Batdance said:

My god! It's like Single White Female!!

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

Wow. Thank U 4 Your Compliment.....

minneapolisgenius said:

Marrk said:

co-sign

PanthaGirl said:

You're welcome!

Sueme said:[quote]Mani's best features are her smile and her hair. The rest of her is boring. Skinny, shapeless legs, flat chest...the girl has no body whatsover.

She never should have cut off the long, wavy hair. The shorter hair makes her look matronly, like she's Prince's Auntie Mani.[/quote





1.And Mayte's best features are her hair and her ass,so there!
2.P has been dating skinny,flat-chested women all along...where u been?
3.I'm skinny,too,so...I don't have a big booty and don't want one,either.

gypsyfire said:[quote]

Sueme said:

have you ever seen Mani's a**. we couldn't help but to see Mayte's a**, it was always in the camera~

Sueme said:

A few of the times I've seen Mani in person, her hair looked like extensions to me. Maybe she got sick of dealing with extensions and her hair now is all her own.

it seems to escape a lot of people that both mayte and mani are little more and never less than what prince asks and or tells(told in mayte's case) them to be. prince is a complete obsessive and control-freak, albeit a milder version these days. there is a reason mani appears 'boring' and it the same reason that mayte always had her ass out- because that's what he wants. everything ever written about prince in his personal behavoir makes this clear, in addition to how many years of woman who are clones of one another physically and tempermentally, with little variation and a few blondes thrown in for good measure. and we know that the one's that have their own minds either leave on their own or their shown the door.

all of this to say that i find it interesting that we 'critique' these women at all. of course they're attractive, but neither of them could have much in the way of character or genuine personality or they wouldn't tolerate the whole svengali thing. also, it doesn't speak well of prince that he can't have any type of mature relationship- it's always 'be what i want or go away'. what tha hell is that for a 45yr old man? how mature has he really become to still behave that way?
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wavesofbliss said:

Damnnn! That was deep! But you know your absolutely correct. He likes a girl he can totally control. What a shame.

Mani may seem boring to you because you know nothing about her, and thats the way Prince wants it! I'm pretty certain that he really doesn't care what anyone thinks. Good for him.

Lleena said:

EXACTLY!!!

wavesofbliss said:

i believe the persona Mayte portrayed was actually the real Mayte. She acted the same way, well worse with Tommy Lee. When it was time to calm down to be a mother and wife, it seemed as though she was not ready for that role at that time.

Damnnn! That was deep! But you know your absolutely correct. He likes a girl he can totally control. What a shame.[/quote]
He can control me! lol j/k

I don't Think she's Boring. I think the 2 of them are Really Cool and I'm now very fond of her being with him instead of Mayte. He is Better than Ever and Manuella is Cool! Listen,he's doing Many more Shows than ever and he's Looking Gorgeous and Young and just Everything is Right. Prince Hasn't been this Happy in Years!

mayte's persona being the real mayte

i have a hard time believing that. she is, by all accounts- even prince's, a sweet and down-to-earth woman. prince often talked about the calming effect mayte had on him with the dogs and re decorating the house etc. and the "performance self" tends to be an idealized version of the person or sometimes who and what they wish they were in real life. that's why you read so often about musicians and actors not being at all the way they appear to be.

i'm not sure what you mean about acting "the same way and worse" w/ tommy lee? as far as being a wife and mother- a lot of women aren't ready for that at 24-25 yrs old. i couldn't hold that against her, she and i are the same age and totally get that. prince and mani have been married for the better part of 3yrs and they haven't had babies yet and mani was 26ish when she and prince married- a few years older than mayte was she she married prince. i've been reading older posts trying to get a feel for the place and there does seem to be quite a bit of "mayte the bitch slut gold digger " sentiment going on. i find it mostly amusing bcos as i said they appear to be interchangeable.

wavesofbliss said:

"with the dogs"-What about cats?

Mayte is beautiful and said to have a sweet personality, but what is it about her that makes her men cheat or dump her? She tried so hard to get Tommy Lee to marry her. In fact, she made a damn fool of herself with Tommy Lee.

So why did Tommy Lee get tired of Mayte so quick and move on? Why were there so many rumors of Prince fucking around with other women when he had such a sweet and beautiful wife at home?

A pic of Prince & Mani

www.picturetrail.com/crystallball

Sueme said:

I understand the point you're trying to make, but one can also ask "What is it about *Mayte* that causes her to choose to be with men with reputations for being womanizers or cheaters? The fact is Prince had a notorious reputation for cheating on women he was involved with. Mayte was just another statistic in his romantic life, just like Susannah, Sheila, and the many others he allegedly cheated on. Just because Mayte was Prince's wife (vs. just a girlfriend), or was sweet, or was beautiful, aren't criteria that are necessarily going to stop a man who is prone to cheating, FROM cheating. Men like that cheat not due to the woman they're with, but due to a flaw or deficiency in THEMSELVES. You can't blame Mayte for Prince's shitty behavior and lack of integrity (if he did actually cheat).

As for Tommy Lee, he's another who has a MAJOR reputation for being a sleazy dog who can't sustain a stable relationship, so I don't think he's a very good example to use to prove a point. Every other week that slob is in the tabloids sleazing all over someone else. So my question would be, what is it about Mayte, psychologically speaking, that makes her think she has to settle for men who will, most likely, end up treating her like shit and cheating on her? Why does she willingly put herself into situations and abusive relationships with men that will most probably hurt her or not treat her respectfully?

I think it's unfair to assume that it was Mayte's behavior that 'caused' these men to either cheat on her or dump her. Besides, even if Mayte IS the most raving bitch on Earth, that shouldn't be a justification for anybody to cheat on her. If Prince, or anyone, is unhappy with her or the person they're in a relationship with, maybe they should be a man of character and END THE RELATIONSHIP and THEN go seek out someone else. Cheating is never justifiable behaviour, it's just sleazy and low.

Asking why Prince ended up cheating on her like he is rumored to have done, or why Tommy Lee dumped her - as though that was somehow her fault. I mean come on. TL doesn't stay with ANYBODY very long. He seems to be emotionally stunted in adolescence - seems to me to be comparable to asking why a woman who gets punched in the face by her boyfriend/husband GOT punched in the face by her boyfriend/husband, as though she
someone asked for it or deserved it...which is very ignorant rationale.

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It's quite Mean to say such things about Prince and Manuella don'tcha Think? Saying all this about Prince like he's some Nazi or Something such Bullcrap.All this Control stuff is so STUPID..Anyway he's Smart and Knows the Bestthing to do with stuff.

Zelaira said:

At least I (and others) know the correct spelling of MANUELA's name.

No one is perfect. Everyone has flaws. When people become famous, every aspect of them is on display and people gossip. That's part of show biz -- giving up a part of personal privacy.

Anyhoo, my theory is that one of Mayte's major flaws is that she is not very smart. She has never really been able to learn and grow as a person. She went right from her parents house and hooked up with Prince when she was a teenager. She stayed with him for years. He told her how to dress, how to wear her hair, and basically controlled her from her late teens to her mid-20s.

Mayte has a dependent personality, and she seeks relationships with independent men. From what I have observed, Mayte is a "clinging vine" needy person. She has the type of personality that is easily dominated by someone who has an independent personality. She went from having one older independent man, Prince, dominate her to another older independent man, Tommy Lee, who also dominated her.

Mayte enters into relationships with independent men who are happy with her dependence in the beginning. She's beautiful, sweet and eager to please. She tries to mold and conform herself to what the independent person wants. She does not have an identity of her own. She tries to become whatever the dominant person, i.e. Prince or Tommy, wants. Independent personalities will eventually grow bored with a dependent person. This is why I think Mayte ends up being treated like a doormat.

I think that Mayte would benefit from some counseling. I also think that with her personality, relationships with independent, domineering men should be avoided. I think Mayte would be better off with a man whose personality is more suited to hers. If two dependent personalities get together, they have each to depend on. It's not like in a relationship where you have a dependent person clinging to an independent person who wants to do his/her own thing. Two dependent people will cling to each other and depend on each other. But a dependent person in a relationship with an independent person is gonna get hurt....

I would just like to say that I really don't think that Mayte is the controlled little person here. If anything, she made a huge impact on Prince. I think he changed in a lot of ways when he met her and that she showed him a lot about love and life, maybe with her 'innocence'. The way she dressed etc was influenced by Prince, but the same can be said about anyone who was in the band at the time. From what I have seen of Mayte without Prince she seems like a very positive person with a lot of life experience for someone of her age

Did Mani stalk Prince then? Is she a crazed fan waiting for the right moment to do something unspeakable to our hero? Tune in next week to A Lot Of People Talking Shit About Something They Know Little About (But are entitled to their opinion anyway)

LaCoyta said:

He could do better? What makes you think that he did not do so good in the first place? I don't know Mani personally and neither do you, but she looks like a very nice person and Prince appears to be very happy. I think Prince made a wise choice in a wife who is not interested in the entertainment business. That makes their marriage more likely to last.

I wish them many years of happiness!

Batdance said:

How do you people know all of this? I don't believe any of it.

hi i am new to this--- but how did mani get a job w/ prince in the first place???

tmo1965 said:

alot of the stories (i'm not saying ALL, but alot of them) have been confirmed by people who have worked for him. and i'm not refering to people who worked in the mailroom; more like people who had to work with the man on a daily basis, as in in his face, all day, nearly every day, for months, and yes, years on end. my sources have all been face to face and telephone interactions with people directly involved with the aforementioned. at the time it was going on, no one would dare comment on it (remember that in a situation like this you'd most definitely have to have signed a confidentiality agreement to be employed by these folks ) , but now that alot of the characters in the scenario have come and gone, several people from that "inner" circle are alot more casual in discussing that situation- kind of the way that other people talk about the weather or the latest diet they're on.

but then at the end of the day, who really cares? regardless of what i've heard from insiders about some rather "unsavory" goings on behind the scenes once you're part of that whole tribe (and i've heard some things that would trip people the f*** out), i always come back to the music. i certainly don't look at p. the same way i did when i was a teeneager and had that
fantasy of him being the "absolute"...whatever that means, lol! and if it weren't for the the effect that his religion has had on his actions and comments as of late, i would probably maintain that the man is somewhat of a scoundrel- but somehow still i would be able to enjoy the contributions he's made to music. in fact, his contributions to the world of music are all that matter to me. it's almost like you can listen to these pople talk about what he's done to them and others, say, "hummm...that wasn't very nice of him. in fact, what a friggin' prick!" but then forget it and move on to just focusing on his music and his music only...did what i just say make any sense? i'm distracted today....

Has anyone here actually met Mani when she was a Prince fan ? How was she ? (just curiousity).