hey queen that's exactly what my wife said. U must b sisters if u know what I mean! | |
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rojeanla said: hey queen that's exactly what my wife said. U must b sisters if u know what I mean!
your wife sounds like a very intelligent woman. | |
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MightBQueen said: Radiant1 said: Absolutely true. I am thoroughly convinced Prince wouldn't know what to do with a REAL woman, if he had one. He is far too controling to to have a successful/real relationship with anyone. Picking girls young enough to be his daughter(s) is further proof of his fear of real intimacy and normalicy in his personal relationships. A real woman, strong, independent with her own goals & life wouldn't be impressed with his bullshit. Kind of a sad state of affairs for P and the real obvious fear he has of anything but the shallowest of relationships.
that's kind of a harsh judgement. marrying someone younger might also have to do with wanting children. easier for a, say, 25-year-old woman to conceive than a 45-year-old. Let's hope this is not the reason. Why? Because men have their own risks associated with aging and reproduction. It's not just a 'woman' thing, and it never was. That was gender discrimination again: October 18, 2002 Father's Increasing Age Raises Birth Defect Risk This result argues for the development of an effective male contraceptive that would shut off spermatogenesis until a man is ready to father children. Note that as sperm progenitor cells go thru each cell division there is a risk of error during the duplication process. So a way to shut down the process until real functioning sperm are needed could greatly reduce the rate at which harmful mutations accumulate: Importantly, disorders linked to advancing paternal age begin to increase rapidly at about the same time as maternal risks increase -- age 33 to 35. Until now, the only evidence for paternal age effects has come from determining how many children with these diseases are born to fathers of various ages. To obtain the first genetic explanation for these effects, the scientists studied sperm from about 60 men of various ages and looked for two genetic changes responsible for 99 percent of the cases of Apert syndrome. They found that men over 50 were, on average, three times as likely as men under 30 to have sperm with at least one of these changes. The mutations were not more common in blood samples as men aged. The scientists say it's likely that the number of cell divisions that go into making a sperm plays a large role in the link between Apert syndrome and paternal age, and represents a fundamental difference between how aging egg and sperm can impact the health of a child. By Randall Parker at 2002 October 18 05:55 PM Biotech Reproduction http://www.futurepundit.c...00371.html | |
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ChitChat said: MightBQueen said: that's kind of a harsh judgement. marrying someone younger might also have to do with wanting children. easier for a, say, 25-year-old woman to conceive than a 45-year-old. Let's hope this is not the reason. Why? Because men have their own risks associated with aging and reproduction. It's not just a 'woman' thing, and it never was. That was gender discrimination again: October 18, 2002 Father's Increasing Age Raises Birth Defect Risk This result argues for the development of an effective male contraceptive that would shut off spermatogenesis until a man is ready to father children. Note that as sperm progenitor cells go thru each cell division there is a risk of error during the duplication process. So a way to shut down the process until real functioning sperm are needed could greatly reduce the rate at which harmful mutations accumulate: Importantly, disorders linked to advancing paternal age begin to increase rapidly at about the same time as maternal risks increase -- age 33 to 35. Until now, the only evidence for paternal age effects has come from determining how many children with these diseases are born to fathers of various ages. To obtain the first genetic explanation for these effects, the scientists studied sperm from about 60 men of various ages and looked for two genetic changes responsible for 99 percent of the cases of Apert syndrome. They found that men over 50 were, on average, three times as likely as men under 30 to have sperm with at least one of these changes. The mutations were not more common in blood samples as men aged. The scientists say it's likely that the number of cell divisions that go into making a sperm plays a large role in the link between Apert syndrome and paternal age, and represents a fundamental difference between how aging egg and sperm can impact the health of a child. By Randall Parker at 2002 October 18 05:55 PM Biotech Reproduction http://www.futurepundit.c...00371.html sure, but can a 45 year old woman conceive PERIOD, genetic risks or not? a few can... but she's the one carrying the baby, and has to push it out, and that tends to be fairly rough on the body at any age... | |
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MightBQueen said: ChitChat said: Let's hope this is not the reason. Why? Because men have their own risks associated with aging and reproduction. It's not just a 'woman' thing, and it never was. That was gender discrimination again: October 18, 2002 Father's Increasing Age Raises Birth Defect Risk This result argues for the development of an effective male contraceptive that would shut off spermatogenesis until a man is ready to father children. Note that as sperm progenitor cells go thru each cell division there is a risk of error during the duplication process. So a way to shut down the process until real functioning sperm are needed could greatly reduce the rate at which harmful mutations accumulate: Importantly, disorders linked to advancing paternal age begin to increase rapidly at about the same time as maternal risks increase -- age 33 to 35. Until now, the only evidence for paternal age effects has come from determining how many children with these diseases are born to fathers of various ages. To obtain the first genetic explanation for these effects, the scientists studied sperm from about 60 men of various ages and looked for two genetic changes responsible for 99 percent of the cases of Apert syndrome. They found that men over 50 were, on average, three times as likely as men under 30 to have sperm with at least one of these changes. The mutations were not more common in blood samples as men aged. The scientists say it's likely that the number of cell divisions that go into making a sperm plays a large role in the link between Apert syndrome and paternal age, and represents a fundamental difference between how aging egg and sperm can impact the health of a child. By Randall Parker at 2002 October 18 05:55 PM Biotech Reproduction http://www.futurepundit.c...00371.html sure, but can a 45 year old woman conceive PERIOD, genetic risks or not? a few can... but she's the one carrying the baby, and has to push it out, and that tends to be fairly rough on the body at any age... Let's ask Geena Davis and Madonna how they're feeling | |
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MightBQueen said: Radiant1 said: Absolutely true. I am thoroughly convinced Prince wouldn't know what to do with a REAL woman, if he had one. He is far too controling to to have a successful/real relationship with anyone. Picking girls young enough to be his daughter(s) is further proof of his fear of real intimacy and normalicy in his personal relationships. A real woman, strong, independent with her own goals & life wouldn't be impressed with his bullshit. Kind of a sad state of affairs for P and the real obvious fear he has of anything but the shallowest of relationships.
that's kind of a harsh judgement. marrying someone younger might also have to do with wanting children. easier for a, say, 25-year-old woman to conceive than a 45-year-old. I agree that is harsh point of view, enough that it aches...but I guess it's just another sign that the man just ain't perfect & has human flaws like everyone else...you know? Imagine if he was perfect in Music, Woman, looks, & everything else...the man would be a god! [This message was edited Wed Apr 28 20:07:53 2004 by Starmist7] | |
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I don't know much about either Mayte or Mani except from what I read from the board, which I suspect is mostly rumors. But to put my in for the fun of it, Mayte was just too damned young, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't she pregnant when her and P got married, if so, that's the oldest young girl trick in the book. And all this talk I hear about how great she was for him, I remember reading an interview I guess it was close to the end of their marriage where he said she didn't contribute anything to his music/business, she did little things like reminding him about nature and all that, didn't sound all that flattering to me. Now Mani, from the little that trickles down seems to be bright, resourceful, independent and focused, like she's got way more going for her than her a**,and to think she got him and she's not a "stage" person at all, who on P list of lovely ladies can you really say that about., it's always been about career. Mani strikes me a lady that doesn't take sh** from anyone especially P, and that's probably what he needs. | |
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morningsong said: I don't know much about either Mayte or Mani except from what I read from the board, which I suspect is mostly rumors. But to put my in for the fun of it, Mayte was just too damned young, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't she pregnant when her and P got married, if so, that's the oldest young girl trick in the book. And all this talk I hear about how great she was for him, I remember reading an interview I guess it was close to the end of their marriage where he said she didn't contribute anything to his music/business, she did little things like reminding him about nature and all that, didn't sound all that flattering to me. Now Mani, from the little that trickles down seems to be bright, resourceful, independent and focused, like she's got way more going for her than her a**,and to think she got him and she's not a "stage" person at all, who on P list of lovely ladies can you really say that about., it's always been about career. Mani strikes me a lady that doesn't take sh** from anyone especially P, and that's probably what he needs.
Mayte was pregnant because prince got her that way. Have you listened to emancipation yet? 'let's have a baby' is a sweet song. .. And if you're new here then you probably didn't read the interview with Mani's college chum who mentioned that Mani spent all her free time listening to prince back in college, even declaring her intent to get with him, before she ever started working for prince. That doesn't sound bright or intelligent to me, nor does it sound particularly independent. It sounds obsessed. I saw one incident between them at a party couple years back - Mani was about to introduce someone to prince. Instead of walking up and normally introducing her friend to her boss, Mani patiently waited nearby until prince finally noticed her. Instead of speaking to gain his attention, she stood slightly behind him with bowed head, her hands folded in her lap and her own life ticking away while she awaited the convenience of his time and notice. The two women stood there for quite a while before prince turned and saw them. It was weird. It was definitely not natural behavior between a man and woman, it was unnaturally submissive behavior from Mani, excrutiatingly self-effacing and i think Mani's pal thought so too, standing there waiting all that while. | |
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ChitChat said: morningsong said: I don't know much about either Mayte or Mani except from what I read from the board, which I suspect is mostly rumors. But to put my in for the fun of it, Mayte was just too damned young, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't she pregnant when her and P got married, if so, that's the oldest young girl trick in the book. And all this talk I hear about how great she was for him, I remember reading an interview I guess it was close to the end of their marriage where he said she didn't contribute anything to his music/business, she did little things like reminding him about nature and all that, didn't sound all that flattering to me. Now Mani, from the little that trickles down seems to be bright, resourceful, independent and focused, like she's got way more going for her than her a**,and to think she got him and she's not a "stage" person at all, who on P list of lovely ladies can you really say that about., it's always been about career. Mani strikes me a lady that doesn't take sh** from anyone especially P, and that's probably what he needs.
Mayte was pregnant because prince got her that way. Have you listened to emancipation yet? 'let's have a baby' is a sweet song. .. And if you're new here then you probably didn't read the interview with Mani's college chum who mentioned that Mani spent all her free time listening to prince back in college, even declaring her intent to get with him, before she ever started working for prince. That doesn't sound bright or intelligent to me, nor does it sound particularly independent. It sounds obsessed. I saw one incident between them at a party couple years back - Mani was about to introduce someone to prince. Instead of walking up and normally introducing her friend to her boss, Mani patiently waited nearby until prince finally noticed her. Instead of speaking to gain his attention, she stood slightly behind him with bowed head, her hands folded in her lap and her own life ticking away while she awaited the convenience of his time and notice. The two women stood there for quite a while before prince turned and saw them. It was weird. It was definitely not natural behavior between a man and woman, it was unnaturally submissive behavior from Mani, excrutiatingly self-effacing and i think Mani's pal thought so too, standing there waiting all that while. | |
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Kissmequick said: ChitChat said: Mayte was pregnant because prince got her that way. Have you listened to emancipation yet? 'let's have a baby' is a sweet song. .. And if you're new here then you probably didn't read the interview with Mani's college chum who mentioned that Mani spent all her free time listening to prince back in college, even declaring her intent to get with him, before she ever started working for prince. That doesn't sound bright or intelligent to me, nor does it sound particularly independent. It sounds obsessed. I saw one incident between them at a party couple years back - Mani was about to introduce someone to prince. Instead of walking up and normally introducing her friend to her boss, Mani patiently waited nearby until prince finally noticed her. Instead of speaking to gain his attention, she stood slightly behind him with bowed head, her hands folded in her lap and her own life ticking away while she awaited the convenience of his time and notice. The two women stood there for quite a while before prince turned and saw them. It was weird. It was definitely not natural behavior between a man and woman, it was unnaturally submissive behavior from Mani, excrutiatingly self-effacing and i think Mani's pal thought so too, standing there waiting all that while. I spend alot of my free time listening to Prince...does that mean I am obsessed.... Alot of you guys SEEM to spend all your time on Prince.org, does that mean that u are obsessed??? And as far as Mani's "college chum", r we supposed to believe everything that comes out of someone's mouth. It's funny how we take some things as truth without proof. And for Mani waiting patiently to introduce her friend, wouldn't u call that respect??? If she had bombarded Prince, some of yall would have said that she was rude. This woman can't win at any angle. u & me, we got mad chemisty | |
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morningsong said: Mani strikes me a lady that doesn't take sh** from anyone especially P, and that's probably what he needs.
Funny.. while I agree that Mani probably refuses to take shit from other people, I think she - WILLINGLY - takes PLENTY of shit from Prince and that's one of the main reasons she *IS* still around after all this time. For all the things I think Mani is, I definitely don't think she's stupid. She knows what she's doing and she knows how to play the game. | |
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preciosa863 said: Kissmequick said: I spend alot of my free time listening to Prince...does that mean I am obsessed.... Alot of you guys SEEM to spend all your time on Prince.org, does that mean that u are obsessed??? And as far as Mani's "college chum", r we supposed to believe everything that comes out of someone's mouth. It's funny how we take some things as truth without proof. And for Mani waiting patiently to introduce her friend, wouldn't u call that respect??? If she had bombarded Prince, some of yall would have said that she was rude. This woman can't win at any angle. I think we spend as much time on the Org as you do. ME personally, could give a toss about your girl Mani. More power to her for stalking her prey and getting the job done. | |
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PrimordialOoze said: morningsong said: Mani strikes me a lady that doesn't take sh** from anyone especially P, and that's probably what he needs.
Funny.. while I agree that Mani probably refuses to take shit from other people, I think she - WILLINGLY - takes PLENTY of shit from Prince and that's one of the main reasons she *IS* still around after all this time. For all the things I think Mani is, I definitely don't think she's stupid. She knows what she's doing and she knows how to play the game. I completely agree with you!! (finally....it's about time right?) Hatchet is buried. Let's agree to disagree. We all have our different opinions, but that doesn't mean we can get along. u & me, we got mad chemisty | |
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preciosa863 said: PrimordialOoze said: Funny.. while I agree that Mani probably refuses to take shit from other people, I think she - WILLINGLY - takes PLENTY of shit from Prince and that's one of the main reasons she *IS* still around after all this time. For all the things I think Mani is, I definitely don't think she's stupid. She knows what she's doing and she knows how to play the game. I completely agree with you!! (finally....it's about time right?) Hatchet is buried. Let's agree to disagree. We all have our different opinions, but that doesn't mean we can get along. oops, I meant: doesn't mean we CAN'T get along. u & me, we got mad chemisty | |
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preciosa863 said: PrimordialOoze said: Funny.. while I agree that Mani probably refuses to take shit from other people, I think she - WILLINGLY - takes PLENTY of shit from Prince and that's one of the main reasons she *IS* still around after all this time. For all the things I think Mani is, I definitely don't think she's stupid. She knows what she's doing and she knows how to play the game. I completely agree with you!! (finally....it's about time right?) Hatchet is buried. Let's agree to disagree. We all have our different opinions, but that doesn't mean we can get along. Agreed! And I'm glad we could find a common ground. s to you, preciosa863 | |
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PrimordialOoze said: preciosa863 said: I completely agree with you!! (finally....it's about time right?) Hatchet is buried. Let's agree to disagree. We all have our different opinions, but that doesn't mean we can get along. Agreed! And I'm glad we could find a common ground. s to you, preciosa863 ~PrimordialOoze (and thank you) u & me, we got mad chemisty | |
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ChitChat said: Mayte was pregnant because prince got her that way.
Yeah, I suppose that's why he married her, cause it was his. Still it's an old trick. Have you listened to emancipation yet? 'let's have a baby' is a sweet song.
Yes, I've listen to it all. Wasn't she already pregnant, no use crying over spilled milk, besides I'm sure he loved her very much so it wasn't that big of a deal for him. Besides we all know how he just hates a scandal. And if you're new here then you probably didn't read the interview with Mani's college chum who mentioned that Mani spent all her free time listening to prince back in college, even declaring her intent to get with him, before she ever started working for prince. That doesn't sound bright or intelligent to me, nor does it sound particularly independent. It sounds obsessed.
Though I am not new here there are many threads I have never read but I don't believe everything someone says, I mean people do embelish stories to make them sound more exciting. But if Mani did say all that, I find that highly intellegent for someone to make a plan and have the know how to execute it effectively, that takes gumption in my opinion. Obsession is hiding in the bushes terrorizing an individual, babbling all kinds of dribble, breaking into their house and stealing their underwear or something. Anybody who knows how to get what they want is impressive in my book, since most just talk about what they want few have the skills to actually get it, legally. I saw one incident between them at a party couple years back - Mani was about to introduce someone to prince. Instead of walking up and normally introducing her friend to her boss, Mani patiently waited nearby until prince finally noticed her. Instead of speaking to gain his attention, she stood slightly behind him with bowed head, her hands folded in her lap and her own life ticking away while she awaited the convenience of his time and notice. The two women stood there for quite a while before prince turned and saw them. It was weird. It was definitely not natural behavior between a man and woman, it was unnaturally submissive behavior from Mani, excrutiatingly self-effacing and i think Mani's pal thought so too, standing there waiting all that while.
Was she his wife or an employee then? And who was he talking to, perhaps it was business. Besides how they behave in public is no true indication on how they interact in private, maybe she wanted those around to show her man the same kind of respect, you can never tell what the true intentions are. If I wanted my friends to treat my man in a certain way, then example is the best teacher. I think there is more than what one sees in a few seconds, only time will tell. She knows what she's doing and she knows how to play the game.
That sums it up. Got know when to fold and when to roll. Still doesn't mean you take all of someone's sh** just got know when. | |
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Anyone can say they are going to get Prince and so and so. If HE doesn't Like the girl or Find her Attractive do ya Think she would Have a CHANCE? Plus Mani and Prince are Not Dumb. She is Playing the GAME???Doing what He Wants? Remember he Said Ladies Don't Let ANY Man Tell Ya What To DO?? Remember this is SHOWBUSINESS! Remember he has an IMAGE! She is PERFECT. She let's HIm take the SPOTLIGHT she plays Down her Role. She does a Tina Graham copy. Who is PULLINg the STRINGS? Remember also that Prince is Everything WONDERFUL and SPECIAL his Fans ADORE him to DEATh if his Wife didn't also kinda Worship /Adore well this would not be Cool. He is the ALL! Mani is Very LUCKY ! Prince Loves her so Fans whatever,whatever. He's with her. I don't Think Prince would pick some DillWeed so I Trust she's Cool.He doesn't Want a WILD FREAK. He's Had All That and he wants CALM. Personally,I would Die if I Couldn't get Wild and Freaky Anymore. Ya gotta Have Fun. I would Totally Die if I had to Ever Be what I wasn't so if she is Frontin well I don't Know How she Doesn't Die. Plus anyone Pretending things for Money ever is just Not a True Person. Love is Love and ya Don't have to CHANGE who You Are for them to LOVE You.... | |
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Also maybe Prince isn't all into that EXCITEMENT all the Time..Maybe he digs on Boring a bit. | |
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Actually also all Prince needed was a WOMAN and she just had to LISTEN and Support him. Be his Wife. She just had to be Satisfied being his Wife. He didn't NEED a GLAMOUR GIRL,MODEL or ACTRESS he just Needed and Wanted SOMEONE who LOVEs Him and Who He Loved Back.A Wife. Pure and Simple..A Wife. And here is my Reply to You ALL! WHO On EARTh WOULDN"T WANt to Be PRINCE's WIFE? However it must be his TYPE. Or the Type which would be Pleasing to him and Not Negative.. | |
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Calm down Zelaira, dear. | |
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Zelaira said: Anyone can say they are going to get Prince and so and so. If HE doesn't Like the girl or Find her Attractive do ya Think she would Have a CHANCE? Plus Mani and Prince are Not Dumb. She is Playing the GAME???Doing what He Wants? Remember he Said Ladies Don't Let ANY Man Tell Ya What To DO?? Remember this is SHOWBUSINESS! Remember he has an IMAGE! She is PERFECT. She let's HIm take the SPOTLIGHT she plays Down her Role. She does a Tina Graham copy. Who is PULLINg the STRINGS? Remember also that Prince is Everything WONDERFUL and SPECIAL his Fans ADORE him to DEATh if his Wife didn't also kinda Worship /Adore well this would not be Cool. He is the ALL! Mani is Very LUCKY ! Prince Loves her so Fans whatever,whatever. He's with her. I don't Think Prince would pick some DillWeed so I Trust she's Cool.He doesn't Want a WILD FREAK. He's Had All That and he wants CALM. Personally,I would Die if I Couldn't get Wild and Freaky Anymore. Ya gotta Have Fun. I would Totally Die if I had to Ever Be what I wasn't so if she is Frontin well I don't Know How she Doesn't Die. Plus anyone Pretending things for Money ever is just Not a True Person. Love is Love and ya Don't have to CHANGE who You Are for them to LOVE You....
You know, you are definitely growing on me. I think you've got the idea down packed. | |
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preciosa863 said: Kissmequick said: I spend alot of my free time listening to Prince...does that mean I am obsessed.... Alot of you guys SEEM to spend all your time on Prince.org, does that mean that u are obsessed??? And as far as Mani's "college chum", r we supposed to believe everything that comes out of someone's mouth. It's funny how we take some things as truth without proof. And for Mani waiting patiently to introduce her friend, wouldn't u call that respect??? If she had bombarded Prince, some of yall would have said that she was rude. This woman can't win at any angle. Well, that's what was weird about it. the effect of her waiting was the same as if she'd stood there tapping her toe. she was so obviously being patient | |
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morningsong said: ChitChat said: Mayte was pregnant because prince got her that way.
Yeah, I suppose that's why he married her, cause it was his. Still it's an old trick. Was she his wife or an employee then? And who was he talking to, perhaps it was business. Besides how they behave in public is no true indication on how they interact in private, maybe she wanted those around to show her man the same kind of respect, you can never tell what the true intentions are. If I wanted my friends to treat my man in a certain way, then example is the best teacher. She knows what she's doing and she knows how to play the game.
That sums it up. Got know when to fold and when to roll. Still doesn't mean you take all of someone's sh** just got know when. hang on a sec... the guy could have been having a private, confidential conversation with the other guy. wouldn't be respectful to bust in on something like that, no matter who you are. | |
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Those of us who do not know her do not have the right to be judging her. Prince and Mani love each other and that is what matters. women who want to be equal to men lack ambition | |
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wavesofbliss said: it seems to escape a lot of people that both mayte and mani are little more and never less than what prince asks and or tells(told in mayte's case) them to be. prince is a complete obsessive and control-freak, albeit a milder version these days. there is a reason mani appears 'boring' and it the same reason that mayte always had her ass out- because that's what he wants. everything ever written about prince in his personal behavoir makes this clear, in addition to how many years of woman who are clones of one another physically and tempermentally, with little variation and a few blondes thrown in for good measure. and we know that the one's that have their own minds either leave on their own or their shown the door.
all of this to say that i find it interesting that we 'critique' these women at all. of course they're attractive, but neither of them could have much in the way of character or genuine personality or they wouldn't tolerate the whole svengali thing. also, it doesn't speak well of prince that he can't have any type of mature relationship- it's always 'be what i want or go away'. what tha hell is that for a 45yr old man? how mature has he really become to still behave that way? [This message was edited Wed Mar 17 13:44:50 2004 by wavesofbliss] [This message was edited Wed Mar 17 13:45:18 2004 by wavesofbliss] I totally agree. I have observed that for years. What they say about short men? I love you Prince. Touch It!!!!! | |
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wow you all are still hatin on this poor girl, sure she isn't one of the more glamorous half naked/singing-dancing/proteges that we are used to...but I think she's fine for him,physically she's the typical run of the mill chick he's used to fucking around with just throw a camisole on her....I think it's cool that she plays the back and is not trying to be in the spotlight.....I personally think alot of you chicka-dees on here are perhaps mad because he ain't screwing u!!!! I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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boriquateddy said: wow you all are still hatin on this poor girl, sure she isn't one of the more glamorous half naked/singing-dancing/proteges that we are used to...but I think she's fine for him,physically she's the typical run of the mill chick he's used to fucking around with just throw a camisole on her....I think it's cool that she plays the back and is not trying to be in the spotlight.....I personally think alot of you chicka-dees on here are perhaps mad because he ain't screwing u!!!!
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There are plenty of women his age now that are having babies, all you have to do is look at TV and see celebrities in their mid-30's to mid-40's pregnant. In fact a couple of years ago I heard a report on how it increases the womans chance to have at least twins, Also I read a story where this woman in her 60's had a healthy little girl and it was her firsrt child. I also read somewhere that the common age where women are having babies because of their carreers is at the age of 35. Where I'm from I hardly see anyone close to my age pregnant or with small children, when I asked the youngest mother that I talked to was 37 and my sister had her child at 34, but I do see mothers in there early 20's, but mostly older tham I am. | |
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Well maybe this is what Prince desires after having all the wild women. & | |
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