIAGE.

If Mani got involved with Prince, a legally married man, bound to another woman by vows, then it is my contention that even if his marriage was allegedly horrible, she's not a woman of honor or of any character to involve herself in another couple's marriage. She should've kept her nose out of it until Prince became legally divorced...but I guess she felt she needed to strike when the iron was hot so as to snag what she wanted.
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Reply #61 posted 05/16/04 9:05pm

PrimordialOoze

preciosa863 said:

it's funny how everyone is so sweet and loving over at Mayteonline, but come over here to trash Prince and Mani. This thread is, I mean, was about pics of Mani, Mayte wasn't included in the subject line.



I do agree with that. These threads always seem to degenerate into civil wars..the 'Mani folks' against the 'Mayte folks' and that's too bad because it can get venomous from both sides. neutral
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Reply #62 posted 05/16/04 9:08pm

PrimordialOoze

PrimordialOoze said:

preciosa863 said:



You know i love ya, but explain exactly what do you mean??? I know that we've all heard a lot of good and not so good things about Mani; I know you've been in her presence a couple of times, but I really would like to know what you know, mean....
confuse



By fake 'other than the physical', I mean this: people can put on a real front if they think being a certain way, or acting a certain way, or claiming a certain thing can garner them what they want. Basically, they are PHONY. People bag on Mayte sometimes by saying she wore "too much" makeup or whatever and was therefore "fake", physically...well, it's my opinion that Mani might be more 'natural' physically speaking, but - IMO - she's fake in other ways.


Oh and I forgot to tell you I love ya too, lady. smile I hope nothing I've said on this thread offended or came across as rude cuz I didn't mean anything that way.
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Reply #63 posted 05/17/04 6:32am

Zelaira

What is this NATURAL BEAUTY CRAP? WHAT ARE WE LIVING ON A FARM.? MANI is WITh PRINCE who is a Performer and She SHOULD WEAR some MAKE-Up to Look Glamourous. I'd Like to see her with Make-Up on...Mayte was TOTALLY GLAM as CARMEN and SHELIa. Can Mani Look Good with Make-Up..Women wear Make-Up.. Hollywood wears make-up. This Ain't Fucking Kansas. If somebody wants Natural go to a DEAD CONCERT..HOLLYWOOD is GLTTER! WISE-UP !Stop thinking PRIMATIVE.... Natural is Farting!!!
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Reply #64 posted 05/17/04 7:03am

preciosa863

PrimordialOoze said:

PrimordialOoze said:




By fake 'other than the physical', I mean this: people can put on a real front if they think being a certain way, or acting a certain way, or claiming a certain thing can garner them what they want. Basically, they are PHONY. People bag on Mayte sometimes by saying she wore "too much" makeup or whatever and was therefore "fake", physically...well, it's my opinion that Mani might be more 'natural' physically speaking, but - IMO - she's fake in other ways.


Oh and I forgot to tell you I love ya too, lady. smile I hope nothing I've said on this thread offended or came across as rude cuz I didn't mean anything that way.



everything's cool (u didn't come across that way; i hope that I didn't come across that way). I know we are past all of that.....
smile
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Reply #65 posted 05/17/04 7:05am

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i have to disagree the one thing i do like about mani is that she does not need to wear make-up. she is very pretty without it.

if you watched Carmen and Dave , Carmen stopped wearing alot of make-up like she use to.

men marry natural.

they leave the made up dolls where they found them. that is the truth. but alas it is also my opinion. so... i won't exclude yours. i did find the whole natural is farting thing funny tho. wink

but still she looks good in these pictures and she doesn't have make-up on. that is so like amazing to me. she is natural beauty. good for him that he finally wants that.

plus when you wear make-up all the time then your natural face starts looking odd without it.

so waking up next to someone is horrifying for them. you have to run into the bathroom to get back to the way they saw you last.
if you ask me that is just to much to go through.

granted i think that Kelly Clarkson (first american idol winner) needs some make-up. lol
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Reply #66 posted 05/17/04 7:48am

Zelaira

I'm gonna say Mani has Great Model Looks ya know she could be Pretty without all the War-Paint. Still what would she look like with some eyemakeup? I think she Probably looks Better Without Make-up. Carmen wears Tons cause well In Till Death Do Us Part She was Way Pale and then you saw her with Make-up. Anyway,yes a Tan and Exercise and Nice Hair is theBest.If you are Healthy and have good Genes well ya don't need much. Yes, I agree Mani is a very pretty woman without Makeup. I Never said she wasn't. Just did Not like the bad Hair and clothes in the early photos.
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Reply #67 posted 05/17/04 12:44pm

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Anxiety said:

that second one from the bottom, he's totally making the purple rain movie poster face.


Damn if he's not!! Whew... suddenly very hot in heyuh... bow
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Reply #68 posted 05/17/04 2:54pm

Zelaira

By the Way I think Everyone should Stop Hating on Mayte and Mani.. I dig the Ladies. Maybe we are Not Fond of Mayte's Chouces Namely Tommy Lee but well it's Her Life. Also Manuela Has Helped Prince over the years so she is Cool. Let's all be Fair about Stuff.
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Reply #69 posted 05/17/04 7:29pm

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Zelaira said:

I'm gonna say Mani has Great Model Looks ya know she could be Pretty without all the War-Paint. Still what would she look like with some eyemakeup? I think she Probably looks Better Without Make-up. Carmen wears Tons cause well In Till Death Do Us Part She was Way Pale and then you saw her with Make-up. Anyway,yes a Tan and Exercise and Nice Hair is theBest.If you are Healthy and have good Genes well ya don't need much. Yes, I agree Mani is a very pretty woman without Makeup. I Never said she wasn't. Just did Not like the bad Hair and clothes in the early photos.



oh yea i do agree with the early photos of clothes. but i love the curly hair. she looks really good with the straight but i wish she would wear the curly for a minute.

but we know what happens when you tell mani she looks good.....(sorry inside thing)
"you become her one and only fan, her very own fan...."

but yea all in all i agree wit ya. wink
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Reply #70 posted 05/18/04 7:34am

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endeara said:

i have to disagree the one thing i do like about mani is that she does not need to wear make-up. she is very pretty without it.

if you watched Carmen and Dave , Carmen stopped wearing alot of make-up like she use to.

men marry natural.

they leave the made up dolls where they found them. that is the truth. but alas it is also my opinion. so... i won't exclude yours. i did find the whole natural is farting thing funny tho. wink

but still she looks good in these pictures and she doesn't have make-up on. that is so like amazing to me. she is natural beauty. good for him that he finally wants that.

plus when you wear make-up all the time then your natural face starts looking odd without it.

so waking up next to someone is horrifying for them. you have to run into the bathroom to get back to the way they saw you last.
if you ask me that is just to much to go through.

granted i think that Kelly Clarkson (first american idol winner) needs some make-up. lol


I think that Mayte wore loads of make-up (as Prince did) when she was with Prince, it seemed like it was the whole NPG circus look thing (tommy b in glitter wig shocker etc) but she is very natural now.
Mani is very different to Mayte and, in my opinon, not as beautiful. This might be a good thing for Prince though as sometimes people get stressed with their partner looking glam and all. Maybe he has found more in Mani than looks, as with everyone you may go out with someone that is not as pretty as your last partner, but they crack you up..or they are so amazing looking that you put up with them having smelly feet or something. Just like all of us do, don't we?
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Reply #71 posted 05/18/04 8:25am

Ronny

Really, there is not much more needed to be known about Mani than the basic scenario to make some founded assessments. She may very well be a perfectly nice girl (at least superficially) but the general facts do not speak very highly of her character. Ironically [to criticisms posted about Mayte] Mani seems to have molded herself entirely to suit the sole (and lofty!?) project of snagging Prince.

She was/represents something Prince himself has mocked and ridiculed for years -- the consummate FANATIC. She's the poster girl for the ultimate Prince stalker because her strategy was much more insidious and calculated than hiking up her dress to him at a club --

The fact of Mani's courting him while married to Mayte (and during the baby era) is an entirely other shady discourse. It is almost painful to me that Prince -- my hero -- would support at any level this kind of blatant disrespect. C'mon, Man. You're better than that...
Confirmed reports of her wearing Mayte's clothes, etc., is nothing if not completely FOUL, even if it was initiated by a twisted (read: jilted, vengeful) Prince.

And wasn't Mani a pre/law student? In other words, she was trained in the art of persuasion and not necessarily Truth...

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I normally wouldn't say all this but this rant above has really annoyed me. Firstly, she was not a FANATIC. You are for spending as much time as you did thinking about and writing all that above. 'Courting him while married'?? Please, give me a break - it takes two!

Pre-law student? Where did you get that from? She was in a sought after program called "Law and Society".

What a moron you are to come up with that crap. Give Prince some credit... the man has had more women that Hugh Hefner. I think he would know if he was getting played.

YOU DUMB A**!
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Reply #72 posted 05/18/04 9:53am

kisscamille

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bored


I so agree! This subject is so boring. Give it up for christ sake. Mani is his wife and we should all respect that.
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Reply #73 posted 05/18/04 1:34pm

PrimordialOoze

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Reply #74 posted 05/18/04 6:09pm

HaReMz

ezinc said:

Frankly, I find the entire Mani thing so distasteful, that I can barely to listen to "Call My Name" -- a fantastic ballad (a la older Prince tunes,) which otherwise would have been my new favorite spin were it not for the sheepish undercurrent of insincerity (and tinge of vindictiveness?) There was a time when the hypocritical disparity between Prince's lyrics and the way he actually lived his life were nothing more than trivial incidentals for me. I mean, I did what he *said* not what he did, and pretty much predicated both my sexual and spiritual growth upon the Magic of Prince, enriching my life in so many foundational ways.


I've been following some of the recent posts about Mani and Mani vs. Mayte and now I feel compelled to speak my peace...

Really, there is not much more needed to be known about Mani than the basic scenario to make some founded assessments. She may very well be a perfectly nice girl (at least superficially) but the general facts do not speak very highly of her character. Ironically [to criticisms posted about Mayte] Mani seems to have molded herself entirely to suit the sole (and lofty!?) project of snagging Prince.

She was/represents something Prince himself has mocked and ridiculed for years -- the consummate FANATIC. She's the poster girl for the ultimate Prince stalker because her strategy was much more insidious and calculated than hiking up her dress to him at a club -- hers was a slow & psychological mission, and one that was presumably at the expense of an entire life she left behind. Don't get me wrong -- she obviously carried out every Prince Girl's *fantasy* -- but seriously, to make it one's life ambition, to sacrifice everything else not knowing the man anymore than the rest of us do through his music, is completely wack. I don't know one stable, emotionally healthy woman with a life and purpose that would give everything up to try, even in the strongest days of Prince-obsession (and trust me, we've all had "if only he knew *me*...I-understand-him-in-a-way-that-no-one-else-could" moments.) Not only is that really strange, but it is also very impractical. For starters, you'd have to be independently wealthy...and then have an over-inflated sense of self.

There is no comparison with the way in which his relationship developed with Mayte. She has said many times that she barely knew who he was when she was hired by him to dance -- what she was *trained* to do. Her mother wasn't a Prince fanatic, either, just a bit of an opportunist in that she saw a potential gig for her daughter due to the Middle Eastern influences of his music at the time (Theives In The Temple, I believe.) Any "(eager-to) pleasing" Mayte did over the course of her tenure with NPG has more to do with the fact that she was young, inexperienced and not really exposed to much else. Isolated and in love, she did as he insisted. That was Prince's game.

The fact of Mani's courting him while married to Mayte (and during the baby era) is an entirely other shady discourse. It is almost painful to me that Prince -- my hero -- would support at any level this kind of blatant disrespect. C'mon, Man. You're better than that...
Confirmed reports of her wearing Mayte's clothes, etc., is nothing if not completely FOUL, even if it was initiated by a twisted (read: jilted, vengeful) Prince.

And finally, I find it unbelievable that anyone would think that Mani's acquisition was clever or meritous. It doesn't take Freud to see what needed to be done: Watch Prince sink into spiritual decline; note his inclination towards a particular Jehovah's mentor; honor his need for guidance and nurturance without relinquishing power; and casually dip into the readings, learning the religious principles for yourself to be used in intimate late night conversations about "GodLifeLoveHappinessWorldPeace". Remember that she not only had the advantage of waiting until he became emotionally vulnerable, but also of witnessing what went wrong between him & Mayte (where Mayte "failed.")

And wasn't Mani a pre/law student? In other words, she was trained in the art of persuasion and not necessarily Truth...

Somehow there's nothing pretty about that to me, but then I do see Beauty in a true strength of character, not a constructed one...
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Beautifully stated. Amen. wink
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Reply #75 posted 05/18/04 6:51pm

PrimordialOoze

Ronny said:

I normally wouldn't say all this but this rant above has really annoyed me. Firstly, she was not a FANATIC. You are for spending as much time as you did thinking about and writing all that above. 'Courting him while married'?? Please, give me a break - it takes two!

Pre-law student? Where did you get that from? She was in a sought after program called "Law and Society".

What a moron you are to come up with that crap. Give Prince some credit... the man has had more women that Hugh Hefner. I think he would know if he was getting played.

YOU DUMB A**!


So says the person who has bragged in the past about how he used to trade bootlegs with Mani via alt.music.prince. rolleyes

Are you the caliber of person she associated/associates with? That says a lot right there, imo

and yes she was a 'fanatic'.
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Reply #76 posted 05/18/04 8:14pm

Dan1

who cares if she was afanatic....to many people r quick to judge the kind of person mani is when u dont even know her personally
i think alot of people r just jelouse shes with him....cuz he liked mani,.,he wanted her.....it takes 2 to tango





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Reply #77 posted 05/19/04 12:57am

MightBQueen

Dan1 said:

who cares if she was afanatic....to many people r quick to judge the kind of person mani is when u dont even know her personally
i think alot of people r just jelouse shes with him....cuz he liked mani,.,he wanted her.....it takes 2 to tango





Dannie


we should all be fanatical about the people we love.

yes, i agree, there's a lot of jealousy around here. lol
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Reply #78 posted 05/19/04 8:34am

Zelaira

Why doesn't anyone post the Cool Pictures of him and her with the Gothic look when he was holding up the NEW CD? Or why not that Paris On with the Big-Ass hat? These are Cooler Pics. Those Shoes from the Basketball game were looking like HORSE HOOVES.. How could she Even Walk in Those MONSTROSITIES? Guess had them but they looked like SERIOUS S and M shoes...
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Reply #79 posted 05/19/04 9:44am

preciosa863

Zelaira said:

Why doesn't anyone post the Cool Pictures of him and her with the Gothic look when he was holding up the NEW CD? Or why not that Paris On with the Big-Ass hat? These are Cooler Pics. Those Shoes from the Basketball game were looking like HORSE HOOVES.. How could she Even Walk in Those MONSTROSITIES? Guess had them but they looked like SERIOUS S and M shoes...


BTW, those big-a** hats are back in style. Take a look at the latest edition of people magazine. BIG NAME CELEBS are sportin them lol
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Reply #80 posted 05/19/04 9:53am

Zelaira

Yes! Hats are Very In.. Always were and ya Know it could be like the Whole Doggie Garden Party type thing but well I love Yoko so well I Really loved that 2 Virgins and The Wedding Album. I love the Fact that Prince and Manuela Are VERY Aware and Hip to Things of the Now. What is Cool and Fresh. I Dig that . Viva La Fashionistas.
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Reply #81 posted 05/19/04 10:41am

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It is funny to me how people get so upset and post but use the name "Mayte" when referring to "Mani" and visa versa. If you are going to call someone a skank, ect..., at least get the name right!
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Reply #82 posted 05/19/04 9:39pm

Dan1

Zelaira said:

Why doesn't anyone post the Cool Pictures of him and her with the Gothic look when he was holding up the NEW CD? Or why not that Paris On with the Big-Ass hat? These are Cooler Pics. Those Shoes from the Basketball game were looking like HORSE HOOVES.. How could she Even Walk in Those MONSTROSITIES? Guess had them but they looked like SERIOUS S and M shoes...




i wanna see these pics....does anyone have them?????




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Reply #83 posted 05/20/04 12:30am

diamondpearl1

these are the songs that come 2 mind describe mani...

1n kiss at a time
diamonds & pearls
she loves me 4 me
damn u
pink cashmere
baby
in love
stop, look, listen-delfonics
for the love of you-isley bros.
i wanna hold your hand/she loves you-the beatles
i wanna get next to you/you're on my mind-rose royce
silly love song-paul mccartney & wings
just my imagination/stay/my girl-the temptations
let's get closer/am i dreamin?/always-atlantic starr
i go crazy-paul davis
dance with me-orleans
never ever gonna give you up/ playin your game baby/i've got so much to give-barry white
the look of love-issac hayes
happy-surface
let's go forward-ttd
sara smile-hall & oates
again/heaven help/i belong to you/little girls eyes-lenny kravitz
funny how time flies.../runaway/again-janet jackson
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Reply #84 posted 05/20/04 1:12pm

wavesofbliss

diamondpearl1 said:

these are the songs that come 2 mind describe mani...

1n kiss at a time
diamonds & pearls
she loves me 4 me
damn u
pink cashmere
baby
in love
stop, look, listen-delfonics
for the love of you-isley bros.
i wanna hold your hand/she loves you-the beatles
i wanna get next to you/you're on my mind-rose royce
silly love song-paul mccartney & wings
just my imagination/stay/my girl-the temptations
let's get closer/am i dreamin?/always-atlantic starr
i go crazy-paul davis
dance with me-orleans
never ever gonna give you up/ playin your game baby/i've got so much to give-barry white
the look of love-issac hayes
happy-surface
let's go forward-ttd
sara smile-hall & oates
again/heaven help/i belong to you/little girls eyes-lenny kravitz
funny how time flies.../runaway/again-janet jackson


hmmm is this on the wrong thread, maybe?
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Reply #85 posted 05/20/04 11:11pm

diamondpearl1

wavesofbliss said:

diamondpearl1 said:

these are the songs that come 2 mind describe mani...

1n kiss at a time
diamonds & pearls
she loves me 4 me
damn u
pink cashmere
baby
in love
stop, look, listen-delfonics
for the love of you-isley bros.
i wanna hold your hand/she loves you-the beatles
i wanna get next to you/you're on my mind-rose royce
silly love song-paul mccartney & wings
just my imagination/stay/my girl-the temptations
let's get closer/am i dreamin?/always-atlantic starr
i go crazy-paul davis
dance with me-orleans
never ever gonna give you up/ playin your game baby/i've got so much to give-barry white
the look of love-issac hayes
happy-surface
let's go forward-ttd
sara smile-hall & oates
again/heaven help/i belong to you/little girls eyes-lenny kravitz
funny how time flies.../runaway/again-janet jackson


hmmm is this on the wrong thread, maybe?

awww u just mad cause u aint think of it 1st.....
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Reply #86 posted 05/21/04 4:41am

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I'm not particularly keen on Mani or how it appears that she hooked up with Prince. They're together now so wish them the best all the same. It has made me think less of Prince as a person though.

I'll say this for Mayte though, that girl has held a dignified silence since her split with Prince (terms of divorce be damned!) It would be very easy for her to sell her story about the whole Marriage, death of Gregory, and ultimately the reasons for the divorce, but she hasn't. For that she should be commended, not villified.

Leave her alone. confused
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Reply #87 posted 05/21/04 11:40am

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PrimordialOoze said:

In that 5th picture down she looks like a stick!

Eat a piece of cake, woman!!


Don't be mad, he put her om the same diet Missy went on, you know she eat too much!
-If eye was the man in u'r life
SO WHAT IF WE'RE CONTROLLING ALL THE OIL, IS IT WORTH THE CHILD DYING 4?

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Reply #88 posted 05/21/04 1:57pm

Universaluv

Cassandra said:

What does anyone know of this woman?

To each his own I guess.....


Personally, not enough to criticize her. But that's just me.

For the record, IMO, Mani is pretty. Mayte wasn't all that attractive to me.

As far as who's the better person, I don't know either one of them so that's for Prince to decide.
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Reply #89 posted 05/21/04 2:02pm

Universaluv

Marrk said:

It would be very easy for her to sell her story about the whole Marriage, death of Gregory, and ultimately the reasons for the divorce, but she hasn't. For that she should be commended, not villified.

Leave her alone. confused


I doubt it'd be that easy. Prince is legendary for his confidentiality agreements and I guarantee you she signed one hell of an agreement as par t of that divorce. Londell would be on her ass if she even thought about "telling her story".
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